View Full Version : Another interesting column
Guest
04-10-2012, 07:14 PM
The President has been trying to pass himself off as a moderate recently and this column will point out how untrue that is...I like the fact that this column also calls out the press just a bit for accepting what this man says..
For example on Supreme Court Justices....
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U.S. Supreme Court rules on the constitutionality of the individual mandate in Obamacare, court observers expect all four justices appointed by Democrats to back Obama. If any justices depart from their ideology, it will be Justice Anthony Kennedy (appointed by Reagan) and perhaps Chief Justice John Roberts.
So how did Obama vote on Roberts after President George W. Bush nominated him to the big bench in 2005? The Senate approved Roberts in a 78-22 vote. Good liberals -- such as Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, who no longer serve in the Senate -- were among the 22 Democrats who supported Roberts. Other yes votes -- Nebraska's Ben Nelson and Connecticut's Joe Lieberman -- probably couldn't win and aren't running for re-election.
Obama voted no on Roberts. Current Vice President Joe Biden also voted no. In 2006, when the Senate approved Justice Samuel Alito 72-25, Obama and Biden voted against him, too. And the Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., voted against Roberts and Alito"
Oh do not listen to this man...look at his record...
I will paste the ending and then read it...goes into how ridiculous it was for him to say that he would be considered centrist 25 years ago. He has done more to move the Democratic party HARD HARD left than anyone I can recall...
"After moving his party to the far left, Obama expresses outrage that Reagan couldn't win a GOP primary -- even as Republicans seem poised to nominate Mitt Romney over objections from their party's conservative base. He must think that if he keeps calling Republicans radical, the press will repeat his mantra without checking his record."
RealClearPolitics - Where Are All the Moderate Democrats? (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/10/where_are_all_the_moderate_democrats_113790.html)
Guest
04-10-2012, 07:58 PM
I like the fact that according to an ABC poll released today, Obama leads Romney 51-44. Translate that to electoral votes and we are looking at a landslide win for Obama in November.
Obama also leads among women by 19 points. Romney leads among men by 7 points, but last month he led among men by 12 points.
:thumbup:
Guest
04-10-2012, 09:24 PM
Expect desparation from the Republicans and the most outlandish comments from the uber conservatives on this forum. They are beginning to feel that the next Presidential election is a sure thing for Democrats and will pull out all their plugs - never mind if the truth is left out.:boom:
Guest
04-10-2012, 10:04 PM
The liberal media concocted a poll that shows Obama ahead. I guess that seals it :)
Guest
04-11-2012, 05:41 AM
Well, it doesn't seal it but it COULD act as a wake-up call to the GOP.
I think the problem is that, if Romney adjusts his views or campaign rhetoric, it'll play more into the "flip flopper" tag that many have put on him.
Guest
04-11-2012, 07:09 AM
What frightens me are the Obama supporters who would say he is moderate and hasn't done enough toward the Progressive cause. To his supporters, friends, community organizers and mentors like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Doran, Frank Marshall Davis, Harold Washington, Lane Evans, Jeremiah Wright and Van Jones; Obama is a moderate.
I'm afraid he has been holding back, waiting on a final term to really change America into the Progressive vision he and his far-left friends see for our future.
Guest
04-11-2012, 07:47 AM
Those were some mighty powerful names thrown out as Obama supporters. However, remember that one of your own uber-conservatives on this forum has been quoting PRAVDA as one of his sources.
Guest
04-11-2012, 08:30 AM
They are very powerful names, Buggy. Indeed. All friends, mentors and supporters of the POTUS.
Guest
04-11-2012, 08:54 AM
I do think the word moderate has different meanings for some of us. I for one do not equate the word moderate with someone who is trying to destroy America,the exact opposite I believe moderates are trying to save America.Is Obama a moderate? Probably not enough for some and too much for others. Some in the republican party say Romney is too moderate. Is he? I dont think so. But who knows.
Guest
04-11-2012, 08:57 AM
They are very powerful names, Buggy. Indeed. All friends, mentors and supporters of the POTUS.
When though? I will bet many on TOTV had some interesting friends in their youth as did Barack Obama.
I had a friend at the U of NV Reno, Tom, who was a fellow Philosophy student who would sometimes try to get me in trouble and always seemed to have something going on that could keep him in hot water. He tried to pick up a woman at Mustang Ranch no less. She was not a prostitute though. He wound up being stabbed six times by a jealous boyfriend of the women he tried to pick up. The last time I saw him in person there was a married woman--not to him-- waiting for me to leave after I popped in on him to see how he was healing after the 6 stab wounds. Another time another jealous man fixed his truck so that the engine fell out of the truck and into the street after my friend drove it a few yards onto the highway.
I would still be interested in Tom's adventures even today despite whatever kind of problems he still could be ensnared in.
Guest
04-11-2012, 08:58 AM
You are actually proving the point of the column Bucco posted, waynet. The lines have been changed. Standards are being distorted as to what is considered moderate, liberal, conservative, democrat, middle of the road etc.
Guest
04-11-2012, 09:12 AM
Rather than whine about how bad Obama is, I think it would be far more productive to get the best message possible out about Romney. Apparently, God has decided to guide Santorum away from the race, so it is time to stop whining and get behind the GOP candidate.
Guest
04-11-2012, 09:31 AM
Rather than whine about how bad Obama is, I think it would be far more productive to get the best message possible out about Romney. Apparently, God has decided to guide Santorum away from the race, so it is time to stop whining and get behind the GOP candidate.
My opinion, and my opinon only, but I believe that Romney has been vetted so much more than Obama. He has been in the mix a number of times...has nothing shrouded in his past, nothing that cannot be found, nothing hidden. He has no shadowy figures in his past. He has been in public life for a long time unlike our current President who, IN MY OPINION, is learning on the job.
Of course, I want to know everything...I did not get that in 2008 and hope we get that in 2012
Guest
04-11-2012, 09:45 AM
And Romney has proved himself as a successful business man and do we ever need that right now. He has been charitable with his money that the rich should do in my opinion also.
Guest
04-11-2012, 11:59 AM
What frightens me are the Obama supporters who would say he is moderate and hasn't done enough toward the Progressive cause. To his supporters, friends, community organizers and mentors like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Doran, Frank Marshall Davis, Harold Washington, Lane Evans, Jeremiah Wright and Van Jones; Obama is a moderate.
I'm afraid he has been holding back, waiting on a final term to really change America into the Progressive vision he and his far-left friends see for our future.
What is very disconcerting about the man is that those he associated with during his "formative" years (AND yes, you can change) were so far left as to have the tag radical associated with many of them....and I honestly have not known many public figures that stray far from their "formative years".
That, along with all the mysteries he has in his life is pretty unsettling at best.
Guest
04-11-2012, 12:17 PM
What is also a bit unsettling is as the President makes the rounds touting the Buffet theme (which is a very shallow political trick as even the CBO says it will not even come close to what is claimed) is that he quotes or the WH in their statements quotes and actually states in documents accompanying the proposal in Section V a reference to "Nobel-Prize winning economic Peter Diamond and renowned tax economist Emmanuel Saez" and a report that they put together and they use that to provide some basis for the tax increase on a few that will not even make a dent in our deficit.
HOWEVER, they do not mention this part of the report..."In fact, what the study is best known for is its stunning conclusion — much talked about in liberal policymaking circles — that the “optimal tax rate” is “73 percent, substantially higher than the current 42.5 percent top U.S. marginal tax rate (combining all taxes).”
73%! The top U.S. tax rate hasn’t been that high since 1969. It was 70 percent when Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 and cut taxes across the board, helping launch a 25-year economic boom after the stagflation-ridden 1970s. (And other research by Saez suggest the top tax rate should be 83%, back where it was in the 1940s.)
Buffett Rule tax just the start for Obama « The Enterprise Blog (http://blog.american.com/2012/04/buffett-rule-tax-just-the-start-for-obama/)
or
An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie (http://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.25.4.165)
The tax increases are a coming
PS...not sure why the link to the actual report says what it does but it works.
Guest
04-11-2012, 12:19 PM
And Romney has proved himself as a successful business man and do we ever need that right now. He has been charitable with his money that the rich should do in my opinion also.
By all accounts Junior was a successful businessman as well - at least that what all the R's told us.
How'd that work out?
Romney has been very charitable - especially stashing $$ in Swiss ban accounts.
Guest
04-11-2012, 12:21 PM
By all accounts Junior was a successful businessman as well - at least that what all the R's told us.
How'd that work out?
Romney has been very charitable - especially stashing $$ in Swiss ban accounts.
Link please on the accusation about "STASHING" I assume that you speak of the trust fund in a swiss bank of Romney's wife ??? If so, it was closed a few years ago, publicly acknowledged, talked about, mostly on those wingish blog sites. Nothing to see here actually, but if we go here,,,,,,oh so much mystery on the other side.
Oh and you appear to have some objection to his charitable causes or money...perhaps a link to what bothers you about that also.
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