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jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 05:30 PM
Just wondering do carts need to be street legal to ride around the villages?
turn signals, seat belts, brake & tail lights, windshields etc
Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 05:35 PM
If you're going to stay on the multi-modal paths and on the TV streets, ie. any of the designated "golf cart approved" areas, you're good with a standard golf cart.
But you will want tail/brake/headlights, turn signals, windshield, plus a number of other things on a standard cart.
Bill :)
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 05:37 PM
Ok, what about lites at night, no one use them?
Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 05:39 PM
Heck yeah, man - that's what the head lights and tail lights are for. Necessary for driving the carts after dark.
Bill :)
ijusluvit
04-16-2012, 05:44 PM
However, regardless of whether you are only going to use the cart paths, I strongly recommend having functioning turn signals and headlights. A roof and windshield are almost as important.
(and lots of electric cart owners say a tow rope is essential too. )
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 05:47 PM
Hope I don't need a tow with a solar roof:thumbup:
Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 05:59 PM
jimbo, I don't know that a solar roof panel is going to be the end-all solution to potential battery depletion on an electric cart. I'd think the draw that the motor would put on the batteries would exceed the panel's charge capacity. JMHO....
Bill :)
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 06:08 PM
A buddy of mine is in the solar biz (and an engineer geek) here on Long Island, he's put together a nice package we're building it here to test it out.
He built one two years ago and it was not plugged in since!
But he doesn't use it like the time/distances at the villages.
He estimates it will add 40-50% more run time/distance.
So he and I are going to run it hard in the next few months and test it.
He motored around LI in a solar powered boat about 250 miles, he loves to experiment.
So my new build will be the guinea pig in about a month.
time will tell.
Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 06:13 PM
Ah.....if you're going to that extent, you might well be able to do it. I made a bad assumption about what you were going to have as your "solar roof"!! My bad!
Let us know how it turns out!
Bill :)
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 06:18 PM
I told him if it works well and he could document it he should move here in the winter and make them a side biz to NY company.
Bill do you have an electric cart?
If so how far or long can you drive it before it slows up?
I hear 30 miles around the Villages.
Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 06:20 PM
No sir, I don't - sorry! Several knowledgeable posters on the topic of electric carts on this forum that could give you all the insight you'd want.
You'd probably want to buzz through the Search function a couple of different ways to perhaps find some previous threads with the info you'd be looking for.
Bill :)
graciegirl
04-16-2012, 07:53 PM
A buddy of mine is in the solar biz (and an engineer geek) here on Long Island, he's put together a nice package we're building it here to test it out.
He built one two years ago and it was not plugged in since!
But he doesn't use it like the time/distances at the villages.
He estimates it will add 40-50% more run time/distance.
So he and I are going to run it hard in the next few months and test it.
He motored around LI in a solar powered boat about 250 miles, he loves to experiment.
So my new build will be the guinea pig in about a month.
time will tell.
That is pretty interesting.:thumbup: Is it one of the reasons you are interested in moving to The Villages? Sounds like a good place to market such an invention.:mornincoffee:
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Nope the main reason is NOT to work,
I only want to play.:BigApplause:
I'm suggesting he moves here for that.
KathieI
04-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Jim, I thought there were previous discussions about this subject many moons ago, and I did find the attached link. Maybe this adds to your idea.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/solar-powered-carts-12465/
jimbo2012
04-16-2012, 08:25 PM
Interesting four years ago.
He tells me it's easy to put a panel on the roof, the engineering difficulty is converting the voltage from the solar panel to the 48 volt battery bank.
He's going to start designing that controller.
There are none on the market at the moment or at a realistic price that work well.
I think it's a worthwhile endeavor to keep our carbon footprint to a minimum.
KathieI
04-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Interesting four years ago.
He tells me it's easy to put a panel on the roof, the engineering difficulty is converting the voltage from the solar panel to the 48 volt battery bank.
He's going to start designing that controller.
There are none on the market at the moment or at a realistic price that work well.
I think it's a worthwhile endeavor to keep our carbon footprint to a minimum.
:BigApplause: :agree:
momesu
04-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Interesting four years ago.
He tells me it's easy to put a panel on the roof, the engineering difficulty is converting the voltage from the solar panel to the 48 volt battery bank.
He's going to start designing that controller.
There are none on the market at the moment or at a realistic price that work well.
I think it's a worthwhile endeavor to keep our carbon footprint to a minimum.
I would love one of those....that is if it were affordable to the "common folk" :D I already love my electric cart and having a solar panel would just about make it perfect!
Suzanne
asianthree
04-17-2012, 08:34 AM
Would like to see the time line on how long it need to be in the sun for a charge. If we are talking about a round of 18 and a normal ride in the day to get you in to town at night and home would be great.
skyguy79
04-17-2012, 08:45 AM
This topic took a swing away from the original topic back at post #6. I'm not critizing or complaining about the swing, but would like to see more comments on the on the original question.
http://th272.photobucket.com/albums/jj184/befje/smileys/th_bf-swingeling.gif
ajbrown
04-17-2012, 09:15 AM
This topic took a swing away from the original topic back at post #6. I'm not critizing or complaining about the swing, but would like to see more comments on the on the original question.
http://th272.photobucket.com/albums/jj184/befje/smileys/th_bf-swingeling.gif
I think it was post #5, a gasser trying to stir up trouble http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fart005.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Just wondering do carts need to be street legal to ride around the villages?
turn signals, seat belts, brake & tail lights, windshields etc
Street legal is a legal definition which denotes an electric cart that has a VIN number and must be registered as a motor vehicle. A simple definition is here:
Laws & Regulations for Low Speed Vehicles & Golf Carts in Florida (http://www.fairwaygolfcartsonline.com/lawsforlowspeedvehicles-florida.html)
So the short answer already posted is that a cart does not need to be street legal to use the multi modal paths in TV.
I have no idea what governing body (if any) says that a NON street legal golf cart must have lights to drive around in TV. I honestly have never looked into it as common sense says you would be :loco: to drive at night without them.
PS. The solar work sounds fun :coolsmiley:
jimbo2012
04-17-2012, 09:19 AM
Would like to see the time line on how long it need to be in the sun for a charge. If we are talking about a round of 18 and a normal ride in the day to get you in to town at night and home would be great.
Well be mindful while you're on the course it's getting a charge, not sure how much in what 3-4 hours to play a round.
In fact from the time you leave your home it's in the sun working.
In Florida there is about 5 1/2 peak solar sun hours, but there is solar gain before and after that peak.
I'll be talking more about this to my friend the weekend after next and ask him.
If anyone else has any questions about the application let me know.
eweissenbach
04-17-2012, 10:11 AM
Just wondering do carts need to be street legal to ride around the villages?
turn signals, seat belts, brake & tail lights, windshields etc
I think you are confusing "street legal" with what is commonly referred to as "villages ready". The things you mention are villages ready and common on almost all golf carts in TV, both street legal and otherwise. A previous poster defined what it meant to be "street legal".
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