Misplaced trust in Russia?....misplaced trust in this administration.

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There's a new political ad going around trying to bring people's attention to the amateurish foreign policy of the current administration, and nothing demonstrates that as well as their statements concerning Russia.

Former President George W. Bush was a bit naive in his dealings with Russia because he thought he found a like soul in Putin, for some reason. Many of his political enemies rightly chided him for this view.........so where are they now that Obama through his lackey, the buffoonish Joe Biden, has indicated that we have nothing to fear in the future from the great nation of Russia?

Is this ignorance or complacency?......blindness or complicity?

Somethings rotten here, is what I know.

Misplaced Trust - YouTube

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joe biden is an outstanding human being.

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joe biden is an outstanding human being.

........and a complete moronic idiot.

I finished your sentence for you............you're welcome.

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Complicity:mad:

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........and a complete moronic idiot.

I finished your sentence for you............you're welcome.
Yeah, we'd have been better off with Rick Perry or Herman Cain. You backed each of them until they imploded, didn't you Richie? Who's your fave now, Santorum? Geez, that guy would have the country back in the Dark Ages.

You know what? With all his faults, and in my opinion he doesn't have many in the foreign policy area, I'll take Barack Obama hands down against anyone who has toddled down the GOP yellow brick road.

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Richie: How did you respond to such comments made towards President Bush 'back in the day'?

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........and a complete moronic idiot.

I finished your sentence for you............you're welcome.

Losing it!!! :ohdear:

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Been watching Fair Game on DVD. Talk about incompetence and stupidity with respect to foreign policy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(2010_film)

Fortunately, it looks like some of the more troubling points in the movie are fiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair

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Yeah, we'd have been better off with Rick Perry or Herman Cain. You backed each of them until they imploded, didn't you Richie? Who's your fave now, Santorum? Geez, that guy would have the country back in the Dark Ages.

You know what? With all his faults, and in my opinion he doesn't have many in the foreign policy area, I'll take Barack Obama hands down against anyone who has toddled down the GOP yellow brick road.

VK.....I am not that smart, not as good with words as you, do not have your financial experience, etc, etc, but I predicted this moment was going to come months ago where you would say this..."I'll take Barack Obama hands down against anyone who has toddled down the GOP yellow brick road."

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Yeah, we'd have been better off with Rick Perry or Herman Cain. You backed each of them until they imploded, didn't you Richie? Who's your fave now, Santorum? Geez, that guy would have the country back in the Dark Ages.

You know what? With all his faults, and in my opinion he doesn't have many in the foreign policy area, I'll take Barack Obama hands down against anyone who has toddled down the GOP yellow brick road.

Great way you address the topic. Ignore Biden's amateurish take on Russia and attack me with ridicule. This is getting to be a standard thing for you now.

Rick Perry, Herman Cain or Rick Santorum still would not be President, so the damage being caused by Obama and Biden would not have been alleviated at this point by any of them. I thought you smart enough to at least know that. You have no way of knowing how they would deal with Russia, but I have to think it would have to be better that the current administration's, as their posture is quite imbecilic.

You are free to have your opinion about the Obama Administration which you ebulliently praise and defend at every turn, although you always say you are not going to vote for them so we don't call you on you "never vote for any incumbent mantra. That's fine with me. I just don't know why you feel compelled to address and challenge me personally when you do.

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Richie: How did you respond to such comments made towards President Bush 'back in the day'?

If you read my post you wouldn't ask me this question.

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Been watching Fair Game on DVD. Talk about incompetence and stupidity with respect to foreign policy. Fair Game (2010 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(2010_film))

Fortunately, it looks like some of the more troubling points in the movie are fiction.

Plame affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair)

I don't want to appear confrontational, but how is this fictionalized puff piece relevant?

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To those of you who come on here and defend this Presidents actions blindly and very predictably....under any and all circumstances....WHY ?

Has has lied to you, already validated and forgotten by you....he continues to want to spend spend spend which you say has to stop but you ignore it....he obviously does not care about making the hard decisions relative to our deficit, which you say is a problem, yet you ingore that...he continues, whether on purpose or not, preach class and race warfare and does it almost daily, something you decry, but you ignore that..this is factual without mentioning opinions which abound on his total lack of knowledge in foreign affairs which is framed by comments from world leaders, and you ignore it...you condemn career politicians....yet this WH is without any doubt the single most political WH in decades and the VP is about the most consumate total politician that has been in Washington, and you ignore it.

There is so much more but you folks are for so much this president is NOT and yet you ignore it.

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So, it seems that every liberal who's responded to this thread cannot dispute how amateurish our current administration is in reference to Russia and so has taken to confronting me personally with topic diversion, and in one case, with ridicule.

A little tutorial in the "liberal response".

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I don't want to appear confrontational, but how is this fictionalized puff piece relevant?

Foreign policy and the image of it in various presidential administrations. Bush's leaved a great deal to be desired even without the political fiasco which was the Plame affair.

This is an interesting article. It is just a teaser though as you need to find a copy of this Foreign Affairs issue to actually read the rest of it. http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/67919/daniel-w-drezner/does-obama-have-a-grand-strategy

The Foreign Affairs article is about President Obama's lack of a grand strategy in foreign affairs but...

"Grand strategies are not nearly as important as grand strategists like to think, because countries tend to be judged by their actions, not their words. What really matters for great powers is power -- national economic and military strength -- and that speaks loudly and clearly by itself." From the above link.

And about the GOP candidates' foreign policy-- http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/136664/james-m-lindsay/the-2012-election-and-the-republicans-foreign-policy

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Just going to repost what I posted just recently in another thread...gotta tell you, this blind, and it is totally and completely blind trust of Obama is something to behold.....


Not defending anyone...just recalling recent news...

Dec 2011



"As tensions between the United States and Russia increase over issues such as missile defence and WTO accession, Moscow is attempting to create a rift between Central Europeans and their North American allies, argues Lauren Goodrich.

Lauren Goodrich is a Russia expert and senior Eurasia analyst at STRATFOR.

"Tensions between the United States and Russia have risen in the past month over several long-standing problems, including ballistic missile defence (BMD) and supply lines into Afghanistan. Moscow and Washington also appear to be nearing another crisis involving Russian accession to the World Trade Organisation (WTO)."

Russia's plan to disrupt US-European relations | EurActiv


March 3 2012

"Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton doffed her diplomatic gloves after Russia vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution on Syria. Calling the February veto "despicable," she laid at Moscow's feet the "murders" of Syrian "women, children, [and] brave young men."
Not to be outdone, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin railed against the United States for indulging its "bellicose itch" to get involved in other countries' internal affairs. And he vowed that Russia will thwart American designs in the Middle East."

A cold-war chill? US-Russia relations falter over Libya and Syria. - CSMonitor.com

There are many more, and I certainly hope that Romney is wrong...but heard this tune from this administration before..one being the ME, and it is worse than ever,

More directly to Romneys point on geopolitics....

[B]"Despite the Soviet breakup twenty years ago, only Russia still possesses devices of mass destruction capable of destroying the United States and tempting international terrorists for years to come. Russia also remains the world’s largest territorial country, a crucial Eurasian frontline in the conflict between Western and Islamic civilizations, with a vastly disproportionate share of the planet’s essential resources including oil, natural gas, iron ore, nickel, gold, timber, fertile land and fresh water. In addition, Moscow’s military and diplomatic reach can still thwart, or abet, vital US interests around the globe, from Afghanistan, Iran, China and North Korea to Europe and Latin America. In short, without an expansive cooperative relationship with Russia, there can be no real US national security.


http://www.thenation.com/article/161...st-opportunity

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"Russia's burgeoning oil and natural gas exports are underwriting Russian efforts to regain status as a world superpower

Russia, once an old foe, is again proving to be a major obstacle for America's foreign interests, and will continue to be a thorn in the country's side as long as oil prices remain high."

Oil Prices Fueling Russia's Disruption of U.S. Foreign Policy - Chicago Tribune (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-04-04/news/sns-201204041200usnewsusnwr201204030403russiaapr04_1_o il-prices-cubic-meters-natural-gas)

""Putin still aspires for Russia to be a superpower," says Steven Pifer, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine. "There are only two ways for Russia to achieve that: nuclear weapons, and oil and natural gas sales."

This is news from TODAY, not the 50's folks !!!

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Both China and Russia and a few others have recognized that the US administration(s) of today are much more permissive/tolerant of actions by others that could have a long term negative effect on America.

I still remember the old political cartoon of Kruschev with a big smile on his face and outstretched hand to Uncle Sam while holding a lighted A-bomb behind his back. That cartoon updated to today's administration would show Putin (or any other potential enemy) doing the very same thing except instead of a smile on his face he would be laughing out loud.

Obama's attempts at foreign policy have been to try to be everybody's friend including apologizing for the actions of the USA to separate himself from his predecessors. What Obama discovered very quickly is other countries on the planet do not buy his fancy speeches and BS.

We are very quickly becoming the "paper tiger".

Joe Biden is a good politician that follows the drum beat of his party and gets in trouble when he speaks with an open mind instead of the latest talking points.

btk

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Foreign policy clash in US election - timesofmalta.com (http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20120401/opinion/Foreign-policy-clash-in-US-election.413613)