Too cheap or what?

[buggyone]

I was talking with a golfing buddy. He said he was out to dinner at Glenview Country Club with 2 other couples. Two of the members of the other couples took out single packets of Crystal Light Lemonade and stirred them up in their ice-water (and left the empty packets on the table). The server noticed and told them he was going to have to charge them 75 cents each. The two people got angry and asked for the manager. The manager relented but told them if they did it again, the 75 cent charge would take place. The two couples told the manager they would not ever return to Glenview again with that policy being in effect.

To me,it is mighty cheap of the restaurant goers to take their own lemonade. Even if it for diabetic reason, they could forgo the drink if sugar-free lemonade or another sugar-free drink is not available.

[Mudder]

I think it's pretty rude and bold to take your crystal light out in a restaurant to make your own lemonade. IMHO, the manager handled it quite well. I do recall a period of time when Glenview tried to charge for extra lemons, that didn't last to long. We love Glenview and with the exception of one or two of the hostesses we find everyone to be pleasant and accomadating.

[graciegirl]

Now that is a situation that I personally would hate to witness. Good manners are simply kind and respectful behavior. When you don't buy the drink and make your own, you kind of "cheat the restaurant". If you wanted to make your own, stay home and if you want low sugar, drink the water that they do provide..

We know someone who knows someone who asks for MORE rolls to go with his leftovers that he is taking home. One time he asked for more vegetables to go with his leftover roast. His wife asks for extra lemons and makes her own lemonade.

Makes us cringe to hear about it..

But I was just thinking...yesterday at Crispers Helene got a great big ice tea and I didn't buy anything...and I took several sips of her tea...That was cheating. I just never thought. Won't do it again.

[chuckinca]

How about asking for a cup or glass of hot water and using your own tea bag.

I like a certain tea and it usually isn't available at restaurants.

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[buggyone]

Gracie,

"We know someone who knows someone who asks for MORE rolls to go with his leftovers that he is taking home."
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I have been out to dinner with that guy! At Carabbas, this guy routinely asks them for an extra loaf of their bread with his leftovers and they actually bring it to him in a second bag so it does not get squashed. He rarely leaves a tip of more than 10% either.

I was out with the same couple at Red Lobster one time. His wife got the Coconut Shrimp with Pina Colada sauce - on the side in a ceramic ramekin. She asked for a box for a couple of the leftover shrimp and then put the ramekin in the box, too.

Maybe I need to go out to dinner with other people?

[buggyone]

How about asking for a cup or glass of hot water and using your own tea bag.

I like a certain tea and it usually isn't available at restaurants.

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No, that is not right. You could ask for the hot water and tell the waiter you will use your own special tea bag -- and offer to pay the rate of their hot tea. That would be the appropriate thing to do.

[braguy]

If they give you water, you can spit in it if you want to. This restaurant has found far too many ways to aggravate the people trying to be patrons . The lemonade thing is a mindless action by the customers and the restaurant staff for the sake of $1.50.
Last year they had their burger special on for xx$$, ONLY IF you took it with their toppings on it. Telling them that they could just make it a plain burger for me and would have to charge me the regular price. They said they couldn't do that because leaving the lettuce tomato off, would slow down their production line in the kitchen.......there were 5 people in the restaurant at the time!!! And two of their receptionists could use lesson in manners too. WON'T BE BACK,!

[JimPete]

Cheap, cheap, cheap. And then to make a fuss over 75 cents? I believe in saving money and being frugal but there are limits.

Jim

[Barefoot]

Gracie,

"We know someone who knows someone who asks for MORE rolls to go with his leftovers that he is taking home."
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I have been out to dinner with that guy! At Carabbas, this guy routinely asks them for an extra loaf of their bread with his leftovers and they actually bring it to him in a second bag so it does not get squashed. He rarely leaves a tip of more than 10% either.

I was out with the same couple at Red Lobster one time. His wife got the Coconut Shrimp with Pina Colada sauce - on the side in a ceramic ramekin. She asked for a box for a couple of the leftover shrimp and then put the ramekin in the box, too.

Maybe I need to go out to dinner with other people?

I would cringe with embarassment to be around people like that. It's just unbelievable.

[jnieman]

I think the restaurants should carry more sugar free drinks than just colas. I myself cannot drink caffeine or sugar and am forced to drink water at every meal. I have been known to squeeze my lemon in my water and add some splenda. I do not ask for extra lemons, I just use the lemon slice they give me with my water. If they charged me 75 cents I would not mind. I'm just tired of drinking water all the time. Sprite zero or Fresca which are both caffeine free and sugar free would be awesome. I've asked time and time again to no avail.

[pivo]

who are so rude and cheap read these comments--Maybe after
reading these comments they will think twice next time they are
out in public---

[starflyte1]

Years ago, we went to dinner with a couple who took minatures from the airplane to add to their water in resturants. They were cheap, down to the penny.

[Aloha]

It would be helpful if restaurants would offer drinks without caffeine or sugar.
Caffeine-Free Diet Coke, Diet 7-Up, Diet Rootbeer, Sprite Zero, and several other drinks are available. Only a few offer even ONE of the above. If everyone would request drinks without sugar and caffeine, maybe more would at least offer one option. I don't blame customers for wanting something else besides water with their meal.

[angiefox10]

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[ssmith]

Sorry, but I have to say that my reputation is far more important to me than saving $0.75! I am frugal and will use a coupon when I can but surely want to give a restaurant their due. Also want them to make a profit and do well there.

For sugar free drink....why not non sweet iced tea? Nope it does not have exactly caffeine in it...it has tannin. I am very sensitive to caffeine but can drink Iced tea and still sleep that night. You can always add pink or yellow packets to it. I am a fan of Stevia and will bring tha in my purse....but I have saved the restaurant money by not using their packets but still paying for the Iced Tea..right?

[rubicon]

Its a prank. I had some guy I worked with years ago tell a story about one of our bosses. This boss was truly very frugal. He takes one of his employees out for dinner following business and tells the employee he will order surf and turf for them both. When the employee returns the bass says OK what do you want the surf or the turf?

I didn't bite on that one and I'll not get hooked on this story either

[BostonCelt]

who are so rude and cheap read these comments--Maybe after
reading these comments they will think twice next time they are
out in public---

Maybe, but I doubt it. Everybody's different. Different level of generosity, different levels of cheap. Some people are clue free, some people don't even suspect anything, some people wouldn't pay a nickel to see The Last Supper with the original cast.....

[ariel]

Hmmm...I go to a restaurant, order a meal and leave a 20% or better tip and it is "cheap" to use a packet of something to flavor my water because I don't do well with caffeine and would like a flavored, sugarless drink?

[ssmith]

OOOps, sure hope you don't think my response was directed at you....it was a general response. Don't think we've met so Hi to you!!!! also so glad you leave a good tip...You see this subject has come up before and it is amazing how....careful some people are with every cent but others no big deal....just sayin.

[buggyone]

Interesting, I'm pretty sure no one has ever called me cheap when it comes to going out to eat. But I have in my life brought packets of green tea with me to put in my Jwater for a meal.

At regular restaurants that I frequent they have given me appetizers and desserts free and I will make up the price of the free item by adding it on to the tip that I would give them.

I have on occasion brought my own salad dressing or even my own sweetener because they didn't have what I liked but I wanted to eat st the restaurant.

I think if they are doing other things like stealing food to save money I would understand. But just because they brought something to supliment their meal??

If the water is free, what I add to it is my business.

We have friends who share a meal, just because that's all they can eat. They have run into restaurants that have charged them extra for it. Who's being cheap. Personally, I think it's the restaurant.

Well....

Let the flogging begin...,

Not a flogging by any means but a couple of comments:

1. Yes, by all means, tip on the value of free appetizer or dessert.

2. No, what you add to the water is not your business. By taking something free and adding Crystal Light or something to it makes it of value that the restaurant can charge money for. It is a cheap thing to do.

3. Splitting meals (with extra plates and silverware, I presume you mean) outside of The Villages is usually about a $5 extra charge. Extra plates, silverware, and glassware are extra things for the kitchen help to clean and for the server to bring. I imagine your friends do not eat off the same plate sharing the same fork and spoon.

4. Bringing your own salad dressing is strange but no problem as is sweetner. Restaurants do not charge for salad dressing or sweetner. They do charge for soft drinks or alcoholic drinks.

5. As for your green tea, why not tell the server you would like green tea? If they do not have it, tell the server you would like hot water and you will pay the going rate at that restaurant for hot tea?

[ariel]

No, not at all ssmith. Hi to you too! My comment was general as well. I don't post too often; love the site and have learned a lot, but as a "lurker" have noted over time a quickness by some who post here to lump people into groups and pass judgement. Just couldn't seem to keep myself from posting this time.

[angiefox10]

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[NotGolfer]

Have seen folks at Panera with their water glass (emphasis on water glass) go up and get soda from the machine. This to me is stealing....if they steal here, makes one wonder what they do with the rest of their life?

[Posh 08]

Buggy
If I break a window when golfing I'd contact the owner. When dining, I would never squabble over the 75 cents if I made my own beverage.

Since you will be looking for new golfing and dining partners I hope to be available soon. BTW, I need a stroke a hole.

[graciegirl]

No, not at all ssmith. Hi to you too! My comment was general as well. I don't post too often; love the site and have learned a lot, but as a "lurker" have noted over time a quickness by some who post here to lump people into groups and pass judgement. Just couldn't seem to keep myself from posting this time.

Hi there Ariel.

I don't think lumping or judging is goin' on here in THIS thread...so far. I think it is a matter of perception...and how we are raised and the difference of values in small things and they differ from person to person. I was taught not to pick my teeth in public...but I see people who ask for toothpicks and use them after meals in a public places all of the time. Ditto..I have seen people blow their noses on cloth napkins in restaurants. My mom would have skinned me for that.

Living here challenges many of the preconceptions we have had in our "past" lives;...people bring different ways to act to this very wonderful place.

We cringe on some things...because like Pavlov's dog, we are conditioned to think some things aren't nice or not.

We are all learning new things all of the time.

This forum is a good way to do it.

None of these things discussed on this thread are serious issues like cancer or harming anyone...

Hugs,

Gracie

[angiefox10]

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[Posh 08]

I wouldn't squabble over the .75 cents. I most likely wouldn't tip and I certainly wouldn't go back.

For many years I had a very nice expense account where I took clients out to dinner at very nice restaurants. I don't think a better restaurant would squabble over what you put in your water. I certainly wasn't embarrassed when one of them brought their own additive for their water. To be honest it did happen once. They werent paying for the meal do they certainly weren't being cheap.

You'll give me a stroke a hole? :MOJE_whot:

[redwitch]

I'm a Cokehead. I hate the taste of Pepsi and I rarely drink anything but Coca-Cola. I nearly always have Coke on me. If I go to a restaurant and they serve Pepsi, I explain I have my own drink but will happily pay a charge for a glass of ice or even the full price of the beverage, provided I can drink what I want. I've been doing this for years. Occasionally, it has been issue and have been told I have to drink what is on the menu. I thank the server or manager and leave.

When you turn a glass of water into something else such as lemonade or iced tea, yes, you are cheating the restaurant. You're getting a beverage free. I've seen people add lemon and sugar to a glass of water. They really don't see that they are taking something they shouldn't since the water, lemon and sweetener are all on the table to be used. But they're not drinking water, they're drinking lemonade (which the restaurant usually serves). Adding your own Crystal Light just takes it up another level. Be honest and advise the server you are adding to the water. Most of the time, it will be a non-issue or a minimal charge.

As to sharing a meal and not expecting to be charged extra -- no comment.

[Posh 08]

The cost of lemons at times are really high, plus the labor. Most times I think the wait staff are the ones to prep lemons as side work. Personally I never ever want a lemon or lime in my beverage. I just don't like the way some of those things are handled and stored for service.

[Francie]

Why do you think prices go up and up and up? It is to offset the selfishness of people who cheat restaurants out of revenue generating products that help them make a profit. Without a profit, businesses fail period. If you can't afford to buy a drink at a restaurant with your meal, go to a less expensive restaurant where you can or stay home. It is inconsiderate and rude to bring your own items to a restaurant that otherwise would be sold by the establishment and it is rediculous to ask for extra food beyond what was provided by the restaurant to take home. Unbelievable.

[zcaveman]

:popcorn:

[ariel]

Hi there Ariel.

I don't think lumping or judging is goin' on here in THIS thread...so far. I think it is a matter of perception...and how we are raised and the difference of values in small things and they differ from person to person. I was taught not to pick my teeth in public...but I see people who ask for toothpicks and use them after meals in a public places all of the time. Ditto..I have seen people blow their noses on cloth napkins in restaurants. My mom would have skinned me for that.

Living here challenges many of the preconceptions we have had in our "past" lives;...people bring different ways to act to this very wonderful place.

We cringe on some things...because like Pavlov's dog, we are conditioned to think some things aren't nice or not.

We are all learning new things all of the time.

This forum is a good way to do it.

None of these things discussed on this thread are serious issues like cancer or harming anyone...

Hugs,

Gracie
I agree with most you say, and I certainly didn't mean to give the impression that I believe anything said on this thread would in any way equate to cancer or intentional harm We are each a product of our past experiences. My husband and I never withhold a tip for a waiter or waitress even if the service is poor - we don't know what someone may be dealing with in their life. And I agree this forum is a wonderful place to learn and to grow - as is The Villages. We have lived and worked in many places and love the diversity in TV, but also recognize within that diversity will be some who find it easy to include judgements with their opinions. Not complaining and also not saying that I am innocent of doing that also. I have learned much from you. Thanks.

[graciegirl]

I agree with most you say, and I certainly didn't mean to give the impression that I believe anything said on this thread would in any way equate to cancer or intentional harm We are each a product of our past experiences. My husband and I never withhold a tip for a waiter or waitress even if the service is poor - we don't know what someone may be dealing with in their life. And I agree this forum is a wonderful place to learn and to grow - as is The Villages. We have lived and worked in many places and love the diversity in TV, but also recognize within that diversity will be some who find it easy to include judgements with their opinions. Not complaining and also not saying that I am innocent of doing that also. I have learned much from you. Thanks.

You must be right. I need to reevaluate my thinking. Someone who is very dear to me just told me she is tired of the judging. I really didn't mean it to be hurtful. I am sorry to you and I need to rethink my attitude.

In the scheme of things...this issue is a non issue.

[zcaveman]

Please do not turn this thread into a tipping thing. There are too many of them already. This thread is because someone decided to get water and use their own flavoring to make a drink.

This is the question. Is it right of wrong.

I thing it is wrong. Either drink water or order something from the menu.

I always go with two unsweetened ice teas.

Z

[angiefox10]

Sorry. I thought this was about being cheap. I must have not read the title correctly.

[ajbrown]

I will take another tack here. I have no idea why I am posting, I cannot help myself, this :censored: TOTV is just addicting..... and I am aggravated that this gigantic mass of rain all over FL has barely hung around Mallory.

I do not want to judge these folks. I personally would draw the line past a simple additive like 'lemony flavor' to water. You add Jack Daniels to the water served and we will have an issue, but a drop of some water flavor? You take my water glass and fill it with my Pepsi as another poster said, we will have an issue.

As a restaurant owner or manager I WOULD NOT make a water additive the place I draw my line. I do not need the $0.75, I need their food bill, I need them to return with others who do not bring sweetener and will buy my JD or beer.

Disclaimer. I have never owned a restaurant and I have never brought an additive to a restaurant for any drink.

[Shimpy]

My grandfather owned a restaurant in which my mother and her brothers and sisters worked in back in the 30's near Pittsburgh. My mother told me of the bums that would come in during the night and order hot water and use the catchup to make tomato soup.

[ilovetv]

Let's see. If beer is what I like to drink at a bar/restaurant, and I can't drink alcohol and drink only non-alcohol beer....but the bar/restaurant has no N/A beer......

...then some think it's acceptable to bring a can of your own N/A beer in your jacket pocket or purse, and bring it out and drink it at no charge?

Or what if I eat fish but not meat or chicken, and the restaurant has no fish on the menu. Can I bring a slab of fish wrapped in plastic in my purse, and ask the server to have the fish "just thrown up there under the broiler for a few minutes" and have that at no charge?

I think the problem with the original post's scenario is: where does the restaurant draw the line? The super-cheap ones will not stop at the drinks made with free water. Some will eat most of their entree and then tell the server some lie about something wrong with it so they can get a new order of that, and then they take it home for tomorrow's lunch or dinner. It's stealing.

[janmcn]

This thread just points out why there are very few upscale restaurants and no top-drawer shopping in The Villages. The older we get, the cheaper we become.

[Posh 08]

This thread just points out why there are very few upscale restaurants and no top-drawer shopping in The Villages. The older we get, the cheaper we become.

Maybe our incomes are less. There is a word for that but I can't remember what it is.

[ilovetv]

I don't think everyone here has gotten "cheap" or "cheaper" in the extreme like the original post and others here.

I do think most of us want the affordable restaurants we have because we go out so often with various neighbors and friends we meet all around TV, and we don't cook much anymore.

[Pturner]

I love green tea and many restaurants don't serve it. If I really want it and they don't have it, I order and pay for hot tea. They either bring a cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side, or they bring a small kettle of hot water, an empty cup and a tea bag on the side. I pay for the tea and quietly use my own green tea bag.

No way would I ask for a free cup of hot water. Personally, I'd rather forgo the green tea than to use my own at a restaurant and not pay. To me, it seems wrong. You use the restaurant's cup and saucer and maybe kettle, all of which must be served, removed from the table, washed and put away. The water had to be heated. It is not "no cost" to the restaurant. Why should it be no cost to me?

Yes, I know. Restaurants serve ice water and don't charge. Well, that is their policy. It is built in to their profit margin. BYOB is not.

[angiefox10]

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[Posh 08]

Just curious of why you would bump this thread when the last post was only 6 minutes prior? Are you trying to catch Gracie's posting record?

Dang, cheap shot.

[gerryann]

What the heck is up with people here??? Why so nasty?? I used to enjoy reading the posts on here. What's putting so many people in bad moods? Life is too short for all this nonsence. I go on here looking for information on topics that will confirm that I am making the right desision to move here, and lately I am beginning to wonder.

[angiefox10]

What the heck is up with people here??? Why so nasty?? I used to enjoy reading the posts on here. What's putting so many people in bad moods? Life is too short for all this nonsence. I go on here looking for information on topics that will confirm that I am making the right desision to move here, and lately I am beginning to wonder.

Please come down here. The people here are wonderful. This is the right decision. It really is. Most of the people on totv don't live here.

[Posh 08]

What the heck is up with people here??? Why so nasty?? I used to enjoy reading the posts on here. What's putting so many people in bad moods? Life is too short for all this nonsence. I go on here looking for information on topics that will confirm that I am making the right desision to move here, and lately I am beginning to wonder.

The real TV folks are out playing and having fun. Don't worry about a few hundred folks that hang on a computer all day.

[gerryann]

I hope I will meet good people. I am really scared. Reading the posts about the dogs and rude drivers, really has me questioning my decisions. Another post that really upset me was when someone said that so many folks make up stories about their past and that folks aren't real. Why would people want to start a new life based on lies? Maybe I ahould just stay off of here for awhile.

[Posh 08]

I hope I will meet good people. I am really scared. Reading the posts about the dogs and rude drivers, really has me questioning my decisions. Another post that really upset me was when someone said that so many folks make up stories about their past and that folks aren't real. Why would people want to start a new life based on lies? Maybe I ahould just stay off of here for awhile.

Howdy Boy, whoops got that backwards. Jeez Louise in my neck of the woods.

[ilovetv]

I hope I will meet good people. I am really scared. Reading the posts about the dogs and rude drivers, really has me questioning my decisions. Another post that really upset me was when someone said that so many folks make up stories about their past and that folks aren't real. Why would people want to start a new life based on lies? Maybe I ahould just stay off of here for awhile.

When people complain about "the small stuff" that's not cancer, stroke recovery, diabetes nor death of one's son/daughter in Afghanistan, it means they don't have a whole lot to complain about.

In and around TV, it's not a bunch of complaining, entitled geezers like complaint threads here often appear. Plus as someone said above, most people don't sit for hours on a computer. They're out living their lives happily.

[Pturner]

What the heck is up with people here??? Why so nasty?? I used to enjoy reading the posts on here. What's putting so many people in bad moods? Life is too short for all this nonsence. I go on here looking for information on topics that will confirm that I am making the right desision to move here, and lately I am beginning to wonder.

Hi Gerryann,
The posts on this thread didn't strike me the same way. To the OP, the practice of ordering free water at a restaurant and turning it into lemonade rather than ordering lemonade or another paid beverage seemed cheap. Some of us agreed and some did not. In light of your taking such offense, I went back and reread the posts, including my own, in which I offered my rationale for my opinion on the subject.

I love green tea and many restaurants don't serve it. If I really want it and they don't have it, I order and pay for hot tea. They either bring a cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side, or they bring a small kettle of hot water, an empty cup and a tea bag on the side. I pay for the tea and quietly use my own green tea bag.

No way would I ask for a free cup of hot water. Personally, I'd rather forgo the green tea than to use my own at a restaurant and not pay. To me, it seems wrong. You use the restaurant's cup and saucer and maybe kettle, all of which must be served, removed from the table, washed and put away. The water had to be heated. It is not "no cost" to the restaurant. Why should it be no cost to me?

Yes, I know. Restaurants serve ice water and don't charge. Well, that is their policy. It is built in to their profit margin. BYOB is not.

I do see your point. Other people who see the issue differently explained that they weren't trying to be cheap, but wanted something that wasn't on the menu and disagreed that they should have to pay for bringing their own in that case. Honest disagreement. My post sounds hauty. Mea culpa.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Just curious of why you would bump this thread when the last post was only 6 minutes prior? Are you trying to catch Gracie's posting record?

Joe, I think she's simply chosen to delete her post. That's about the only way you can do it - no function to simply wipe a post from a thread totally.

Bill :)

[Barefoot]

The people here are wonderful. This is the right decision. It really is. Most of the people on totv don't live here.

Gerryann, fear not! I promise you, the residents in The Villages are wonderful, and this is a very dog-friendly community.

[cappyjon431]

I wanted to stay out of this one, but since my wife and I were discussing a similar issue a few days ago I just can't hold back. We've only been here six months, but in that short amount of time we have seen more people get water glasses and use them to get soft drinks at Sweet Tomatoes, Crispers and various other restaurants around TV than we have ever seen at any other restaurants in our entire lives. Personally (and this is just my opinion), I feel this is the epitome of cheapness. I also think it is stealing. It is a form of lying. If you order water, get water. If you want soft drinks, pay for them! People can rationalize this all they want, but to me, it is inexcusable behavior. Sorry if I come across as judgemental, but stealing is stealing and lying is lying.

I realize this is not the exact same scenerio presented by the OP, but it certainly has a lot to do with the relative cheapness/dishonesty of some TV residents.

I also realize that in the overall scope of things, this is not a big deal--compared with poverty, wars, incurable illnesses, the state of the world economy, etc., this is a rather trivial matter. On the other hand, I think this type of behavior is representitive of the decline in morals of our society. Not only is it unacceptable to steal and lie, it is equally bad to excuse such poor behavior.

Stepping down from my soapbox now.

[bigalibaba]

How about asking for a cup or glass of hot water and using your own tea bag.

I like a certain tea and it usually isn't available at restaurants.

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Tacky!

[tainsley]

If they give you water, you can spit in it if you want to. This restaurant has found far too many ways to aggravate the people trying to be patrons . The lemonade thing is a mindless action by the customers and the restaurant staff for the sake of $1.50.
Last year they had their burger special on for xx$$, ONLY IF you took it with their toppings on it. Telling them that they could just make it a plain burger for me and would have to charge me the regular price. They said they couldn't do that because leaving the lettuce tomato off, would slow down their production line in the kitchen.......there were 5 people in the restaurant at the time!!! And two of their receptionists could use lesson in manners too. WON'T BE BACK,!

I just had lunch at Glenview on Friday with
our ladies group. There was a glitch on the reservation (The restaurant's fault) but in the end they were able to accommodate us. However, the hostess was not the mostest! She was very rude! I won't be going back! There are too many other restaurants here too enjoy!

[charlie49]

Originally Posted by chuckinca
'How about asking for a cup or glass of hot water and using your own tea bag.

I like a certain tea and it usually isn't available at restaurants.'

If you like a certain type of ham not on the menu, would you also bring your own ham sandwich?

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[JoeC1947]

Joe, I think she's simply chosen to delete her post. That's about the only way you can do it - no function to simply wipe a post from a thread totally.

Bill :)

Thanks Bill. I learn something new every day!

[JoeC1947]

What the heck is up with people here??? Why so nasty?? I used to enjoy reading the posts on here. What's putting so many people in bad moods? Life is too short for all this nonsence. I go on here looking for information on topics that will confirm that I am making the right desision to move here, and lately I am beginning to wonder.

Mostly, if you ask an honest question you'll get an honest answer. This is a great informational site just stay away from the controversial threads if you have a weak stomach!

[treetop]

I just had lunch at Glenview on Friday with
our ladies group. There was a glitch on the reservation (The restaurant's fault) but in the end they were able to accommodate us. However, the hostess was not the mostest! She was very rude! I won't be going back! There are too many other restaurants here too enjoy!

Glenview doesn't take reservations...
When I tried to make one for a group of 12 last week, I was told, "if you get here before noon we should be able to accomodate, but we make no commitments. All tables are 'first come, first serve'".
We decided to take our chances, and were accomodated(small wait for table set-up). Food and service were excellent...

[swimdawg]

Mostly, if you ask an honest question you'll get an honest answer. This is a great informational site just stay away from the controversial threads if you have a weak stomach!

This is good advice from JoeC, gerryann.

I remember way back "in the olden days"- less than a couple years ago...when I was just lurking on TOTV...that I was frightened by some of the posts on this forum. I took everyone's advice as true.

But then I realized that there are those who like to "stir up the pot"....and cause controversy.

And there are people on this forum who are not real people. Who knows what kind of a person "swimdawg" is, for heaven's sake? (Well....now some know because they have met me....and I am the real deal.) However, it's scary sometimes...reading some of these posts.....people who give advice....not "the real deal".

So don't be frightened....like I was...by some of the wacky posts....few as they are.

Just like everything in our lives, there's the good, the bad and the ugly. Lucky for all of us, the good far outweighs the others by far. Hang in there....enjoy....and realize that a good sense of humor helps as well.

Now I'm going to tell you the good, the bad...and the ugly. I'll start with the bad: it's cold here in Western New York; The good: I am arriving in TV on Thursday; And the UGLY - we are expecting SNOW here tonight! Horrors!!!

[2newyorkers]

Do you think it is OK to bring your own candy/snack to the movie theater? And if so, do you think this is different than bringing your own drink to a restaurant?

[JoeC1947]

Do you think it is OK to bring your own candy/snack to the movie theater? And if so, do you think this is different than bringing your own drink to a restaurant?

That's food for thought.:icon_hungry:

[gerryann]

Thanks to those with the comforting posts. I will look for the positive and try to ignore the negative. Look forward to meeting you all in the near future.

[angiefox10]

I need a new set of silverware. Can anyone tell me what country club has the nicest set? I figure a few cheap lunches bringing my own drink mix and I can get a fulll set!!!

Next..... I'm going for plates!!'

[Posh 08]

I need a new set of silverware. Can anyone tell me what country club has the nicest set? I figure a few cheap lunches bringing my own drink mix and I can get a fulll set!!!

Next..... I'm going for plates!!'

:1rotfl:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

I need a new set of silverware. Can anyone tell me what country club has the nicest set? I figure a few cheap lunches bringing my own drink mix and I can get a fulll set!!!

Next..... I'm going for plates!!'

Kinda tough to do, but you might also try to snag a nice tablecloth or two on your way out while you're at it. Should be able to get out the door by making a wrap around skirt out of it or something..................:thumbup:

I'll keep an eye out for you on the police blotter. :wave:

Bill :)

[Barefoot]

[QUOTE=cappyjon431;482457]I wanted to stay out of this one, but since my wife and I were discussing a similar issue a few days ago I just can't hold back. We've only been here six months, but in that short amount of time we have seen more people get water glasses and use them to get soft drinks at Sweet Tomatoes, Crispers and various other restaurants around TV than we have ever seen at any other restaurants in our entire lives. Personally (and this is just my opinion), I feel this is the epitome of cheapness. I also think it is stealing. It is a form of lying. [QUOTE]

I find this post very interesting. I often have lunch at Crispers. When you order AND PAY for a soft drink, they give you a water glass. You're expected to go to the soft drink machine and fill your glass with a soft drink.

Could it be that you're misunderstanding the situation? :confused:

[OpusX1]

Also please know that the water is located in the soda machines, the water button is near the ice and under one of the soda buttons so it looks like your getting soda but it is water.

[cappyjon431]

[QUOTE=cappyjon431;482457]I wanted to stay out of this one, but since my wife and I were discussing a similar issue a few days ago I just can't hold back. We've only been here six months, but in that short amount of time we have seen more people get water glasses and use them to get soft drinks at Sweet Tomatoes, Crispers and various other restaurants around TV than we have ever seen at any other restaurants in our entire lives. Personally (and this is just my opinion), I feel this is the epitome of cheapness. I also think it is stealing. It is a form of lying. [QUOTE]

I find this post very interesting. I often have lunch at Crispers. When you order AND PAY for a soft drink, they give you a water glass. You're expected to go to the soft drink machine and fill your glass with a soft drink.

Could it be that you're misunderstanding the situation? :confused:

I don't think so. When we are in line and people in front of us say they "only want water to drink" and then end up getting soft drinks or tea the customer is lying. we've seen it no less than three or four times at Crispers. I was not aware that Crispers uses the same glass for water as they do for soft drinks and tea (as we always order tea), but I do know that at Sweet Tomatoes, Five Guys and several other restaurants in the area use different glasses to discourage this type of thing--although it doesn't appear to work.

Another similar situation can be found at Sweet Tomatoes. There is a section at the end of the salad bar that has "special toppings" (I don't remember what they are except I know they include shredded chicken). There is a sign that indicates that if you take from this section there is an additional charge of $2.59. Almost everytime we go to Sweet Tomatoes we see people load up on these special toppings but when they get to the cashier and are asked if they got any special toppings they invariably reply "no." Now I am willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and I am sure some people are not aware that there is an additional price. But I've also seen many read the sign, point it out to their spouse, but still deny taking the toppings to the cashier.

[Ragman]

Used to eat breakfast at a Shoneys that had a good breakfast bar.

A certain church group came to town every year and the manager told me he had a hard time with the women wrapping meats in napkins and putting it in their purses.

He solved the problem by charging an extra breakfast for the table and when they complained he said it was for the 'take out' meal in their purses.
If they denied it he would offer the meals free if they would open the purses.

After a day or to the freeloading pretty much stopped.

:mmmm:

[cappyjon431]

Also please know that the water is located in the soda machines, the water button is near the ice and under one of the soda buttons so it looks like your getting soda but it is water.

Water is not dark brown. And tea is in a different area. It seems too many are willing to make excuses for bad behavior. I've seen it WAY to many times to continually make excuses for these people. They are lying. They are stealing. They are cheapskates. Either you are doubting my word (which is your right, although you would be incorrect not having witnessed what my wife I have witnessed time and time again) or you are making excuses for this type of behavior.

[Posh 08]

Water is not dark brown. And tea is in a different area. It seems too many are willing to make excuses for bad behavior. I've seen it WAY to many times to continually make excuses for these people. They are lying. They are stealing. They are cheapskates. Either you are doubting my word (which is your right, although you would be incorrect not having witnessed what my wife I have witnessed time and time again) or you are making excuses for this type of behavior.

I believe you. There are lots of tight wads in this world. Do they realize their larcenies? Who knows.

[cappyjon431]

I believe you. There are lots of tight wads in this world. Do they realize their larcenies? Who knows.

It is my nature to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when you see it again and again, it gets increasingly more difficult to do.

The Sweet Tomatoes incidents I mentioned above are the perfect example. When I first saw people taking from the special toppings section and then deny taking from special toppings, I made excuses for them too. I thought Sweet Tomatoes was just making a poor business decision because it was too easy for someone to unwittingly take the special toppings and not know there was an additional charge. But when I see folks actually reading the sign, taking the toppings, and then denying it, I can no longer make excuses for them.

[jnieman]

Someone that I will not name goes to McDonalds and takes a huge pile of napkins with their 99 cent hamburger and takes them home. This person also loads up on splenda and equal and takes that home as well. While were at it, how about bringing back a used cup to McDonalds for a free refill. Mind you this is a cup that the person bought coffee in a week ago. I've seen this done at McD's and at Panera.

The list goes on an on.....

[cappyjon431]

Someone that I will not name goes to McDonalds and takes a huge pile of napkins with their 99 cent hamburger and takes them home. This person also loads up on splenda and equal and takes that home as well. While were at it, how about bringing back a used cup to McDonalds for a free refill. Mind you this is a cup that the person bought coffee in a week ago. I've seen this done at McD's and at Panera.

The list goes on an on.....

I have not seen it frequently, but I have seen these behaviors as well. Also saw someone take the salt and pepper shakers from Bamboo Bistro.

[Posh 08]

I have not seen it frequently, but I have seen these behaviors as well. Also saw someone take the salt and pepper shakers from Bamboo Bistro.

Did you report the crime? Petit Larceny x 3 = Felony Larceny. As they say, it all adds up.

[cappyjon431]

Did you report the crime? Petit Larceny x 3 = Felony Larceny. As they say, it all adds up.

I didn't, but I saw the busboy report it to the hostess. I left wondering if: 1. The customers paid with a credit card; and 2. Whether they tried to report it to the police using the cc info?

[Golfer in Sanibel]

You are going to find all kinds of people here. We used to have a neighbor who would drive a 20 mile round trip to save 20 cents. Go figure.:shocked:

[Villages PL]

Two of the members of the other couples took out single packets of Crystal Light Lemonade and stirred them up in their ice-water (and left the empty packets on the table).

That'll teach them to leave empty packets on the table. If you're going to do something like that, be discrete about it.

The server noticed and told them he was going to have to charge them 75 cents each.

How petty. I think the server should have minded his own business of waiting on tables.


The two people got angry and asked for the manager.

Ha! That's really funny! Come on! They should have just paid the 75 cents (each) and then subtract it from the tip.

The couple wasn't being cheap, in my opinion. If they were cheap, they wouldn't be eating at that restaurant in the first place. Would they?

Those people didn't take anything from the restaurant. What they did was order a meal and pay for it. The restaurant owner should have known better than to make an issue out of it. It would only become a lose/lose situation. Did anyone win as a result of that unpleasant exchange? No!

:)

[ilovetv]

It is my nature to give people the benefit of the doubt, but when you see it again and again, it gets increasingly more difficult to do.

The Sweet Tomatoes incidents I mentioned above are the perfect example. When I first saw people taking from the special toppings section and then deny taking from special toppings, I made excuses for them too. I thought Sweet Tomatoes was just making a poor business decision because it was too easy for someone to unwittingly take the special toppings and not know there was an additional charge. But when I see folks actually reading the sign, taking the toppings, and then denying it, I can no longer make excuses for them.

This is probably why Sweet Tomatoes has raised its price at least $3-4 per person in the short time it's been open here.

[bluedog103]

Water is not dark brown. And tea is in a different area. It seems too many are willing to make excuses for bad behavior. I've seen it WAY to many times to continually make excuses for these people. They are lying. They are stealing. They are cheapskates. Either you are doubting my word (which is your right, although you would be incorrect not having witnessed what my wife I have witnessed time and time again) or you are making excuses for this type of behavior.
Cappy you're very observant. I don't think I've ever paid that much attention to what other diners are doing.

[cappyjon431]

Cappy you're very observant. I don't think I've ever paid that much attention to what other diners are doing.

It's really not rocket science...they are in line in front of me, so I usually end up watching them go back and forth deciding...then they pay...then I pay...then they go to the soda fountain...then I go to the soda fountain...then I watch them make their major drink decisions while I await my turn to get a drink.

Do you mean to tell me you have never seen this at a restaurant? If not, check it out-- sometimes it is quite entertaining.

[bluedog103]

I've honestly never noticed this. Guess I've never been interested in the person in front of me unless they stand there counting their teeth, hemming and hawing about what to order, holding everyone up. Guess I'll have to pay more attention in the future. It might be amusing.

[hedoman]

I was talking with a golfing buddy. He said he was out to dinner at Glenview Country Club with 2 other couples. Two of the members of the other couples took out single packets of Crystal Light Lemonade and stirred them up in their ice-water (and left the empty packets on the table). The server noticed and told them he was going to have to charge them 75 cents each. The two people got angry and asked for the manager. The manager relented but told them if they did it again, the 75 cent charge would take place. The two couples told the manager they would not ever return to Glenview again with that policy being in effect.

To me,it is mighty cheap of the restaurant goers to take their own lemonade. Even if it for diabetic reason, they could forgo the drink if sugar-free lemonade or another sugar-free drink is not available.

I am amazed that there are not more stories like this in TV. Up north seniors were notorious for "rifeling" the sweet n low and sugar packets emptying the container into their purse. Coming in and ordering the cheapest special and splitting it while hanging onto the table for hours. A friend of mine owned a restaraunt and would remove all but 2 sugar packets when the seniors showed up for "early birds" and charged a "sharing" fee. I would be soooooo embarased if my table partners did something like what has been stated here.....

Wnat to eat on the cheap? The food kitchen in Wildwoood ios the place to go.......