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Guest
04-25-2012, 09:56 AM
Rick Santorum stated yesterday that he supports Mitt Romney and will be meeting with Romney aides soon.
Just a very short time ago, during the Wisconsin primary, Santorum called Romney the worst Republican to run against Pres. Obama. Now, he fully supports Romney. Talk about flip-flopping or weasel-wording.
Well, it will be interesting to see what develops from the meeting with Romney aides. In the attached link, Romney aides called Santorum "unhinged". Now, they are going to make nice?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/rick-santorum-mitt-romney-worst-republican_n_1378713.html
Guest
04-25-2012, 11:08 AM
Rick Santorum stated yesterday that he supports Mitt Romney and will be meeting with Romney aides soon.
Just a very short time ago, during the Wisconsin primary, Santorum called Romney the worst Republican to run against Pres. Obama. Now, he fully supports Romney. Talk about flip-flopping or weasel-wording.
Well, it will be interesting to see what develops from the meeting with Romney aides. In the attached link, Romney aides called Santorum "unhinged". Now, they are going to make nice?
Rick Santorum: Mitt Romney 'Worst Republican' To Face Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/rick-santorum-mitt-romney-worst-republican_n_1378713.html)
This sounds like a familar scenario. You would probably find this same result in both parties in each national election from 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, and now 2012.
Mitt Romney looks like the best Republican to run when viewed with respect to his probable backing of various moderate policies on issues like the environment, abortion, taxation, etc. If elected, I bet he will doing further evolving of his various views just like President Obama has done since 2008.
Guest
04-25-2012, 11:28 AM
Rick Santorum stated yesterday that he supports Mitt Romney and will be meeting with Romney aides soon.
Just a very short time ago, during the Wisconsin primary, Santorum called Romney the worst Republican to run against Pres. Obama. Now, he fully supports Romney. Talk about flip-flopping or weasel-wording.
Well, it will be interesting to see what develops from the meeting with Romney aides. In the attached link, Romney aides called Santorum "unhinged". Now, they are going to make nice?
Rick Santorum: Mitt Romney 'Worst Republican' To Face Obama (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/rick-santorum-mitt-romney-worst-republican_n_1378713.html)
those comments were in the fight for the primary elections; the next round is for all of the marbles; they could merge support based on 'anybody but obama' and not have to flip flop.
Guest
04-25-2012, 11:59 AM
Somebody should start a thread on where Romney stands on the issues, but then they'd have to update it every ten minutes.
Guest
04-25-2012, 12:16 PM
So Democrats never flip-flop and support their adversary after losing??
I kind of remember Hillary wasn't too keen on Obama in 2008................
In fact, she said only she and McCain (remember that?) were ready to lead this country.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502443_162-3896372-502443.html
Hillary Clinton Mocks Barack Obama During Campaign Rally (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html)
Daily Kos: In desperation Hillary Clinton Goes Negative against Obama (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/01/466859/-In-desperation-Hillary-Clinton-Goes-Negative-against-Obama-)
Hillary Clinton crossed the line with slash and burn, says Gary Hart and Keith Oberman (http://www.innocentenglish.com/politics/hillary-clinton-crossed-the-line-with-slash-and-burn-says-gary-hart-and-keith-oberman.html)
Guest
04-25-2012, 12:22 PM
updating often sure beats the beep out of having nothing to update as we have witnessed the past 3+ years!!
btk
Guest
04-25-2012, 12:52 PM
So Democrats never flip-flop and support their adversary after losing??
I kind of remember Hillary wasn't too keen on Obama in 2008................
In fact, she said only she and McCain (remember that?) were ready to lead this country.
Clinton Says She and McCain Offer Experience, Obama Offers Speeches - From The Road - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502443_162-3896372-502443.html)
Hillary Clinton Mocks Barack Obama During Campaign Rally (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/24/hillary-clinton-mocks-bar_n_88194.html)
Daily Kos: In desperation Hillary Clinton Goes Negative against Obama (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/01/466859/-In-desperation-Hillary-Clinton-Goes-Negative-against-Obama-)
Hillary Clinton crossed the line with slash and burn, says Gary Hart and Keith Oberman (http://www.innocentenglish.com/politics/hillary-clinton-crossed-the-line-with-slash-and-burn-says-gary-hart-and-keith-oberman.html)
Well, Richie's post looks like the "typical diversion" he accuses me of doing.
If you have to go to Keith Oberman, Richie, for your quotes, you must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. And Gary Hart? I honestly did not know he was still a political voice since his debacle upon his boat - "Monkey Business"?
Anyhow, Hillary got to be Sec. of State. If Romney wins - and there is that as a fair to mid'lin possibility - do you think Santorum will get some post like that if he supports Romney?
Guest
04-25-2012, 01:05 PM
What many of you are calling flip flopping others recognize it to be reconciliation. History is replete with parties, entities or individuals having devergent views only to come together for the better good. Unity is how a great people harness what they have to accomplish their purpose goal mission. They have the maturity and foresight subordinate themselves for the better good
Santorum would have been very wrong and actually viewed as a poor loser had he not reconciled.
Guest
04-25-2012, 01:06 PM
Let's see. This seems to be a good summary of how these things go, especially at the 2:00 mark....:
Bill Clinton on Obama: Big Fairy Tale - YouTube
Guest
04-25-2012, 01:15 PM
What many of you are calling flip flopping others recognize it to be reconciliation. History is replete with parties, entities or individuals having devergent views only to come together for the better good. Unity is how a great people harness what they have to accomplish their purpose goal mission. They have the maturity and foresight subordinate themselves for the better good
Santorum would have been very wrong and actually viewed as a poor loser had he not reconciled.
I totally know what you mean, Rubicon.
I would think Santorum should apologize publically and personally to Mitt for calling him the worst Republican choice for running against Pres. Obama. Not any other words but to say he is terribly sorry for saying that and have it be a face-to-face followed by a hearty handshake. That would show true unity to accomplish their mission.
Guest
04-25-2012, 01:49 PM
I totally know what you mean, Rubicon.
I would think Santorum should apologize publically and personally to Mitt for calling him the worst Republican choice for running against Pres. Obama. Not any other words but to say he is terribly sorry for saying that and have it be a face-to-face followed by a hearty handshake. That would show true unity to accomplish their mission.
Hi buggyone: Personally I would rather see Santorum apologize by his actions rather than words. He left his emotions unchecked. However, perhaps in part because of the concerns for his disabled child.
Emotional outbursts are becoming a pet peave of mine because they are too common and celebrated too readily not only on all the reality shows but poor manners are leaking on to the news networks, etc. We need more Bill Buckley type of discussions but I am afraid people have forgotten how to. OK I'll get of my soap box
Guest
04-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Economic growth may be stagnating,...
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Guest
04-25-2012, 02:57 PM
Economic growth may be stagnating,... (remainder of quoted post deleted to match edits made on original post by Moderator).
This is a major violation of copyright law.....it was lifted from ABC news at this link with no attribution...AND a major violation of the rules and regulations of this board.
You cannot cut and paste and make it appear as to be your own thoughts...that is against the law.
This is the link from where you took it !!!
The Yahoo News election outlook: 100 electoral votes will decide contest - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/yahoo-news-election-outlook-100-electoral-votes-decide/story?id=16209863#.T5hWccXVFCo)
Guest
04-25-2012, 03:33 PM
Well, I imagine the televisions in those states will be saturated with political ads until November. It would be a good time to be selling ad space to political campaigns, wouldn't it? Some people are going to be getting lots and lots of money.
Unfortunately, we are part of that group that has to listen to the blather from both sides.
Guest
04-25-2012, 03:38 PM
What many of you are calling flip flopping others recognize it to be reconciliation. History is replete with parties, entities or individuals having devergent views only to come together for the better good. Unity is how a great people harness what they have to accomplish their purpose goal mission. They have the maturity and foresight subordinate themselves for the better good
Santorum would have been very wrong and actually viewed as a poor loser had he not reconciled.
here, here! well written! could not agree more!
Guest
04-25-2012, 03:43 PM
Economic growth may be stagnating.... (remainder of quoted post deleted to match Moderator edits on original post)
well, i guess there is still time for some flip flopping and/or reconciliation within the electoral college.
p.s. - shame shame on you if you should have quoted the article from which you lifted your post.
Guest
04-25-2012, 04:28 PM
Well, Richie's post looks like the "typical diversion" he accuses me of doing.
If you have to go to Keith Oberman, Richie, for your quotes, you must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. And Gary Hart? I honestly did not know he was still a political voice since his debacle upon his boat - "Monkey Business"?
Anyhow, Hillary got to be Sec. of State. If Romney wins - and there is that as a fair to mid'lin possibility - do you think Santorum will get some post like that if he supports Romney?
How is this a diversion? It right on the topic.
Guest
04-25-2012, 05:21 PM
Santorum has no need to apologize. (When did you ever think you'd see ME defending him?)
Santorum was quoted WAY out of context. What he actually said was that Mitt was the worst Republican candidate *on the subject of health care* (because of his Massachusetts Romneycare law).
Santorum actually got agitated when news reporters pressed him on it and challenged them to actually go and LISTEN to what he said.
Guest
04-25-2012, 07:42 PM
At this point I will vote for any rep. just to see obama out.
Guest
04-25-2012, 07:54 PM
Nice one DJ.
I guess that should end this thread, as it's debunked.
Or........we can go off in a tangent.
Guest
04-30-2012, 06:28 AM
My pleasure. I like to be fair. As much as I disagreed with Santorum's policies, I would much rather debate what he SAID rather than build a straw man up out of an out-of-context fragment.
Besides, I have to admit, I really *did* like seeing a candidate get hot under the collar and act LIKE A HUMAN BEING when he got so agitated at the CLEAR efforts to protray him as saying something he didn't. It was refreshing to see some real emotion.
Guest
04-30-2012, 09:17 AM
My pleasure. I like to be fair. As much as I disagreed with Santorum's policies, I would much rather debate what he SAID rather than build a straw man up out of an out-of-context fragment.
Besides, I have to admit, I really *did* like seeing a candidate get hot under the collar and act LIKE A HUMAN BEING when he got so agitated at the CLEAR efforts to protray him as saying something he didn't. It was refreshing to see some real emotion.
I know what you mean, but in a way Romney will be better able to handle the pressure at the apex of this campaign when it arrives.
It's going to be Romney who's clear on point and level headed when the inevitable hits are thrown. Obama does shows emotion when he's challenged and I don't think in a good way. He comes off as imperious in a way that Romney does not.
Guest
04-30-2012, 01:05 PM
Let's start listing Obama's flip flops and lies. Could set the record for the longest thread on TOTV.
Guest
04-30-2012, 01:12 PM
Let's start listing Obama's flip flops and lies. Could set the record for the longest thread on TOTV.
That depends on whether it is written by a Democrat or Republican. You could probably just refer people to Ann Coulter's books though. This seems to be one of her favorite topics-- myths told by the liberals and the mob who believes them.
Guest
04-30-2012, 01:27 PM
At this point I will vote for any rep. just to see obama out.
I would never do that, but with Romney running, my choice is simple.
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