Something about Mitt you may not know...

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Mitt Romney takes a lot of flack because of all of the money he has earned. Here is a side of the man you won't hear about in the political attack ads.

This article can be verified at snopes.com: Romney Business Partner Daughter Search (http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/search.asp)

Whether you like Romney or not, this story is amazing. I hope the Republican Party is still the party of family values and character.

Sometimes, this facet of Romney's personality isn't so apparent. In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared. She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was and Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay's daughter. Romney set up a command center at the LaGuardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search. He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York, and asked them to help find his friend's missing daughter. Romney's accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper.

Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could, prostitutes, drug addicts, anyone. That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her. As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose. Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney's former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter's life, saying, "It was the most amazing thing, and I'll never forget this to the day I die."

So, here's my epiphany: Mitt Romney simply can't help himself. He sees a problem, and his mind immediately sets to work solving it, sometimes consciously, and sometimes not-so-consciously. He doesn't do it for self-aggrandizement, or for personal gain. He does it because that's just how he's wired.

Many people are unaware of the fact that when Romney was asked by his old employer, Bill Bain, to come back to Bain & Company as CEO to rescue the firm from bankruptcy, Romney left Bain Capital to work at Bain & Company for an annual salary of one dollar. When Romney went to the rescue of the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, he accepted no salary for three years, and wouldn't use an expense account. He also accepted no salary as Governor of Massachusetts.

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I do not recall anyone saying the Mitt was a person of bad character. High school incidents of 45 years ago are usually meaningless as a point in someone's character.

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I do not recall anyone saying the Mitt was a person of bad character. High school incidents of 45 years ago are usually meaningless as a point in someone's character.

One of your cohorts on here posted that it showed his character !!!

"It's a matter of determining what his character is." in discussing the 45 year old instance

And then YOUR OWN quote on this subject...."Attempt to discredit the President when your candidate has already been totally discredited does not work."

Or this one from another...."Speaks to his character."

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Double check that story as it seems exaggerated. Some of the friends of the girl who "went missing" says she was actually never in any kind of danger.

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Double check that story as it seems exaggerated. Some of the friends of the girl who "went missing" says she was actually never in any kind of danger.

Ok...so SNOPES now goes down the tubes...the oft used site cannot now be trusted it seems......

AND while admonishing those of us who have given credit to the President, but still totally disagree with where he is taking us.....

PLEASE discredit anything good about Romney....THAT is the thing to do.


The party way

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Ok...so SNOPES now goes down the tubes...the oft used site cannot now be trusted it seems......

AND while admonishing those of us who have given credit to the President, but still totally disagree with where he is taking us.....

PLEASE discredit anything good about Romney....THAT is the thing to do.


The party way

Check your facts. Snopes is just a couple in Los Angeles-- the Mikkelsons-- who post links to stories after they Google it for authenticity. Anyone can do that!

MITT?S RUNAWAY TALE - The Daily (http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/04/16/041612-news-romney-missing-teen-gay-nestel-1-4)

"But several acquaintances of the teen who knew her well at the time and have not spoken publicly before told The Daily a different story: one of a rebellious adolescent in a moment of high-spirited escapism who hid from her parents in relative safety in an upscale New Jersey town.

And they credited the group of new friends she made during her disappearance, including a boyfriend, as the ones who ultimately encouraged Melissa Gay — daughter of Romney’s colleague at private equity firm Bain Capital — to head home to her panicked family.

"'Did Mitt Romney ‘save’ this girl? No,' said Doug Becker, the then-boyfriend and now a 32-year-old pastor in the same town of Rockaway, N.J. 'But I do think what spurred her going home was the kind of coverage it was getting, and I think [Romney] was pretty responsible for that.'” From above linked The Daily article.

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Check your facts. Snopes is just a couple in Los Angeles-- the Mikkelsons-- who post links to stories after they Google it for authenticity. Anyone can do that!

MITT?S RUNAWAY TALE - The Daily (http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/04/16/041612-news-romney-missing-teen-gay-nestel-1-4)

Ok...and your point is WHAT ???? He just should have known that ?

"The story is spellbinding and there’s no debate that Romney’s quick and resolute action helped locate the girl — but The Daily has learned that her life was never in danger, as many retellings have suggested."

You folks want to discredit this man so badly it is incredible...some folks are really good folks...you dont attack his policies..you attack the MAN....that is what is so sad....for days the MAN has been attacked. Today one of your cohorts mentioned his religion again...you people are amazing..you will NOT discuss issues...you call racism....and you attack this man....how low ~!

What is your point in bringing this up except to attack the man...quite low...quite low

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Ok...and your point is WHAT ???? He just should have known that ?

"The story is spellbinding and there’s no debate that Romney’s quick and resolute action helped locate the girl — but The Daily has learned that her life was never in danger, as many retellings have suggested."

You folks want to discredit this man so badly it is incredible...some folks are really good folks...you dont attack his policies..you attack the MAN....that is what is so sad....for days the MAN has been attacked. Today one of your cohorts mentioned his religion again...you people are amazing..you will NOT discuss issues...you call racism....and you attack this man....how low ~!

What is your point in bringing this up except to attack the man...quite low...quite low

How am I attacking the man? I am trying to get at the facts of this story about Mitt Romney. A point that has been slammed in again and again about President Barack Obama's "vetting". Why should not Mitt Romney's stories also be vetted?

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How am I attacking the man? I am trying to get at the facts of this story about Mitt Romney. A point that has been slammed in again and again about President Barack Obama's "vetting". Why should not Mitt Romney's stories also be vetted?

How about we do the President at the same time, but you guys will not allow that...it is racist dont you know !! It is tripe.....made up....too long ago....does not matter...all that stuff.

BUT you will question not the motivation of the man but somehow twist the end result and call that vetting.....trust me there are words for that but it is not vetting.

And your response as to why you even posted this was to VETT....by not questioning what he did, but something he didnt know....which shows WHAT ABOUT HIM ??????????

You people are content to destroy the MAN....question every act of his PERSONAL life...his HIGH SCHOOL, ANY good thing to be questioned.

I am at a loss for words to describe this.

You actually call this vetting.you actually feel comfortable being of this mind.

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How about we do the President at the same time, but you guys will not allow that...it is racist dont you know !! It is tripe.....made up....too long ago....does not matter...all that stuff.

BUT you will question not the motivation of the man but somehow twist the end result and call that vetting.....trust me there are words for that but it is not vetting.

And your response as to why you even posted this was to VETT....by not questioning what he did, but something he didnt know....which shows WHAT ABOUT HIM ??????????

You people are content to destroy the MAN....question every act of his PERSONAL life...his HIGH SCHOOL, ANY good thing to be questioned.

I am at a loss for words to describe this.

You actually call this vetting.you actually feel comfortable being of this mind.

I find Wikipedia more reliable than Snopes.com on getting at facts about some person because they actually put together a large number of sources for where they get this information.

Romney has accomplished a lot of magnificent things but he never "saved the girl" alluded to in the Snopes article.

Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney)

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HA!!!; how many times have the lefties like Taltarzac pointed to a Snopes link to prop up their point of view and now I find out "SNOPES IS CRAP!!"

I don't ever want to see Snopes referenced again.

This forum gets funnier and funnier.

You guys are killing me.

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there will never be an answer to the question regarding the vetting of Obama. I make it simple he was not vetted.
And I make a simple suggestion to the Obama supporters...everything you want to know about Romney, make sure you know the same about Obama.

We already know more about Romney the candidate than we do about Obama. And like some others I don't get how Obama supporters just don't seem to care about his past while out of the other side of their face they need to know everything about Romney.

There are no Van Jones types or black panther types in the Romney background or the present. And I don't get the Obama supporters not caring about these types with a past none of us would want let alone our
POTUS. Why does it not matter?

btk

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HA!!!; how many times have the lefties like Taltarzac pointed to a Snopes link to prop up their point of view and now I find out "SNOPES IS CRAP!!"

I don't ever want to see Snopes referenced again.

This forum gets funnier and funnier.

You guys are killing me.

I never said Snopes is ****. I do use Snopes too but you should use other stuff as well. I have mentioned on some other threads on TOTV that I do not hold Snopes in the high regard that others do. Mainly I do not like Snopes.com because of their message boards in which various posters make fun of people stupid enough to e-mail the Mikkelsons for help. The Mikkelsons are the couple behind Snopes.com which they fund through advertisers. snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages (http://www.snopes.com/) Politics - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22) When tinfoil hats aren't enough - Page 50 - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3750&page=50)

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I never said Snopes is ****. I do use Snopes too but you should use other stuff as well. I have mentioned on some other threads on TOTV that I do not hold Snopes in the high regard that others do. Mainly I do not like Snopes.com because of their message boards in which various posters make fun of people stupid enough to e-mail the Mikkelsons for help. The Mikkelsons are the couple behind Snopes.com which they fund through advertisers. snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages (http://www.snopes.com/) Politics - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22) When tinfoil hats aren't enough - Page 50 - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3750&page=50)

and you think that wikipedia should be held in high regard? sheesh!

"Wikipedia (i/ˌwɪkɨˈpiːdi.ə/ or i/ˌwɪkiˈpiːdi.ə/ WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə) is a multilingual, web-based, free-content encyclopedia project based on an openly editable model. The name "Wikipedia" is a portmanteau of the words wiki (a technology for creating collaborative websites, from the Hawaiian word wiki, meaning "quick") and encyclopedia. Wikipedia's articles provide links to guide the user to related pages with additional information.

Wikipedia is written collaboratively by largely anonymous Internet volunteers who write without pay. Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles (except in certain cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism). Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or with their real identity, if they choose.

The fundamental principles by which Wikipedia operates are the Five pillars. The Wikipedia community has developed many policies and guidelines to improve the encyclopedia; however, it is not a formal requirement to be familiar with them before contributing."
Wikipedia:About - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About)

i hardly think that wikipedia should even be referred to as a resource!

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These two articles are from the Boston Globe in 1996. (Am posting the texts of them because they're so old that a subscription to an archive service is needed to see the entirely...but MA Right to Life posted them in full.)

I see NO reason to discredit Romney and the Gay family for these accounts of the desperate situation they were in.

And by the way, even if it were found out later that the girl had been safe in a home in NJ, the fact that she was missing to her parents and they didn't know whether she was dead or alive or alive and being tortured is every parent's worst nightmare.

Most people could only WISH to have a friend as loyal and dedicated as Mitt Romney and partners who did this search:

The Boston Globe

July 12, 1996, Friday, City Edition

Investment firm shuts to help find girl; 50 employees fly to NYC in search for teen-ager

By Shirley Leung, Globe Staff

When Bain Capital Inc. executives learned the 14-year-old daughter of a business partner was missing, they responded by closing the Boston company's office and flew about 50 employees to New York City to look for the girl themselves.

Yesterday, in their first day of searching, they pounded the pavement,plastered the city with 200,000 fliers and quizzed teen-agers at concerts and parks.

But as of late last night, Melissa Gay was still nowhere to be found.

"Our children are what life is all about," said W. Mitt Romney, founder and managing partner of Bain Capital. "Everything else takes a back seat."

Bob Gay, one of 12 managing directors of Bain Capital, last saw his daughter Saturday. The family lives in Ridgefield, Conn., and Melissa had been dropped off at the local tennis club around 3:30 that afternoon.

When her mother, Lynette, called the club around 6 p.m. to see if Melissa had finished playing, club staff said she wasn't there. Lynette and Bob Gay assumed their daughter had grabbed a bite to eat with her tennis partner.

Bob Gay waited until 2 that night. His daughter never came home. "That's when we knew something was not right," he said in a telephone interview last night from New York City.

They called all her friends and then called police. They soon learned that Melissa had hopped a train with several friends to New York Saturday night to catch the Rock Rave-Fantasia II concert in Manhattan.

Her friends returned to Connecticut without Melissa sometime Sunday. Bob Gay doesn't believe his daughter ran away, because she didn't take any clothes and had only $ 10 with her. "I believe she fully intended to go to the concert without telling us, but not stay there in the city," he said.

Ridgefield and New York police are working together. Hospitals have been checked and arrest records canvassed, Gay has been told.

New York police said her friends last saw her at a party at 11 a.m. Sunday near the Whitestone Bridge, which connects Queens and the Bronx.

Last night, officials from both departments would not comment on the case, except to say that the investigation is continuing. But Bob Gay just couldn't sit back and watch.

On Wednesday he walked the streets of Manhattan looking for his blonde daughter, who was last seen wearing a blue or red-striped shirt and baggy tan pants.

Gay, who has worked for Bain for eight years, kept his ordeal to himself, confiding only in Romney. But Wednesday, Romney decided to tell the other 11 managing directors, and they decided that finding a missing daughter was more important than operating a $ 1 billion investment firm.

The executives decided not only to give their time but their money, paying all expenses for the search for the fifth of Gay's seven children.

That night, 16 employees flew to New York, turned a function room of the Laguardia Marriott Hotel into a "war room," and got printing giant R. R. Donnelly to print 200,000 fliers with a color picture of Melissa. They also hired a private investigator and set up an 800-number hot line.

Another 40 employees caught an early morning shuttle yesterday, and later were joined by about 250 colleagues from other Wall Street firms, including Goldman Sachs, Price Waterhouse and Bankers Trust.

"Most of us have children," said Stephen Pagliuca, 44, a Bain managing director with four children. "That's the most important thing in our lives. It wasn't even a question. We just decided to do it."

Anyone with information on Melissa Gay can call 1-800-783-7454, extension 1111.

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Then ... about six months later.

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The Boston Globe

December 8, 1996, Sunday, City Edition

Bain Capital recalls NY search

BYLINE: By Peter S. Canellos, Globe Staff

Last week, the partners of Boston's Bain Capital Inc. drew up their annual list of accomplishments: Number one was the week they spent last July combing Manhattan in search of Melissa Gay, the missing 14-year-old daughter of one of the partners.

"It really overshadowed everything we did from a money standpoint," said Mitt Romney, the Bain Capital founder who won the 1994 Massachusetts Republican Senate nomination partly on his reputation as a venture capital wiz. "The days and nights spent looking for Missy Gay were more valuable than some financial home runs that made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. I mean, money is just money."

The 15 Bain Capital partners chartered a plane to New York to search for the missing youngster among the thousands of abandoned children and runaways who congregate in Manhattan.

They didn't find her themselves. She turned up in Montville, N.J. The Associated Press reported at the time that she was dazed from a disorienting dose of a drug taken at a rock concert.

Now back in school and fully recovered, Melissa and her parents are doing well, Romney said. The partners, however, are still taking stock of their visit to the dark corners of New York, putting up posters and talking to runaways outside seedy nightclubs and peep shows. Romney said he can't escape some of the images he carries with him from his week in the New York underworld.

"It was a shocker," he said. "The number of lost souls was astounding."

Romney said one partner still talks about a runaway he spoke with in search of information about Melissa.

"The girl asked, 'Why are you looking for her?' and he said, 'Because her parents miss her,' " Romney said. "She replied, 'I wish my parents
missed me like that.' "

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I never said Snopes is ****. I do use Snopes too but you should use other stuff as well. I have mentioned on some other threads on TOTV that I do not hold Snopes in the high regard that others do. Mainly I do not like Snopes.com because of their message boards in which various posters make fun of people stupid enough to e-mail the Mikkelsons for help. The Mikkelsons are the couple behind Snopes.com which they fund through advertisers. snopes.com: Urban Legends Reference Pages (http://www.snopes.com/) Politics - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=22) When tinfoil hats aren't enough - Page 50 - snopes.com (http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3750&page=50)

Now your new source of truth is Wikipedia. Are you aware that anyone can edit anything on Wikipedia? I sometimes try to look up factual information on the site, but never anything that is even slightly political. Using Wikipedia for this is at best naive.

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Now your new source of truth is Wikipedia. Are you aware that anyone can edit anything on Wikipedia? I sometimes try to look up factual information on the site, but never anything that is even slightly political. Using Wikipedia for this is at best naive.

False and misleading about me and wikipedia. I use wikipedia as a started point. The Note section of Wikipedia is where you can get at the facts of various issues. Help:Footnotes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes) Surviving Wikipedia: | American Association of School Librarians (AASL) (http://www.ala.org/aasl/aaslpubsandjournals/knowledgequest/kqwebarchives/v33/335achterman)

Not anyone can edit Wikipedia either. Try editing Wikipedia yourself sometime. I doubt if you will get anywhere.

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These two articles are from the Boston Globe in 1996. (Am posting the texts of them because they're so old that a subscription to an archive service is needed to see the entirely...but MA Right to Life posted them in full.)

I see NO reason to discredit Romney and the Gay family for these accounts of the desperate situation they were in.

And by the way, even if it were found out later that the girl had been safe in a home in NJ, the fact that she was missing to her parents and they didn't know whether she was dead or alive or alive and being tortured is every parent's worst nightmare.

Most people could only WISH to have a friend as loyal and dedicated as Mitt Romney and partners who did this search:

The Boston Globe

July 12, 1996, Friday, City Edition

Investment firm shuts to help find girl; 50 employees fly to NYC in search for teen-ager

By Shirley Leung, Globe Staff

When Bain Capital Inc. executives learned the 14-year-old daughter of a business partner was missing, they responded by closing the Boston company's office and flew about 50 employees to New York City to look for the girl themselves.

Yesterday, in their first day of searching, they pounded the pavement,plastered the city with 200,000 fliers and quizzed teen-agers at concerts and parks.

But as of late last night, Melissa Gay was still nowhere to be found.

"Our children are what life is all about," said W. Mitt Romney, founder and managing partner of Bain Capital. "Everything else takes a back seat."

Bob Gay, one of 12 managing directors of Bain Capital, last saw his daughter Saturday. The family lives in Ridgefield, Conn., and Melissa had been dropped off at the local tennis club around 3:30 that afternoon.

When her mother, Lynette, called the club around 6 p.m. to see if Melissa had finished playing, club staff said she wasn't there. Lynette and Bob Gay assumed their daughter had grabbed a bite to eat with her tennis partner.

Bob Gay waited until 2 that night. His daughter never came home. "That's when we knew something was not right," he said in a telephone interview last night from New York City.

They called all her friends and then called police. They soon learned that Melissa had hopped a train with several friends to New York Saturday night to catch the Rock Rave-Fantasia II concert in Manhattan.

Her friends returned to Connecticut without Melissa sometime Sunday. Bob Gay doesn't believe his daughter ran away, because she didn't take any clothes and had only $ 10 with her. "I believe she fully intended to go to the concert without telling us, but not stay there in the city," he said.

Ridgefield and New York police are working together. Hospitals have been checked and arrest records canvassed, Gay has been told.

New York police said her friends last saw her at a party at 11 a.m. Sunday near the Whitestone Bridge, which connects Queens and the Bronx.

Last night, officials from both departments would not comment on the case, except to say that the investigation is continuing. But Bob Gay just couldn't sit back and watch.

On Wednesday he walked the streets of Manhattan looking for his blonde daughter, who was last seen wearing a blue or red-striped shirt and baggy tan pants.

Gay, who has worked for Bain for eight years, kept his ordeal to himself, confiding only in Romney. But Wednesday, Romney decided to tell the other 11 managing directors, and they decided that finding a missing daughter was more important than operating a $ 1 billion investment firm.

The executives decided not only to give their time but their money, paying all expenses for the search for the fifth of Gay's seven children.

That night, 16 employees flew to New York, turned a function room of the Laguardia Marriott Hotel into a "war room," and got printing giant R. R. Donnelly to print 200,000 fliers with a color picture of Melissa. They also hired a private investigator and set up an 800-number hot line.

Another 40 employees caught an early morning shuttle yesterday, and later were joined by about 250 colleagues from other Wall Street firms, including Goldman Sachs, Price Waterhouse and Bankers Trust.

"Most of us have children," said Stephen Pagliuca, 44, a Bain managing director with four children. "That's the most important thing in our lives. It wasn't even a question. We just decided to do it."

Anyone with information on Melissa Gay can call 1-800-783-7454, extension 1111.

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Then ... about six months later.

-------------------

The Boston Globe

December 8, 1996, Sunday, City Edition

Bain Capital recalls NY search

BYLINE: By Peter S. Canellos, Globe Staff

Last week, the partners of Boston's Bain Capital Inc. drew up their annual list of accomplishments: Number one was the week they spent last July combing Manhattan in search of Melissa Gay, the missing 14-year-old daughter of one of the partners.

"It really overshadowed everything we did from a money standpoint," said Mitt Romney, the Bain Capital founder who won the 1994 Massachusetts Republican Senate nomination partly on his reputation as a venture capital wiz. "The days and nights spent looking for Missy Gay were more valuable than some financial home runs that made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. I mean, money is just money."

The 15 Bain Capital partners chartered a plane to New York to search for the missing youngster among the thousands of abandoned children and runaways who congregate in Manhattan.

They didn't find her themselves. She turned up in Montville, N.J. The Associated Press reported at the time that she was dazed from a disorienting dose of a drug taken at a rock concert.

Now back in school and fully recovered, Melissa and her parents are doing well, Romney said. The partners, however, are still taking stock of their visit to the dark corners of New York, putting up posters and talking to runaways outside seedy nightclubs and peep shows. Romney said he can't escape some of the images he carries with him from his week in the New York underworld.

"It was a shocker," he said. "The number of lost souls was astounding."

Romney said one partner still talks about a runaway he spoke with in search of information about Melissa.

"The girl asked, 'Why are you looking for her?' and he said, 'Because her parents miss her,' " Romney said. "She replied, 'I wish my parents
missed me like that.' "

Mass Pro-Life (http://www.massprolife.org/)

Of course, parents suffer when their kids run off for whatever reason. Mitt Romney is to be commended for using his employees to search for the kid of another employee after the kid went missing. All employees would be lucky to have such an employer.

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Gosh reading the previous 18 posts was like watching a Sienfeld rerun. It was all about "nothing." I truly don't wish to be judgmental here but why do otherwise intelligent people allow such distractions. I am for better or worse a bottom line guy. Perhaps some could accuse me of shallow thinking. But botom line for me is that when one compares Romney v Obama, whatis it that becomes evident to you. I have made my discoveries and hands down Romney instills more confidence and trust that he has an agenda that will bring back the economy, reinforce family values, protect our nation and restore America to its rightful place as a world leader. He is solid, ethical, thoughtful, intelligent, a visionary, measured, sophicated and clears away any emotion before making his decisions. This father-like figure is someone I will support.

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But botom line for me is that when one compares Romney v Obama, whatis it that becomes evident to you. I have made my discoveries and hands down Romney instills more confidence and trust that he has an agenda that will bring back the economy, reinforce family values, protect our nation and restore America to its rightful place as a world leader. He is solid, ethical, thoughtful, intelligent, a visionary, measured, sophicated and clears away any emotion before making his decisions. This father-like figure is someone I will support.

Very well-said and I agree with you 100%...thank you for saying what I truly believe wholeheartedly.:thumbup:

[Guest]

Gosh reading the previous 18 posts was like watching a Sienfeld rerun. It was all about "nothing." I truly don't wish to be judgmental here but why do otherwise intelligent people allow such distractions. I am for better or worse a bottom line guy. Perhaps some could accuse me of shallow thinking. But botom line for me is that when one compares Romney v Obama, whatis it that becomes evident to you. I have made my discoveries and hands down Romney instills more confidence and trust that he has an agenda that will bring back the economy, reinforce family values, protect our nation and restore America to its rightful place as a world leader. He is solid, ethical, thoughtful, intelligent, a visionary, measured, sophicated and clears away any emotion before making his decisions. This father-like figure is someone I will support.

Well said rubicon.

[Guest]

Gosh reading the previous 18 posts was like watching a Sienfeld rerun. It was all about "nothing." I truly don't wish to be judgmental here but why do otherwise intelligent people allow such distractions. I am for better or worse a bottom line guy. Perhaps some could accuse me of shallow thinking. But botom line for me is that when one compares Romney v Obama, whatis it that becomes evident to you. I have made my discoveries and hands down Romney instills more confidence and trust that he has an agenda that will bring back the economy, reinforce family values, protect our nation and restore America to its rightful place as a world leader. He is solid, ethical, thoughtful, intelligent, a visionary, measured, sophicated and clears away any emotion before making his decisions. This father-like figure is someone I will support.

Agree and nice to see someone say it on here. I have been in this mans corner from day one and am proud of it.

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Rommeny's Mormon faith is another of those faux distraction. Again bottom line for me is that while I do not have to agree with the Mormon faith I have come to learn that when all is said and done through their acts of charity family values ,etc Mormons leave the world better than as they found it.

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Rommeny's Mormon faith is another of those faux distraction. Again bottom line for me is that while I do not have to agree with the Mormon faith I have come to learn that when all is said and done through their acts of charity family values ,etc Mormons leave the world better than as they found it.

I will take his version of a faithful man over several of his previous running mates. He will run the country and not try to run our personal lives.

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1) Snopes does a LOT more than just 'googling stories'. In many cases, the Mikkelsons outline the steps they take to confirm/debunk stories.

2) It's not at odds to say that the girl was never in any danger - but Mitt and his partner DID NOT KNOW THAT at the time. As far as they were concerned, the girl was missing.

3) The point that others make is that Mitt is VERY charitable and giving - for people in HIS circle. His stated desire to cut services for others *appears* to show two sides of Mitt. If you're in his circle, he's an undying ally and friend. If not, well, you're on your own.

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1) Snopes does a LOT more than just 'googling stories'. In many cases, the Mikkelsons outline the steps they take to confirm/debunk stories.

2) It's not at odds to say that the girl was never in any danger - but Mitt and his partner DID NOT KNOW THAT at the time. As far as they were concerned, the girl was missing.

3) The point that others make is that Mitt is VERY charitable and giving - for people in HIS circle. His stated desire to cut services for others *appears* to show two sides of Mitt. If you're in his circle, he's an undying ally and friend. If not, well, you're on your own.

Number 3 is also the point of the article in Vanity Fair too. This was the artcile on the Dark Side of Mitt Romney. The Dark Side of Mitt Romney | Politics | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/02/mitt-romney-201202)