Curious: Why do we have gates?

[Parker]

Perhaps the answer should be obvious to me but it isn't. We all roll down our windows to flash our gate passes, raising the gate a thousand times a day. However, if you have no gate pass, anyone can just push the button and come right on in. Is the purpose to promote the illusion of security, or does it in fact provide security by appearing to be secure? Just curious...

[jerseyvillager]

To slow down traffic at golf cart crossings.

[ricthemic]

Perhaps the answer should be obvious to me but it isn't. We all roll down our windows to flash our gate passes, raising the gate a thousand times a day. However, if you have no gate pass, anyone can just push the button and come right on in. Is the purpose to promote the illusion of security, or does it in fact provide security by appearing to be secure? Just curious...

Have to have the gates... One huge reason (IMO). the gates cause all cars and trucks to STOP... which allow all golf carts to cross safely. Can you imagine the accidents with trucks flying through at the same time the golf cart crossing has an obstructed view... absolutely have to have the gates.

[Barefoot]

Have to have the gates... One huge reason (IMO). the gates cause all cars and trucks to STOP... which allow all golf carts to cross safely. Can you imagine the accidents with trucks flying through at the same time the golf cart crossing has an obstructed view... absolutely have to have the gates.

And the gates definitely give the illusion of security. A lot of visitors to TV don't realize that the roads are public property, and that you can gain entry by pushing a button.

[sgiamp1]

Perhaps the answer should be obvious to me but it isn't. We all roll down our windows to flash our gate passes, raising the gate a thousand times a day. However, if you have no gate pass, anyone can just push the button and come right on in. Is the purpose to promote the illusion of security, or does it in fact provide security by appearing to be secure? Just curious...

The gates do provide some security since each vehicle, coming and going, is videotaped. If something does happen within our community and we know a vehicle discription, using the tapes can be very helpful.

[Barefoot]

Have to have the gates... One huge reason (IMO). the gates cause all cars and trucks to STOP... which allow all golf carts to cross safely. Can you imagine the accidents with trucks flying through at the same time the golf cart crossing has an obstructed view... absolutely have to have the gates.

The gates do provide some security since each vehicle, coming and going, is videotaped. If something does happen within our community and we know a vehicle discription, using the tapes can be very helpful.

Are you sure that every gate is videotaped?

[jsw14]

Gate's are Videotaped???? Hmmmmmm, I've never herd of that before.......

[Challenger]

Gates are good

[Irishmen]

Sometimes it's faster to use visitors gate and get waved through.

[renielarson]

One of my club's had the director of Community Watch as a speaker. He said all gates use videotape. One of the ways videotaping has been used is to identify vehicles that crash through gate arms. The reason for gates is traffic control and to make it easier for drivers to transition to a lower speed limit since neighborhoods have a lower limit than the main roads.

[George Bieniaszek]

The gates definately make it a little safer for golfcarts to cross through but golfcarters still have to be cautious in that area.

There were numerous instances that I observed where a lead car used their card to raise the gate followed by an idiot right on their rear bumper rushing thru before the gate had a chance to close. Then the second car will complain if the gate hit their car. My understanding is that the gates are videotaped to take care of any disputes of damage done to cars if the gates hit them.

[JoeC1947]

Because without him we wouldn't have Microsoft!

[George Bieniaszek]

Because without him we wouldn't have Microsoft!

HA HA Joe!!! Took me a second but that was a good one:bigbow:

[jsw14]

Hay wait a min, Windows 7 was my Idea......HeeeeeHeeeee

[VillageSitter]

The gates are also monitored by Community Watch personel from a central location. When you push the buttom for entry at any location, the camera can be switched to that specific location to see who is entering. I was surprised to see all the monitoring screens and what really goes on behind the scene. And yes, our roads are public which mean anyone can have access.

[rubicon]

One of my club's had the director of Community Watch as a speaker. He said all gates use videotape. One of the ways videotaping has been used is to identify vehicles that crash through gate arms. The reason for gates is traffic control and to make it easier for drivers to transition to a lower speed limit since neighborhoods have a lower limit than the main roads.

Retirement (n) "when every day is Saturday " proper definition "when every day is Saturday except Sunday"

Gates benefits exceed their perceived nusiances

[skyguy79]

Because without him we wouldn't have Microsoft!I had the same idea, but you beat me to it! It must be because we're both named Joe! :p

[zonerboy]

Since there is still new home construction going on in Tamarind Grove and St. James villages, our entrance gates off of Buena Vista operated just like the exit gate (until recent days, anyhow). Just drive up, stop, and the gate opens. No button pushing or ID card required. Still, I've lost track of the number of times Community Watch has been out there repairing a broken gate, esp. on the visitor entrance side. At least once a week, I'd bet. Maybe the arm just doesn't go up fast enough for those construction guys. Or maybe they're in too big a hurry to do the one vehicle at a time thing. Or maybe they just bash on thru! Who knows. Must be expensive doing these constant repairs.

[lovesports]

I have a friend named Betty Poling who works for the Villages and part of her job is billing those who run through the gates for repairs.
She says that often both gates will be knocked down coming in or out of a village. She can't understand why if one gate is totally out of the way, why you need to knock down the other!
Don't ask how they know who knocked down a gate because I don't know.

[JCSTUNCARD]

Primary reason is that TV is sold as a 'gated community'. Take the trolley tour sometime.It's generally better to have the gates than not, but security is purely perception.

[Bogie Shooter]

I have a friend named Betty Poling who works for the Villages and part of her job is billing those who run through the gates for repairs.
She says that often both gates will be knocked down coming in or out of a village. She can't understand why if one gate is totally out of the way, why you need to knock down the other!
Don't ask how they know who knocked down a gate because I don't know.

You could read post #10 and find out...............

[lovesports]

You could read post #10 and find out...............

Not sure what you mean. Know most gates are not using videotape and know if there is anything to break the beam it will stay open. I will ask the woman who sends out the bills. (Betty) She will know rather than rumors.

[Barefoot]

Our local gate opens 7 seconds after you pull up ... no card or button pushing necessary. But most people use their card. I've seen people do a U-turn in front of the gate because they don't have a card and they perceive that it's a gated community. So all is well, the perception is there.

[lovesports]

As far as community watch...different ones will say different things. I know they want you to BELVIEVE they are all videotaped. Like I said, I'll ask Betty.

[CMANN]

The real reason for the gates is economic. They keep four repair crews working all year round. Eight adults 15 children and two grandparents have a roof over their head and food in their bellies because of the gates.

Next time you see a gate that has been knocked down, think of all the good that it is doing.

[Bogie Shooter]

As far as community watch...different ones will say different things. I know they want you to BELVIEVE they are all videotaped. Like I said, I'll ask Betty.

Darn, those liars at Community Watch!

[janmcn]

The Villages was a semi-gated community until they started building south of 466 in the early 2000's, and Sumter County refused to maintain the roads of a gated community. The compromise was the buttons at the gates that open them at all hours to anybody. Before that you either had to have a card or enter at a manned gate. The only manned gates after 11:00pm were Morse Blvd, Alhambra, Polo Ridge, and two in Marion County.


TV was never a truly gated community as many know them to be, but it was much more gated than it is now.

[JoeC1947]

The real reason for the gates is economic. They keep four repair crews working all year round. Eight adults 15 children and two grandparents have a roof over their head and food in their bellies because of the gates.

Next time you see a gate that has been knocked down, think of all the good that it is doing.

As usual your reasoning is impeccable.

[batman911]

I am starting to wonder about the legality of installing gates on a public road. That also may apply to video taping people without their consent. I am in favor of having gates but if this is legal, what would stop the developer from putt a gate on 441 or 75?

[Barefoot]

I am starting to wonder about the legality of installing gates on a public road. That also may apply to video taping people without their consent. I am in favor of having gates but if this is legal, what would stop the developer from putt a gate on 441 or 75?

I'm sure that the Developer worked out agreements with the Counties involved for the interior roads. No County Roads are gated. Think of the taxes paid by Village residents! I think the municipalities are quite happy to work co-operatively with the Developer.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am starting to wonder about the legality of installing gates on a public road. That also may apply to video taping people without their consent. I am in favor of having gates but if this is legal, what would stop the developer from putt a gate on 441 or 75?

What?

[asianthree]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window

[Pturner]

The real reason for the gates is economic. They keep four repair crews working all year round. Eight adults 15 children and two grandparents have a roof over their head and food in their bellies because of the gates.

Next time you see a gate that has been knocked down, think of all the good that it is doing.

Hmmm... so, Gates create Jobs. I wonder what officials at Microsoft and Apple would say about that theory. :024:

[angiefox10]

Hmmm... so, Gates create Jobs. I wonder what officials at Microsoft and Apple would say about that theory. :024:


:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[skyguy79]

What?Didn't you mean...
What?:1rotfl:

[jsw14]

Hay Batman, I was just wonderin if Waipahu, Hawaii has any Toll Roads?

[Pturner]

Didn't you mean...
What?:1rotfl:

Why? do you ask:1rotfl:

[graciegirl]

Hmmm... so, Gates create Jobs. I wonder what officials at Microsoft and Apple would say about that theory. :024:


You ain't...no never mind.

You are both witty and disarming.

And all that and a bag of chips.

[skyguy79]

I am starting to wonder about the legality of installing gates on a public road. That also may apply to video taping people without their consent. I am in favor of having gates but if this is legal, what would stop the developer from putt a gate on 441 or 75?

What?

Didn't you mean...
What?:1rotfl:

Why?do you ask:1rotfl:Because of Bogie Shooter's reply to the above words in red.

[chuckinca]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window


Spruce Creek, Stonecrest and many others have bar code stickers that open their gates.


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[jsw14]

.[/QUOTE]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window

[QUOTE=chuckinca;473920]Spruce Creek, Stonecrest and many others have bar code stickers that open their gates.
WoW, now thats a BIG savings, IF ya want too move:wave:

[JoeC1947]

Hmmm... so, Gates create Jobs. I wonder what officials at Microsoft and Apple would say about that theory. :024:

How original....a reference to Bill Gates. I wonder where I heard that before...

[JoeC1947]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window

Holy cow! 500 bucks for a window motor? Just leave it open or get a power window by armstrong!

[chuckinca]

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Spruce Creek, Stonecrest and many others have bar code stickers that open their gates.
WoW, now thats a BIG savings, IF ya want too move:wave:


Maybe TV might consider bringing their 25 year old gate opening system into the current century and residents wouldn't have to stick their arms out into the weather to get to their homes.


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[ssmith]

I don't know Batman....if Target can have facial recognition of you just by entering their store and monitor your buying then surely it is legal to have cameras at gates.

PTurner....Gates and Jobs....you crack me up!!!!

[cappyjon431]

The real reason for the gates is economic. They keep four repair crews working all year round. Eight adults 15 children and two grandparents have a roof over their head and food in their bellies because of the gates.

Next time you see a gate that has been knocked down, think of all the good that it is doing.

The real economic reason is that the developer is trying to corner the market on the window motor repair business. Sure he makes a little money selling houses and renting retail space, but the real dough is coming from all of those window repairs going on now and in the future. That is why we don't have gate access stickers. ;)

And no, I am not one of those crazy conspiracy theorists.

[Bogie Shooter]

Maybe TV might consider bringing their 25 year old gate opening system into the current century and residents wouldn't have to stick their arms out into the weather to get to their homes.


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Little rain doesn't bother me............

[MLBellis]

Just an FYI...You do not have to roll your window down to open the gate with your key card. If you get close enough to the railing to swipe your card. Most of the gates will accept your card through the window...this is great for when it is raining!:wave:

[jsw14]

Maybe TV might consider bringing their 25 year old gate opening system into the current century and residents wouldn't have to stick their arms out into the weather to get to their homes.


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I see it as good exercise:wave:

[Taltarzac725]

Hmmm... so, Gates create Jobs. I wonder what officials at Microsoft and Apple would say about that theory. :024:

Great one, PTurner.

Reminds me of a song/poem. No, I think that one would sound more like Job than Jobs.

The gates seem to be a great PR campaign for the Villages. Heard that you have to smile and wave to the vehicles coming in while also staying on a 4 hour work shift without any bathroom nearby. Not sure if that is true though.

[keithwand]

Great one, PTurner.

Reminds me of a song/poem. No, I think that one would sound more like Job than Jobs.

The gates seem to be a great PR campaign for the Villages. Heard that you have to smile and wave to the vehicles coming in while also staying on a 4 hour work shift without any bathroom nearby. Not sure if that is true though.

After 4 hours I'd include jumping up and down.

[graciegirl]

Oh stop. The gates are nice and slow us down and allow the carts to cross. The gates can be mentioned to an annoying brother in law when bragging about our hometown. There isn't any real value to big iron gates at this point in time. This place is safe. We have quite a few gun carriers living here so no need to worry.

Everyone get up from their computer's right now and look out your front door, then look out your sliders, peek out the side. Walk around the house. What do you see?

Safeness, Calm, Beauty, Tranquility.

Another gate thread. It is the damn Morses fault. Those nasty Republicans. (I am just KIDDING!) You know I love the Morses. May they grow old and prosper. More.:wave::024:

[chuckinca]

End of Thread

GG hath spoken!


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[graciegirl]

End of Thread

GG hath spoken!


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Was I awful, Chuck? I was poking a little fun that is all. :lipsrsealed::024:

Life is WAY too short to get bogged down on gates. Here anyway. It is so lovely.

[jsw14]

End of Thread

GG hath spoken!


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Oo dang-it, & I had another 3 cents worth to add:icon_bored:

[batman911]

Hay Batman, I was just wonderin if Waipahu, Hawaii has any Toll Roads?

No toll roads in the State of Hawaii but the condition of the roads make you wish there were.

[BOMBERO]

Spruce Creek, Stonecrest and many others have bar code stickers that open their gates.


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How many gates would that be? :shrug: And do the bar code readers pass out written driving directions to people who are lost? Do they open gates before emergency equipment gets there? Do they hold the gates open so traffic does not back up to the main street at busy times? Does the bar code reader give out info.? God forbid, if you had an accident at a gate will it call 911 and give your exact location? etc. etc. etc. :rant-rave:

And I have to ask.... if one wanted to move to Spruce Creek or Stonecrest...
are there any houses for sale?

Just asking.

[coffeebean]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window

I never thought of that. Has this been suggested on TV annual survey? That would be a great suggestion. I don't know how a sticker would work but a transponder, such as the Sun Pass, would be a great idea.

[jsw14]

How many gates would that be? :shrug: And do the bar code readers pass out written driving directions to people who are lost? Do they open gates before emergency equipment gets there? Do they hold the gates open so traffic does not back up to the main street at busy times? Does the bar code reader give out info.? God forbid, if you had an accident at a gate will it call 911 and give your exact location? etc. etc. etc. :rant-rave:

And I have to ask.... if one wanted to move to Spruce Creek or Stonecrest...
are there any houses for sale?

Just asking.

I'd like to know too, Please.....

BTW> Bombero<
Always be yourself, because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones that mind, don't matter."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^^^^
Thats the Best Siggy I've seen so far.......:beer3:

[coffeebean]

Spruce Creek, Stonecrest and many others have bar code stickers that open their gates.


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I really like that idea, even better than a transponder. Wonder why TV hasn't gone to the bar code sticker method.

[chuckinca]

Was I awful, Chuck? I was poking a little fun that is all. :lipsrsealed::024:

Life is WAY too short to get bogged down on gates. Here anyway. It is so lovely.


I knew you were just joking and my reply was meant to be a funny too.


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[senior citizen]

And the gates definitely give the illusion of security. A lot of visitors to TV don't realize that the roads are public property, and that you can gain entry by pushing a button.

Yes!!! It's an illusion of security.

We were very surprised to find out that we could get into our private neighborhood rental home by just pushing the button on the side in order to gain entry through the gates. Someone could also simply walk around those gates, as we noticed during the Lifestyle Visit prior to the one month rental.

The next day we went down to the gorgeous "hotel" that was really the sales office to get our passes.....but by then realized that if we could press the button, anyone else can....including all the landscapers and highway workers.

However, we did see the neighborhood security out and about constantly.
Actually, we felt very safe the entire time we were there.........however, the way the world is today, one can't be totally sure of anything. Up here we are used to having landscapers who come from our very neighborhood whom we watched grow up as an infant through college age............and had celebrations with their parents. True small town living.
Ditto for other service types like electricians, plumbers, carpenters...........but with all the help needed in TV, it would make us wonder.....considering we wouldn't really know them or where they are from.

However, even up here our sense of security has been squashed with last week's brutal murder of a wonderful Science Teacher at a private academy , who simply went to help out an old acquaintence (the fellow and his wife who plowed her driveway two years ago); they strangled her and buried her body in the Connecticut River while leaving her two year old in the mom's S.U.V....alone. So, even safe places are not always safe in today's world. So, even with no gated communities up here, where everyone knows everyone from cradle to grave, goes to the same schools and churches, danger is lurking.

[billethkid]

I disagree the danger is "lurking" in all the public places. I do agree there is "potential" but that is true for anywhere or anything. Hit by a car, hit by lightning, hit by a piece of the falling sky, etc???

The view presented is that because of an incident in an area, danger lurks, every where.

I prefer to look at life from the other side....that is 99% or more of the places and people are safe to be with in or around. So enjoy the majority of what life has to offer. And of course don't go traveling up any alleys or side streets in big cities (you are probably safe there to unless you pick the wrong one).

Isolated specifics do not an accurate generalization make!!!!! If one looks at an elephant through a straw and see only gray (national and media news method) it does not mean the world is gray.

btk

[senior citizen]

I disagree the danger is "lurking" in all the public places. I do agree there is "potential" but that is true for anywhere or anything. Hit by a car, hit by lightning, hit by a piece of the falling sky, etc???

The view presented is that because of an incident in an area, danger lurks, every where.

I prefer to look at life from the other side....that is 99% or more of the places and people are safe to be with in or around. So enjoy the majority of what life has to offer. And of course don't go traveling up any alleys or side streets in big cities (you are probably safe there to unless you pick the wrong one).

Isolated specifics do not an accurate generalization make!!!!! If one looks at an elephant through a straw and see only gray (national and media news method) it does not mean the world is gray.

btk

Well, we have lived in our own bubble up here for 42 years, so I certainly do not feel danger is lurking everywhere..........what I meant was "One never knows".....in this case, had she not trusted her snowplow driver, she'd still be alive. It's a sad story. I don't believe danger is lurking all over the place, however, that said..........and with drugs rampant all over the country now, things that we never dreamed of could indeed happen. Again, one never knows.

[zonerboy]

Life is dangerous!
No one gets out of it alive.

[billethkid]

I don't know if life is really any different or just simply we know more today than we ever did.
The electronic age of immediate update of events and the 24/7 media hammering away (almost ANYTHING = 'breaking news") means more info available.

Who knows what our opinions of 50 years ago would be like if we had available then all the information we have at our disposal today.

I went to a citizen's education about the community years ago in SC. The sheriff told a story about how some little town was of the opinion that crime was on the increase. Turns out the crime statistics were no different over a fair number of years. What DID change was the amount and depth of reporting.

I do believe, on the heels of a growing and larger population, the percentages are no worse....the reporting is over done.

Keep in mind no matter the reason the majority of people are good and well intended. Let's give them a break and talk about them instead of the isolated incidents getting all the attention ALL OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btk

[Jerseygirl08]

Perhaps the answer should be obvious to me but it isn't. We all roll down our windows to flash our gate passes, raising the gate a thousand times a day. However, if you have no gate pass, anyone can just push the button and come right on in. Is the purpose to promote the illusion of security, or does it in fact provide security by appearing to be secure? Just curious...

Good question. I just posted elsewhere that I had to turn in my two gate passes because one stopped working. On doing that, the customer service lady at the VCDD charged $15 because . . . the two numbers on the back did not match. "They told you at closing not to lose them or you'd have to pay to replace them". Is it just me, or do the rest of the Villagers know the two cards have identical ID numbers on the back that makes them exclusively YOURS. Aren't the numbers on the back being identical and losing one of the cards different. Not the same in my eyes. Hope others learn from this and put a personal touch to your cards so they don't get mixed up with anyone elses. I personally think the ridiculous gates are a gimmick, and now, a way to make money off of us. I usually go through as a visitor - no point waiting in line and wearing down your auto window motor!!

[llaran]

We have had 3 home robberies in our village and the sheriff could not get anything front the gate camera, and the people were not caught.

[llaran]

Our village had 3 home robberies, the sheriff got nothing from the camera.

[Indydealmaker]

Waiting for TV to come up with a sticker so you don't have to roll down you window a thousand times a year. Just got an the bill for my window motor that stopped working $497.03. Like the gates but not the wear and tear on my window

Save half by avoiding the dealers.

[Indydealmaker]

We have had 3 home robberies in our village and the sheriff could not get anything front the gate camera, and the people were not caught.

That is most likely because the burglars lived in the village. They did not need to exit through the gate.

[tucson]

Perhaps the answer should be obvious to me but it isn't. We all roll down our windows to flash our gate passes, raising the gate a thousand times a day. However, if you have no gate pass, anyone can just push the button and come right on in. Is the purpose to promote the illusion of security, or does it in fact provide security by appearing to be secure? Just curious...

I was told by an employee of TV that every time a resident swipes the card at the sensor it reads who you are and your address.

[Rebel Pirate]

The Villages was a semi-gated community until they started building south of 466 in the early 2000's, and Sumter County refused to maintain the roads of a gated community. The compromise was the buttons at the gates that open them at all hours to anybody. Before that you either had to have a card or enter at a manned gate. The only manned gates after 11:00pm were Morse Blvd, Alhambra, Polo Ridge, and two in Marion County.

TV was never a truly gated community as many know them to be, but it was much more gated than it is now.

This sounds reasonable and logical; also heard a similar explanation during a presentation by district staff. Also, traffic calming is an important side benefit. (Traffic calming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_calming))

Traffic calming consists of engineering and other measures put in place on roads for the intention of slowing down or reducing motor-vehicle traffic. This is done in order to improve the living conditions for residents living along the road as well as to improve safety for pedestrians and cyclists. Urban planners and traffic engineers have many strategies for traffic calming. There are 3 "E"s that traffic engineers refer to when discussing traffic calming: engineering, (community) education, and (police) enforcement. Because neighborhood traffic management studies have shown that often it is the residents themselves who are contributing to the perceived speeding problem within the neighborhood, it is stressed that the most effective traffic calming plans will entail all three components...

The gates are a very effective traffic calming measure. I believe that if they were removed 99% of residents wouldn't like the results. Also, there is another side benefit...it gives us all the opportunity to slow down and smell the palm trees. ;)

[jblum315]

if we didn't have gates there would have to be some clumsy system of red lights or
4-way stop signs to allow carts to cross and that would be a lot worse. Also, as someone mentioned, bad guys don't know that they can get through just by pushing a button, so they don't try.

[Bogie Shooter]

Good question. I just posted elsewhere that I had to turn in my two gate passes because one stopped working. On doing that, the customer service lady at the VCDD charged $15 because . . . the two numbers on the back did not match. "They told you at closing not to lose them or you'd have to pay to replace them". Is it just me, or do the rest of the Villagers know the two cards have identical ID numbers on the back that makes them exclusively YOURS. Aren't the numbers on the back being identical and losing one of the cards different. Not the same in my eyes. Hope others learn from this and put a personal touch to your cards so they don't get mixed up with anyone elses. I personally think the ridiculous gates are a gimmick, and now, a way to make money off of us. I usually go through as a visitor - no point waiting in line and wearing down your auto window motor!!

What is the reason that you posted nearly the same post to three very old threads regarding gates??

[sueb63]

What annoys me the most are those folks who feel they can just piggyback on through the gates. Sure it's annoying to open your window on a rainy or hot day but if we all had that mentality the gates wouldn't open and we'd have traffic jams worse than the LIE.
"Don't be an ass, just use your pass.";)

[sueb63]

That depends on the tint of your window.

[LI SNOWBIRD]

Because without him we wouldn't have Microsoft!

NOW THAT WAS FUNNY
:bigbow:

[Mr Hanky]

bad guys don't know that they can get through just by pushing a button, so they don't try.



Really?:popcorn:

[keithwand]

We could use a gate at Colony so the carts can cross safely. LOL.
Really could use a 4 way stop or tunnel or bridge.

[jblum315]

I agree. Colony is a nightmare for carts.

[rubicon]

When all is said and done the gates are very beneficial and not that much of an inconvience.

[SoccerCoach]

This thread offers reasons for the traffic gates, and I am sure they are all valid reasons, and I do support the safety concerns. However, the Hemingway gate seems to be malfunctioning or out of operation quite frequently. Therefore if this gate is also recorded, when not operating, what happens to the recording process? Why not place an operator at this gate?

[graciegirl]

This thread offers reasons for the traffic gates, and I am sure they are all valid reasons, and I do support the safety concerns. However, the Hemingway gate seems to be malfunctioning or out of operation quite frequently. Therefore if this gate is also recorded, when not operating, what happens to the recording process? Why not place an operator at this gate?

And operator costs more to operate a gate than an electronic arm.

Bottom line don'tcha know?

Fiscally conservative Gracie.

[MLBellis]

Did you know that if you drive close enough to the gate to wave your key card (without hitting it) You do not need to roll your window down to swipe your card.... Most of them will work through the window (this way you do not have to get wet when it rains) Just make sure that your card swipes over the light part that the light turns green!!! (some would say the eye button)

Just thought you would like to know this info!!!

[Cantwaittoarrive]

And the gates definitely give the illusion of security. A lot of visitors to TV don't realize that the roads are public property, and that you can gain entry by pushing a button.

:agree::agree:

[DougB]

Also, as someone mentioned, bad guys don't know that they can get through just by pushing a button, so they don't try.


I guess they know now.

[Steve & Deanna]

Gates tend to intimidate and may not keep out all the riff-raff but it sure slows them down.

[Jerseygirl08]

What is the reason that you posted nearly the same post to three very old threads regarding gates??

Honestly, BS, I am not very experienced at navigating on this forum. So I figured I'd post (more than once), hoping to get a response to at least one of
them. Didn't mean any harm. I have since learned that most feel the same
as I about the gates, constantly rolling down windows, etc. I see now the benefit of having the gates. I also knew you could swipe your card without rolling the window down if you got close enough. When I worked Home Health in TV, I did just that.

My initial question was: Am I the only person who did not know the two gate passes issued at closing are both numbered identically? And hopefully, if others did not know this (hence, I would not be alone in my lack of knowledge) they would be wise to mark their cards with a permanent marker
to prevent mixing them up with someone elses. That's all.

I love what I can learn from TOTV!!!

[Vinny]

Have to have the gates... One huge reason (IMO). the gates cause all cars and trucks to STOP... which allow all golf carts to cross safely. Can you imagine the accidents with trucks flying through at the same time the golf cart crossing has an obstructed view... absolutely have to have the gates.

Wouldn't speed bumps slow traffic as was done in other places where I lived at much less cost. If just slowing traffic is the goal then why are we paying for people to man some of the gates. From what I have been told, the people who man them are not required to even keep a log. Remotely monitored cameras would be a less costly option. I did security for facilities for a living and had the same issues of traffic and security but found less expensive methods to be better.

I too question the real motive behind the current system. Just wait until Morse stops subsidizing things to attract new buyers and the manned gates will go the way of the ethnic parades.

[Skybo]

I may be wrong (it’s likely), but aren’t most of the “manned” gates at locations where there is (1) a lot of traffic and (2) the lanes merge after you come through the gates?

And Vinny...speed bumps? Do you use a golf cart? If you do, I can’t believe that you think speed bumps for cars would be a realistic alternative to the gates in order to slow the vehicular traffic enough for golf carts to get across the street. That just boggles my mind.

[bmarlo767]

You are being video taped every time you walk down a public street. Most fast food stores
drug stores ECT. have security cameras that are covering the outside and inside.

[Emery Eaton]

Funny, because before my grand-inlaws started living in The Villages I thought you could not get through them. Even the first year they were their we would have one of them meet us at the gate. Then they learned and so did we just to push the botton. More of an illusion of security that probably works well. Does it work at night though? Daytime hours lots of gated communities leave the gates open. Maybe at night it is more secure?

[Skybo]

More of an illusion of security that probably works well. Does it work at night though? Daytime hours lots of gated communities leave the gates open. Maybe at night it is more secure?

It's not an illusion for most of us who live here. We know that the roads are public, and therefore, anyone can travel the roads. The gates are for traffic control, however, the gates also provide a certain amount of security via the cameras at each gate. Beyond that, it's up to each homeowner to secure his home.

[cherman338]

Not only do I like the gates but I wish they would actually close all the way between vehicles so that golf carts could get across.

[Challenger]

Part of the overall attraction for my wife and I when considering The Villages was the gates. They help to create the ambience which is the reason most have moved here. I would not like to see them removed.