Is TV all you thought it would be?

[swimdawg]

I posed this question to a new friend of mine. She gave me a very honest and insightful answer. She suggested that I ask this question on TOTV.

So...here goes: Is The Villages all you thought it would be? Please tell us how long you've been in TV....if you're a Frog or Snowbird/Snowflake. Maybe share with us if your feelings/thoughts about TV has changed with time?

[cappyjon431]

We've only been here six months, but so far the transition has been better than expected. Overall we are very happy here. I was a little disappointed with the overall increase in crowds and with the apparent (my perception) increase in rudeness asociated with the seasonal population explosion, but at least it prepared me for next season.

[jimbo2012]

increase in rudeness asociated with the seasonal population explosion,

In another thread - Armyguy said about the same thing.

Why don't you explain that?

Since we intend to be there as birds I want to make sure nobody thinks where rude automatically because of how many months we may live there.

[cappyjon431]

In another thread - Armyguy said about the same thing.

Why don't you explain that?

Since we intend to be there as birds I want to make sure nobody thinks where rude automatically because of how many months we may live there.

I'll be happy to:

In general terms, usually when you have a higher population with a limited amount of space/resources there is an increased competition for space/resources. This is seen in the animal kingdom and well as in human populations. Most would agree that as a general rule the people in rural areas are less rude than those in major metropolitan areas (and I understand this is a generalization, but INMHO it has been my experience, of course there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule).

Now let's look specifically at TV. During peak season the population of TV swells considerably, but space/resources stay the same. There are more people in the stores, more people in the restaurants, more people on the roads, more people playing golf, more people at the rec centers, and more people at the pools (the list goes on an on). But there are not more stores, restaurants, roads, golf courses, rec centers , pools, etc.

I have found that people just seem to have a "shorter fuse" and exhibit more rude behavior. I see it standing in line at the grocery store, waiting for tables at restaurants, on the roads (this is the one I see most often), at the gym, etc. Speaking with store clerks, servers, business people and other residents (both frogs and snowbirds), they seem to confirm my perception.

How many months someone lives here has no bearing on how rude they are--all I am saying is when the population swells, tempers start to get shorter and rudeness increases.There are rude frogs and rude snowbirds, but there are many more friendly frogs and snowbirds. Bad behavior just seems to spike when the population increases.

That being said, and back to the OP's question, TV is all I thought it would be, and then some. TV is like paradise, but I call it paradise with warts. I love it, warts and all.

[ajbrown]

I'll be happy to:

In general terms, usually when you have a higher population with a limited amount of space/resources there is an increased competition for space/resources. This is seen in the animal kingdom and well as in human populations. Most would agree that as a general rule the people in rural areas are less rude than those in major metropolitan areas (and I understand this is a generalization, but INMHO it has been my experience, of course there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule).

Now let's look specifically at TV. During peak season the population of TV swells considerably, but space/resources stay the same. There are more people in the stores, more people in the restaurants, more people on the roads, more people playing golf, more people at the rec centers, and more people at the pools (the list goes on an on). But there are not more stores, restaurants, roads, golf courses, rec centers , pools, etc.

I have found that people just seem to have a "shorter fuse" and exhibit more rude behavior. I see it standing in line at the grocery store, waiting for tables at restaurants, on the roads (this is the one I see most often), at the gym, etc. Speaking with store clerks, servers, business people and other residents (both frogs and snowbirds), they seem to confirm my perception.

How many months someone lives here has no bearing on how rude they are--all I am saying is when the population swells, tempers start to get shorter and rudeness increases.There are rude frogs and rude snowbirds, but there are many more friendly frogs and snowbirds. Bad behavior just seems to spike when the population increases.

That being said, and back to the OP's question, TV is all I thought it would be, and then some. TV is like paradise, but I call it paradise with warts. I love it, warts and all.

Hi, my name is Alan.. and I AM a seasonal resident.....

I agree with this post completely. I can say that I noticed a large uptick in population this year as compared to years past. In fact I am shocked to see the number of cars/carts still here in April.

We have spend 8+ months a year here since 2007 and this winter was the busiest I have ever seen it. With that increase in population also came quite an increase in 'road rudeness'. IMO, the reason is articulated very will in the post above.

[graciegirl]

I think Cappy makes several valid points. I think too that we are starting instant friendships with strangers thinking that age will negate a lot of other differences. That isn't true.

I think that our geographic origins and the way we were taught to expect or do certain things in certain situations plays a big role.

We easily begin new friendships here or expect friendly behavior from those we've just met and are "put off" by their "strange" responses. One new neighbor on the golf course said I was "fresh". (I had a dickens of a time finding out what "fresh" meant. It isn't a term used in Ohio. Someone bristled over my "Boy Howdy" which simply means "well, I'll be darned" to me and I thought everybody spoke Ohioese.

Midwesterners expect certain things that cause those from the coasts to think we are a little strange. People from certain area's use silence as soft disapproval where other areas HAVE TO HAVE the last word.

On top of this are the internet bullies, the newly affluent, the sick, the tired, the fiesty, the arrogant and the truly kind....all who have been that way for awhile or are trying out new personas.

There are a lot of "fresh starts" here and some invent their pasts to present to others.

In other words, we are older Americans most of us and we are thrown together in a new experience that really is making history on this planet.

I like that about this place and I hate that about this place. Sometimes I long for the way people acted pretty much the same back home.

But considering all that do I love it? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

[jebartle]

MUCH MOREWe are frogs, have been here 6 years....Life is Good!

[villages07]

Been here full time for 5 1/2 years and still wake up in awe at what a beautiful place and wonderful lifestyle we have here. It is more than I expected and improvements continue.

No, it's not perfect, but pretty darn close.

At this stage of life, enjoy every happy, healthy day you have and don't sweat the small stuff.

[Golfingnut]

We truly love it here. I will say that I have noticed some over zealous opinions by folks on Race, Religion and Politics in The Villages, but I equate that to the fact that in most places we lived prior to retirement, we barely knew our neighbors and never heard the three topics brought up in conversation. Here we talk in length to anyone standing in line at the grocery or restaurant etc etc.. Would never have done that back home. That said, We both like it even more than we anticipated prior to moving in.

[CarolSells]

I think Cappy makes several valid points. I think too that we are starting instant friendships with strangers thinking that age will negate a lot of other differences. That isn't true.

I think that our geographic origins and the way we were taught to expect or do certain things in certain situations plays a big role.

We easily begin new friendships here or expect friendly behavior from those we just met and are "put off" by their "strange" responses. One new neighbor on the golf course said I was "fresh". (I had a dickens of a time finding out what "fresh" meant. It isn't a term used in Ohio. Someone bristled over my "Boy Howdy" which simply means "well, I'll be darned" to me and I thought everybody spoke Ohioese.

Midwesterners expect certain things that cause those from the coasts to think we are a little strange. People from certain area's use silence as soft disapproval where other areas HAVE TO HAVE the last word.

On top of this are the internet bullies, the newly affluent, the sick, the tired, the fiesty, the arrogant and the truly kind....all who have been that way for awhile or are trying out new personas.

There are a lot of "fresh starts" here and some invent their pasts to present to others.

In other words, we are Americans all of us, older Americans most of us and we are thrown together in a new experience that really is making history on this planet.

I like that about this place and I hate that about this place. Sometimes I long for the way people acted pretty much the same back home.

Wow. I think that is probably the most sincere and thought-provoking post I've read on this forum.

I can relate to the "back home" part - 'course I'm an (how does Bill say it?) Uh-hiya girl myself. I've been away for forty years now but I think that you always miss your roots.

Well, back to home improvements so I can join all of you.

P.S. Swimdawg where are you?

[swimdawg]

P.S. Swimdawg where are you?

Where am I? I am here in Wheatfield, NY right now. And a week from Thursday, I'll be at my lovely home in the Village of St. James. I am a Snowflake....here a little, there a little. Kinda enjoying the best of both worlds at the moment. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?

[John_W]

This is how things get started. Last night at LSL my wife, brother, who was visiting, and I were in the white plastic chairs watching the band. Two chairs in the row in front of us became vacant, before I knew it some guy comes in between my chair and the next chair cutting through our aisle rather than going down to the end. I guess he was afraid someone would get to those chairs before he would. He hits me in the shoulder as he steps through and then steps on my foot. His wife followed but somehow missed me. He never said a word or even looked at me. After he sat down he never turned around, if he had I don't know what I might have done, I know he ruined my time there because I all I thought about is whether I should get in this guys face.

To top it off, I hurt the foot he stepped on playing softball last Saturday and I was trying to rest it all week so I could play today. Since I play shortstop you need to have your feet in good shape. I believe if I had one more beer this situation would of turned out differently.

[swimdawg]

I believe if I had one more beer this situation would of turned out differently.

I remember going to Buffalo Bills/Sabres games in the past....and some of the conduct was not....the best. BUT....most people...yes, MOST people, are nice and well-behaved.

So John....tell me, is TV all you thought it would be?

[momesu]

Very well said Gracie.....

My short answer to this question of is TV all I thought it would be? is yes.
My long answer is definitely YES!

I can't speak to how things have changed since I've only been in TV for 6 months as of next Tuesday and I had never even been to TV until 1 year ago this past January.

As to the crowds over the past few months, I guess I don't get out much since I didn't think they were bad at all, other than when Rocky and the Rollers play at the square..:shocked::shocked:. But then I am from the Washington DC area where waits to get into restaurants never are under an hour and traffic is always congested with very rude drivers behind the wheel. I could go on but won't bore you. Also I have never experienced a "summer season" in TV so maybe next winter I will see the crowds as a bit more annoying. I hope not though. I hope I just continue enjoying my life in Paradise and all it offers. It's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close!

Suzanne

[John_W]

n/a

[John_W]

I remember going to Buffalo Bills/Sabres games in the past....and some of the conduct was not....the best. BUT....most people...yes, MOST people, are nice and well-behaved.

So John....tell me, is TV all you thought it would be?

Same thing would happen at a Ravens game if you were to wear a Steelers jersey. However, at Lake Sumter Landing listening to the Dynamic Duo (who weren't very dynamic) I would expect better manners.

Golf is costing me a little more here. I use to play at about ten courses in Maryland and pay between $32 and $37, sometimes it even included lunch. Here from Oct to April to get those rates you need to pay about $700 to become a priority member or the green fees would be about $48. I have some softball mates who go off campus to play and I think next winter that is what I'll be doing. Come May 1st I can play any course but Palmer for $19 after 11am without being a member.

Actually a few other things here were more expensive. I'm paying Centurying Link about double what I paid Verizon for a phone and internet. I could go on, but for example our last electric bill here was $92, in Maryland it would of been $350, so I guess it kind of evens out.

I love it here, but I do miss the convenience I had living near Baltimore. Within a 10 minute drive I could be at about 30 different eating establishents. Here, it takes 20 minutes to just get to 466 from Tamarind Grove. Eventually when 466A get more developed it will probably be better since that is only 5 minutes away.

I did play golf all winter, where in Maryland I would of not have played from mid Dec to early March. Also I play softball every week with people my age, where in Maryland I hadn't played softball since 1981.

To watch every Ravens game I have to pay Directv $300 for NFL Sunday ticket. You get things and you lose things, it's all a trade off. I guess it a bad way to judge a place by what things cost. However, when you're on a fixed income that becomes very important.

[George Bieniaszek]

I am truly happy being here in The Villages. We are part-timers here spending 6-7 months here, all winter, then again 2 times for a month in June/July and October/November. This is a vacation for us. We have a CYV so there is minimal maintenance here so that we can enjoy other activities.

Love the golf cart rides and explorations. This year my wife and I took golf lessons and we are enjoying the game. So far so good!! No smashed windows or torn lanai screens :MOJE_whot:

We are physically active more here than back in Connecticut! We walk more for exercise and to get healthier, interact with our neighbors more, meet new friends, joined a couple of clubs and basically smile almost 100% of the time we are awake!! People in general are frendlier than any other place we have visited.

Yes, we have to put up with some of the typical irritations that previous posters stated, with lines at restaurants, increased traffic, etc. etc. etc. This is no different than in any resort community that has seasonal people come in for a period of time, Cape Cod, Block Island during the summer months to name 2 that I am familiar with.

This year, more than last year, my wife and I have noticed an increase in aggressive and rude behavior, in driving cars and golf carts, (what's the rush?? This is a retirement community!!!), people barking like dogs at others they deemed were doing something wrong. This group of people in my opinion, is a very small percent of the population. I am not suggesting that it is caused by snobirds or frogs because there are no visible or distinguishing marks or tatoos to tell them apart.

We are in the process of getting our CT home ready for sale and hope to be fulltimers here as soon as possible. Till then, we are enjoying the best of both worlds, enjoying the absolutely beautiful weather that Florida and The Villages have and also enjoying the New England summers as well.

[angiefox10]

We moved in the end of February... Spent the first few weeks getting unpacked and making the house a home, all the while wondering how we were going to meet people and get involved in the community. After leaving all our friends behind we honestly had our doubts.

Well..... That seems like a long time ago. We are so busy with friends and activities we don't have time for them all. We live with our calendar so we don't double schedule!

The Villages has been everything and MORE then what we expected! Swimdawg, it just gets better EVERY DAY!

We've also met some really GREAT flakes and can't wait for them to get back into town so we can see them again!!!!

Lovinthelife! :clap2:

[Oren L Miller]

I'm still waiting for the swimdawg recipe thread if you know what I mean. :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[swimdawg]

I'm still waiting for the swimdawg recipe thread if you know what I mean. :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Don't hold your breath.....trust me! I am not familiar with that word, "recipe". Is it related to that word, "cookbook....or stove....or something like that? I do know that the one use for my oven is to store popcorn for the next time Bill'nBrillo stop over.

Now back to my question.........

[raynan]

We love it and it is definitely more than we expected. More friends than we ever thought possible and so many laughs and good times. I've never used a callendar so much in my life to keep activities and appointments straight.

We tend to skip lunch and eat dinner much earlier or after 7 when the birds are here. I truly think this winter was much worse than last year (our first) because of all the new building south of Pennecamp and no new amenities except Bonifay. No new executive courses built created a nightmare trying to get tee-times. Restaurants more crowded but should subside as 466A and 44 develop. Crowds create tension and bad manners and it was more evident this year especially on the roads. It's probably because the birds and renters are trying to cram in as much fun as they can in a shorter time which is understandable but not necessary. Crowds here and waits for amenities are still less than what we had to deal with back in Massachusetts and we're retired, so what's the rush.

[pooh]

I've been thinking about this question most of the morning. TV is all that I expected and I do love it here. There are many things that contribute to that love....first and foremost, all the wonderful friends I have made over the 6 years I've lived here. Over that time some have taken different social paths, but we still are there for each other. The beauty of the community is amazing. It always looks shiny and bright, even in the midst of our current drought. TV is massive...not what many expected or what some might be uncomfortable with, but coming from southern CA, believe me, this isn't bad at all. It's all a matter of perspective. Even with the large size of the community, as we headed down towards Brownwood today...WOW, so much being built, there is a homey feeling about the place. TV isn't where we came from, where we left, it's a place entirely different and unique with many positives...and of course a few negatives, but what place is absolutely perfect. Some complain that people are unfriendly...maybe they have come from an area where friendly interaction with strangers wasn't the norm. Smile...it does wonders ... it makes others feel more comfortable and could just be what they need to brighten their day. It will make you feel better no matter what the response received. We don't always know what burdens others are dealing with.
It is more crowded than when we moved here, but it's like that in many, many parts of the country and frankly, it's not crowded all year long and during the peak season, just make a few adjustments to your schedule and all will work out.
There's much more to do here than where I came from. Lots more golf courses, even with higher cost for championship courses during the season. I know for some, costs were less, but not where we lived. There's activities, movie theaters are closer, grocery stores are convenient, more and more shops are being attracted to the area because of TV and that helps us and those who now have jobs.

It's a thriving, bustling and beautiful community, it's TV, not any place else....it's my new home and home for many. Remember we all made the decision to move here from where we lived previously....no one forced us to make that move, we did so willingly. If it's not what one likes, one can move,....I know that's not always easy, but one needs to live where they're happy so if TV isn't what you expected or like, it's decision time.

[Bogie Shooter]

This is how things get started. Last night at LSL my wife, brother, who was visiting, and I were in the white plastic chairs watching the band. Two chairs in the row in front of us became vacant, before I knew it some guy comes in between my chair and the next chair cutting through our aisle rather than going down to the end. I guess he was afraid someone would get to those chairs before he would. He hits me in the shoulder as he steps through and then steps on my foot. His wife followed but somehow missed me. He never said a word or even looked at me. After he sat down he never turned around, if he had I don't know what I might have done, I know he ruined my time there because I all I thought about is whether I should get in this guys face.

To top it off, I hurt the foot he stepped on playing softball last Saturday and I was trying to rest it all week so I could play today. Since I play shortstop you need to have your feet in good shape. I believe if I had one more beer this situation would of turned out differently.

No, more beers or not you did the right thing. Nothing would change if you "got in his face". His future behavior will not be any different and you would have become even more upset.
Besides in this great state of Florida, going after somebody can be dangerous. They can shoot you and walk away because of the "stand your ground" law passed by the folks up in Tallahasse.

[jimbo2012]

I know he ruined my time there because I all I thought about is whether I should get in this guys face..

I think anytime you re-live a situation as to what you should have done you can bet you were wrong holding back.

Not saying get in his face that i bit much, but you could have said something like hey do you know you stepped on my foot what's up with that?

[duffysmom]

We've been in TV for almost 4 years and like Villages07 we are amazed and grateful for the opportunity to live in paradise. In the past we've been privileged to live directly on the ocean and when up north we overlooked the Hudson River so we were hesitant to make the change. We thank God on a daily basis that we followed our hearts and moved here.

The reasons for loving TV have been mentioned by others over and over but I feel that the essence of our happiness here is intangible. People mention how crowded and rude people are but having lived in Florida for many years I can tell you that the Winters all over Florida are crowded with people from northern climates and you get all kinds of attitudes. When we lived in a beach community we would have to plan our afternoons out because of the traffic and frequently we refused to have dinner out because of the crowds. Everyone wants a piece of our perfect climate in the Winter.

For me the most important thing you can bring to TV is gratitude for having the opportunity to live another day in near perfect weather with some of the finest people we've ever met. Take what you want and leave the rest.

[rubicon]

Is TV all you thought it would be? I suspect that every person who visited, rented or bought whether as seasonal residents or fulltime has had the same opinion of TV (i want some of that and this and that). And therein is the answer. After six years of full time living here my perception is that there has been a consistent correlation between increasing population and quality.

Another aspect that factors into this is the design of traffic flow which two years ago was well antiquated failing to respond to the increasing population. Perhaps the build out will solve this problem? Perhaps not? However TV is a big attraction and outliers are utilizing TV without any skin in the game and TV can't do a darn thing about it because this is not a gated community.

This overcrowding predictably raises tensions on the roads, cartpaths, in restaurants and on the squares. So does the continual turnover of people owing to renters, vistors and locals.

[graciegirl]

I think anytime you re-live a situation as to what you should have done you can bet you were wrong holding back.

Not saying get in his face that i bit much, but you could have said something like hey do you know you stepped on my foot what's up with that?


In Ohio THAT is called getting in one's face. ;)

Least said, soonest mended. If he doesn't have manners by now, He ain't gonna learn 'em from you.

Having the last word can lead to escalation...just like Bogie says.



OOOOPS I JUST had the last word, Gracie. Gracie. Shame on you.

[Mudder]

We should have moved here years ago. We love everyday here even in the winter. I like the energy the newcomers and winter people bring, but yes, we do have to adjust our schedules just a bit and take a more tolerable approach to things. We have to go back up to Massachusetts for a graduation next month....we love seeing everyone but are always anxious to get back here to our bubble. We're full time residents who have lived in Florida for almost 20 years, no other place compares to TV !
Oh, also wanted to mention that I do see new things, changes, etc...that little park near the Haciendas at Mission Hills is a wonderful addition and closing SS square for repairs, etc... is actually a good thing.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Is TV all we thought it would be? Yup, without question, especially given our snowflake status. Sandy and I only make it down there for a few weeks at a time off and on during the year and yet we've managed to meet and connect with many great people............and hope to continue to do so. We always cram a lot into our schedule when we're there - seems like we always run out of time for all the things we want to do!

I'm sure it's definitely different being a frog - a broader set of experiences being in TV full-time. But we're happy with our lifestyle at this point and for us, TV is a perfect fit.

Bill :)

[jimbo2012]

In Ohio THAT is called getting in one's face. ;)

Least said, soonest mended. If he doesn't have manners by now, He ain't gonna learn 'em from you.

Gracie Gracie It's a mans thing

In NY that's called don't step on my foot :highfive:

[Pturner]

I think Cappy makes several valid points. I think too that we are starting instant friendships with strangers thinking that age will negate a lot of other differences. That isn't true.

I think that our geographic origins and the way we were taught to expect or do certain things in certain situations plays a big role.

We easily begin new friendships here or expect friendly behavior from those we've just met and are "put off" by their "strange" responses. One new neighbor on the golf course said I was "fresh". (I had a dickens of a time finding out what "fresh" meant. It isn't a term used in Ohio. Someone bristled over my "Boy Howdy" which simply means "well, I'll be darned" to me and I thought everybody spoke Ohioese.

Midwesterners expect certain things that cause those from the coasts to think we are a little strange. People from certain area's use silence as soft disapproval where other areas HAVE TO HAVE the last word.

On top of this are the internet bullies, the newly affluent, the sick, the tired, the fiesty, the arrogant and the truly kind....all who have been that way for awhile or are trying out new personas.

There are a lot of "fresh starts" here and some invent their pasts to present to others.

In other words, we are older Americans most of us and we are thrown together in a new experience that really is making history on this planet.

I like that about this place and I hate that about this place. Sometimes I long for the way people acted pretty much the same back home.

But considering all that do I love it? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

Wow, that's such an interesting perspective. I like it a lot and kinda wish I could relate to it more. Atlanta has long been a melting pot. In my suburban neighborhood, I can count on one hand the number of adults even from the south. (The number from Atlanta is zero). In this sense, TV feels much like home to me. That aspect of TV though is better than in Atlanta, because nearly all of families in TV chose to live there. In Atlanta, many were transferred here or came due to a job offer.

Is TV all I expected? Youbetcha. In the 2 1/2 years we have been snowflakes in TV, I continue to be amazed and delighted for the wonderful friendships, the beauty, the fullness of our social and activity calendar when we are there, how much we use and enjoy the amenities, the golf cart rides and the delight in seeing all the carts tooling around the community.

Although we weren't there for snowbird season, it makes all the sense in the world that this year's was the most crowded. With LSL area virtually built out for the first year, Brownwood-area amenities and Town Square not yet in place and several Brownwood Villages developed and spilling into LSL without yet a corresponding migration down to Brownwood area amenities, of course it was more crowded than ever.

When 446a, 44 and Brownwood amenities catch up, things may even back out to some extent. But TV is always going to experience Florida's annual snowbird season-- for which I'm grateful.

[Jhooman]

We closed on our new home Jan. 3, 2012. We love it here! We have met some wonderful human beings, many from this forum.

The traffic issues seem tame to me, I'm from southern California where congestion is the norm. People have been so polite and gracious here in The Villages.

The cost of living, including golf is so cheap, remember we are from southern California.

The Villages rock. We love this place.:MOJE_whot:

[CarGuys]

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I think that our geographic origins and the way we were taught to expect or do certain things in certain situations plays a big role.

We easily begin new friendships here or expect friendly behavior from those we've just met and are "put off" by their "strange" responses.

On top of this are the internet bullies, the newly affluent, the sick, the tired, the fiesty, the arrogant and the truly kind....all who have been that way for awhile or are trying out new personas.

There are a lot of "fresh starts" here and some invent their pasts to present to others.

In other words, we are older Americans most of us and we are thrown together in a new experience that really is making history on this planet.

I like that about this place and I hate that about this place. Sometimes I long for the way people acted pretty much the same back home.

But considering all that do I love it? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

I learned a hard lesson taught quick here. Was sucked in on TOTV used and once this person moved here was spit out like car exhaust. Or for you Car Guys Suck Squeeze Bang Blow! Lesson learned.

I do feel fortunate to have meet You and Henry. Some day you gotta explain the Boy Howdie thing. I missed something there. It's a good thing right? :read:

Herv

[swimdawg]

I learned a hard lesson taught quick here. Was sucked in on TOTV used and once this person moved here was spit out like car exhaust. Or for you Car Guys Suck Squeeze Bang Blow! Lesson learned.

I do feel fortunate to have meet You and Henry. Some day you gotta explain the Boy Howdie thing. I missed something there. It's a good thing right? :read:

Herv

Carguys, I'm a little confused about your post. Could you "splain" a little more?

I did a search on Boy Howdy and this came from Gracie:
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From the Urban Dictionary
boy howdy88 up, 13 downSouthern slang. An interjection. Often used as an expression of surprise for large quantities of something, or severity of something. See yessum.
"Boy howdy! Them pumpkins sure are big! How're we gonna carry 'em all, Ms. McGregor?"
buy boy howdy mugs & shirts
by Fugerko.?Dec 23, 2003share thisadd a video
2.boy howdy112 up, 20 downAn exclamation of enthusiastic agreement which can be used in both a genuine or sarcastic tone. In addition can used to add emphasis to a statement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now....because I'm from Western New York....and we are the home of Buffalo Bob from the Howdy Doody Show....I have my very own WNY slang...of kinda saying, "Wow!"... "You have got to be kidding me?!"... "Yikes!" or "Give me a break!". I say, "Boy Howdy Doody!". But............to get back to the original question.....

...Is TV all you thought it would be?

[asianthree]

For my husband it is all he thought and more. For me not so much. I miss my gym thats open 24/7 and the 210 fitness classes that i can take for free. And what some wish for has an indoor pool and swim lanes. This is miss at 3am or whenever i choose to swim

[Yorio]

It's much more than we imagined. Having bought a place last year, it is different from visiting and staying with our friends or experiencing the Lifestyle Package. Before we were introduced to our friends' friends and we participated in their activities. Now we are making our own friends amongst our neighbors and other club activities. It is luck of the draw but the most appealing aspect is to have good neighbors which we have and to enjoy the commradie together. Though in recent I brought a good ex-military friend here and he said he can't live here because it reminded him of military compounds he'd been all around the world. ???

[JoeC1947]

I love all of the friendly people I meet in real life.

[graciegirl]

I learned a hard lesson taught quick here. Was sucked in on TOTV used and once this person moved here was spit out like car exhaust. Or for you Car Guys Suck Squeeze Bang Blow! Lesson learned.

I do feel fortunate to have meet You and Henry. Some day you gotta explain the Boy Howdie thing. I missed something there. It's a good thing right? :read:

Herv

I am not quite understanding carguy. We just think the world of you. Did I say something insensitive? If so I am sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your feelers or anyones. Please hurry home.

I hope you meant someone else. Sometimes I am not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Make that OFTEN.

Boy Howdy means......... Well, I'll be darned. Or...Gee Whiz, or I am at a loss for words.............

[Bogie Shooter]

I learned a hard lesson taught quick here. Was sucked in on TOTV used and once this person moved here was spit out like car exhaust. Or for you Car Guys Suck Squeeze Bang Blow! Lesson learned.

I do feel fortunate to have meet You and Henry. Some day you gotta explain the Boy Howdie thing. I missed something there. It's a good thing right? :read:

Herv

What?

[swimdawg]

What?

You will certainly be up for the finals in today's "Swimdawg Post of the Day Award"! :icon_wink:

[NotGolfer]

I would have to chime in and say we're feeling quite blessed to be here! Dreamed for years of not having to shovel snow and deal with ice and cold in the winters and the raking in the fall. I've lurked on TOTV for some time now and have observed (and maybe I do this at times too) that folks tend to want what they had "back home". You know, the food, restaurants, ambiance or you fill in the blank. Well we're NOT back home here so we have to acclimate to our new surroundings and culture.

I think of the rudeness...perhaps (and this is just that..a perhaps) these folks have brought their behaviors from whence they've come. I would say even in frustration, to treat them the way YOU would want to be treated---the Golden Rule goes a long way.

ALL of this being said...our expectations have been far exceeded and we love it here! :MOJE_whot:

[Penguin]

Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow pertains to the 4 cycles of a 4 stroke engine. Suck would be the intake stroke
Squeeze the compression stroke
Bang the power stroke and
Blow the exhaust stroke
What that has to do with this post I have no idea and let the honorable CarGuy explain. I'm just stating mechanical facts. :coolsmiley:

[eweissenbach]

We are snowbirds -- for now, and soon hope to be snowflakes. This was our first year to be here in Feb and Mar., and as I have said before I was actually amazed how little congestion we experienced. We have been in TV in April the prior two years, and we expected a real hassle this time, but found traffic manageable, resturaunts usually easily accessable, and the squares hopping, but not overly crowded. I suppose people who live here year-round, and compare it to summer and fall, find it somewhat troubling, but in our frame of reference it was all good. As for the original question, whether it was all we expected, yes and so much more. Who could anticipate a place quite like this? I don't think anyone has previously seen or experienced anything like TV, and so would be hard-pressed to envision all that is here. I often ask people who are experiencing TV for the first time what their impressions are and most respond with some variation of "unbelieveable". As often happens, when people ask me to tell them about The Villages, my response is usually - "you have to experience it, I can't adequately describe it." The Villages aren't perfect, but like the old saying, they are way better than wherever is in second place.

[CarGuys]

I am not quite understanding carguy. We just think the world of you. Did I say something insensitive? If so I am sorry. I didn't mean to hurt your feelers or anyones. Please hurry home.

I hope you meant someone else. Sometimes I am not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. Make that OFTEN.

Boy Howdy means......... Well, I'll be darned. Or...Gee Whiz, or I am at a loss for words.............

No you guys have all been great! I Pmed Swin Dawg for her e-mail again to spell it all out. Tooooooooo long for a Post.

I would sum it up or call it On-line bullying from a past poster . He is off line now because. " We are all TOTV negative jerks!" I need social skills to survive in TV. He's so dapper smart, the ladies man and soooooo wonderful. Other mens wifes would just die to have him. Mr. Midnight NOT! It is quite a nasty story one that when I move here will settle real quick face to face.

I think you summed it up Gracie there are some that can hurt feelings and throw out comments out of the range of good honest discussion mixed in with some TOTV well deserved humor. That equates to its fun getting jabbed but not fun when someone is mean! And takes advantage of anothers feelings

Ruth and I were a victim to one such man. It cost us money and emotional pain. From years of media I've taken some well deserved hits! But words can still hurt. We intrusted a fellow neighbor and he just plain cra----d on us and left us wondering what we did wrong? Of course from 1250 miles away that is impossible.

[CarGuys]

Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow pertains to the 4 cycles of a 4 stroke engine. Suck would be the intake stroke
Squeeze the compression stroke
Bang the power stroke and
Blow the exhaust stroke
What that has to do with this post I have no idea and let the honorable CarGuy explain. I'm just stating mechanical facts. :coolsmiley:

Brought in to a trust- Take in to a friendship
Squeezed- Used - Favors taken advise given
Bang- Attacked fired on ignited favors consumed
Blow- Dont need you any more- Your exhausted. NEXT!



Just a CarGuy thing so cool you know what it means! The relationship to this post is that while Taxes, Insurance, sinkholes, Electric vs Gas Carts and other things can make you wonder what don't you like about the Villages.

Well I will post because it's most likely happend to others. Words and people who claim t0 be your friend, a goood Christian and then just plain dump on ya in a time of need is mean!

Your a CarGuy and Biker like me. We know the bond that can take place and when a trust is broken it hurts!

Better news is once burned twice cautious!

[Trish Crocker]

Herv, as they say "shake the dust from your feet and move on" (actually THEY don't say it, I think I just made it up:rolleyes: )...anyway, don't waste one moment of your life worrying about some person that doesn't deserve to take up one minute! Concentrate instead on all of the great people you have met and will meet.

[graciegirl]

I agree with Trish. Don't let them take up real estate in your mind.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Then there's always this:

- - - Biker bar, just south of Myrtle Beach.........Suck Bang Blow : The Original Drive-Thru Biker Bars! - Site (http://www.suckbangblow.com)

Woo-hoo!! :faint:

Bill :)

[pooh]

Then there's always this:

- - - Biker bar, just south of Myrtle Beach.........Suck Bang Blow : The Original Drive-Thru Biker Bars! - Site (http://www.suckbangblow.com)

Woo-hoo!! :faint:

Bill :)

You come up with the neatest information, Bill....:bigbow:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

You come up with the neatest information, Bill....:bigbow:

Thanks, pooh! :)

But I WILL NOT divulge how it is that I know about that bar...... :shocked:

Ha-ha! :D

Bill :wave:

[Pturner]

Then there's always this:

- - - Biker bar, just south of Myrtle Beach.........Suck Bang Blow : The Original Drive-Thru Biker Bars! - Site (http://www.suckbangblow.com)

Woo-hoo!! :faint:

Bill :)

Nice of you to Squeeze that in.

[Golfer in Sanibel]

We are snowbirds -- for now, and soon hope to be snowflakes. This was our first year to be here in Feb and Mar., and as I have said before I was actually amazed how little congestion we experienced. We have been in TV in April the prior two years, and we expected a real hassle this time, but found traffic manageable, resturaunts usually easily accessable, and the squares hopping, but not overly crowded. I suppose people who live here year-round, and compare it to summer and fall, find it somewhat troubling, but in our frame of reference it was all good. As for the original question, whether it was all we expected, yes and so much more. Who could anticipate a place quite like this? I don't think anyone has previously seen or experienced anything like TV, and so would be hard-pressed to envision all that is here. I often ask people who are experiencing TV for the first time what their impressions are and most respond with some variation of "unbelieveable". As often happens, when people ask me to tell them about The Villages, my response is usually - "you have to experience it, I can't adequately describe it." The Villages aren't perfect, but like the old saying, they are way better than wherever is in second place.

I like that, Oldcoach. Very nice.:MOJE_whot:

[CarGuys]

Then there's always this:

- - - Biker bar, just south of Myrtle Beach.........Suck Bang Blow : The Original Drive-Thru Biker Bars! - Site (http://www.suckbangblow.com)

Woo-hoo!! :faint:

Bill :)

The movie Wild Hogs is coming into my mind. But Bill “Your a Harley Guy! That Bar can’t operate. It is missing one of the four strokes! Squeeze? But Ruth says that’s probably some where on the premises.

[jsw14]

TV isn't all that bad, it just takes me two cups of coffee in the mornin to find a Cold Beer!!!!:icon_wink::icon_wink:

[Penguin]

Then there's always this:

- - - Biker bar, just south of Myrtle Beach.........Suck Bang Blow : The Original Drive-Thru Biker Bars! - Site (http://www.suckbangblow.com)

Woo-hoo!! :faint:

Bill :)

They forgot the SQUISH part, I call it squish but some would say squeeze.There's a novel idea, let the bikers drink and not even get off their motorcycles.:MOJE_whot:

[ilovetv]

TV is all that we expected and MORE. We wake up every day and marvel that this place is all real and we are not dreaming!

We're here full time except for a few weeks in summer.

I must say.....I think it's really crappy when some (usually older Frogs) b*tch and moan about the snowbirds, renters, etc.

There is nobody here who's not paying their way to live here and partake of the lifestyle, recreation and entertainment. So please stop treating seasonal people like freeloaders or intruders.

Life's too short to be fighting over the small stuff. We have dozens of CYV neighbors who would give us the shirt off their back and come running for any little need or request we've made or might need to make one day. Most of them are the "salt of the earth", and seasonal people are included in those ranks. Neighbors are neighbors, regardless of whether they own, rent, or are seasonal.

We love it here and we love the people!!!!

[graciegirl]

TV is all that we expected and MORE. We wake up every day and marvel that this place is all real and we are not dreaming!

We're here full time except for a few weeks in summer.

I must say.....I think it's really crappy when some (usually older Frogs) b*tch and moan about the snowbirds, renters, etc.

There is nobody here who's not paying their way to live here and partake of the lifestyle, recreation and entertainment. So please stop treating seasonal people like freeloaders or intruders.

Life's too short to be fighting over the small stuff. We have dozens of CYV neighbors who would give us the shirt off their back and come running for any little need or request we've made or might need to make one day. Most of them are the "salt of the earth", and seasonal people are included in those ranks. Neighbors are neighbors, regardless of whether they own, rent, or are seasonal.

We love it here and we love the people!!!!



I love your post.

[ditzyfitzy]

I think Cappy makes several valid points. I think too that we are starting instant friendships with strangers thinking that age will negate a lot of other differences. That isn't true.

I think that our geographic origins and the way we were taught to expect or do certain things in certain situations plays a big role.

We easily begin new friendships here or expect friendly behavior from those we've just met and are "put off" by their "strange" responses. One new neighbor on the golf course said I was "fresh". (I had a dickens of a time finding out what "fresh" meant. It isn't a term used in Ohio. Someone bristled over my "Boy Howdy" which simply means "well, I'll be darned" to me and I thought everybody spoke Ohioese.

Midwesterners expect certain things that cause those from the coasts to think we are a little strange. People from certain area's use silence as soft disapproval where other areas HAVE TO HAVE the last word.

On top of this are the internet bullies, the newly affluent, the sick, the tired, the fiesty, the arrogant and the truly kind....all who have been that way for awhile or are trying out new personas.

There are a lot of "fresh starts" here and some invent their pasts to present to others.

In other words, we are older Americans most of us and we are thrown together in a new experience that really is making history on this planet.

I like that about this place and I hate that about this place. Sometimes I long for the way people acted pretty much the same back home.

But considering all that do I love it? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

Nicely said---except for the last sentence! For all of these reasons--I DO NOT LIKE IT HERE...and am looking to sell my home and move out of central FL. I don't seem to meet "authentic" people---meeting people who seem to live a life of "activity", "eating", "drinking"...rather than wanting to share ideas--work on "causes" or help the needy. Also a lot of lying going on---people inventing their pasts to present to others. THAT really bothers me....but, I seem to be in the minority here. The Villages is much more conservative than I thought it would be---I understand that FL is a conservative State (for the most part)...but, I didn't think I'd have to listen to neighbors using the "N" word or calling the President of the US a Muslim (as if that is a dirty word). Actually, I am taken aback at all of the hatred spewed under the guise of "conservatism"...here in The Villages. I have only been here for five years---thinking it would get better as more baby boomers moved into the area---but, it has not.

JMHO.

[swimdawg]

Nicely said---except for the last sentence! For all of these reasons--I DO NOT LIKE IT HERE...and am looking to sell my home and move out of central FL. I don't seem to meet "authentic" people---meeting people who seem to live a life of "activity", "eating", "drinking"...rather than wanting to share ideas--work on "causes" or help the needy. Also a lot of lying going on---people inventing their pasts to present to others. THAT really bothers me....but, I seem to be in the minority here. The Villages is much more conservative than I thought it would be---I understand that FL is a conservative State (for the most part)...but, I didn't think I'd have to listen to neighbors using the "N" word or calling the President of the US a Muslim (as if that is a dirty word). Actually, I am taken aback at all of the hatred spewed under the guise of "conservatism"...here in The Villages. I have only been here for five years---thinking it would get better as more baby boomers moved into the area---but, it has not.

JMHO.

Boy Howdy Doody!!!!!!

[pooh]

Nicely said---except for the last sentence! For all of these reasons--I DO NOT LIKE IT HERE...and am looking to sell my home and move out of central FL. I don't seem to meet "authentic" people---meeting people who seem to live a life of "activity", "eating", "drinking"...rather than wanting to share ideas--work on "causes" or help the needy. Also a lot of lying going on---people inventing their pasts to present to others. THAT really bothers me....but, I seem to be in the minority here. The Villages is much more conservative than I thought it would be---I understand that FL is a conservative State (for the most part)...but, I didn't think I'd have to listen to neighbors using the "N" word or calling the President of the US a Muslim (as if that is a dirty word). Actually, I am taken aback at all of the hatred spewed under the guise of "conservatism"...here in The Villages. I have only been here for five years---thinking it would get better as more baby boomers moved into the area---but, it has not.

JMHO.
Goodness, who the heck do you hang out with???

Oh, I have no doubt you've met people you've described and honestly, I've met some like that, too....but I encountered more like that in places other than here. Sorry you've had such a negative experience. Good luck on your newest and upcoming adventure.

[ditzyfitzy]

Is it just MY neighborhood--or do others experience the same thing?
I mean--the hatred and intolerance here of diversity--is really something!

[ditzyfitzy]

Goodness, who the heck do you hang out with???

Oh, I have no doubt you've met people you've described and honestly, I've met some like that, too....but I encountered more like that in places other than here. Sorry you've had such a negative experience. Good luck on your newest and upcoming adventure.


It's NOT the people who I hang out with---it's just that I have only met a FEW that have similar "value systems" to mine......I think that my neighborhood is a typical one---(in Hemingway)...and the people here are openly bigoted, anti-gay..anti ANYTHING that isn't white and military---that I find it quite astonishing!!! A few of my neighbors even have GUNS underneath their beds....very strange to me! I would never even DREAM of owning a gun...but, is it really necessary in TV?

[pooh]

It's NOT the people who I hang out with---it's just that I have only met a FEW that have similar "value systems" to mine......I think that my neighborhood is a typical one---(in Hemingway)...and the people here are openly bigoted, anti-gay..anti ANYTHING that isn't white and military---that I find it quite astonishing!!! A few of my neighbors even have GUNS underneath their beds....very strange to me! I would never even DREAM of owning a gun...but, is it really necessary in TV?

Oh my goodness! There are bigoted people in many communities....and I guess you've had the misfortune to meet some who live here...bummer, that's for sure.

Some only feel secure with firearms. Have a friend who has a pistol and will not give up having it around. Some have had guns from other locations they've lived in and it has become one of their forms of security I imagine. Even if it's not needed, giving up something that provides a sense of comfort and safety, well....that's not easy.

Have you met more that are bigoted than not? Do you feel it important to get away from them? You are obviously upset by these people....and I hope, wherever you might go, you'll not encounter that attitude in a new location. Guess I just sort of ignore those type of people.

TV isn't perfect, it's not to everyone's liking. Sorry it's not to yours.

[ditzyfitzy]

I am sure that there ARE bigoted people in all communities---but, I have never met so MANY in one place before! Don't EVEN want to get into politics...but, there are a LOT of tea-party folks here...and their intolerance and what I can only call IGNORANCE...is astonishing to me. When I try to engage in factual conversation ....they say that they don't "want the facts"...that they get all they need to know from "FOX NOISE".

My fibromyalgia is much better in the warmer climate...and that is why I left the Cleveland area to come to FL. I am hoping that someplace closer to a larger city---maybe Sarasota---I will find more diversity...more culture...more "enlightenment"???

[momesu]

I am sure that there ARE bigoted people in all communities---but, I have never met so MANY in one place before! Don't EVEN want to get into politics...but, there are a LOT of tea-party folks here...and their intolerance and what I can only call IGNORANCE...is astonishing to me. When I try to engage in factual conversation ....they say that they don't "want the facts"...that they get all they need to know from "FOX NOISE".

My fibromyalgia is much better in the warmer climate...and that is why I left the Cleveland area to come to FL. I am hoping that someplace closer to a larger city---maybe Sarasota---I will find more diversity...more culture...more "enlightenment"???

I am so sorry this has been your experience in TV. Like you I am more liberal than much of Central FL and TV, but I have been fortunate I guess to not encounter what you have. In fact I have been pleasantly at how many like minded people I have met since moving here. I have met many more conservative they are not bigots by any definition, just conservative. Also I have been very impressed with the number out reach programs people I have met are in. Maybe it is just the type of clubs I have joined and the church I have joined but I have found TV to be so much more than what I expected it to be which I guess is what you've encountered. Like I said I am so sorry you have had a negative experience here, but there really is a wonderfully caring and sharing group of TVer's out there.

Suzanne

[ditzyfitzy]

Thanks, Susanne...

[pooh]

I am sure that there ARE bigoted people in all communities---but, I have never met so MANY in one place before! Don't EVEN want to get into politics...but, there are a LOT of tea-party folks here...and their intolerance and what I can only call IGNORANCE...is astonishing to me. When I try to engage in factual conversation ....they say that they don't "want the facts"...that they get all they need to know from "FOX NOISE".

My fibromyalgia is much better in the warmer climate...and that is why I left the Cleveland area to come to FL. I am hoping that someplace closer to a larger city---maybe Sarasota---I will find more diversity...more culture...more "enlightenment"???

Glad you're fibromyalgia feels better in the warm climate, but sorry you're encountering so many with, well, almost closed minds. There are clubs with different attitudes about politics....open forums where discussion takes place without hatred or malice. Politics is a taboo subject for me, I'm not that well versed in it and I'd only be feeding a troll.... ;).....let them feed somewhere else..lol.

People move here with the feelings and attitudes from whence they came many times. Their way is the only way, their belief is the correct one....nothing will change their minds. For them, from me it's a smile and little interaction....heck, I'm probably not the type of person they want to hang around with, anyway.
Again, I'm sorry you're experiencing a less than homey feeling here. Sarasota is nice, my son and his family lived there for years....they loved it. If you do move, I hope you find just what your heart needs and desires.

[eweissenbach]

It's NOT the people who I hang out with---it's just that I have only met a FEW that have similar "value systems" to mine......I think that my neighborhood is a typical one---(in Hemingway)...and the people here are openly bigoted, anti-gay..anti ANYTHING that isn't white and military---that I find it quite astonishing!!! A few of my neighbors even have GUNS underneath their beds....very strange to me! I would never even DREAM of owning a gun...but, is it really necessary in TV?

DO NOT....I REPEAT.....DO NOT.....sign up for the politics board.

[rubicon]

Well once again open and honest dialogue detoriates into a diatribe. While no one has appointed me ambassador I cannot let stand a perception about the type of people who reside here in TV. For the past six years I can count on one hand the number of people, living in TV, I'd rather not be around...but even then in their presence each and every time I remained cordial. As I have been taught feelings are neither right or wrong ,but rather, it is how I react to those feelings that matter.

As the years pass quickly I am repeatedly convinced that the only emotion to embrace is the love for my family and giving them my undivided attention because in the end that is all that really matters.

[pooh]

Well once again open and honest dialogue detoriates into a diatribe. While no one has appointed me ambassador I cannot let stand a perception about the type of people who reside here in TV. For the past six years I can count on one hand the number of people, living in TV, I'd rather not be around...but even then in their presence each and every time I remained cordial. As I have been taught feelings are neither right or wrong ,but rather, it is how I react to those feelings that matter.

As the years pass quickly I am repeatedly convinced that the only emotion to embrace is the love for my family and giving them my undivided attention because in the end that is all that really matters.
:BigApplause::BigApplause::thumbup:

[graciegirl]

I don't like the political forum. I don't like to be where people can't TRY to find some common ground and embrace their similariities. Accepting diversity, to me... means trying peacefully to live with everyone, even with those with whom you disagree politically and with whom you don't share religious views or background.

I, like Pooh, try NOT to get into discussions with people about politics. You will never change their minds or your own.

Accepting their diversity (to me) means accepting that their life experiences have brought them to their current opinion.

[swimdawg]

Okay....okay kids...I never thought it would come to this. Now back to my question.....

Is TV all you thought it would be???

C'mon.....let's hear from some of you who rarely post. I can see you out there....reading this thread...with my x-ray vision. :D

[Moderator]

OK, folks, let's get back on topic and try to keep politics out of this thread. If you want to discuss political leanings and attitudes of Villagers, please take it to the political forum.

Also, please discuss the topic and not the person making the post. Respect and civility, please.

[Villages PL]

I posed this question to a new friend of mine. She gave me a very honest and insightful answer. She suggested that I ask this question on TOTV.

So...here goes: Is The Villages all you thought it would be? Please tell us how long you've been in TV....if you're a Frog or Snowbird/Snowflake. Maybe share with us if your feelings/thoughts about TV has changed with time?

Darn your x-ray vision, I thought I'd get away with just reading other people's posts. I've been here since 1999. I looked all over central Florida for a number of years but couldn't find any place that I felt I could relate to. When I started looking I was in my early to mid fifties and all I saw was a lot of "old" people. Now I'm 70 and I feel like I fit in, as far as age goes.

When I sold my house in a nearby small town, I had to make a fast decision. So I decided on the villages because I have a relative living here. I figured, "at least I know someone". But I didn't have any big expectations about the villages. I didn't think The Villages would make me happy. You're either a happy person or your not. Whatever you are, you bring it with you. So, I'm basically the same person today as I was when I came here.

About 98 percent of the time I'm content and happy.

To be continued:

[njbchbum]

am a bit like villages pl...we needed someplace to go to get out of the winter and we had several friends who lived in the villages...we had visited them on occasion and thoroughly enjoyed those visits so we had a good idea what it was all about.

as a youngster i grew up being judged by all i met...did my share of judging others, too...was asked by a college roomie 'who are you to judge?'' and quickly gave up the practice...so when we bought our snowbird retreat in the villages there were few expectations...and fewer judgements! we just accepted what came our way - graciously and with gratitude...even if what came our was was something less than we found acceptable or appropriate, we just took it for what it was worth and never let it bother us - even if it was a person!

life is too short to be upset by something or someone who is not like me. i love diversity because i learn so much from it. i may not like all of it - but i try very hard to learn from it. and the villages sure offers me diversity! i just hope that when i am there [and here on the forums] i offer my share of diversity gracefully. ;)

i guess expectations have their place - like when you buy something or pay for a service - but beyond that, my experience has shown that high expectations lead to disappointment and low expectations lead to pleasant surprises...we all need some of each to stay balanced.

[MSNPA]

We bought in 2006 and moved here as full time residents summer 2007. It took my husband a matter of days to be comfortable and happy. It took me much longer, but I am happy. I love the beauty of the community. I actually feel very safe living here. I love the opportunities to do so much. I attend line dance classes every day and always look forward to my yoga classes through The Life Long Learning College. I walk dogs at All Creatures Animal Sanctuary which is my favorite thing in the world and this never would have happened if I didn't live here.
There are still times I feel something is missing. Therefore every year we take a vacation and we always look for day trips, restaurants and shopping outside The Villages when we (I) need a change of pace.

[eweissenbach]

NOTHING you can buy will make you happy. Too many people think that a new car, new home, new man/woman, new golf clubs, new TV, etc. is all they need to make them happy. Happiness, or contentment comes from within, not from without. The Villages is a great place to live, but it won't make you happy unless you are predisposed to be happy. I think mostly happy, well adjusted people move to TV because they like the activities, the people of their age and interests, and the beauty. If they were not happy before, I fear they are not likely to be happy here. The evironment of TV is condusive to an active, healthy, entertaining lifestyle, but not everyone will avail themselves of those benefits. I guess I would say that is a good thing as there is only room for about 110,000 residents more or less, and there is not room for all the people who live in this world.

[jimbo2012]

"All Creatures Animal Sanctuary"

What's that all about?

[Bill-n-Brillo]

"All Creatures Animal Sanctuary"

What's that all about?

Here's their web site, I believe:

Home (http://www.allcreaturessanctuary.com/)

Bill :)

[swimdawg]

NOTHING you can buy will make you happy. Too many people think that a new car, new home, new man/woman, new golf clubs, new TV, etc. is all they need to make them happy. Happiness, or contentment comes from within, not from without. The Villages is a great place to live, but it won't make you happy unless you are predisposed to be happy. I think mostly happy, well adjusted people move to TV because they like the activities, the people of their age and interests, and the beauty. If they were not happy before, I fear they are not likely to be happy here. The evironment of TV is condusive to an active, healthy, entertaining lifestyle, but not everyone will avail themselves of those benefits. I guess I would say that is a good thing as there is only room for about 110,000 residents more or less, and there is not room for all the people who live in this world.

Good post, Ed! And how very true.

[looneycat]

having grown up in NYC T am used to crowds and people 'scrambling' for resources, that really doesn't bother me and I think the population growth versus the increase in 'resources' when brownwood opens, will still relieve a large amount of the crowding. yes it is all I thought it would be and more, waking to beauty and friendly people, enjoying the facilities...when I was a kid I went to sleep-away camp in the summer, now I live in one year round!

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