PDA

View Full Version : What are the rules about dogs in TV???


RedChariot
04-16-2012, 08:52 PM
I am new here and wondering if what I am seeing is acceptable. People walk their dogs and allow them to urinate on lawns (and those lawns were expensively landscaped). Some do use a baggie to pickup solid waste. Some let them go on a house that has not sold yet, and not pick it up. Is there a designated area people with dogs should take them? Are there rules regarding barking dogs? What recourse does someone in TV have if a neighbor leaves a barking dog out on a screened lanai? Dog lovers please be kind and not shoot the messenger. The rest of us have rights too.

graciegirl
04-16-2012, 09:11 PM
I am new here and wondering if what I am seeing is acceptable. People walk their dogs and allow them to urinate on lawns (and those lawns were expensively landscaped). Some do use a baggie to pickup solid waste. Some let them go on a house that has not sold yet, and not pick it up. Is there a designated area people with dogs should take them? Are there rules regarding barking dogs? What recourse does someone in TV have if a neighbor leaves a barking dog out on a screened lanai? Dog lovers please be kind and not shoot the messenger. The rest of us have rights too.

Get comfortable, everyone.:D:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:



AND WELCOME to TOTV, RED CHARIOT.

George Bieniaszek
04-16-2012, 09:17 PM
I will take the first swing of the bat at this one Gracie :thumbup:

This is a Pet Pee(ve) of mine (pun intended)!

Responsible pet owners let their pets do their business on THEIR property!!

Bill-n-Brillo
04-16-2012, 09:23 PM
I can feel my shorts bunching up already............... :shocked:

:D

RedChariot, in addition to what feedback you get from this thread, you might want to take a couple of swings at the Search function with some different search terms to see feedback from prior threads on the subject. Search term that might hit about everything you'd ever want to know on the topic: "dog poop"

And welcome to TOTV!!

Bill :)

swimdawg
04-16-2012, 09:42 PM
Get comfortable, everyone.:D:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:



AND WELCOME to TOTV, RED CHARIOT.

Any such thing as double or triple full moon these days???? :loco:

Oh....and lest I forget, Welcome to TOTV, Red Char!

ilovetv
04-16-2012, 10:13 PM
I am new here and wondering if what I am seeing is acceptable. People walk their dogs and allow them to urinate on lawns (and those lawns were expensively landscaped). Some do use a baggie to pickup solid waste. Some let them go on a house that has not sold yet, and not pick it up. Is there a designated area people with dogs should take them? Are there rules regarding barking dogs? What recourse does someone in TV have if a neighbor leaves a barking dog out on a screened lanai? Dog lovers please be kind and not shoot the messenger. The rest of us have rights too.

Not gonna shoot the messenger. I agree. That is why we bought a CYV...so our dog could be in its OWN yard safely for hours, and do its dooooooty on our OWN property.

Everyone here has a yard.....so USE it. (Not somebody else's.)

ilovetv
04-16-2012, 10:33 PM
I can feel my shorts bunching up already...............

Bill :)

Translation for us other midwesterners: Undies in a wad!!!!

paulandjean
04-17-2012, 06:05 AM
Looks like someone wants to start a fight.

graciegirl
04-17-2012, 06:27 AM
Knickers in a hitch.

Briefs in a bundle.

Thongs in a twist.

(for Tal...to the tune of Jingle Bells)

Dog poop threads
Dog poop theads
T;)inkle all the way
oh what fun it is to read a dog poop thead today.

senior citizen
04-17-2012, 06:35 AM
I am new here and wondering if what I am seeing is acceptable. People walk their dogs and allow them to urinate on lawns (and those lawns were expensively landscaped). Some do use a baggie to pickup solid waste. Some let them go on a house that has not sold yet, and not pick it up. Is there a designated area people with dogs should take them? Are there rules regarding barking dogs? What recourse does someone in TV have if a neighbor leaves a barking dog out on a screened lanai? Dog lovers please be kind and not shoot the messenger. The rest of us have rights too.

Sounds just like our neighborhood in Vermont. I think it's a losing battle.
Pets can do no wrong in the eyes of many owners. However, I often cringe thinking that my visiting, often barefoot, grandchildren will "slide down a hill" in the dog messes.

Some of the dog walkers are quite eccentric as we view them.
They truly do believe the pets are human.

They will literally walk the dog up the grassy front lawn hill to the pet's favorite spot. I'm laughing as I type this........but again, I don't think home owners can win over the pooches......plus there are bigger concerns in the world.....but yes, it is annoying.

pooh
04-17-2012, 06:37 AM
Get comfortable, everyone.:D:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:



AND WELCOME to TOTV, RED CHARIOT.

LOLOLOL....I almost choked on my Cheerios, Gracie.....:D
Popcorn ready!

Welcome Red Chariot!

senior citizen
04-17-2012, 06:38 AM
Any such thing as double or triple full moon these days???? :loco:

Oh....and lest I forget, Welcome to TOTV, Red Char!

Full moon is gone........mercury retrograde is over.......but Pluto just entered Capricorn and that brings out intense emotions for the long haul.

FULL MOON DATES 2012:

January: January 8
February: February 7
March: March 8
April: April 6
May: May 5
June: June 4
July: July 3
August: August 1 and August 31
September: September 29
October: October 29
November: November 28
December: December 17

pooh
04-17-2012, 06:40 AM
Knickers in a hitch.

Briefs in a bundle.

Thongs in a twist.

(for Tal...to the tune of Jingle Bells)

Dog poop threads
Dog poop theads
T;)inkle all the way
oh what fun it is to read a dog poop thead today.

Now I have milk all over my monitor.....LOLOLOL. :D:D:D

Uptown Girl
04-17-2012, 06:57 AM
Looks like someone wants to start a fight.

Oh... I don't think so, at least I hope not.

RedChariot, it's like this: There are people here in TV (like everywhere else) who choose to ignore the generous concept of being considerate of others. Sometimes they do it selectively and sometimes it is a determined lifestyle effort and encompasses everyone and every situation.
Occasionally it is unconscious, but not often. Most times it is a flat disregard
for others.
And bottom line, they do it because they WANT to. It's a choice.

TV is my home and I love living here. At our age, we all know how to behave and what is socially accepted behavior. Unless someone is newly arrived from another culture where social norms are different, or unless they are mentally altered in some way, they know how to act.

If others don't follow the program there aren't many options to correct the annoyance. Even if they are 'called on it', if they are determined and stubborn enough, they will just do whatever they really want to do, when nobody is looking next time.

You can try various ideas, but you'll have your gut in a knot most often.... your 'knickers in a twist'. The good thing here is that those people reveal themselves really fast, so you don't have to waste your time only to discover later that they aren't worthy.

AND P.S. You CAN call Community Watch about the barking dog left on the Lanai. You must give their address and your name. I did it to relieve my ears but also to help the poor distressed doggie who was left out there repeatedly. It worked. Both he and I are much calmer now and live in harmony.

Dayzee
04-17-2012, 08:05 AM
I am new to The Villages - just moved in in January. Let me start by writing that I have enjoyed TOTV for months now - you have been very informative and bring a smile to my face on a daily basis. Once one dog pees on a spot, each and every passing pooch has to put its mark on it - that is the case with our 'corner' lot. Yesterday, a spotted a man coming up the street with his dog and for some reason I just knew he was going to stop in our yard. I took my cup of coffee out to the lanai and stood there - staring at the man - no words spoken - when he noticed me watching, he tugged at the dogs leash and pulled him back in to the street. He knew he was wrong to allow his dog to pee on our grass but did it anyway!!! Guess I'll have to purchase a can of green spray paint to cover the brown spots :rolleyes:

skip0358
04-17-2012, 08:34 AM
IF the dog leaves a deposit that the owner doesn't pick up why not go pick it up and see where he goes home to and leave him the deposit. As I stated in an earlier post my front yard up north was my neighbors dogs private outhouse. So when it was time for the grass to be cut I grabbed my trusty garden shovel and as I found a deposit it got flung back over the property line. Took a few times but they got the message.

George Bieniaszek
04-17-2012, 09:02 AM
Like your post Skip. I had to educate my neighbor in CT in a similar way. My home is on a cul-de-sac with a large frontage and it also has a town right-of-way to open space that I maintain by cutting the grass. My neighbor would literally power walk down her driveway and across the street to my yard to take care of business with her dog. They catch on quickly ;)

I do not condone this behavior, but a friend of mine told me that during his rebellious youth, he would package up the little suprise in a little brown paper bag and bring it back to the owner's home and place it on the sidewalk leading up to his front door. Light it on fire and ring the doorbell and quickly walk away and watch with delight as the owner came out to stomp out the fire!! :girlneener:

eremite06
04-17-2012, 09:03 AM
IF the dog leaves a deposit that the owner doesn't pick up why not go pick it up and see where he goes home to and leave him the deposit. As I stated in an earlier post my front yard up north was my neighbors dogs private outhouse. So when it was time for the grass to be cut I grabbed my trusty garden shovel and as I found a deposit it got flung back over the property line. Took a few times but they got the message.

Had a similar problem when we lived on acreage in Palm Beach county. Neighbors allowed their two dogs to run all over the neighborhood. We had the granddaughter over for a holiday and she stepped in it while playing in our front yard. Took my shovel, scooped up the Do Do, walked over to the neighbors driveway and flinged it. Would you believe, the husband and wife were standing together in their driveway, he with a beer in his hand. He mumbled something about,.....oh, my girls let the dogs out. Problem is those dogs were always out running loose.

Soooo, I decided these neighbors need to be educated on the county's leash laws. I went to my computer and downloaded and printed the leash law. A few days later I walked over and inserted it in their mailbox.

Weeks later, I get a letter from the U.S. Postal Inspectors office saying the neighbor accused me of stealing their mail. They explained in detail the legal consequences of this offense and I need to cease and desist. Seems the wife "poopatrator," used to work for the P.O. :boxing2::boxing2:

JoeC1947
04-17-2012, 09:25 AM
Had a similar problem when we lived on acreage in Palm Beach county. Neighbors allowed their two dogs to run all over the neighborhood. We had the granddaughter over for a holiday and she stepped in it while playing in our front yard. Took my shovel, scooped up the Do Do, walked over to the neighbors driveway and flinged it. Would you believe, the husband and wife were standing together in their driveway, he with a beer in his hand. He mumbled something about,.....oh, my girls let the dogs out. Problem is those dogs were always out running loose.

Soooo, I decided these neighbors need to be educated on the county's leash laws. I went to my computer and downloaded and printed the leash law. A few days later I walked over and inserted it in their mailbox.

Weeks later, I get a letter from the U.S. Postal Inspectors office saying the neighbor accused me of stealing their mail. They explained in detail the legal consequences of this offense and I need to cease and desist. Seems the wife "poopatrator," used to work for the P.O. :boxing2::boxing2:

Good for her! It's against the law to open another persons mail box and for good reason.

RedChariot
04-17-2012, 09:28 AM
I am new to The Villages - just moved in in January. Let me start by writing that I have enjoyed TOTV for months now - you have been very informative and bring a smile to my face on a daily basis. Once one dog pees on a spot, each and every passing pooch has to put its mark on it - that is the case with our 'corner' lot. Yesterday, a spotted a man coming up the street with his dog and for some reason I just knew he was going to stop in our yard. I took my cup of coffee out to the lanai and stood there - staring at the man - no words spoken - when he noticed me watching, he tugged at the dogs leash and pulled him back in to the street. He knew he was wrong to allow his dog to pee on our grass but did it anyway!!! Guess I'll have to purchase a can of green spray paint to cover the brown spots :rolleyes:

I feel doomed. I have a corner lot in Sanibel.:ohdear:

graciegirl
04-17-2012, 09:33 AM
I feel doomed. I have a corner lot in Sanibel.:ohdear:


OH THAT corner lot. I hear that is close to a bunch of big dogs and their owners. Three or four Great Dane's near there. :laugh::ohdear::doggie:

looneycat
04-17-2012, 10:15 AM
IF the dog leaves a deposit that the owner doesn't pick up why not go pick it up and see where he goes home to and leave him the deposit. As I stated in an earlier post my front yard up north was my neighbors dogs private outhouse. So when it was time for the grass to be cut I grabbed my trusty garden shovel and as I found a deposit it got flung back over the property line. Took a few times but they got the message.

I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

graciegirl
04-17-2012, 10:26 AM
I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

Your picture is on the posse wall.

JoeC1947
04-17-2012, 10:37 AM
I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

You could be arrested for that! Very stupid thing to do. How would you like to be the UPS delivery person?

skip0358
04-17-2012, 10:40 AM
You could be arrested for that! Very stupid thing to do. How would you like to be the UPS delivery person?

Oh so that's why they wear brown uniforms!!!

skyguy79
04-17-2012, 11:41 AM
Oh so that's why they wear brown uniforms!!!We learn something new every day! :D

eremite06
04-17-2012, 11:57 AM
Good for her! It's against the law to open another persons mail box and for good reason.

Yeah Joe, I'll never touch another person's mailbox again. But, you missed my point. See how things can escalate when you play tit-for-tat with the neighbors. Got another story about one of my Village neighbors, but I'm not going there!:cus:

eweissenbach
04-17-2012, 12:45 PM
I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

You could be arrested for that! Very stupid thing to do. How would you like to be the UPS delivery person?

Not only stupid but ineffective as well. The direct approach is far superior to the passive-aggressive approach IMO. I once had a neighbor who called the police because my dog was barking in our fenced yard. The police came by and apologized, but had to make the call. I brought the dog in, but I knew who made the call, so I retaliated by calling the zoning board about a sign he had in his yard advertising some multi-level marketing scheme he was into, and was against local rules, and they made him take down the sign. Had he simply come to my house and explained that our dog's barking was disturbing him and asked if there was anything I could do, I would have been more than willing and happy to solve the problem. By calling the cops, he unduly got them involved, got his own problem brought to the attention of authorities, and lost and chance of gaining my respect or friendship. If you fell you are in the right and don't have the guts and confidence to approach things correctly, you are probably not going to get a satisfactory result.

rdhdleo
04-17-2012, 01:19 PM
I also live on a corner lot in Springdale. Love my neighbors they are the greatest. However a couple of years ago a house behind us was sold to new owner. They have a small very sweet dog that gets walked everyday. Let me also clarify I have 2 small dogs my husband and I love dearly. However our dogs only do their duty in our yard! Unfortunately our neighbor chooses to walk his dog on others lawns! Yes he pics up the poop but that dies not mean some residue is left not to mention what his dogs pee may do to anothers yard. We have stared and that did nothing. We really want to get along with ALL our neighbors but this has created a lot of animosity. Why don't people realize this isn't common area that their dog is pooping and urinating on a private lawn ? Thanks to Marion county we cannot put up one of those cute little signs that shows no doggie business on our lawn....(a little tidbit we were not told of when we bought). How do you nicely let someone who is obviously oblivious to others property that you would like them to not walk their dog on our lawn. Any ideas people? Still love TV and 99% of my neighbors :)

eweissenbach
04-17-2012, 01:31 PM
I also live on a corner lot in Springdale. Love my neighbors they are the greatest. However a couple of years ago a house behind us was sold to new owner. They have a small very sweet dog that gets walked everyday. Let me also clarify I have 2 small dogs my husband and I love dearly. However our dogs only do their duty in our yard! Unfortunately our neighbor chooses to walk his dog on others lawns! Yes he pics up the poop but that dies not mean some residue is left not to mention what his dogs pee may do to anothers yard. We have stared and that did nothing. We really want to get along with ALL our neighbors but this has created a lot of animosity. Why don't people realize this isn't common area that their dog is pooping and urinating on a private lawn ? Thanks to Marion county we cannot put up one of those cute little signs that shows no doggie business on our lawn....(a little tidbit we were not told of when we bought). How do you nicely let someone who is obviously oblivious to others property that you would like them to not walk their dog on our lawn. Any ideas people? Still love TV and 99% of my neighbors :)

I'll take a shot. Why not engage this person in a conversation that goes something like this............. I have seen you walking your dog, and it seems very sweet and well behaved. I also own a couple of dogs, and I noticed something early on. The neighbors didn't like my dogs doing their business in their yards, and as I thought about it, they were right. I have only allowed my dogs to go in my yard since then and it has kept my neighbors happy and with little inconvenience to me or my dogs. Probably no one has confronted you about this, but beleive me, there are likely several neighbors who feel you are persona non grata because of this. I am telling you this because I have found you to be a reasonable and respectful person, and would assume you did not want hard feelings with your neighbors.

albertehill
04-17-2012, 01:38 PM
I hope I'll like TV...they have deer up here in Pennsylvania and they make a mess in our yard. I also hope there are no Canada Geese in The Villages. Talk about poop!

glgene
04-17-2012, 01:42 PM
I'll take a shot. Why not engage this person in a conversation that goes something like this............. I have seen you walking your dog, and it seems very sweet and well behaved. I also own a couple of dogs, and I noticed something early on. The neighbors didn't like my dogs doing their business in their yards, and as I thought about they were right. I have only allowed my dogs to go in my yard since then and it has kept my neighbors happy and with little inconvenience to me or my dogs. Probably no one has confronted you about this, but beleive me, there are likely several neighbors who feel you are persona non grata because of this. I am telling you this because I have found you to be a reasonable and respectful person, and would assume you did not want hard feelings with your neighbors.

Do you teach PR at the Learning Center? Well-spoken words to get the point across. Congrats!

swimdawg
04-17-2012, 01:58 PM
I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

Boy Howdy Doody!

Sometimes I just cannot believe what I read on this forum. It's getting crazier and crazier. There just has got to be a double or triple full moon out there!!! LOONeycat.....oh yes!

No SPOTD Award for this one, trust me!!!

What next???? :eek:

jimbo2012
04-17-2012, 07:05 PM
I put the deposits in a plastic bag, put the bag in a box and ups'd it to the offender anonymously. almost pee'd my panties when they got it.

If you get caught you'd be peeing jail, totally illegal, you exposed innocent UPS workers to who knows what.

That is most spineless STUPID trick I heard of.
Moreover, to brag about it on a public forum you are shabby.

As I stated in an earlier post my front yard up north was my neighbors dogs private outhouse. So when it was time for the grass to be cut I grabbed my trusty garden shovel and as I found a deposit it got flung back over the property line. Took a few times but they got the message.

Why don't you guys have the guts to talk to your neighbor.

jojoin
04-17-2012, 10:00 PM
I once had a neighbor who called the police because my dog was barking in our fenced yard. The police came by and apologized, but had to make the call. I brought the dog in, but I knew who made the call, so I retaliated ..... Had he simply come to my house and explained that our dog's barking was disturbing him and asked if there was anything I could do, I would have been more than willing and happy to solve the problem.

Really?? Your dog's outside barking and you didn't bring him in till the police came. Maybe they shouldn't have called police, but it's a bit much to expect your neighbor to come and complain to you. If you can hear your dog barking assume it's bothersome to your neighbors. This is a more of a pet peeve than a dog pooping in my yard. As a dogowner, it's my responsibility to make sure my dog is not barking and annoying others. I shouldn't wait for my neighbor to get up the nerve to come complain to me before I'm "more than willing & happy to solve the problem."

eweissenbach
04-17-2012, 10:36 PM
Really?? Your dog's outside barking and you didn't bring him in till the police came. Maybe they shouldn't have called police, but it's a bit much to expect your neighbor to come and complain to you. If you can hear your dog barking assume it's bothersome to your neighbors. This is a more of a pet peeve than a dog pooping in my yard. As a dogowner, it's my responsibility to make sure my dog is not barking and annoying others. I shouldn't wait for my neighbor to get up the nerve to come complain to me before I'm "more than willing & happy to solve the problem."

I didn't hear the dog, my windows were closed the air conditioner was on, I was watching television, and I have hearing loss. I could have heard the telephone however, had my neighbor chosen to call me instead of the police.

Skybo
04-17-2012, 10:38 PM
I feel doomed. I have a corner lot in Sanibel.:ohdear:

Yup...I’m afraid you are. And I'm so sorry, because it's not right, but unfortunately, corner lots are the prime peeing areas. I'm a dog owner and I never, ever let my dogs walk on other people's property...but so many people do. Just please realize that for every inconsiderate @$#%%# dog owner out there...there are many, many more dog owners who are responsible and care about their neighbors.

Vinny
04-18-2012, 12:26 AM
Not gonna shoot the messenger. I agree. That is why we bought a CYV...so our dog could be in its OWN yard safely for hours, and do its dooooooty on our OWN property.

Everyone here has a yard.....so USE it. (Not somebody else's.)

Amen to that. Our entire choice of homes was based on our two dogs and their needs without infringing on others. We have since put in two doggy doors, extended the lanai and pretty much made it very comfortable and safe for our dogs. They go out on the lanai each morning to catch the sun and then come in before it gets too hot. My female likes it cold so she will stay in most of the day and then sleep on the lanai at night. She also enjoys Gecko hunting but has yet to catch one. I have not sat on the lanai in a year but am glad that the dogs are enjoying it. :icon_wink:

Vinny
04-18-2012, 12:32 AM
We had a problem as we have a corner lot and peopel think that the property on the far wall is common area and walk apparently large dogs judging by what is left behind. I am with one of the other posters about being direct. I even once picked up the dog poop and left it on the offenders door step each and every time until they got the message. For some reason they did not want to come out and "discuss" it with me. ;)

However in the last place we lived we found out that we could not do anything about dogs on the easement as we did not own that land and therefore it was not private property. Ever try to call a cop when a dog starts pooping and have the cop arrive in time to see it happen. it is a losing situation and I found that if I returned what their dog left behind they had nothing they could say about it and would choose some more passive homeowner's place to walk their dog.

jebartle
04-18-2012, 04:09 AM
Had this problem, spoke to the main culprit kindly, put out 2 little signs that read "Please No Pets", problem solved!

ricthemic
04-18-2012, 06:24 AM
I am new here and wondering if what I am seeing is acceptable. People walk their dogs and allow them to urinate on lawns (and those lawns were expensively landscaped). Some do use a baggie to pickup solid waste. Some let them go on a house that has not sold yet, and not pick it up. Is there a designated area people with dogs should take them? Are there rules regarding barking dogs? What recourse does someone in TV have if a neighbor leaves a barking dog out on a screened lanai? Dog lovers please be kind and not shoot the messenger. The rest of us have rights too.

I am not new here and you have every right to post this. Do not feel you have to justify your post due to all the "get the pop corn out again", "lol,lol", "why post this? just search it" etc etc remarks.
I too have a corner lot and a dog. He goes in MY yard ONLY. I too watch totally inconsiderate (cause they are not ignorant) residents allowing their dogs on twenty foot leases urinate and poop on everyone else's lawn but not their own (yes we see them come down their driveway walk up three houses to corner lot then right back hm, down comes the garage door). And I don't believe I should have to make up a story to inform the dog owners that guess what this is my property. I like the idea of the posse on many other subjects, I wish the posse wd side with the distessed property owners on this one.

So here is my question, Please there MUST be ONE you dog owners described above on TOTV reading this subject and all the other times it has been raised. Please, please just one of you specifically JUSTIFY why you take your dogs to deficate on your neighbors property.

Bill-n-Brillo
04-18-2012, 06:41 AM
......."why post this? just search it" etc etc remarks.
.......Please there MUST be ONE you dog owners described above on TOTV reading this subject and all the other times it has been raised. .......

To offer a bit of clarification: My suggestion (from earlier in the thread) to also do a few Searches was not implying that the O.P. shouldn't have started the thread. Sorry if you read that into it. The purpose was focused on hopefully encouraging people to utilize the Search function who perhaps might not even be aware of its existence. There are plenty of historical threads on the topic that can be perused......in addition to whatever else might be posted on it in this thread.

Thanks -
Bill :)

Posh 08
04-18-2012, 06:42 AM
With so many threads about this unsavory subject I must add another "con" to the pro/con list.

jimbo2012
04-18-2012, 06:55 AM
Please there MUST be ONE you dog owners described above on TOTV reading this subject and all the other times it has been raised. Please, please just one of you specifically JUSTIFY why you take your dogs to deficate on your neighbors property.

I don't think you can target your dog to go exactly when and where you want.....when nature calls the dog does what it must without regard as to where. ;)

swimdawg
04-18-2012, 07:46 AM
I don't think you can target your dog to go exactly when and where you want.....when nature calls the dog does what it must without regard as to where. ;)

Most dawgs have their "spot" where they target as doing their "big business". Through the years, my dawgs have always liked a certain area......and I have programmed the dawg by saying, "Let's go, let's go".....in that area (while she is going). Lexi....current dawg....likes to go to the side of the patio....and when I walk her down by the cul-de-sac, she knows exactly the area she can "do her thing" in the common area. It's common sense that no one likes to have their grass fertilized by dawgs....and when the dawg does "big business" in common area, it is promptly removed. :doggie:

Bogie Shooter
04-18-2012, 08:03 AM
To offer a bit of clarification: My suggestion (from earlier in the thread) to also do a few Searches was not implying that the O.P. shouldn't have started the thread. Sorry if you read that into it. The purpose was focused on hopefully encouraging people to utilize the Search function who perhaps might not even be aware of its existence. There are plenty of historical threads on the topic that can be perused......in addition to whatever else might be posted on it in this thread.

Thanks -
Bill :)

Never anything different posted whenever a new poop thread is started, so why not just repeat all the postings? Or all the issues and solutions could be summarized and posted in the "nuts and bolts" thread.:popcorn:

hotrodgirl
04-18-2012, 08:09 AM
I am anew to the forum, and will be at TV in May for the Lifestyle Preview Plan. I have been reading with interest all the pet threads as I have two small dogs. I consider myself a responsible pet owner who cares deeply about the well-being of my animals and that of my fellow neighbors as well. That being said, I walk my dogs 4 or 5 times per day, perhaps a mile ot two at a time. While I cannot control their "urge to go", I would never consider not picking up after them,and try to get them to go on a parkway or off someone's property when possible. Unfortunately this will not always be the case. I admonish those who are inconsiderate and don't pick up, but also am discouraged by those who choose to be irrational in their thoughts about pets. All of this talk has me thinking of canceling my upcoming house hunt, as I don't think I wish to be considered one of those awful pet owners. Currently I have another property in Florida and they have installed a pet post with bags and a waste can on the property. This both encourages people to pick up and throw out waste in a designated spot, or if not convenient, at home. The dog owners contribute to the cost. I do understand you have some dog parks there, but one of my dogs was attacked by a dog on our street and I am hesitant to go to a park where dogs are off lead. So we walk-a lot! I think we all need to temper our thoughts and consider we are not all on the same wavelength.

Posh 08
04-18-2012, 08:11 AM
Never anything different posted whenever a new poop thread is started, so why not just repeat all the postings? Or all the issues and solutions could be summarized and posted in the "nuts and bolts" thread.:popcorn:

Why hassle people for starting a thread? Maybe these folks just want to communicate. If you don't want to participate then stay away.

ajbrown
04-18-2012, 08:24 AM
We use a little spot south of 466A. No pickup, but bring a shovel :ohdear:

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af146/ajbrown2007/totv/P1040159.jpg

Bogie Shooter
04-18-2012, 09:48 AM
Why hassle people for starting a thread? Maybe these folks just want to communicate. If you don't want to participate then stay away.

I'm not leaving.....................

Uptown Girl
04-18-2012, 10:25 AM
I am anew to the forum, and will be at TV in May for the Lifestyle Preview Plan. I have been reading with interest all the pet threads as I have two small dogs. I consider myself a responsible pet owner who cares deeply about the well-being of my animals and that of my fellow neighbors as well. That being said, I walk my dogs 4 or 5 times per day, perhaps a mile ot two at a time. While I cannot control their "urge to go", I would never consider not picking up after them,and try to get them to go on a parkway or off someone's property when possible. Unfortunately this will not always be the case. I admonish those who are inconsiderate and don't pick up, but also am discouraged by those who choose to be irrational in their thoughts about pets. All of this talk has me thinking of canceling my upcoming house hunt, as I don't think I wish to be considered one of those awful pet owners. Currently I have another property in Florida and they have installed a pet post with bags and a waste can on the property. This both encourages people to pick up and throw out waste in a designated spot, or if not convenient, at home. The dog owners contribute to the cost. I do understand you have some dog parks there, but one of my dogs was attacked by a dog on our street and I am hesitant to go to a park where dogs are off lead. So we walk-a lot! I think we all need to temper our thoughts and consider we are not all on the same wavelength.

It's just that some areas that may look like common areas are really not. Here in TV each homeowner is responsible for watering and caring for grass and landscaping surrounding their home. Many of us pay to have the services done, including fertilization and pest treatments. Many of us have invested in specialty landscaping.
We live in a courtyard villa neighborhood. There isn't any area amongst the homes that is not the responsibility of some homeowner.... no real 'common property' that is cared for by The Villages. No parkways.
So when a dog is allowed to pee on a newly planted palm tree, for example, or along sod adjacent to a wall that the owner pays to have maintained, being annoyed has nothing to do with disliking dogs.... it has to do with owners who would rather ruin your plants and sod than their own.
If a person wouldn't let their dog pee on their own bougainvillea for example, why is the one on a stranger's property fair game?
I have been fortunate to own dogs for most of my life and I could never understand that reasoning. We have talked about this on the forum forever, by all accounts... and no one can offer a legitimate answer to that one question.

Here, our neighbors use their OWN yards, walk their dogs in the street, or take them by golf car to a doggy park. We have parks here where the dogs are separated in areas according to size, and the dogs love them, even the shy ones.
So, don't feel that we are overreacting, or that we as a group don't like dogs.
Just be aware that someone is paying to maintain the groomed areas around their homes in any neighborhood you walk in.
Oh, and Welcome! Hope your visit to our paradise will be most enjoyable! :laugh:

hotrodgirl
04-18-2012, 11:20 AM
That particularly concerns me as I have never encountered this anywhere I have lived. I also pay to have my lawn fertilized and maintained. But if a dog relieves itself on my lawn, I have no problem unless the owner fails to pick up after their pet. In all my years here, I have never had grass, nor flowers nor trees ruined. So where in TV can a person walk a dog a few miles without offending someone along the way? We do use our own yard whenever possible, but I like to give them some exercise out of doors as recommended by our vet. I avoid dog parks for the reason I stated above, so I am now rethinking my visit here. While I would never let my animals use someone's garden as a toilet, mature trees and grass are kind of unavoidable unless I carry them around. I always pick up, and dispose of my waste at home, or in a proper receptacle out of the way of shops, playgrounds, etc.
Thanks for your honest replies. I understand your views, and don't wish to encounter any animosity amongst neighbors, so I have a lot to think about:sigh:

jebartle
04-18-2012, 12:22 PM
the problem is not the poop, most responsible dog lovers take care of pick-up....The problem that we discovered, one dog PEES, next dog answers PEE-mail at same spot, and the next and so on, UNTIL you now have BROWN grass in that spot....Really bottom line, the old golden rule applies here!



That particularly concerns me as I have never encountered this anywhere I have lived. I also pay to have my lawn fertilized and maintained. But if a dog relieves itself on my lawn, I have no problem unless the owner fails to pick up after their pet. In all my years here, I have never had grass, nor flowers nor trees ruined. So where in TV can a person walk a dog a few miles without offending someone along the way? We do use our own yard whenever possible, but I like to give them some exercise out of doors as recommended by our vet. I avoid dog parks for the reason I stated above, so I am now rethinking my visit here. While I would never let my animals use someone's garden as a toilet, mature trees and grass are kind of unavoidable unless I carry them around. I always pick up, and dispose of my waste at home, or in a proper receptacle out of the way of shops, playgrounds, etc.
Thanks for your honest replies. I understand your views, and don't wish to encounter any animosity amongst neighbors, so I have a lot to think about:sigh:

mowdie
04-18-2012, 12:42 PM
Prior to happily becoming Villagers in 2009, we took our two dogs for walks alongside wooded areas. We always picked up after them, but didn't have to worry about where they urinated. When we moved here we had to make some changes. After their meals, we brought them in OUR yard to do their business, and THEN we'd go for walks in the street to a common area. They were only allowed to "mark" in common areas and if they had to "go" before we got home it was in common areas or curbside only.

We all learned quickly how to not leave residue on and/or yellow out anybody's lawn but our own. (No hardship for the dogs but a little more work for us if we don't pick up our yard every day)

Is there any reason why this wouldn't work for everyone?

Bill-n-Brillo
04-18-2012, 12:44 PM
.......Is there any reason why this wouldn't work for everyone?

Nope - sounds real reasonable and rational to me!

Bill :)

angiefox10
04-18-2012, 01:12 PM
I'm training my dogs to never pee or poop. As of now, they haven't caught on. But they will..... Soon...

Bill-n-Brillo
04-18-2012, 01:41 PM
I'm training my dogs to never pee or poop. As of now, they haven't caught on. But they will..... Soon...

Let us all know how that works out for ya........!!!! :faint:

Bill :)

Posh 08
04-18-2012, 01:56 PM
I'm not leaving.....................

No I bet you won't.

njbchbum
04-18-2012, 02:41 PM
since we also suffer the same insensitivities of pet owners in nj and tv because owners would not train their dogs to potty in their yards only, we were forced to train them ourselves.

i sought the advice of my vet re how to accomplish this and he told me to apply pepper/hot pepper to the perimeter of our lawn area. this does not injure the dog - just makes it stop seeking out that place to leave their mark.

my nj dog walkers now walk briskly past our property and our villages neighbors have taken to crossing the street to avoid our lawn! i find i can stock up when spices go on sale or i get them in a dollar store. application needs to be repeated every few weeks or after a rain storm.

this same maintainence program has worked well to rid our yard of a couple of gophers who moved in after neighbors eliminated their extensive garden! now if i could figure out how to get rid of the neighborhood geese fly-bys!

eremite06
04-18-2012, 04:59 PM
Prior to happily becoming Villagers in 2009, we took our two dogs for walks alongside wooded areas. We always picked up after them, but didn't have to worry about where they urinated. When we moved here we had to make some changes. After their meals, we brought them in OUR yard to do their business, and THEN we'd go for walks in the street to a common area. They were only allowed to "mark" in common areas and if they had to "go" before we got home it was in common areas or curbside only.

We all learned quickly how to not leave residue on and/or yellow out anybody's lawn but our own. (No hardship for the dogs but a little more work for us if we don't pick up our yard every day)

Is there any reason why this wouldn't work for everyone?

Yes. It is "a little more work.":icon_wink:

swrinfla
04-18-2012, 05:33 PM
Somewhere along the line, I know that I have posted how a thread like this one amuses me!

Many, many years ago (mid 1960s) I served on the board of the homeowners association on a private street in St. Louis, Missouri. At every annual business meeting just about the only subject matter was "The d*** dogs!"

Several years later (late 1990s) I again served on that same board. At every annual business meeting just about the only subject was "The d*** dogs!"

And, here I am in The Villages, where I read almost daily about "The d*** dogs!"

Seems to me that it's another of those perenniel problems [like the Mid-East] that will never be solved until all dog-owners pick up after their pooch!

Just reminiscing!

SWR
:beer3:

P.S.: In case you don't know, I am a Cat Person! :a040:

billethkid
04-18-2012, 06:38 PM
this subject is like the so many things in life....a very few, let's call them the minority, dog owners do not act responsibly.
Then there is another minority, the ones who actually see one of the irresponsible dog owners not doing the right thing.

The next thing that happens is the issue is presented as if there was a whole sale problem of nothing but irresponsible dog owners.

It is the typical minority reporting of the minorities while the majority get ignored.

Fact: most all dog owners do the right thing.

The usual making of a ham sandwich into a banquet routine!

btk

NotGolfer
04-18-2012, 08:10 PM
One rule...is do not walk your poochie on the golf-course paths or on the golf courses whatsoever! Saw a woman late today doing just that on the Amelia golf-course. She looked pretty comfortable doing it so wonder where the Ambassdor was!?! Regardless of what some folks feel about this...it isn't the thing to do.

ricthemic
04-18-2012, 10:05 PM
this subject is like the so many things in life....a very few, let's call them the minority, dog owners do not act responsibly.
Then there is another minority, the ones who actually see one of the irresponsible dog owners not doing the right thing.

The next thing that happens is the issue is presented as if there was a whole sale problem of nothing but irresponsible dog owners.

It is the typical minority reporting of the minorities while the majority get ignored.

Fact: most all dog owners do the right thing.

The usual making of a ham sandwich into a banquet routine!

btk

respect your opinions on many subjects. but to say as you said "Fact: most dog owners do the right thing." don't have any idea where or how you call that a "FACT" or what you could possibly based your statement on because there are a lot of villages and each one has a lot of neighborhoods... and from where I am sitting... most dog owners do NOT do the right thing.

zonerboy
04-18-2012, 10:57 PM
Although our dog does his business in the backyard of our courtyard villa, we do take him on frequent walks. When on a walk he is only allowed to walk on grass in "common areas" such as along outside walls of CYV's, along golf cart paths, and around mail box stations.
Although the mail station in our village is frequented by many dogs, I have not noted any problem with brown spots or yellow spots in the grass. Wonder why this is? Also, our dog is a neutered male, and no matter how many times he pees in our own yard, he always has some in reserve to sprinkle the occasional fire hydrant or bush. Errant pee episodes are not 100% preventable.
I always pick up any dog poop I see, but must admit it is far less of an annoyance to me than the provision of cigarette butts I see everywhere we walk. Smokers seem to toss them about with absolute abandon.

Barefoot
04-19-2012, 03:23 AM
this subject is like the so many things in life....a very few, let's call them the minority, dog owners do not act responsibly.
Then there is another minority, the ones who actually see one of the irresponsible dog owners not doing the right thing.

The next thing that happens is the issue is presented as if there was a whole sale problem of nothing but irresponsible dog owners.

It is the typical minority reporting of the minorities while the majority get ignored.

Fact: most all dog owners do the right thing.
:agree: so true!

ajbrown
04-19-2012, 07:18 AM
Disclaimer. We own a dog, we have always owned dogs and they become part of our family.

Here is my unofficial poll for Thursday. I had some stuff to do on the computer this AM, here is what I observed out my front window:

In summary, I had no idea how much dog traffic was on my road. Found ONE instance of a handler that had control of his dogs.


7:15 Two barking dogs barking in the yard of a villa directly behind our home. Let out with no supervision at 7:15 AM.
7:26 Woman walking two dogs, one large, one small. Large dog is up in plantings of neighbor across street, marks bushes (15+ feet into property). I asked her very politely a few weeks ago to not do this in my yard. Since then she has used the home across the street.
7:43 Man walking small dog. Dog using yards along the way, only in yards by a couple of feet.
7:50 Woman walking little dog, peed in my yard, 2 feet onto grass.
7:56 Man with one larger dog in my plant bed 15 feet from road sniffing…. no deposit, maybe next yard….
8:03 Stop the presses. Man walks by with two dogs on leash and under control… :eclipsee_gold_cup:
8:03 Man coming other way with little dog at end of leash barking at two behaved dogs, this dog marking most yards…


I need to head out now. I suspect the dog owners that do the right thing will be by later :1rotfl:

skyguy79
04-19-2012, 07:35 AM
I too have been able to survey our front lawn this AM, however my list is much much shorter:

Woman walking two older mini Collies. Regular passerby who usually keeps dogs on the road. This morning one walks on grass and takes a dump near end of property. Owner picks up. Me smiles! End of story!:clap2:
BTW, my disclaimer is that we haven't had a dog since 1999! It's kitty city today!
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRzzhUAEoyTQ4eKzIJnvsEb7p2WUyHpI 3eLFD3bbiXMovsQ-I-Gxtfy

Bogie Shooter
04-19-2012, 07:57 AM
:024:Disclaimer. We own a dog, we have always owned dogs and they become part of our family.

Here is my unofficial poll for Thursday. I had some stuff to do on the computer this AM, here is what I observed out my front window:

In summary, I had no idea how much dog traffic was on my road. Found ONE instance of a handler that had control of his dogs.


7:15 Two barking dogs barking in the yard of a villa directly behind our home. Let out with no supervision at 7:15 AM.
7:26 Woman walking two dogs, one large, one small. Large dog is up in plantings of neighbor across street, marks bushes (15+ feet into property). I asked her very politely a few weeks ago to not do this in my yard. Since then she has used the home across the street.
7:43 Man walking small dog. Dog using yards along the way, only in yards by a couple of feet.
7:50 Woman walking little dog, peed in my yard, 2 feet onto grass.
7:56 Man with one larger dog in my plant bed 15 feet from road sniffing…. no deposit, maybe next yard….
8:03 Stop the presses. Man walks by with two dogs on leash and under control… :eclipsee_gold_cup:
8:03 Man coming other way with little dog at end of leash barking at two behaved dogs, this dog marking most yards…


I need to head out now. I suspect the dog owners that do the right thing will be by later :1rotfl:

At last some factual data on the dog poop problem.:024:

graciegirl
04-19-2012, 08:41 AM
I love to read the posts on here from posters who I think always post fairly and with kindness. Swrinfla, Bogie Shooter, Barefoot, billethekid, skyguy, ajbrown, Notgolfer and many others ...all of them tell it how it is.

Just as Billethekid says, the problem comes from a minority of dog owners and I say they are the ones who probably didn't discipline their kids or didn't have any. We all love our own pets and children and think they are adorable and flawless...others haven't bonded with them. It is our job to take care of them in such a way as to not annoy other people.

We haven't enjoyed having a dog of our own for a long time and now love TWO kitties, Mikey, Harry and Hershey. But we love dogs. I sit on my front porch in the mornings and evenings and see my dog friends taking their owners out and about. Mozart sits in the back of the four seater as his mom or dad takes him out for a hamburger. Lucy walks slowly by and Prince trots with his French poodle cockiness. We see Gracie the ****zuh, and we know each other but she knows she is cuter, and we see a little iddy biddy dog who weighs less than five pounds and I forgot her name.(It isn't Bruiser..something like Amy or Taylor) We have a new Schnauzer whose owners just moved in,but we haven't been introduced yet and Gus who lives next door and is a thousand years old in dog years.. They all walk by with their owners and never stop to tinkle or poop in my yard. Their owners walk them in the street.

I love dogs. I love to see them and pet them and I am glad they are part of my experience in Lower Paradise.

hotrodgirl
04-19-2012, 09:18 AM
Thank you Gracie for that last nice comment. I have been reading with interest the posts here as I am coming in May for a Lifestyle visit and have 2 small dogs. I guess I am one of the responsible owners, as I watch my dogs carefully even in my own fenced yard here in the Chicago suburbs. I was a bit surprised at the intolerance and bickering of some, but understand they work hard to keep their yards looking nice. I asked myself if I wanted to join a community like that, but realize there are many, many people all with differing opinions. Pets are a wonderful part of our families, and one has to be committed to taking care of them responsibly, seeing to their needs, and reaping all the rewards they have to offer. No matter what the species! Infringing on your neighbors is never a good thing, be it pets or children or even oneself!
So I will come to TV in May with no preconceived notions and decide if this is indeed as nice as I have heard it to be! I look forward to my visit and experiencing all your communities have to offer!:wave:

eremite06
04-19-2012, 11:44 AM
By the way, saw a woman in front of the Rialto Theater, the other day, with a black cat on a leash.:pray:

looneycat
04-19-2012, 11:58 AM
You could be arrested for that! Very stupid thing to do. How would you like to be the UPS delivery person?

wrapped in plastic boxed and sealed.....I wouldn't give a ----!
and the UPS person would be perfectly safe.

angiefox10
04-19-2012, 12:00 PM
Thank you Gracie for that last nice comment. I have been reading with interest the posts here as I am coming in May for a Lifestyle visit and have 2 small dogs. I guess I am one of the responsible owners, as I watch my dogs carefully even in my own fenced yard here in the Chicago suburbs. I was a bit surprised at the intolerance and bickering of some, but understand they work hard to keep their yards looking nice. I asked myself if I wanted to join a community like that, but realize there are many, many people all with differing opinions. Pets are a wonderful part of our families, and one has to be committed to taking care of them responsibly, seeing to their needs, and reaping all the rewards they have to offer. No matter what the species! Infringing on your neighbors is never a good thing, be it pets or children or even oneself!
So I will come to TV in May with no preconceived notions and decide if this is indeed as nice as I have heard it to be! I look forward to my visit and experiencing all your communities have to offer!:wave:

Please don't let this thread detour you from coming down to TV. We really are a dog friendly community. Most of the dog owners are responsible.

Most of our neighbors have dogs as do we, and I for one have never seen anyone not pick up after their dog or let their dog run the yards.

However, on the rare occasions that a dog does pee on someone's lawn... The whole yard turns brown and the plants shrivel up and die! :loco:

Barefoot
04-19-2012, 12:26 PM
.... taking care of them responsibly, seeing to their needs, and reaping all the rewards they have to offer. No matter what the species! Infringing on your neighbors is never a good thing, be it pets or children or even oneself!
So I will come to TV in May with no preconceived notions and decide if this is indeed as nice as I have heard it to be! I look forward to my visit and experiencing all your communities have to offer!:wave:

I'm so glad that you're coming for visit in May. I just had a PM from a poor lady that said she cancelled her Lifestyle Visit because of this thread. She said she wouldn't feel comfortable living in a community where there are so many residents who don't like dogs. She really got a wrong impression of the true situation. In my humble opinion, of course.

You will have a wonderful time. And I think you'll discover that 99% of Residents love dogs. And that 99% of pet owners act responsibly.

angiefox10
04-19-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm so glad that you're coming for visit in May. I just had a PM from a poor lady that said she cancelled her Lifestyle Visit because of this thread. She said she wouldn't feel comfortable living in a community where there are so many residents who don't like dogs. She really got a wrong impression of the true situation. In my humble opinion, of course.

You will have a wonderful time. And I think you'll discover that 99% of Residents love dogs. And that 99% of pet owners act responsibly.


Oh no Bare... I hate that someone would feel that way. There are so many dog people and dog lovers here, as you well know.

I remember you wrote once that you can't take your dog to the square without being stopped often for someone to pet your dog!

I hope they change their minds! They and their dogs would LOVE it here!

gerryann
04-19-2012, 12:36 PM
If I were to give one reason for dragging my feet regarding moving to TV, it would be the aditude towards dogs. During my numerous visits to TV, I encountered so many "dirty looks" while walking my small dog. I'm not looking forward to that on a daily basis....forever. I make sure my "Gilda" does her business before we walk. Unfortunately, a few times she may have a small pee, or a poop that I IMMEDIETLY pick up. Since folks know that TV is supposedly a pet friendly community...why move here? I'm sure there are retirement communities where pets are not allowed.

hotrodgirl
04-19-2012, 01:08 PM
OMG! I hope that person will call back and reconsider. I would hate to think that this thread had anything to do with her decision. Although I had thought about that as well, I soon realized that a few comments I truly hated would not necessarily impact my decision to come down and view the Lifestyle plan. We all have the right to make that decision for ourselves, but without really experiencing The Villages at it's best, how can we come to that conclusion? Please, whoever you are, don't let this thread make your decision for you. Check it out for yourself and see what it has to offer! I can post something after my visit or send you a message if you'd like. :pray:

Schaumburger
04-19-2012, 01:18 PM
Thank you Gracie for that last nice comment. I have been reading with interest the posts here as I am coming in May for a Lifestyle visit and have 2 small dogs. I guess I am one of the responsible owners, as I watch my dogs carefully even in my own fenced yard here in the Chicago suburbs. I was a bit surprised at the intolerance and bickering of some, but understand they work hard to keep their yards looking nice. I asked myself if I wanted to join a community like that, but realize there are many, many people all with differing opinions. Pets are a wonderful part of our families, and one has to be committed to taking care of them responsibly, seeing to their needs, and reaping all the rewards they have to offer. No matter what the species! Infringing on your neighbors is never a good thing, be it pets or children or even oneself!
So I will come to TV in May with no preconceived notions and decide if this is indeed as nice as I have heard it to be! I look forward to my visit and experiencing all your communities have to offer!:wave:

Hello hotrodgirl -- I'm in Schaumburg so we are almost neighbors. Love to go to Ravinia in the summer. Tickets for the concerts in Ravinia go on sale next week I believe. Hope you enjoy your Lifestyle Preview Visit and don't drink all of the Arnold Palmers as I will be renting in TV in June, and I love to drink an Arnold Palmer (if you don't know what an Arnold Palmer is, order one at one of the restaurants in TV) -- quite refreshing on a hot summer day! :wave:

hotrodgirl
04-19-2012, 01:38 PM
Sent you a PM, S hau burger!

skyguy79
04-19-2012, 01:41 PM
I find it hard to believe that person could be deterred that easily from The Villages simply by the remarks made on this thread. From everything I, a non-dog owner have read and seen since moving here, The Villages is definitely in my opinion a haven for dog lovers. I've seen many while traveling around the villages, several walking their little cuties in our neighborhood and some even pooping on our lawn with caring owners faithfully picking up after them when they do. I've even, while sitting in my den and for my own amusement only, made up cute little names for a few based on the type and look of the dog. i.e Pugsley or Muggsy for a bulldog! Why I even think they've been provided with a doggie rest room specfically for their needs as you will see when you click the following link!

Special Doggie Restroom (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480x480/396658_372452596114084_535951299_n.jpg)

hotrodgirl
04-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Cute picture! And you are right. That's why I decided not to make my decision based upon a few comments I didn't appreciate. There are tons of neighborhoods, many of which are probably more pet friendly than others, and scads of people! I'm certain fully 99% are lovely people! And those who made the comments I didn't care for also have the right to their opinions. I have to respect that and just won't take my dogs near them if we were to meet. Perhaps they are wonderful neighbors excepting the dog thing. I just wouldn't live near them! I hope this lady will reconsider and go down for her trial run, else she will always wonder what it's really like in TV...

Ragman
04-19-2012, 03:29 PM
I was riding through Sanibel today (WOW is it growing) and saw a guy walking his dog across the street from his house. This area is a courtyard wall that backs up to the street for about 50 yds.

Either smart planning or a lucky break. Something to keep in mind if you have a dog though.

looneycat
04-20-2012, 10:35 AM
just wondering, is there a limit as to how many dogs you can have? I ask because I was playing golf at Bacall and I could swear I saw 4 dogs in someones birdcage across the street.

jimbo2012
04-20-2012, 10:41 AM
it's ok they were Bird Dogs

Barefoot
04-20-2012, 11:32 AM
just wondering, is there a limit as to how many dogs you can have? I ask because I was playing golf at Bacall and I could swear I saw 4 dogs in someones birdcage across the street.

You are allowed to have two domestic pets residing in your household. However, people do have friends with dogs, and visitors from away! So there would be no problem at all if you saw four dogs in a birdcage. That doesn't mean they permanently live there!

Bogie Shooter
04-20-2012, 11:38 AM
You are allowed to have two domestic pets residing in your household. However, people do have friends with dogs, and visitors from away! So there would be no problem at all if you saw four dogs in a birdcage. That doesn't mean they permanently live there!

Then again, maybe they do.

gerryann
04-20-2012, 11:55 AM
So......call the cops......:doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie: :cus: OMG....the whole place is falling apart....how dare they :ohdear:

Dayzee
04-20-2012, 12:00 PM
It's going to be a sad day when we have to decide which of our pets to bring with us to The Villages. The choice will be between our beloved collie-mix (Dayzee), and our two sweet kitties (Billy Bob & Emily Lou). This winter they remained at home - back in Michigan. Sure miss them!!!! Think the move would be hardest on the 15 year old dog. How did you all cope with leaving a pet(s) behind when you moved here?

Here2Stay
04-20-2012, 12:18 PM
:doggie:

Folks, I agree that dogs should use their own yards, but I can't image stressing myself over someone's dog using my yard to potty...unless they don't clean up naturally. It's just their nature while walking to mark area's. To stress over your lawns with such; is just petty....worry about the weeds in your yards first!:a040: I take pride in my lawn trust me, let's all learn to not sweat such small things in life, your lawn is the least of life's issues!!!!

birdawg
04-20-2012, 12:22 PM
You are allowed to have two domestic pets residing in your household. However, people do have friends with dogs, and visitors from away! So there would be no problem at all if you saw four dogs in a birdcage. That doesn't mean they permanently live there!

I think you can move with 3

gerryann
04-20-2012, 12:26 PM
Doesn't anyone else find it strange that anyone would report about a sighting that was seen...(IN SOMEONE'S BIRD CAGE)........I think I might report him or her as a peeping Tom.

billethkid
04-20-2012, 12:26 PM
is there a pet police that checks to see how many are moving in???

When I play golf I have a hard enough time concentrating on my ball let alone do a pet count along the way. I guess this also means I need to start wearing clothes out in the bird cage!!!

btk

Barefoot
04-20-2012, 12:30 PM
It's going to be a sad day when we have to decide which of our pets to bring with us to The Villages. The choice will be between our beloved collie-mix (Dayzee), and our two sweet kitties (Billy Bob & Emily Lou). This winter they remained at home - back in Michigan. Sure miss them!!!! Think the move would be hardest on the 15 year old dog. How did you all cope with leaving a pet(s) behind when you moved here?

Leave a pet behind? Never! Bring your beloved dog and your two kitties. As long as your cats are kept indoors, which is a must because of predators, no-one will call the Cat Police. I know many people with multiple (invisible) cats. We've had three pets in our household since 2007. Sadly, this year we lost our 20 year old Himalayan. Now we have two very visible dogs. ;)

skyguy79
04-20-2012, 12:33 PM
I think you can move with 3From everything I've heard, that's unofficially true or even a few more. But you can't obtain a new pet until you're under the two limit.

Actually, I think there aughta be a rule that you can't bring a dog into TV until you get FUMAR to allow your dog to lick his face! :throwtomatoes:
(Don't shoot me. I'm just kidding.... really I am!)

Bogie Shooter
04-20-2012, 12:35 PM
It's going to be a sad day when we have to decide which of our pets to bring with us to The Villages. The choice will be between our beloved collie-mix (Dayzee), and our two sweet kitties (Billy Bob & Emily Lou). This winter they remained at home - back in Michigan. Sure miss them!!!! Think the move would be hardest on the 15 year old dog. How did you all cope with leaving a pet(s) behind when you moved here?

Bring all three.:smiley:

Bogie Shooter
04-20-2012, 12:37 PM
Who is checking all homes for the number of pets?? I have yet to read here or anywhere else of someone having to get rid of a pet. Are we making a mountain out of a molehill????

skyguy79
04-20-2012, 12:46 PM
Who is checking all homes for the number of pets?? I have yet to read here or anywhere else of someone having to get rid of a pet. Are we making a mountain out of a molehill????Common Bogie, no ones making a mountain out of a mole hill. An honest questions was asked and unless I missed something sincere opinions are being given!

Addition: Well, after going back and checking again, perhaps there was one post that could be interpeted as making a mountain out of a mole hill. To me it wasn't enough of an issue for me to even noticed when I first read it! Anyway, bottom line is I agree with you about the original question about number of pets.

Bogie Shooter
04-20-2012, 12:50 PM
Common Bogie, no ones making a mountain out of a mole hill. An honest questions was asked and unless I missed something sincere opinions are being given!

So, If I say that you can have 6 dogs and two cats......that would be accepted. Oh wait, I think it really is 4 cats and two dogs.
My point is all of these "opinions" are just that, someone's guess as to what the rules really are.
The deed restrictions say two pets.................when did you see that enforced??

gerryann
04-20-2012, 12:51 PM
You're making a huge mountain out of a very small molehill.

duffysmom
04-20-2012, 02:44 PM
DayZee there is absolutely no reason to leave a pet behind. Two cats and a dog are perfectably acceptable. As mentioned I have never heard of anyone challenging a pet owner about having too many pets; there are so many other more important issues to deal with here in TV. An elderly dog would fit in perfectly. In my neighborhood I've seen some very old dogs being loveingly walked by their people and I've seen some very old people being walked by their dogs as well, so come on down and enjoy paradise.

JoeC1947
04-20-2012, 02:54 PM
You're making a huge mountain out of a very small molehill.

Yes, but can you have three moles as pets if you have a big enough molehill?
Does anyone know how big the molehill needs to be?

mulligan
04-20-2012, 03:41 PM
mountainous

jimbo2012
04-20-2012, 04:33 PM
I really can't see how it can be enforced what so ever,
no one has the right to come into your home and count?

Can you be stopped walking your dogs asking for ID,
no way enjoy your pets all of them, they enrich our lives.

I got a question, if I had a fish tank am I only allowed 2 fish.

KathieI
04-20-2012, 04:40 PM
It's going to be a sad day when we have to decide which of our pets to bring with us to The Villages. The choice will be between our beloved collie-mix (Dayzee), and our two sweet kitties (Billy Bob & Emily Lou). This winter they remained at home - back in Michigan. Sure miss them!!!! Think the move would be hardest on the 15 year old dog. How did you all cope with leaving a pet(s) behind when you moved here?

OMG, Dayz,,,, don't even think about leaving anyone behind. OMG, my heart is breaking.... you will be grandfathered in with all your animals. Believe me, I came with 3 very bad little schnauzers, and was welcomed with all 3. I was told though as one passes, you can't replace it. I knew 2 were old already, 15 and 16, and that they didn't have much more to go and when they did pass, I replaced them with another schnauzer. So now I'm in compliance. Please do not think of leaving your wonderful pets behind. Looking forward to meeting your WHOLE family.... Kath

Barefoot
04-20-2012, 04:45 PM
I got a question, if I had a fish tank am I only allowed 2 fish.

Yes, two fish, unless you have a bird. The Fish Police will stop by every couple of days to make sure your fish aren't reproducing.

A Sales Rep once told us that the "two domestic pets" rule was originally made to prevent residents from breeding animals.

Dayzee
04-20-2012, 05:16 PM
No pet police - whew, glad to hear it. Looks like we'll have a car load and a VERY interesting ride when we return in October. Thanks everyone for the info and encouragement. :wave:

skyguy79
04-20-2012, 05:22 PM
I got a question, if I had a fish tank am I only allowed 2 fish.Only if they're catfish!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e303/MySpotToo/EmoticonCatScratching.gif

jimbo2012
04-20-2012, 05:27 PM
So if my guppies have babies, I'll just call the fish police I suppose.


http://www.breeding-guppies.com/images/guppy3.jpg

JoeC1947
04-20-2012, 05:42 PM
So if my guppies have babies, I'll just call the fish police I suppose.


http://www.breeding-guppies.com/images/guppy3.jpg

You should have your guppies spayed or neutered to avoid that potential issue!

The Great Fumar
04-20-2012, 06:10 PM
I am anew to the forum, and will be at TV in May for the Lifestyle Preview Plan. I have been reading with interest all the pet threads as I have two small dogs. I consider myself a responsible pet owner who cares deeply about the well-being of my animals and that of my fellow neighbors as well. That being said, I walk my dogs 4 or 5 times per day, perhaps a mile ot two at a time. While I cannot control their "urge to go", I would never consider not picking up after them,and try to get them to go on a parkway or off someone's property when possible. Unfortunately this will not always be the case. I admonish those who are inconsiderate and don't pick up, but also am discouraged by those who choose to be irrational in their thoughts about pets. All of this talk has me thinking of canceling my upcoming house hunt, as I don't think I wish to be considered one of those awful pet owners. Currently I have another property in Florida and they have installed a pet post with bags and a waste can on the property. This both encourages people to pick up and throw out waste in a designated spot, or if not convenient, at home. The dog owners contribute to the cost. I do understand you have some dog parks there, but one of my dogs was attacked by a dog on our street and I am hesitant to go to a park where dogs are off lead. So we walk-a lot! I think we all need to temper our thoughts and consider we are not all on the same wavelength.

Wonderful !!! I hope you'll be very happy there.....

fumar

Bogie Shooter
04-20-2012, 07:03 PM
Classic Fumar..............:boom:

looneycat
04-21-2012, 09:50 AM
Doesn't anyone else find it strange that anyone would report about a sighting that was seen...(IN SOMEONE'S BIRD CAGE)........I think I might report him or her as a peeping Tom.

Gee let's see, you see something from the street, out in the open, and have to worry about people like you thinking that they are a peeping tom?
if anything is strange it's your statement!!!

looneycat
04-21-2012, 09:59 AM
Not only stupid but ineffective as well. The direct approach is far superior to the passive-aggressive approach IMO. I once had a neighbor who called the police because my dog was barking in our fenced yard. The police came by and apologized, but had to make the call. I brought the dog in, but I knew who made the call, so I retaliated by calling the zoning board about a sign he had in his yard advertising some multi-level marketing scheme he was into, and was against local rules, and they made him take down the sign. Had he simply come to my house and explained that our dog's barking was disturbing him and asked if there was anything I could do, I would have been more than willing and happy to solve the problem. By calling the cops, he unduly got them involved, got his own problem brought to the attention of authorities, and lost and chance of gaining my respect or friendship. If you fell you are in the right and don't have the guts and confidence to approach things correctly, you are probably not going to get a satisfactory result.

sorry but it wasn't stupid, it was effective and stopped the problem immediately, I'd say it turned out to be the best method since the direct approach failed, several times, miserably. So you were completely wrong....and why would I care about your experiences since your method was stupid and ineffective, oh, don't like the words then DON'T USE THEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE!!

hotrodgirl
04-21-2012, 10:06 AM
Fumar, how succinct of you! Yes, I am very happy there. However as a consummate positive thinker I am happy wherever I am. We make our own happiness in the end result, don't we?

Leisha2
04-21-2012, 10:26 AM
Dogs aren't the only animals, etc. that pee and poop on lawns. We have squirrels, anoles, snakes, I think grass was invented with this purpose in mind.

JoeC1947
04-21-2012, 10:31 AM
wrapped in plastic boxed and sealed.....I wouldn't give a ----!
and the UPS person would be perfectly safe.

When asked if the package contained any hazardous materials what was your answer? Have you ever heard of a perfectly wrapped package getting damaged and opening? You put many people at risk. If you think that this stupid, sick action of yours was OK then you need to see a doctor.

JoeC1947
04-21-2012, 10:32 AM
sorry but it wasn't stupid, it was effective and stopped the problem immediately, I'd say it turned out to be the best method since the direct approach failed, several times, miserably. So you were completely wrong....and why would I care about your experiences since your method was stupid and ineffective, oh, don't like the words then DON'T USE THEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE!!

Sorry, but it WAS stupid, sick and ILLEGAL!

graciegirl
04-21-2012, 10:56 AM
Looney wasn't at Crispers yesterday. Neither was Larry or George.

Barefoot
04-21-2012, 11:03 AM
just wondering, is there a limit as to how many dogs you can have? I ask because I was playing golf at Bacall and I could swear I saw 4 dogs in someones birdcage across the street.

Gee let's see, you see something from the street, out in the open, and have to worry about people like you thinking that they are a peeping tom? if anything is strange it's your statement!!!

You say that you "could swear you saw 4 dogs in someone's birdcage". Why on earth would this bother you? We often have friends and over-night company visit us, and often they have dogs. I don't understand why you would be concerned enough to post this.

jimbo2012
04-21-2012, 11:38 AM
sorry but it wasn't stupid, it was effective and stopped the problem immediately, I'd say it turned out to be the best method since the direct approach failed, several times, miserably. So you were completely wrong....and why would I care about your experiences since your method was stupid and ineffective, oh, don't like the words then DON'T USE THEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE!!

Really, it is considered a biohazard

A Postal Service spokeswoman said the U.S. Postal Service prohibits sending feces through the mail except for medical or veterinary purposes, and in those instances the samples must meet rigorous packing and labeling requirements.

and

A South Dakota man has been fined and sentenced to probation for sending a letter containing animal feces to a local government office.
Jeffrey Dezeeuw pleaded guilty in a Sioux Falls federal court to one count of mailing injurious articles. The 45-year-old man smeared excrement on a traffic citation, a note and cash before sending it to the Minnehaha County Cerk of Courts last July. Dezeeuw faces three years of probation and a $500 fine.


Maybe stupid is to mild!:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

billethkid
04-21-2012, 11:46 AM
you all are missing two important elements in this thread.

It ain't the dogs!! It is their very inconsiderate, selfish PEOPLE....the owners of the dogs....your neighbors....

Secondly it is some of the others that are not dog owners who profess they can even smell the pee in their grass....

and lastly we are all banging our keyboards about the minority, as usual that tend to get all the attention.

How about the other 98+% that are responsible dog owners.

btk

JoeC1947
04-21-2012, 01:59 PM
You say that you "could swear you saw 4 dogs in someone's birdcage". Why on earth would this bother you? We often have friends and over-night company visit us, and often they have dogs. I don't understand why you would be concerned enough to post this.

I saw a picture of this once, they were playing poker.... or was it craps! LOL

skyguy79
04-21-2012, 02:17 PM
Really, it is considered a biohazard

A Postal Service spokeswoman said the U.S. Postal Service prohibits sending feces through the mail except for medical or veterinary purposesMaybe it was! You know, like when the two nuns were buying some booze from the liquor store for their mother superiors diarrhea? :shocked: http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif

DugCave
04-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Its a little late to do this, but why didn't the developer incorporate dog free villages in their master plan? That way if a person didn't want to live next to or around dogs, they would simply buy a house in a dog free village.

Posh 08
04-21-2012, 02:28 PM
I saw a picture of this once, they were playing poker.... or was it craps! LOL

:clap2:

Bogie Shooter
04-21-2012, 02:48 PM
Its a little late to do this, but why didn't the developer incorporate dog free villages in their master plan? That way if a person didn't want to live next to or around dogs, they would simply buy a house in a dog free village.

Your right...............its too late!

Posh 08
04-21-2012, 02:53 PM
Its a little late to do this, but why didn't the developer incorporate dog free villages in their master plan? That way if a person didn't want to live next to or around dogs, they would simply buy a house in a dog free village.

That would have been swell. We want a kitty kat habitat.

Barefoot
04-21-2012, 04:11 PM
You say that you "could swear you saw 4 dogs in someone's birdcage".


I saw a picture of this once, they were playing poker.... or was it craps! LOL

:clap2: Now that is funny.

JoeC1947
04-21-2012, 05:06 PM
That would have been swell. We want a kitty kat habitat.

I agree! We could use a cat house around here!

Posh 08
04-21-2012, 05:08 PM
I agree! We could use a cat house around here!

Do you work for the Secret Service?.........

JoeC1947
04-21-2012, 05:41 PM
Do you work for the Secret Service?.........

Not any more.:cryin2:

Posh 08
04-21-2012, 05:43 PM
Not any more.:cryin2:

the Casa Da Puta can end careers.

JoeC1947
04-22-2012, 06:43 AM
the Casa Da Puta can end careers.

Okay, I slept on this one and I still don't get it? I even googled it and came up empty. I know that you don't shoot blanks so pleeeeeeese! What does it all mean??????

Bill-n-Brillo
04-22-2012, 08:42 AM
the Casa Da Puta can end careers.

Okay, I slept on this one and I still don't get it? I even googled it and came up empty. I know that you don't shoot blanks so pleeeeeeese! What does it all mean??????

Your Googler must be broken, Joe!!! :1rotfl:

Translation................

Casa = house

Da = of

Puta = prostitute

Bill :)

JoeC1947
04-22-2012, 09:15 AM
Your Googler must be broken, Joe!!! :1rotfl:

Translation................

Casa = house

Da = of

Puta = prostitute

Bill :)

"Your Googler must be broken, Joe"

Alas, I knew that this day would come but, so soon?:sad:

Thanks again Bill. You ARE..........The Answer Man!

skyguy79
04-22-2012, 10:36 AM
Your Googler must be broken, Joe!!! :1rotfl:

Translation................

Casa = house

Da = of

Puta = prostitute

Bill :)You're correct... in Spanish. However, in Italian the Puta would be Puttana and in Portgugese Puta would mean Bi*ch! Either way, bottom line remains the same! :highfive:

p.s. I didn't us Googler!:1rotfl:

looneycat
04-22-2012, 03:01 PM
Really, it is considered a biohazard

A Postal Service spokeswoman said the U.S. Postal Service prohibits sending feces through the mail except for medical or veterinary purposes, and in those instances the samples must meet rigorous packing and labeling requirements.

and

A South Dakota man has been fined and sentenced to probation for sending a letter containing animal feces to a local government office.
Jeffrey Dezeeuw pleaded guilty in a Sioux Falls federal court to one count of mailing injurious articles. The 45-year-old man smeared excrement on a traffic citation, a note and cash before sending it to the Minnehaha County Cerk of Courts last July. Dezeeuw faces three years of probation and a $500 fine.


Maybe stupid is to mild!:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

nice research, enjoying yourself yet? don't get so excited up there wherever you are.:ho:

looneycat
04-22-2012, 03:04 PM
Maybe it was! You know, like when the two nuns were buying some booze from the liquor store for their mother superiors diarrhea? :shocked: http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/laugh.gif

or trip over someone's life story....bio-hazard :1rotfl:

TOMCAT
04-28-2012, 03:58 PM
I live in Long Island. I do have a dog that I walk on the street and clean up after him. What I do not understand are some other dog walkers who walk their dog on the sidewalk and let them do their business on people's lawns. I seen one lawn that had so much dog crap on it that the owner put a sign on the lawn to tell the dog walkers to clean up after their dogs. I think he was being very nice about it.

Even if they clean it up, there is still residue and urine can burn a lawn also. Why can't they walk the dog on the street or let them go in their own backyards. The Villages looks very clean. I hope the dog problem is not that bad over there. :shrug:

Bogie Shooter
04-28-2012, 04:19 PM
Should have left sleeping dogs lie............140+ posts.

mko7152
04-29-2012, 08:45 AM
Sounds like a good idea if I knew it what that meant. Can you please tell me what a CYV stands for?

JSR22
04-29-2012, 08:51 AM
Court Yard Villa. We are purchasing one because of our dogs. They have an enclosed yard to play and do their business.

Barefoot
04-29-2012, 08:55 AM
Sounds like a good idea if I knew it what that meant. Can you please tell me what a CYV stands for?

Courtyard Villa.

I use the search button a lot, located at the top of the screen in the blue band. You can hit "search" and key in a topic, to read previous threads.

I'm not trying to discourage you from asking questions, not at all. We love questions on TOTV. And we're all happy to answer any questions you have. I'm just telling you about the Search button because I didn't know about it for a while. And I use it a lot, if I want to look at a previous post about a certain topic, or get the name of a cleaning company, or contractor, or pet sitting company, etc. I find it very handy.

mko7152
04-29-2012, 11:20 AM
Thanks for the quick responses and the information. Much appreciated. Everyone is just so nice to share information. We can't wait to get there! Just waiting to sell our house!