Anyone read, "90 Minutes in Heaven"?

[Villages PL]

A friend of mine bought a used copy and liked it a lot. So she gave it to me to read. I have about 3 more chapters to go. It's interesting, although, not the type of book I would usually be attracted to. I may have more comments after I finish it.

:)

[villager]

Yes, I did read it and found it amazing. I was first introduced to the book by a total stranger sitting in the seat next to me on an airplane. He had just finished reading the book and was so taken by it, he needed to talk about it. I went out and bought it the next day. I've given it to a couple friends to read. One friend didn't believe in such things, but after she read the book, it made her re-evaluate things. The book sure does make you think!

[rhredd1654]

Yes, I did read it and found it amazing.

ditto

[shcisamax]

guess i'm off to the library tomorrow.

[wendyquat]

Enjoyed hearing the author, Don Piper, speak at New Covenant United Methodist Church a few months ago!

[Avista]

Enjoyed hearing the author, Don Piper, speak at New Covenant United Methodist Church a few months ago!

That's right and it was a full house. if you missed it Google New Covenant United Methodist Church, The Villages, go to their web site, Then click to hear sermons. The is a video of Don Pipers complete talk

[villager]

We saw Mr. Piper speak, too. It was a great message.

[Villages PL]

On the last page (205) Don Piper said: "Dick Onerecker prayed me back to life-...."

Doesn't he ever stop to think if it worked for him it could work for others? Nowhere in the book does he ever contemplate this possibility. Why?

How many toddlers drown in swimming pools every year? Why not at least try to pray them back to life?

A friend of my family died at age 45 from a sudden-death heart attack. He left behind a wife and kids. It might not happen often at that age, but it does happen. Why not pray these people back to life? Blocked arteries can then be treated in various ways.

There are all kinds of situations where this would be helpful. Does Piper consider them all to be better off dead? Why wouldn't he, or his congregation, at least want to try this. If it works, it would certainly prove that what happened to him was real. Of course, there's a risk if they can't duplicate it, it might destroy his story....his dream of heaven? That may be too big a risk for him to take.

Any comments?

[MLBellis]

very good book, try "Heaven is for real" also good book!!

[Carmpat]

I read the book twice. Since losing my parents, I became fasinated with the world beyond. I read most of Sylvia Brown books. Then I started to watch the TV show Medium. They say there is no such thing as heaven that the dead live in another world 3 feet above us in another dimension. Every so often I find pennies all through my house and I know that someone came to visit me. My daughter in law just went to a party where there was a medium. She had to pay $100 to see if she could contact her Aunt, Uncle and Grandmother who just past within the last 6 months, however, her dad's grandparents came through instead along with 5 other relatives that turned out to be on my side of the family although, they did not speak at all. I also started watching John Edwards show. My cousin, Mary and my son, Paul have a sixth sense. They feel spirits around them all the time. My father constantly takes his fingers and clicks my son's forehead. I think my mother comes through and touches my hair all the time. It annoys the heck out of me. I felt very sorry for the man who died for 90 minutes. What he had to go through. I don't know why God made him suffer so much. What I wonder is if God died on the cross for us why do people suffer for years and years? Why doesn't God make them better? God did not suffer as long as some people do today.

[NotGolfer]

I haven't read this particular book...but I did read "Heaven Is For Real" and I highly recommend it! It's very easy to read and it also was an encouragement for me.

[Taltarzac725]

That's right and it was a full house. if you missed it Google New Covenant United Methodist Church, The Villages, go to their web site, Then click to hear sermons. The is a video of Don Pipers complete talk

Thanks, I will check that out some time.

I read a book last year that was very encouraging about evidence of the afterlife. Ghost Hunters (http://deborahblum.com/Ghost_Hunters.html)

[pooh]

On the last page (205) Don Piper said: "Dick Onerecker prayed me back to life-...."

Doesn't he ever stop to think if it worked for him it could work for others? Nowhere in the book does he ever contemplate this possibility. Why?

How many toddlers drown in swimming pools every year? Why not at least try to pray them back to life?

A friend of my family died at age 45 from a sudden-death heart attack. He left behind a wife and kids. It might not happen often at that age, but it does happen. Why not pray these people back to life? Blocked arteries can then be treated in various ways.

There are all kinds of situations where this would be helpful. Does Piper consider them all to be better off dead? Why wouldn't he, or his congregation, at least want to try this. If it works, it would certainly prove that what happened to him was real. Of course, there's a risk if they can't duplicate it, it might destroy his story....his dream of heaven? That may be too big a risk for him to take.

Any comments?

You bring up a point made by many...some are non-believers, others are believers, but question, WHY??? For those who are believers, well, they answer, it is the will of God that prevails. For those who are non-believers, well, it sort of gives proof to them that God does not exist.

Only when one dies will they know for certain if an afterlife exists. If you go first, let those left behind know what's going on. I have a deal with a person in Australia...he is a non-believer...if he dies first and heaven exists, he's going to be amazed....he doesn't have to let me know. If I go first, I'll be there to meet him when he arrives. I'll have a carnation in my hat so he can easily find me. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.... ;) He's a very nice gentleman and I look forward to meeting him....he said he'd bring candy... ;)

[rubicon]

I have long given up that struggle concerning the existence of Heaven. I have lived a good honest life, was a good husband , father and friend. I helped many people along my life path. Sooo if heaven does exist then I will join my ancestors. However if he does not then becaused I died I can no longer think and if I can not think then I am not.

The End

[NotGolfer]

Bridge To God (http://www.mylifebridge.com/bridgetogod)

Something to consider.......

[pooh]

Not to get off track from the original post, yes I've read the book and many others discussing similar situations. These reads always make me feel good, BUT, one might not want to necessarily assume that ALL who write such books, write the truth. I'm not stating that they are making up stuff, it's just that in some instances, there may be a very physiological reason for certain experiences.

Does this mean I'm a non-believer. Nope.....it just means that anyone can write a book. Do I doubt this particular book? No, but still, I question.

[Taltarzac725]

Not to get off track from the original post, yes I've read the book and many others discussing similar situations. These reads always make me feel good, BUT, one might not want to necessarily assume that ALL who write such books, write the truth. I'm not stating that they are making up stuff, it's just that in some instances, there may be very biological reasons for certain experiences.

Does this mean I'm a non-believer. Nope.....it just means that anyone can write a book. Do I doubt this particular book? No, but still, I question.

Check out the Blume book. It is about a group of intellectuals looking into life after death. Some of these intellectuals are quite sceptical about facts they uncover. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/books/review/20Gottlieb.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

[pooh]

Check out the Blume book. It is about a group of intellectuals looking into life after death. Some of these intellectuals are quite sceptical about facts they uncover. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/20/books/review/20Gottlieb.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Might be an interesting read, Tal. After being a part of a message board
run by and set up by skeptics, for discussions concerning the likelihood or not of an afterlife, magic, ghosts, psychics, visitations from deceased, hauntings and alien abductions....:).....one recognizes that questioning is a GOOD thing....:duck: no matter what....lol.
P

[yogalover]

Yes! "Heaven is for Real" was awesome too! I was so amazed by both of them.

[Carl in Tampa]

I am friends with Dr. Paul Enns, an internationally know and respected Christian theologian. He teaches theology at the seminary level and is an associate pastor at a major Baptist church. There is an extensive list of books that he has written, including the Moody Handbook of Theology, to be found on the Amazon website.

Dr. Enns does not recommend 90 Minutes in Heaven because it is based upon subjective experience with no way to substantiate the claims. He recommends Heaven by Randy Alcorn, also to be found on the Amazon website, as being Biblically based, with all of the descriptions of Heaven based upon specific portions of the Bible. There is an intriguing section dealing with the question of whether or not we will have pets in Heaven. I have read Heaven and agree with Dr. Enns. Dr. Enns became deeply involved in a study of Heaven upon the sudden and untimely death of his beloved wife, and he has also written a book on the subject which is also listed on Amazon.

Dr. Enns teaches seminary courses, open to degree seeking and non-degree students at the campus of Idlewild Baptist Church in Lutz, (north of Tampa) Florida.

[MLBellis]

another good book to read is "Do Dead people watch you shower?" by Concetta Bertoldi.... It is a book full of questions from the living and her answers from what our love ones tell her.... fast reading book...really makes you think about the other side!

[Villages PL]

Not to get off track from the original post, yes I've read the book and many others discussing similar situations. These reads always make me feel good, BUT, one might not want to necessarily assume that ALL who write such books, write the truth. I'm not stating that they are making up stuff, it's just that in some instances, there may be a very physiological reason for certain experiences.

Does this mean I'm a non-believer. Nope.....it just means that anyone can write a book. Do I doubt this particular book? No, but still, I question.

I agree, pooh. I think a lot of it has to do with selective memory and things tend to get embellished along the way. If it wasn't for that, no one would ever be able to write much of a book. All such books could be cut down to just one chapter, but instead they are too long and drawn out.

[yogalover]

Yes, they are both excellent in my opinion. They really do make you think!

[RangeWalker]

Huh? Click where for sermon? Didn't see any link like that.

[Lbmb24101]

Even better than the bk 90 min in heaven, the bk that really touched me was Betty Eady's book , her 1st book, which came out in the 1990's.
It brought me a lot of consolation when mom passed away.....
i can not remembervthe bk's title but it was fantastic
In my case, was more influential than James Paagh, John Edwards or 90 minutes