Age of The Villages Residents

[CaptainRickA]

Noticed in the Daily Sun today about two young men, one 22 and one 23, who were in an auto accident and each was listed in the article as "a resident of The Villages." One young man died in the accident and the other was charged with DUI. This is not the first time I've read of young residents in The Villages in the newspaper. I thought there was a minimum age requirement of 55, even for the children of residents.

[chuckinca]

I believe children of residents 19 and over are allowed.

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[graciegirl]

I believe children of residents 19 and over are allowed.

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You used to figure the age of parents by adding 20-25 years to the age of the child. We are getting a lot of young frogs here it seems with some mighty young polywags.

[mulligan]

No, the minimum age is 19. At least one owner on the deed must be 55, but the village wide age is at least 80% over 55, so you will find the occasional "youngster".

[chuckinca]

I believe one owner has to be 55 or older to qualify the home as owned by 55 or older and count toward the 80% 55 or older. Both owners can be under 55 but the total of the under 55's can't exceed 20% of the total homes.

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[Taltarzac725]

You really do not notice the under 55s here in the Villages unless they get arrested for something or other like DUIs, getting naked and throwing chairs into the Villages' swimming pool, drug use and/or sale, or some other such thing.

[ndrsn]

Maybe the 20 year olds are troubled grandkids that have come to live with grandparents??

[jane032657]

I believe that there is a percentage of people who can buy under 55 and neither has to be 55, and I think that may have something to do with a federal or state housing law. I actually thought I read that on a thread not too long ago. But there can be no one living with them under 19 on a full time basis.

[Posh 08]

"They" say 20% must be under 55, but nobody knows who is keeping track.

[asianthree]

I know of a few families who have young adults living with them. Between 20 and 30, who cause 0 problems for anyone. Just here to help parents. We only hear of the bad never the good

[Madelaine Amee]

Times have changed since TV was originally conceived as a retirement community. In those days people worked all their lives and retired at 65, sometimes at 62.

With the changes in the economy, companies closing their doors, people being unable to get another job, we are seeing more and more very young retirees selling their homes in lucrative areas of the North and moving full time to TV.

There is also a difference in working conditions, I have two adult children who work from their homes, in fact one just took a European vacation and continued to work from Europe! This makes it even easier for people to sell their homes up North, relocate to TV and continue to work from home.

As was mentioned by another poster - if you are in your late 40's/early 50s there is a good chance you have children in their 20s, and if they cannot support themselves, cannot find a decent well paying job, cannot afford decent housing, what do you do with them - you bring them with you! I am not necessarily in favor of this, but what else is one to do?

This is obviously just my personal take on what is happening in this changing world of ours.

[spk7951]

It may also be that they are renting here. I do not believe there is anything that can stop a property owner from renting to anyone over 19.

[Golfer in Sanibel]

There are homes off the North side of El Camino Real between Alhambra and the hospital which I was told were for employees of TV. I'm sure those have residents of this age, 22-23. The people who work in the infrastructure companies may live there.

[Skybo]

"They" say 20% must be under 55, but nobody knows who is keeping track.

It�s not about the 20%, it�s about the 80%. The federal Housing for Older Persons Act (HOPA) requires that at least 80% of the homes be occupied by at least one person that is 55+. The developer can do whatever he wants about the other 20%. They could require 100% to be 55+ if they wanted. This doesn�t just apply to The Villages, it is for any 55+ community nationwide. My last community in another state was 55+ and they required that every home had at least one occupant that was 55+. I assure you that someone is keeping track of the percentages. They could lose their HOPA designation otherwise.

See page 2 of this link for the details:
http://www.hud.gov/offices/fheo/library/hopa_final.pdf

[eweissenbach]

I believe one owner has to be 55 or older to qualify the home as owned by 55 or older and count toward the 80% 55 or older. Both owners can be under 55 but the total of the under 55's can't exceed 20% of the total homes.

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"They" say 20% must be under 55, but nobody knows who is keeping track.

Chuck's description of the law is correct. In order to qualify as an "age-restricted" community, AT LEAST 80% of homes must be owned by at least one resident OVER 55. No one under 19 may be a full-time resident, but anyone else may purchase a home as long as no more than 20% are 100% owned by persons under 55. My unscientific observation is that the 20% rule is in no danger of being approached. I did play golf a couple years ago with two men who looked to be in their early 40s or younger, and who each lived in Duval on the same street - both had jobs where they could work from their home and travel. They were bigtime golfers and that is what drew them to TV. The law has no minimum number UNDER 55, and 100% of residents COULD be over 55 and still qualify under the law. I would assume that somewhere in the Morse organization there is someone with a spreadsheet who keeps track of the age distribution and reports to the proper authorities.

EDIT; Skybo pressed the post button before me, thus rendering some of my post redundant.

[Doedee]

This is very confusing to me.. if no one under 19 is allowed to live here, who is going to The Villages Charter Schools? I heard from my parents who are new comers that people who do not meet the age requirement can live in the Villages if they are working in The Villages. They even told me there is a section for them to live and buy in. Is this true??
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[mulligan]

Keeping track is really simple. The birth dates on your ID cards go into a database.

[Skybo]

This is very confusing to me.. if no one under 19 is allowed to live here, who is going to The Villages Charter Schools? I heard from my parents who are new comers that people who do not meet the age requirement can live in the Villages if they are working in The Villages. They even told me there is a section for them to live and buy in. Is this true??
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The Villages Charter School is for the children of TV employees. It is considered one of the �perks� of working for The Villages. Yes, there are two (maybe three?) �family� villages where children under 19 can live. But I�m pretty sure that they don�t pay for or have access to the amenities (rec centers, pools, etc.). Hopefully someone with better knowledge about the �family areas� will chime in.

[eweissenbach]

The Villages Charter School is for the children of TV employees. It is considered one of the �perks� of working for The Villages. Yes, there are two (maybe three?) �family� villages where children under 19 can live. But I�m pretty sure that they don�t pay for or have access to the amenities (rec centers, pools, etc.). Hopefully someone with better knowledge about the �family areas� will chime in.

I beleive Bison Valley, Oak Meadows, and Spring Arbor are the "family villages". You are correct that the school is for employees children and they may or may not live in one of the family villages. The residents of those villages are not eligible for the amenities you mention.

[spk7951]

This is very confusing to me.. if no one under 19 is allowed to live here, who is going to The Villages Charter Schools? I heard from my parents who are new comers that people who do not meet the age requirement can live in the Villages if they are working in The Villages. They even told me there is a section for them to live and buy in. Is this true??
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Students in the Charter Schools come from all over this area. Prior to the morning school start time it is like a parade with all the cars dropping off the kids and the dismissal time brings a long, long line of cars waiting to pick up the kids.

[Bogie Shooter]

This is very confusing to me.. if no one under 19 is allowed to live here, who is going to The Villages Charter Schools? I heard from my parents who are new comers that people who do not meet the age requirement can live in the Villages if they are working in The Villages. They even told me there is a section for them to live and buy in. Is this true??
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Ask your parents to look at their deed restrictions. Section 2 - Covenats, Conditions and Restrictions. Article 2.24.
These can be found here;
VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/deedrestrict-SumterCounty.aspx)

[Dayzee]

We recently spoke with a man who told us that his family specifically moved to the area so they could enroll their children in The Villages Charter School system. I understand it is an EXCELLENT school. Both he and his wife are employees of The Villages.

[kathy and al]

You really do not notice the under 55s here in the Villages unless they get arrested for something or other like DUIs, getting naked and throwing chairs into the Villages' swimming pool, drug use and/or sale, or some other such thing.
Hate to disagree with you. Have you been in either square lately (especially between 5pm-9pm)?? Way too many teens "hanging" around and you just know they don 't have good intentions in mind.

[jimbo2012]

Way too many teens "hanging" around and you just know they don 't have good intentions in mind.

Wow, how do you know what their intentions are?

Another name for stereotyping is bias barf

I wonder if it's to long ago that you were a teenager.

[Bogie Shooter]

Hate to disagree with you. Have you been in either square lately (especially between 5pm-9pm)?? Way too many teens "hanging" around and you just know they don 't have good intentions in mind.

"hanging around"
The squares are public places, duh. Maybe we could hire a security force and have them patrol and check ID's and keep out all those under age (?) and those with bad intentions.
Please get real!

[asianthree]

Some move here because they didn't want to deal with children anymore. Of course played golf lately? Sometime those over 60 can act like children. As long as kids are well behaved let them enjoy a place where they might feel safe.

[kathy and al]

Wow, how do you know what their intentions are?

Another name for stereotyping is bias barf

I wonder if it's to long ago that you were a teenager.
I live here.

[kathy and al]

"hanging around"
The squares are public places, duh. Maybe we could hire a security force and have them patrol and check ID's and keep out all those under age (?) and those with bad intentions.
Please get real!
In my opinion, your suggestion has real merit.

[hotrodgirl]

I think most kids keep us young, active and informed! And if you give them a chance and get to know them, they may offer help when the occasion arises. There is good and bad in all ages, and with our guidance and knowledge, the majority of kids turn out just fine! I bet the same may have been said about our (your) generation. Relax, and enjoy your time at TV!

[Barefoot]

I beleive Bison Valley, Oak Meadows, and Spring Arbor are the "family villages". You are correct that the school is for employees children and they may or may not live in one of the family villages. The residents of those villages are not eligible for the amenities you mention.

Also Parkwoods on CR 101 is a family community.

[Barefoot]

Hate to disagree with you. Have you been in either square lately (especially between 5pm-9pm)?? Way too many teens "hanging" around and you just know they don 't have good intentions in mind.

I'm not sure what you mean by "way too many teens hanging around". If you live in TV, then you know the Town Squares are open to the public. Teenagers visiting in TV, as well as those from surroundings areas, are welcome to attend movies, eat at the restaurants, etc. The Villages is NOT a gated community.

[chuckinca]

In my opinion, your suggestion has real merit.

Sure takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. How do you stand on dog poop?


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[skip0358]

You moved to TV which is 55 and over. However you didn't do your homework. 20% can be under 55 by FEDERAL law. Anybody over 19 can live here either with family or by renting that is written in your deed restrictions. No child under 19 can reside more then 30 days { I know it has happened so don't waste your time correcting me }. That's the rules. If your looking for a true your to young you can't live here community you picked the WRONG one. As for me I could care less. Old or young we all break the law, we can all get in accidents etc. If you can't deal with it it's your own fault for not knowing before you moved here. As i said I love it,don't intend to leave until the good lord takes me. Life is to short to worry about such stupid crap.JMO

[CaptJohn]

Sure takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. How do you stand on dog poop?


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You really shouldn't be standing on it! :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[kathy and al]

Sure takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. How do you stand on dog poop?


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With both feet!!

[anlashokna]

I know of a few families who have young adults living with them. Between 20 and 30, who cause 0 problems for anyone. Just here to help parents. We only hear of the bad never the good

Yep :) I just posted on another thread...I'm 37 and here to stay with my mother and help her and look after her till my dad retires in a year. He's going to be in another state. So nope not all of us are here for bad reasons, just caring for her and making her feel safe. I actually enjoy the quiet environment where we live. The neighbors back in NC were driving all of us insane! Like to find some activities we can both do so I can get her out and into the community activites. She tends to be a homebody.

[asianthree]

Our friends are coming to stay at our home while they interview for jobs at two of the hospitals They are CRNAs not planning on children and are in their 30s. Like they said where else can they live and use a golf cart to drive to work.

[Bogie Shooter]

Our friends are coming to stay at our home while they interview for jobs at two of the hospitals They are CRNAs not planning on children and are in their 30s. Like they said where else can they live and use a golf cart to drive to work.

Two 30 year olds will have a hard time buying a house with deed restrictions saying one resident has to be age 55.

[thistrucksforyou]

Noticed in the Daily Sun today about two young men, one 22 and one 23, who were in an auto accident and each was listed in the article as "a resident of The Villages." One young man died in the accident and the other was charged with DUI. This is not the first time I've read of young residents in The Villages in the newspaper. I thought there was a minimum age requirement of 55, even for the children of residents.

What 20 something in there right mind would want to hang around a bunch of old duffers ...

[NotGolfer]

Back to the original post....I saw the obit for the young man who died in the accident. It stated his mom lived in T.V. so I surmised he could have been living with her. He worked at a local restaurant.

As for teens hanging on the squares....I haven't observed that however as someone else said they could live in the surrounding area "villages". So where would you have them go? The area is where they live and the squares are for everyone. I know folks who winter in Tavares and Leesburg who come over to the squares for the entertainment so it definately draws others from a broader area than just T.V. and Dell Webb communities.

[jbdlfan]

Back to the original post....I saw the obit for the young man who died in the accident. It stated his mom lived in T.V. so I surmised he could have been living with her. He worked at a local restaurant.

As for teens hanging on the squares....I haven't observed that however as someone else said they could live in the surrounding area "villages". So where would you have them go? The area is where they live and the squares are for everyone. I know folks who winter in Tavares and Leesburg who come over to the squares for the entertainment so it definately draws others from a broader area than just T.V. and Dell Webb communities.

Many of these "undesirables" (I am referring to a previous post) are also students to all the local schools, including the charter school. Like has been mentioned, these are public places, wait until the southern most square opens up.
On another note, my wife and I just moved into The Villages this past weekend for a 15 month "test drive." She is 43 and I am 47. Hope you don't mind......

[jimbo2012]

Many of these "undesirables" (I am referring to a previous post) are also students to all the local schools, including the charter school.

What classifies them as undesirables?

Did you run a police background check on them, did they say something nasty, did they try and rob you or was it the way they dressed, what brought you to that conclusion?

On another note, my wife and I just moved into The Villages this past weekend for a 15 month "test drive." She is 43 and I am 47.

Hope you don't mind......

that may depend on your answer to the above question, so far I must say I don't like your classification of others.

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[Posh 08]

What classifies them as undesirables?

Did you run a police background check on them, did they say something nasty, did they try and rob you or was it the way they dressed, what brought you to that conclusion?



that may depend on your answer to the above question, so far I must say I don't like your classification of others.

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I think he was quoting others.

[jbdlfan]

No, I don't find them undesirable at all. I apologize, I was actually refering to earlier posters and from other threads that mention these kids. I know quite a few of them and understand why they are there. Trust me, I see most of these kids on a daily basis!

[jimbo2012]

ok, sorry my error

[Graytop]

Noticed in the Daily Sun today about two young men, one 22 and one 23, who were in an auto accident and each was listed in the article as "a resident of The Villages." One young man died in the accident and the other was charged with DUI. This is not the first time I've read of young residents in The Villages in the newspaper. I thought there was a minimum age requirement of 55, even for the children of residents.

I bought my home in TV when I was 49, as was my wife. It was a previously owned home. Originally I was told 55 for new construction, 45 for previously owned,.....who knows?:confused:

[Schaumburger]

I bought my home in TV when I was 49, as was my wife. It was a previously owned home. Originally I was told 55 for new construction, 45 for previously owned,.....who knows?:confused:

As a wannabee, I have been to quite a few open houses during my visits in 2010 and 2011. I always ask about a single person over age 50, but under age 55, with no kids -- any problems/issues buying a home in TV. I was always told no problem by both TV sales agents and MLS agents regarding buying a preowned home, but some extra paperwork/approvals are needed to buy new construction, but normally not a problem to buy new construction if you are over age 50, under age 55 with no kids.

[grote15]

Thanks for trying to be of help. Can you tell me if you know of anyone who actually lives there and what they think about it? I'm a Villager for several years and my niece would love to relocate w. her family and buy a home in such a community. Any info you could provide on any such development would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

[Bogie Shooter]

Thanks for trying to be of help. Can you tell me if you know of anyone who actually lives there and what they think about it? I'm a Villager for several years and my niece would love to relocate w. her family and buy a home in such a community. Any info you could provide on any such development would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

Why not just take a ride thru there. When you see someone out and about stop and ask them.

[skyguy79]

You really shouldn't be standing on it! :1rotfl::1rotfl:I would have said by putting plastic bags over my shoes! :1rotfl::1rotfl: