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Guest
04-25-2012, 07:36 PM
I cant believe the people who say or imply they know so much about the constitution are in favor of what obama is doing to this country. Now I deal with a lot of illegals every day but I can't turn them in. Even if they are pulled over for a traffic stop they are not questioned in Florida for legal entry to this country. No matter how you look at it they are breaking a law of this country. If an American citizens breaks a law its jail time baby. Now I know of a person that has a legal SS card but does not have a work visa to work in this country. Now you can bet he will apply for benefits and get them. Where is the justice of this I dont get it. We are killing ourselves yes obama is helping. If and I say if we get a rep. for president we best group together and hold him accountable. obama isnt going to do crap and you know it. Its time to face facts and admit he is a dead end. Say what you may but its the truth. Gingrich would be better than obama. ( Hit me for typos if that is all you want worry about our country is more important) And take that picture of obama off left side of the screen

Guest
04-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Someone got up on the wrong side of the crib today....

Guest
04-25-2012, 09:19 PM
Would never question a delusional person for typos. :boom:

Guest
04-25-2012, 11:37 PM
No sense getting all upset. You do what you can, and then vote in November, and let the chips fall as they may. I don't think you're going to be disappointed, as things stand now.

No use giving the commies anything to hang their hat on. It's chin up, and American proud.

Guest
04-26-2012, 03:24 PM
No sense getting all upset. You do what you can, and then vote in November, and let the chips fall as they may. I don't think you're going to be disappointed, as things stand now.

No use giving the commies anything to hang their hat on. It's chin up, and American proud.

OMG! You really are in a race with Gracie for the most posts ever on TOTV. Now you're resorting to posting when you have nothing to say. Good luck because you are far more controversial than she is.

Guest
04-26-2012, 04:17 PM
No sense getting all upset. You do what you can, and then vote in November, and let the chips fall as they may. I don't think you're going to be disappointed, as things stand now.

No use giving the commies anything to hang their hat on. It's chin up, and American proud.

As things stand now? Mittens without any plan for the economy except tax hikes like he did in Massachusetts; Romneycare for the country; pro-choice stand while he was in Massachusetts and flipflopping around like a mackeral; and strapping his dog to the top of the car 30 years ago. Now he travels by private jet and the dog is on the wing of the plane.

Yes, the vote will come in November. Most Hispanics will vote Obama, Most Blacks will vote Obama, all Democrats will vote Obama, most women will vote Obama, most Independents will vote Obama, Most minorities will vote Obama. Gee, that does not leave the majority voting for Romney, does it?

Guest
04-26-2012, 04:40 PM
As things stand now? Mittens without any plan for the economy except tax hikes like he did in Massachusetts; Romneycare for the country; pro-choice stand while he was in Massachusetts and flipflopping around like a mackeral; and strapping his dog to the top of the car 30 years ago. Now he travels by private jet and the dog is on the wing of the plane.

Yes, the vote will come in November. Most Hispanics will vote Obama, Most Blacks will vote Obama, all Democrats will vote Obama, most women will vote Obama, most Independents will vote Obama, Most minorities will vote Obama. Gee, that does not leave the majority voting for Romney, does it?

You forgot young people will vote for President Obama. That leaves only rich people and old white men to vote for Romney. Mitt loves this country - some of his friends own most of it.

Guest
04-26-2012, 05:42 PM
You forgot young people will vote for President Obama. That leaves only rich people and old white men to vote for Romney. Mitt loves this country - some of his friends own most of it.

Both posts ripe with class warfare....of course neither of you will see it as that.....sometimes these kind of rhetoric becomes so automatic you just dont see it, but the fact of the repitition of how successful Romney is and has been in his life and mentioning the color of skin...this is something I find it difficult to respond to.

Hope you all are proud of your points being money and color of skin.

Guest
04-27-2012, 09:34 AM
Both posts ripe with class warfare....of course neither of you will see it as that.....sometimes these kind of rhetoric becomes so automatic you just dont see it, but the fact of the repitition of how successful Romney is and has been in his life and mentioning the color of skin...this is something I find it difficult to respond to.

Hope you all are proud of your points being money and color of skin.

Contact the pollsters and tell them to stop polling by demographics as they've been doing for the last 50 years.

Guest
04-27-2012, 10:11 AM
Contact the pollsters and tell them to stop polling by demographics as they've been doing for the last 50 years.

Let me make this very very clear !!!! I do not,and have not listened to pollsters at any time except when I had to professionally at least not without knowing the makeup of those polled, and even then with great trepidation ESPECIALLY at this time in the campaign

Secondly, YOU are using the polls to call out race and class...not them.

But then again, this was the case in 2008 with this campaign group...it IS important to them !

Guest
04-27-2012, 10:59 AM
OMG! You really are in a race with Gracie for the most posts ever on TOTV. Now you're resorting to posting when you have nothing to say. Good luck because you are far more controversial than she is.

Maybe just nothing you want to hear. I'm not surprised.

Guest
04-27-2012, 12:42 PM
I personally do not find name calling and repeating easily discredited campaigning talking points from either side very compelling. As an example, Gov. Romney does not have a plan for the economy, except the one he wrote (check his web site). I understand that it is from the Saul Alinsky school of politics. In my point of view it is really just another example of anti-intellectualism.

The choice in this election, at least on the economy, is really pretty simple. And James Carville is still correct about the economy. The Dems want to move the US towards European style socialism. The GOP supports free market economics. Now noting is wrong with supporting either vision.

I am hoping to see a rational discussion of the issues. I think the GOP should leave the “birther” issue alone. The Dems should back away from the class warfare rhetoric. Hey, a guy can dream, right?

Guest
04-27-2012, 12:56 PM
I personally do not find name calling and repeating easily discredited campaigning talking points from either side very compelling. As an example, Gov. Romney does not have a plan for the economy, except the one he wrote (check his web site). I understand that it is from the Saul Alinsky school of politics. In my point of view it is really just another example of anti-intellectualism.

The choice in this election, at least on the economy, is really pretty simple. And James Carville is still correct about the economy. The Dems want to move the US towards European style socialism. The GOP supports free market economics. Now noting is wrong with supporting either vision.

I am hoping to see a rational discussion of the issues. I think the GOP should leave the “birther” issue alone. The Dems should back away from the class warfare rhetoric. Hey, a guy can dream, right?

If you can find a Democratic or left leaning person on this forum that will and can discuss any issues, including what you posted, drop me a PM when that begins. The Snarky comments are all I have heard EVEN WHEN I have started threads to compliment the current administration.

It is a dream and I dont think they want to or can !

Guest
04-27-2012, 01:13 PM
Folks, I believe DDoug topic was concerning people's interpretation of the consitution as it relates to illegal immigration. The latest information from NBC was that illegal immigration is way down because Mexico's economy is far outpacing that of the USA and so Mexicans are returning home for good paying jobs...and in fact Mexico has closed its borders to Americans because Americans are following Mexicans across the border for better paying jobs.....just saying:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: