here is a Democrat that maybe I can like...

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"In a stunning backtrack that virtually guarantees Congress for the third year will be unable to produce a budget, Senate Democrats’ top budget writer Tuesday canceled this week’s expected votes on a 2013 fiscal blueprint.

Instead, Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, North Dakota Democrat, said he will use the next few months to try to breathe life into the shelved 2-year-old Bowles-Simpson deficit commission proposal."

Not stunning that the Democrats again will not even vote on a budget, but that Bowles Simpson commission WHICH WAS ANOTHER OF OBAMAS BIG GRANDSTAND PLAYS THAT HE IGNORED, needs to be discussed. It is a great starting point to get at and solve our budget woes.

Kudos to Conrad...

"Though President Obama established the Bowles-Simpson commission, he rejected its December 2010 proposal, and Democrats who controlled Congress at the time did not bring up it up for a vote."

Democrats punt on Senate budget bill for third year - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/17/democrats-punt-on-senate-budget-bill-for-3rd-year/)

There are Republicans who are upset as well, but in my opinion they have to begin a discussion on this...the President and Harry Reid have stonewalled any attempt at it, but lets have a go at it.

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and rather - i see that as just kicking the can down the road and avoiding hard work and real decisions...Sen. Conrad backs off plan to vote on budget - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/222083-conrad-backs-off-plan-to-vote-on-budget)

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and rather - i see that as just kicking the can down the road and avoiding hard work and real decisions...Sen. Conrad backs off plan to vote on budget - TheHill.com (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/222083-conrad-backs-off-plan-to-vote-on-budget)

oKAY..MAYBE not clear....you are right and that is what is always expected of this Democratic Senate..that is what they do.

I was speaking more to reopening the debate on the panel put together by the President and then pushed aside. IT has things that both sides disagree on, but it does what the President asked them to do...and in pretty straight forward words.

I surely do not subscribe to all of it, nor does either side,....my point was that wouldnt it be nice if they at least talked about it TO each other..try for common ground.

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oKAY..MAYBE not clear....you are right and that is what is always expected of this Democratic Senate..that is what they do.

I was speaking more to reopening the debate on the panel put together by the President and then pushed aside. IT has things that both sides disagree on, but it does what the President asked them to do...and in pretty straight forward words.

I surely do not subscribe to all of it, nor does either side,....my point was that wouldnt it be nice if they at least talked about it TO each other..try for common ground.
They need to work on it and come to their senses. We'll be broke if not.

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More on this story.....

"Fast forward to this past Monday, when Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D., announced he would attempt to pass a Democratic budget out of his committee for the first time since 2009. Conrad even held a press conference Tuesday during which he released a budget document nearly identical to the Bowles-Simpson deficit reduction plan that President Obama rejected in 2010.

But Reid quickly moved to quash this plan, and Conrad, who is retiring after this year, backed off at the eleventh hour. "This is the wrong time to vote in committee; this is the wrong time to vote on the floor," Conrad told reporters late yesterday afternoon."

So that is dead...

"here was also a time when Congress made them, but those days are long gone -- 1,086 days gone, to be precise. That's the last time Democrats, who have controlled one or both houses of Congress this whole time, passed a budget resolution through either the House or the Senate.

On April 15, 2010, both houses failed to meet the statutory deadline for passing a budget for the first time ever. Although the Senate Budget Committee would later pass a plan out of committee, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., blocked it from the floor, going so far as to prevent even a debate about the budget."

Why is this you ask....

"in fact, Democrats just wanted to focus on attacking the "Path to Prosperity" budget proposed by House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said, "To put other budgets out there is not the point."

GET READY....

"As Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner would later say, "We don't have a definitive solution ... We just don't like yours."

OR could it be this....

"It is no coincidence that the Democrats' failure to pass a budget began immediately after Obamacare became law. In order to hide its $1.7 trillion price tag and $500 billion in tax increases through 2022, Democrats had already exhausted every last budgeting gimmick"

Our leaders at work !

Examiner editorial: Why Democrats won't vote on a budget | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/2012/04/examiner-editorial-why-democrats-wont-vote-budget/504281)

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the basic plan and controls of any business....the basic plan and control of all our households....the basic plan and controls of almost any entity that has people who know, understand expenses can not exceed income.

Since that knowledge is completely absent in Washington they continue with business as usual spending money they do not have.

And yes the real issue they are trying to avoid is putting numbers on the Obama era give away programs. As has been said in the past by democrats in Washington, an election year is not a good time to do a budget because of all the embarassing questions that will come up....hence since Obama and congress are always in campaign mode, they will continue to be quite satisfied to let the government spend itself into oblivion. No budget, no accountability, no responsibility hallmarks of the Obama administration.

btk

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I have been reading about this lack of budget for three years now and cannot figure out how the media, etc just flat out ignore this situation.

How a senate gets away with this and a President says nothing about it just astounds me. Say what you want about the Ryan budget in congress but at least they followed and did their duty.

Why no backlash....cannot figure it out. Well over 1,000 days and we just dont get a budget since the beginning of this administration.

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I have been reading about this lack of budget for three years now and cannot figure out how the media, etc just flat out ignore this situation.

How a senate gets away with this and a President says nothing about it just astounds me. Say what you want about the Ryan budget in congress but at least they followed and did their duty.

Why no backlash....cannot figure it out. Well over 1,000 days and we just dont get a budget since the beginning of this administration.

There are a handful of folks on this political board. They care about what is going on and people on many other boards and blogs. The average American doesn't follow government. The Majority of Silence.

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Perhaps someone should be paying attention to this stuff...

" The 1974 Budget Act says that, as a matter of law, the Senate Budget Committee is to pass a resolution by April 1 and Congress as a whole to pass one by April 15. No matter. Kent Conrad is the Bartleby the Scrivener of budgeting: He prefers not to".

Why in the world would a Senate of the US not want a budget ?


"Fresh from his stalwart act of nonbudgeting, Sen. Conrad said it was too hard to pass a budget in an election year. But Senate Democrats hadn’t passed one in 2011 or 2010, either.

This year is a presidential election year, 2011 was an off-year, and 2010 was a midterm election year. That covers every kind of year there is in Washington. By this standard, the Senate will have an annual excuse not to pass a budget resolution for the rest of time."


"http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/boldly_doing_nothing_WivIgOCcKyQmZPkPv6s6yI

"This gambit, a running charade for years now, betrays the intellectual exhaustion of the last remaining Democratic majority on Capitol Hill — too scared and too cynical to undertake even a rudimentary gesture toward governing."

Ok...for those of you who like to get yuks on this stuff.....I am not sure what is so funny about all of this...I realize that I nor you will change anyones mind...I know it "just" a forum...you guys have told me that. Just continue to support this thing with total blind loyalty.....if he gets reelected it will be mucho worse and then you can come here an complain but there will be nothing you can do.