Dictator Obama Issues New Threat to Supreme Court over ObamaCare

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In his latest display of his full USA federal government dictatorship over both the American people and the former co-branches of government, Dictator Obama is warning the Supreme Court to either rule in his favor or face severe consequences.



Fox News’ Martha McCallum advised Thursday that the Obama Administration has been quietly sending missives to the Supreme Court threatening that if it doesn’t rule in his favor on ObamaCare, Medicare will face disruption and “chaos.” Therefore, if SCOTUS rules in favor of the US Constitution, Obama & Co will begin its campaign to either destroy Medicare or make those on it suffer greatly. The Obama syndicate is said to be threatening to hold off Medicare payments to doctors and hospitals if SCOTUS does not comply with Obama’s demands and submit to him.


Dictator Obama Issues New Threat to Supreme Court over ObamaCare (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46448)

Did anyone else hear anything about these two EOs? Will be interesting to see what happens.

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Probably just stating the obvious consequences. You don't threaten the Supreme Court I wouldn't think. Another instance of gross embellishment and exaggeration. :yuck:

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Not sure I'd take Martha serious about anything. The POTUS is a lawyer so I have an idea he wouldn't cross any lines. He'll come real close but that's the way they move.

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Probably just stating the obvious consequences. You don't threaten the Supreme Court I wouldn't think. Another instance of gross embellishment and exaggeration. :yuck:

didn't read the link; huh?

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Just letting you read the article, you should really look up the Executive Orders if you are in doubt. Me thinks that there might be some tarnish on your wonderful "O."

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Just letting you read the article, you should really look up the Executive Orders if you are in doubt. Me thinks that there might be some tarnish on your wonderful "O."

It's only tarnish if reported in the New York Times; otherwise it's "what the heck you talking about??"

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Sorry, I don't get the New York Times. Guess I was all wrong about posting this. But the EOs are scary.

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Sorry, I don't get the New York Times. Guess I was all wrong about posting this. But the EOs are scary.

Your input is always respected. Thanks for taking the time to post it.

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Dictator Obama Issues New Threat to Supreme Court over ObamaCare (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46448)

Did anyone else hear anything about these two EOs? Will be interesting to see what happens.

My short investigation shows that the administration is simply warning the court if they strike down the law in total, there are provision in the law that would adversly affect medicaire. It may be an implied threat but they have "some" firm ground to stand on. Actually when you read the words and I will give you a link it is an implied threat.

"Medicare's payment system, the unseen but vital network that handles 100 million monthly claims, could freeze up if President Barack Obama's health care law is summarily overturned, the administration has quietly informed the courts. Although Obama's overhaul made significant cuts to providers and improved prescription and preventive benefits, Medicare was overlooked in Supreme Court arguments that focused on the law's controversial requirement that individuals carry health insurance"

Medicare disruptions seen if Supreme Court strikes down health care law | NOLA.com (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/05/medicare_disruptions_seen_if_s.html)

They are actually threatening in the immigration law in Arizona..not implying. It is either their way or else. The wheels in the Senate are already underway on that one.

Then there is this...

"As an additional example of Obama’s illegal and (I believe) highly treasonous behaviors, on 1 May and 2 May Obama issued two additional unconstitutional and illegal Executive Orders. The first E.O., issued 1 May 2012, makes the USA subject to “international regulations” as opposed to looking to and following the US Constitution. Also, with this new E.O., the US FDA will now be able to be bypassed by International committees—thus, replacing the FDA with any international group which may be chosen. In essence, Obama is quickly eliminating US Sovereignty and selling the USA to the international “community.”

Dictator Obama Issues New Threat to Supreme Court over ObamaCare (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46448)

This I want to do some more reading on !!!

HOWEVER not one thing about any of this surprised me at all. This is Barrack Obama.....this is how he operates and those who choose to make fun of me and others because we actually see where his going..well, that is your right.

Actually somebody posted a link to the TAMPA Times meter where they measure how well he has done with promises, touting the high average...one of them and a typical one is that he extended the Bush tax cuts. Man, the entire operation is operating on the fringe !

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PS......What do you think the odds are that this makes any MSM ???

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PS......What do you think the odds are that this makes any MSM ???

That was my point as I was kidding Figmo.

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That was my point as I was kidding Figmo.

YES....the media is a real disappointment to me, not just on coverage or lack thereof of Obama but they are now pretty open with their bias which to me is pretty scary for the country. Their competition for viewers now seems to out weigh truth and facts.

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didn't read the link; huh?

Never read links without merit. :laugh:

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"President Obama on Monday issued stern language to the Supreme Court of the United States regarding his health care law, expressing confidence "Obamacare" will not be overturned by the nation's highest court.

"I'm confident this will be upheld because it should be upheld," the president said Monday afternoon at a White House press conference that included ‪Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who are attending the North American Leaders' Summit. The president said overturning the law would be "an unprecedented and extraordinary step" and compared the court's rejection of the law to "judicial activism."


THIS next quote is quite an admonishment to the court from my perspective...

"The president stressed that the judges are "unelected" and noted that the law was passed by a democratically elected Congress."

I assume we still have THREE branches of government !!!

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"President Obama on Monday issued stern language to the Supreme Court of the United States regarding his health care law, expressing confidence "Obamacare" will not be overturned by the nation's highest court.

"I'm confident this will be upheld because it should be upheld," the president said Monday afternoon at a White House press conference that included ‪Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who are attending the North American Leaders' Summit. The president said overturning the law would be "an unprecedented and extraordinary step" and compared the court's rejection of the law to "judicial activism."


THIS next quote is quite an admonishment to the court from my perspective...

"The president stressed that the judges are "unelected" and noted that the law was passed by a democratically elected Congress."

I assume we still have THREE branches of government !!!

FDR huffed and puffed to the Supreme Court. They handed him his ass.

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Never read links without merit. :laugh:

Figured that why you didn't know what we were talking about.

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Wow !!! No criticism from a single R in Congress?

where is Mitch?
where is The Weeper?
where is Cantor?
where is Bachmann?
where is Willlard?

Not a SINGLE person on the R side has spoken up? Shocking, I say !! Simply shocking ......

Or maybe all of the above Cons, unlike the Cons here, take Martha a grain of salt?

Wait .... is this the same Martha who, a few months ago, was doing a story on the failed 1/2 governor and in their stupidity they mistakenly had a photo posted of Tina Fey posted? Guess ole Martha can't tell the difference between The Quitta and Tina Fey.

And this is your news source? LOL ........

C'mon Cons .... is this all you have to whine about? Total fabricated BS .....

It's always fun though .........

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Ah yes, an ultra right-wing rag from Canada reports the Fox view of the full and unbiased news from Washington, DC. Get real and read the executive orders, folks. Have an open mind and think for yourselves.

My posting is not going to change any conservative minds on this forum and I do not have that intention. Just hoping that maybe one or two of them might just start thinking for themself.

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Executive order 13609, Promoting International Regulatory Cooperation, does appear to grant US regulatory agencies authority to adopt standards set by other countries rather than those approved by Congress and encourages these agencies to adopt 'international' standards in preference to those favored by the US public.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-10968.pdf

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Executive order 13609, Promoting International Regulatory Cooperation, does appear to grant US regulatory agencies to adopt standards set by other countries rather than those approved by Congress and encourage these agencies to adopt 'international' standards in preference to those favored by the US public.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-10968.pdf

Sounds wonderful. I guess this is the hope and change Buggy was pining for. "Constitution, Constitution??.......we doan nid no stinkin' Constitution"

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I do not understand what the heck these conservatives are yelping about. The Executive Order is promoting more international trade by saying that the US will be more cooprerative with foreign countries in terms of regulatory standards that may have kept US and international trade from happening. It is a job creator.

What is RichieLion squawking about when he says the Constitution is jeopardized by this?

The conservatives should be glad that a Democrat president is promoting more international trade which helps manufacturers in the USA and helps to create jobs.

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The article from the Canadian Free Press does not actually give any more information about the messages to the Supreme Court. It does call two Executive Orders treasonous though. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46448

It looks like garbage to me.

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Of course it is garbage. If these posters would read the Executive Order, they would see for themselves what they say instead of reading a extremist rag from Canada about American politics.

Once again, read for yourselves.

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And how many of you protested against the looney left's "Fascist Bush" and "Emperor BUsh" statements?

You lost me at "Dictator".

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Obama's become the all time champion of bypassing the Congress and acting as a dictator. He's even "recess appointed" when Congress WASN'T IN RECESS.

If a Republican did any of the stuff that Obama is doing, all you hypocritical rabid-lefties would be squealing like pigs stuck in barbed wire.

The Supreme Court just needs to ignore the threats of "The One" and rule constitutionally. Let the chips fall where they may. Obama will find out we do not live in a vacuum here.

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Obama's become the all time champion of bypassing the Congress and acting as a dictator. He's even "recess appointed" when Congress WASN'T IN RECESS.

If a Republican did any of the stuff that Obama is doing, all you hypocritical rabid-lefties would be squealing like pigs stuck in barbed wire.

The Supreme Court just needs to ignore the threats of "The One" and rule constitutionally. Let the chips fall where they may. Obama will find out we do not live in a vacuum here.

President Obama is far and away the least likely president to invoke the recess appointment power; Presidents Obama 29, George W Bush 171, Bill Clinton 139, George H W Bush 77 and Ronald Reagan 243.



President Obama Has Made Far Fewer Recess Appointments Than Any Recent President | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/04/397589/president-obama-has-made-far-fewer-recess-appointments-than-any-recent-president/)

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Richie,
I really like the metaphor of pigs squealing like they were caught in barb wire.

I did not get any reply, though, about your specific reason why you are against the Executive Order concerning international trade standards. Usually, the conservative element is for relaxing government regulations and for assisting the ease of manufacturers which would lead to more jobs.

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FIRST of all, the "dictator" term, I believe was the choice of the write and not the poster.

Now, this executive order has to be kept in context....it is not the first executive order but each takes authority away from either the people or the US government.

It is suggested that this might be a good thing, but not sure that is the subject since countries have always signed agreements such as this with OTHER INDIVIDUAL countries, and not a flat out statment for all countries.

Now, this is ONE executive order....several recent ones include one concerning making it easier for the federal government to take private property.." In March, Obama signed an unnumbered Executive Order which provides the Federal government the power to confiscate land, infrastructure, and human resources in both peacetime, and during a declared crisis. One month later, the President issued an additional Executive Order which allows the government to nationalize, and take control of all natural gas resources."

Obama signs new Executive Order for U.S. to follow global economic regulations - National Finance Examiner | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-signs-new-executive-order-for-us-to-follow-global-economic-regulations)

The following quote is from the link above...

"Every day, more and more economic sovereignty is being signed away by the Obama Administration, with the intention of facilitating a new global economic system whereby the American people and American businesses no longer have the right of due process in the US legal system, but instead are bound under international law and regulation. This new Executive Order signed by President Obama on May 1st is another move towards global governance, and the loss of economic sovereignty for the citizens of the United States."

You can debate all you want about the plus and minus of trying to become part of a single economic system but having certain rights (you can argue all you want again how about you feel about that)...but having economie rights taken away by executive orders.

There has been no discussion, no press conferences, the President just signed them away with no conversation with congress.

This action alone is bothersome......and while the below does not directly refer to this thread...it is also bothersome to me....

"President Obama has held just one full length, multi-topic, solo press conference in the last six months, effectively abolishing the most accessible venue for American citizens to observe the thinking and learn the views of their leader.

It’s May, and the president has stood for only a single such news conference this year, a March 6 event in the briefing room. He’s had only three since last June, counting a November press conference in Hawaii that was supposed to be devoted to the just-held Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit but which veered off into other issues.

Nor does Obama generally allow questioning during brief appearances at the White House, such as when he makes statements with foreign leaders. Previous presidents, including George W. Bush, routinely took a couple of questions on the topic of the day at such gatherings."

Obama Abolishes the Press Conference | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier (http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2012/05/04/obama-abolishes-press-conference/)

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Another link to read if you really are interested...it gives the good and bad of just the most recent executive order.....from this link...

"Increased emphasis on international regulatory cooperation could be a good thing – if its priority is to improve and maintain regulatory protections across borders. But, too often international cooperation is an excuse to water down protections to the lowest level – a move that typically hurts American workers, consumers, and environment. Our goal should be to have American safeguards represent the “gold standard” worldwide"

International Regulatory Cooperation: Will Harmonization Protect the Public or Prioritize Corporate Profits? | OMB Watch (http://www.ombwatch.org/node/12071)

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The conservatives should be glad that a Democrat president is promoting more international trade which helps manufacturers in the USA and helps to create jobs.

Manufactures in the USA, just where do you find one? OH, right, they are all in China. Guess that this EO really helps China. Nice try, B-One.

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Now, this executive order has to be kept in context....it is not the first executive order but each takes authority away from either the people or the US government.

I'm cherry picking this sentence from your very thoughtful post, because this is the only point I'm trying to make with my big government loving, dictatorial powers acquiescing, ends justify the means, rabid leftist friend, Buggy.

The President has no right to do this and many other things he's done. If it were a Republican President doing this Buggy would again be "squealing like a pig stuck in barbed wire" (since he liked that phrase, I repeated it)

The President does not have the right to use "executive powers" in this manner.

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I'm cherry picking this sentence from your very thoughtful post, because this is the only point I'm trying to make with my big government loving, dictatorial powers acquiescing, ends justify the means, rabid leftist friend, Buggy.

The President has no right to do this and many other things he's done. If it were a Republican President doing this Buggy would again be "squealing like a pig stuck in barbed wire" (since he liked that phrase, I repeated it)

The President does not have the right to use "executive powers" in this manner.

Frankly RICH.....other Presidents have used this means, but I find the subject matter of these executive orders to really attack a lot of our fundamentals and are basically unannounced to the american people with some sort of explanation.

For example Bush used this means to do quite a bit in the arena of security and as I reviewed them, they were pretty much internal and certainly gave nothing away to "partners"...ie. other countries.

I might also add that this is just another of those areas where Obama, the candidate just railed on and on and criticized Bush for issuing just one of them.

To me, anyway, the subject matter is so basic to this country, to do it in "silence" is a bit suspect !

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Isn't it amazing that the folks from other countries can see through his intentions while the American people follow blindly?

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Isn't it amazing that the folks from other countries can see through his intentions while the American people follow blindly?

Great observation !!

I think he and his folks count on that !!! His followers are more interested in Romney's success than where the country is going !

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Isn't it amazing that the folks from other countries can see through his intentions while the American people follow blindly?

getdul981: You are spot on. Three blind mice three blind mice see how they run....they all ran after the farmer's wife who cut off their tails with a carving knife.... Perhaps that is why Englnd nd Canada have such a clear picture as to who this guy really is and what he is up to.

Moral of the story don't follow blindly