George Zimmerman Defense Team website

[Taltarzac725]

Home (http://gzlegalcase.com/)

I wonder if any other high profile cases' defense teams have done this??

[Taltarzac725]

Home (http://gzlegalcase.com/)

I wonder if any other high profile cases' defense teams have done this??

This Zimmerman defense team website is interesting. Something new seems to appear quite regularly.

[Figmo Bohica]

They really should have hired a good web designer. Home is not a good title for this site.

[Taltarzac725]

They really should have hired a good web designer. Home is not a good title for this site.


Home--that does not really seem appropriate.

Law professors must be having a field day with this website though.

[buggyone]

I just saw this on Yahoo News. Very interesting about the funds being used for Zimmerman's living expenses and legal expenses. I am hoping that lots of the posters on this forum who think Zimmerman is getting a raw deal will contribute a lot of money. That way, Florida is not going to stuck with his legal fees like we were with Casey Anthony.



George Zimmerman's new defense fund is up and running, collecting donations online through the blog-style website set up recently by his attorney, Mark O'Mara.

According to the latest post on the site, GZLegalCase.com, Zimmerman's defense team received registration certification from the Florida Division of Consumer Services on Thursday.

"These monies will be used for George Zimmerman's ongoing living expenses, legal costs, and fees for this matter," the post says. "The funds are being administered by a third-party administrator, who has a background of being a former IRS agent, a Certified Public Accountant, and great experience in dealing with Chapter 7 bankruptcy trustee matters."

[CMANN]

I just saw this on Yahoo News. Very interesting about the funds being used for Zimmerman's living expenses and legal expenses. I am hoping that lots of the posters on this forum who think Zimmerman is getting a raw deal will contribute a lot of money. That way, Florida is not going to stuck with his legal fees like we were with Casey Anthony.



George Zimmerman's new defense fund is up and running, collecting donations online through the blog-style website set up recently by his attorney, Mark O'Mara.

According to the latest post on the site, GZLegalCase.com, Zimmerman's defense team received registration certification from the Florida Division of Consumer Services on Thursday.

"These monies will be used for George Zimmerman's ongoing living expenses, legal costs, and fees for this matter," the post says. "The funds are being administered by a third-party administrator, who has a background of being a former IRS agent, a Certified Public Accountant, and great experience in dealing with Chapter 7 bankruptcy trustee matters."

You wanted him arrested, now support him.

[paulandjean]

Do they really think people will send in money to support him.I can see their advertisement now,"Send money-Killer needs defense team".Who cares if the people of Florida have to pay for his trial and attorney like in the Anthony case,that money was just peanuts. This is going to backfire on them.

[skyguy79]

They really should have hired a good web designer. Home is not a good title for this site.

Home--that does not really seem appropriate.Actually, "Home" is not the title of the site. It's the "default title" of the page in the software's template used for the site's homepage. It's not really a reflection of the quality of a webmaster, but they are supposed to change it to reflect what they want to appear when the hompage is displayed. It is an oversight that I've overlooked myself at times when was doing websites.

In the case of it's appearance in the OP, TOTV's software goes and changes the website's address to whatever is in the homepages meta statement under the title tag as shown in the quote below. If it had said "Figmo Taltarzak" or "skyguy's a yin-yang" in between those title tags, then the link (or title as you're calling it) would have shown as "Figmo Taltarzak" or "skyguy's a yin-yang" and that would definitely got be a good title or appropriate, especially the second example! :1rotfl:


<metacharset="utf-8"/>
<basehref="http://gzlegalcase.com/"/>
<metaname="generator"content="Joomla! - Open Source Content Management"/>
<title>Home</title>
..........etc.

[buggyone]

You wanted him arrested, now support him.

No, we wanted him arrested. We want him in prison.

[CMANN]

No, we wanted him arrested. We want him in prison.

Why?

[DaleMN]

NRA & ALEC will probably contribute mightily. :grumpy:

[Taltarzac725]

NRA & ALEC will probably contribute mightily. :grumpy:

This ALEC? ALEC – American Legislative Exchange Council | Limited Government · Free Markets · Federalism (http://www.alec.org/)

ALEC Exposed - Alec Exposed (http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed)

[skyguy79]

ALEC Exposed - Alec Exposed (http://alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed)I would encourage anyone who has the time, to go to the quoted link and learn what "ALEC Exposed" is all about. It's was so obvious to me that I don't think I have to say a word about it for you to get it. :ohdear:

BTW, before this quoted post, I never even heard of "ALEC" let alone "ALEC Exposed!" Also, if you want to bypass all the aah... stuff packed into their site, you can just go directly to the following link where they will tell you everything they obviously want you to know about their site and mission! Alec Exposed:About (http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/Alec_Exposed:About)

[Taltarzac725]

I would encourage anyone who has the time, to go to the quoted link and learn what "ALEC Exposed" is all about. It's was so obvious to me that I don't think I have to say a word about it for you to get it. :ohdear:

BTW, before this quoted post, I never even heard of "ALEC" let alone "ALEC Exposed!" Also, if you want to bypass all the aah... stuff packed into their site, you can just go directly to the following link where they will tell you everything they obviously want you to know about their site and mission! Alec Exposed:About (http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/Alec_Exposed:About)

I had not heard of ALEC before either. Not sure why they would be interested in helping out George Zimmerman.

[DaleMN]

I had not heard of ALEC before either. Not sure why they would be interested in helping out George Zimmerman.

ALEC is the organization that probably wrote the 'stand your ground' law. They are right wing and promoting and writing legislation such as stand your ground, voter ID laws and other similar crap. :rant-rave:

[Taltarzac725]

ALEC is the organization that probably wrote the 'stand your ground' law. They are right wing and promoting and writing legislation such as stand your ground, voter ID laws and other similar crap. :rant-rave:


ALEC drops push for 'Stand Your Ground,' Voter-ID laws - KCTV 5 (http://www.kctv5.com/story/17524506/alec-drops-push-for-stand-your-ground-voter-id-laws)

[janmcn]

ALEC has lost many of their sponsors: Coke, Pepsi, Kraft Foods, etc, in the last few months because of their hard right agenda. Therefore they are dropping their backing of the "stand your ground" and voter suppression laws. They're not doing it because of changes in attitude, but purely for financial reasons.

[CMANN]

Just for the record, the Florida stand your ground law contains no justification for not arresting George Zimmerman.

If there were no stand your ground law in Florida what would be the justification for the police arresting George Zimmerman? I think that would be that the police did not believe that George Zimmerman acted in self defense.

It appears that they did believe that George Zimmerman acted in self-defense so they did not arrest him.

It makes sense to me. Doesn't it make sense to you?

[janmcn]

Just for the record, the Florida stand your ground law contains no justification for not arresting George Zimmerman.

If there were no stand your ground law in Florida what would be the justification for the police arresting George Zimmerman? I think that would be that the police did not believe that George Zimmerman acted in self defense.

It appears that they did believe that George Zimmerman acted in self-defense so they did not arrest him.

It makes sense to me. Doesn't it make sense to you?

Even if the police believed him at first, obviously after looking at all the evidence, the special prosecutor Angela Corey did not believe him as she charged him with second degree murder. Now it will be up to a jury to decide, if it ever comes to trial and if he survives that long.

[CMANN]

Even if the police believed him at first, obviously after looking at all the evidence, the special prosecutor Angela Corey did not believe him as she charged him with second degree murder. Now it will be up to a jury to decide, if it ever comes to trial and if he survives that long.

have you been hiding under a rock? That whole indictment is nothing but racist claptrap brought about by professional race baiters. I should think that you were aware that. That is the most disgusting part of the case. It is bad that Trayvon Martin is dead. Let's not compound the issue by trying to destroy an innocent man if in fact he is innocent.

I don't know what your motivation is to look at this case the way you do but I can guess.

But as I said they stand your ground law has no bearing on this case as legitimately viewed not as racially skewed.

[manaboutown]

ALEC has lost many of their sponsors: Coke, Pepsi, Kraft Foods, etc, in the last few months because of their hard right agenda. Therefore they are dropping their backing of the "stand your ground" and voter suppression laws. They're not doing it because of changes in attitude, but purely for financial reasons.

What is a "voter suppression law"? I never heard of such a thing!

[Taltarzac725]

New development in the Zimmerman case with the release of 67 CDs from the State to Zimmerman's lawyer.

Home (http://gzlegalcase.com/)

New evidence against George Zimmerman spans 67 CDs (http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2012/5/15/new_zimmerman_eviden.html)

[manaboutown]

ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclusive-zimmerman-medical-report-shows-broken-204911351--abc-news-topstories.html)

Note: This report contains some of the usual mainstream media spin, disinformation and distortion some of which is glaring.

[janmcn]

What is a "voter suppression law"? I never heard of such a thing!

A 'voter suppression law' is a law passed by a state legislature that violates the Voters Rights Act and subsequently has to go before the courts, such as the law passed by the Florida legislature. The SC election law has been thrown out.

You must not watch much TV. This issue is constantly in the news.

[manaboutown]

A 'voter suppression law' is a law passed by a state legislature that violates the Voters Rights Act and subsequently has to go before the courts, such as the law passed by the Florida legislature. The SC election law has been thrown out.

You must not watch much TV. This issue is constantly in the news.

Actually I watch as little TV as possible, especially the mainstream news media. Mark Twain said something along these lines. If you want to remain uninformed do not read the newspapers. If you wish to be misinformed read them. If I want to know about something I dig it out. After checking out the "voter suppression" topic at wikipedia it strikes me that it is akin to gerrymandering. It seems to me though, that there should be some way of assuring that those who vote are both qualified and entitled to vote. If I want to cash a check, get on an airplane or even enter a major office building in NYC I need to show a government issued ID. I recall reading that LBJ won his first election to the Texas state legislature through votes cast by people using names off the gravestones in a cemetery.

[Advogado]

As more evidence is revealed, it is appearing more and more that the case against Zimmerman is not weak; but, instead, is nonexistent.

However, I am still waiting for all the facts to be made public before drawing any conclusions about guilt or innocence. The one thing that is crystal clear, at this point, is that the media was suckered by the racial demagogues into reporting about the incident in a manner that was inaccurate, distorted, and needlessly inflammatory.

[hdh1470]

:bigbow::agree::agree:As more evidence is revealed, it is appearing more and more that the case against Zimmerman is not weak; but, instead, is nonexistent.

However, I am still waiting for all the facts to be made public before drawing any conclusions about guilt or innocence. The one thing that is crystal clear, at this point, is that the media was suckered by the racial demagogues into reporting about the incident in a manner that was inaccurate, distorted, and needlessly inflammatory.

[rp001]

Every 4 yrs Fl has this issue it seems..There have been numerous lawsuits brought against the state due to attempts by certain political factions to disenfranchise voters..It is already brewing for the next election and the sides are lining up for a court battle...AGAIIIN ..That's why we are called Flori..duh

[manaboutown]

Drop George Zimmerman (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/drop-george-zimmerman-murder-charge-article-1.1080161?localLinksEnabled=false)

[skyc6]

Whenever Sharpton and Jackson show up, the media circus starts and the whole trial becomes similar to O.J.Simpson. Just look at the Duke lacrosse mess, and what that fiasco cost the taxpayers not to mention the wrongly accused.
Why weren't Sharpton and Jackson around during the death of the Florida band member?? Oh, yeah...both parties were black, so they won't be able to gain media attention for themselves if both parties are black. That death was not important enough for them to bother. It is always awful when a death occurs, and what color they are is not important. At this point, I don't know if a fair trial is possible, and I feel there is blame on both sides.

[buggyone]

Once again, IF Zimmerman had stayed in his car instead of following Martin on foot, Martin would be alive today and Zimmerman would be a non-entity and not be looking at 25 years in prison - or be found not guilty and probably having to move, change his name, and be looking over his shoulder forever.

I am sure Zimmerman is thinking of that every day.

[Advogado]

Once again, IF Zimmerman had stayed in his car instead of following Martin on foot, Martin would be alive today and Zimmerman would be a non-entity and not be looking at 25 years in prison - or be found not guilty and probably having to move, change his name, and be looking over his shoulder forever.

I am sure Zimmerman is thinking of that every day.

And if George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin had slept twenty minutes longer on that fateful day the whole sequence of events that day would have been different and the shooting would not have happened.

The point is that Zimmerman had every right to leave his car. A smart idea? Certainly not-- especially In light of the way things turned out. But clearly legal and no justification for Martin attacking him, IF that is what happened.

[buggyone]

If YOU were Zimmerman's father, would you have told him to get out of his car, take a loaded pistol, and follow an unknown person on a rainy night? Or would YOU have told your son to stay in his car and wait for the police to arrive and take charge of the situation?

[Taltarzac725]

Still not sure what happened between Zimmerman and Martin on that lawn. It also looks like the police botched the investigation of the shooting forensics so we may never know what really occurred. Trayvon Martin: 'Stand Your Ground' law at center of botched case (http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/trayvon-martin-botched-case-could-leave-no-escape-from-stand-your-ground.php)

[ceejay]

If YOU were Zimmerman's father, would you have told him to get out of his car, take a loaded pistol, and follow an unknown person on a rainy night? Or would YOU have told your son to stay in his car and wait for the police to arrive and take charge of the situation?

Really...what does this have to do with it?

Of course, I am assuming, that everyone on this board would have told our sons not to get out of the car. However, I don't believe that that was the scenario that night. His father had nothing to do with it.

George Zimmerman is a grown man and able to make decisions on his own. He was out in his capacity as a neighborhood watch. He was concerned about a stranger in his neighborhood.

What exactly happened after he did get out of the car is not yet known.

Evidence is mounting and I am sure that we will get the full story soon.

[buggyone]

No matter what the outcome of the trial is, Zimmerman's life will never be the same as before. IF the verdict is guilty, he goes to prison. IF the verdict is not guilty, Martin's family will go after him in a civil suit possibly taking all current and future earnings.

[Advogado]

If YOU were Zimmerman's father, would you have told him to get out of his car, take a loaded pistol, and follow an unknown person on a rainy night? Or would YOU have told your son to stay in his car and wait for the police to arrive and take charge of the situation?

Obviously, I would have told him the latter. In my posts, I do not defend Zimmerman's actions, which, especially with the benefit of hindsight, were not very smart-- but not illegal. On the other hand, as more and more evidence appears, it looks more and more as though the shooting was justified.

But until all the evidence is public, I draw no conclusions as to Zimmerman's guilt or innocence. My gripe is with the slanted media reporting and with the racial demagogues like Sharpton and Jackson and some posters to this forum who are convicting Zimmerman despite the fact that the publicly available information does not indicate that he committed a crime. For an objective analysis, read the Dershowitz (sp?) article linked to in an earlier post.

[Advogado]

No matter what the outcome of the trial is, Zimmerman's life will never be the same as before. IF the verdict is guilty, he goes to prison. IF the verdict is not guilty, Martin's family will go after him in a civil suit possibly taking all current and future earnings.

Based on the evidence now publicly available, if Zimmerman is acquitted, I find it hard to believe that Martin's family would win a civil suit. What is your basis for thinking otherwise?

[buggyone]

It is the family's right to file a civil suit after the criminal action and those are for wrongful death cause and usually asks for large sums of money. The case is decided on a preponderacne of the evidence and not beyond the shadow of doubt as in a criminal case.

Not saying the Martin family would prevail but chances are the civil suit would be forthcoming if a not guilty criminal case happens.

[manaboutown]

It is the family's right to file a civil suit after the criminal action and those are for wrongful death cause and usually asks for large sums of money. The case is decided on a preponderacne of the evidence and not beyond the shadow of doubt as in a criminal case.

Not saying the Martin family would prevail but chances are the civil suit would be forthcoming if a not guilty criminal case happens.

Anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason. Zimmerman appears to be judgment proof since he apparently has few assets, if any. He is no O.J. in the asset department as well as possibly (or probably) in culpability. The Martin family stands to profit most on martyring Martin as they seem to be attempting to do. Sorry for the pun.

[janmcn]

Really...what does this have to do with it?

Of course, I am assuming, that everyone on this board would have told our sons not to get out of the car. However, I don't believe that that was the scenario that night. His father had nothing to do with it.

George Zimmerman is a grown man and able to make decisions on his own. He was out in his capacity as a neighborhood watch. He was concerned about a stranger in his neighborhood.

What exactly happened after he did get out of the car is not yet known.

Evidence is mounting and I am sure that we will get the full story soon.

George Zimmerman was not out in his capacity as a neighborhood watch that night, but was instead heading to Target with his fully loaded 9mm gun. If he had been out doing his neighborhood watch duties, he would have been violating the neighborhood watch code by carrying a gun. He was made aware of the rules of neighborhood watch at an organizational meeting by the Sanford Police Department.

Another correction to a previous poster. Zimmerman was not 5 feet 9 inches as reported by his father, but 5 feet 7 inches as reported on the police report. He was four inches shorter than Trayvon Martin, but 50 pounds heavier. It sounds like he was trying to make up for his own inadequacies by carrying a big gun.

[manaboutown]

It sounds like he was trying to make up for his own inadequacies by carrying a big gun.

Actually his 9mm is a rather compact pistol. A "big gun" is say a .357 or .44 magnum or a .45. At sometime in the past he was told he might carry a gun in that area because of some frightening experience with vicious dogs. He took instructions and started carrying. As for making up for any inadequacies, that is pure speculation. He had not carried a handgun prior to his scary experiences with neighborhood dogs.

[Advogado]

It is the family's right to file a civil suit after the criminal action and those are for wrongful death cause and usually asks for large sums of money. The case is decided on a preponderacne of the evidence and not beyond the shadow of doubt as in a criminal case.

Not saying the Martin family would prevail but chances are the civil suit would be forthcoming if a not guilty criminal case happens.

Agree, there will probably be a civil suit, whether or not Zimmerman is convicted. My point is that, unless there is additional nonpublic evidence, it looks like Zimmerman, rightly or wrongly, will be acquitted (or the case dismissed before trial). If so, it seems unlikely that sufficient evidence will exist for Martin's family to win a civil suit.

If the civil suit follows an acquittal, it will be another media circus-- with Sharpton and Jackson stirring things up racial strife for the benefit of the plaintiffs (and themselves) and the NRA and the gun nuts jumping in to finance Zimmerman's side. One more reason not to carry a firearm under most circumstances.

[CMANN]

If YOU were Zimmerman's father, would you have told him to get out of his car, take a loaded pistol, and follow an unknown person on a rainy night? Or would YOU have told your son to stay in his car and wait for the police to arrive and take charge of the situation?

I would have said nothing. He was doing his job as a watchman. I would hope he would be safe.

[CMANN]

Still not sure what happened between Zimmerman and Martin on that lawn. It also looks like the police botched the investigation of the shooting forensics so we may never know what really occurred. Trayvon Martin: 'Stand Your Ground' law at center of botched case (http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/trayvon-martin-botched-case-could-leave-no-escape-from-stand-your-ground.php)

it could have been a simple case of self-defense. Did you ever think of that?

The only reason the stand your ground law is at the center of this is because of the anti-gun movement. It really has little to do with the case.

[CMANN]

No matter what the outcome of the trial is, Zimmerman's life will never be the same as before. IF the verdict is guilty, he goes to prison. IF the verdict is not guilty, Martin's family will go after him in a civil suit possibly taking all current and future earnings.

there is the part that you do not understand. Stand your ground would prevent anybody from suing him. That's the purpose of stand your ground. To protect the defender if he was justified.

[CMANN]

It is the family's right to file a civil suit after the criminal action and those are for wrongful death cause and usually asks for large sums of money. The case is decided on a preponderacne of the evidence and not beyond the shadow of doubt as in a criminal case.

Not saying the Martin family would prevail but chances are the civil suit would be forthcoming if a not guilty criminal case happens.

again, if Zimmerman is found to have been justified nobody can sue him. Stand Your Ground.

[CMANN]

Anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason. Zimmerman appears to be judgment proof since he apparently has few assets, if any. He is no O.J. in the asset department as well as possibly (or probably) in culpability. The Martin family stands to profit most on martyring Martin as they seem to be attempting to do. Sorry for the pun.

one more time, if justified in shooting Martin Zimmerman is protected from lawsuits thanks to stand your ground.

[Advogado]

one more time, if justified in shooting Martin Zimmerman is protected from lawsuits thanks to stand your ground.

I would be almost willing to bet that, despite the lawsuit protection in stand-your-ground, some inventive plaintiffs' lawyer will find a basis to sue Zimmerman (e.g., federal civil rights violation). Will the plaintiffs win? I doubt it, based on the information currently available.

[DaleMN]

Don't know if they can sue or not...but remember OJ was acquitted of double murder and lost the following civil suit. So being acquitted does not necessarily bode well for winning civil suit too.

[CMANN]

I would be almost willing to bet that, despite the lawsuit protection in stand-your-ground, some inventive plaintiffs' lawyer will find a basis to sue Zimmerman (e.g., federal civil rights violation). Will the plaintiffs win? I doubt it, based on the information currently available.

the Justice Department are starting to believe it is racist will be investigating Zimmerman for civil rights violations. Based on their actions in the past I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they manage to dream some up. It seems to be their policy only go after white folk. I hope this is not true.

[DaleMN]

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