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Guest
05-21-2012, 12:50 PM
We recently had such an uproar because somebody was going to spend money showing Obama's relationship with Rev Wright. It was called unfair, racist and a lot of hateful names.

This from the Washington Post...

"Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history"

Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-mormon-faith-tangles-with-a-quirk-of-arkansas-history/2012/05/20/gIQAKHVFeU_print.html)

This is a discussion of an event, not from high school, but from 150 years ago and is aimed specifically to generate discussion of the Mormon religion.

Not saying there is anything hateful in this column, but how is it deemed appropriate to discuss Romney's religion and background and not Obama's ??

PLUS...

"NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers"

"New York Times correspondent Jodi Kantor appeared on MSNBC this morning to discuss an investigative report she did on Mitt Romney's Mormon church, his values and what his fellow worshipers say about him. "

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/21/nyt_reporter_goes_to_romneys_church_seeks_dirt_fro m_worshipers.html

I cannot see the difference !!!!!!

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:28 PM
The difference is one is a Republican and one is a Democrat.

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:29 PM
the difference is one is a republican and one is a democrat.

bingo!

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:44 PM
You have to remember you don't know what obama's religion is or even who he really is. How can you discuss something that doesn't exist . I some times think he doesn't know who he is.

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:48 PM
The MSM is biased against the Republican Party and knows it; even if they lie and say "Who us??"

Here's a story showing that the MSM has targeted Romney's wealth 13 times more than they did John Kerry when he ran against Pres. Bush, even though Kerry is richer than Romney.

Networks Target Romney (http://www.mrc.org/articles/networks-target-romneys-wealth-13-times-more-richer-sen-kerry)

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:52 PM
Seriously, what else could it be? I worked my entire life as a journalist. I started back in the days when being a journalist meant something. The last newspaper I worked for was bought by the Retirement Systems of Alabama aka union employees of the state of Alabama. This was, IMHO, the end of any journalistic integrity at the newspapers bought by cnhi. Our publishers and executive editors, the buck stop here, decision making people, had no newsroom experience whatsoever. Sorry for the rant. Back to the question.

Guest
05-21-2012, 01:54 PM
Obama has stated that Romney's religion should be off limits. It's the PAC's that run most of the attack ads. One of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever, close to the theft of the 2000 election. :(

Guest
05-21-2012, 02:35 PM
Critical to a free democracy is a free press. Critical to a free press is that their readers believe they have conducted a factual and unbiased investigation of the facts they so report. It seems this occupation like so many others is experiencing their share of unethical practioners resulting in such a lack of trust and confidence in what you read and worse yet continuing questions as to what has not been reported

Guest
05-21-2012, 02:40 PM
Obama has stated that Romney's religion should be off limits. It's the PAC's that run most of the attack ads. One of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever, close to the theft of the 2000 election. :(

WRONG!!; if you read the posts above and check out the links, the "investigation??" of Romney is shown to be by THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE WASHINGTON POST; two of the biggest media entities in the nation.

It's not the PACs we're discussing here, and it's not attack ads.

It's left wing propaganda masquerading as news, and propagated by major news organizations in a biased attack on Republicans exclusively.

Guest
05-21-2012, 03:06 PM
Seriously, what else could it be? I worked my entire life as a journalist. I started back in the days when being a journalist meant something. The last newspaper I worked for was bought by the Retirement Systems of Alabama aka union employees of the state of Alabama. This was, IMHO, the end of any journalistic integrity at the newspapers bought by cnhi. Our publishers and executive editors, the buck stop here, decision making people, had no newsroom experience whatsoever. Sorry for the rant. Back to the question.

Glad for your rant BK......I always when growing up just loved reading the newspapers but recently when you buy a newspaper, you must always be aware of that newspapers own particular slant. I read the NY Times almost daily because frankly there is a lot news in there, but then try to balance that a bit with other papers.

I really am envious of the career you had !

PS....TO STAY on topic.....I wonder about the lack of any of those drive by posters with the small uniformed quips that see life as a one way street ! I actually, as terrible as it might be hope they just unleash the super pacs on Obama. There is so much info to be shared beginning with his life in Chicago etc.

Guest
05-21-2012, 03:07 PM
Another Wright thread - sigh - but it sure is fun listeing to all the Cons whinning about the msm.

oooohhhhh ..... why can't we talk about Wright but they can talk about the Mormon church ..... booooooo hoooooooo ..... not fair ..... boooo hooooo.

Seems the Cons raised this in 2008 - I recall The Wasilla Quitta mentioning Wright at every campaign stop - worked well for the Cons in 2008, didn't it?

BTW, you can thank Ricky Sanitarium for raising Willard's Mormon faith - for most of us it means absolutely nothing.


Too many burros ......

Guest
05-21-2012, 03:14 PM
Another Wright thread - sigh - but it sure is fun listeing to all the Cons whinning about the msm.

oooohhhhh ..... why can't we talk about Wright but they can talk about the Mormon church ..... booooooo hoooooooo ..... not fair ..... boooo hooooo.

Seems the Cons raised this in 2008 - I recall The Wasilla Quitta mentioning Wright at every campaign stop - worked well for the Cons in 2008, didn't it?

BTW, you can thank Ricky Sanitarium for raising Willard's Mormon faith - for most of us it means absolutely nothing.


Too many burros ......

How in your rose colored, democratic party only glasses did you get a Wright thread out of two national news sources going after Romneys religion to the point of searching out negatives in his church.

Wow....you see the world as you want to see it with no regard to facts whatsoever.

Guest
05-21-2012, 04:27 PM
How in your rose colored, democratic party only glasses did you get a Wright thread out of two national news sources going after Romneys religion to the point of searching out negatives in his church.

Wow....you see the world as you want to see it with no regard to facts whatsoever.

It's also a lie that was being spouted by the poster you're addressing, as McCain foolishly banned, as Romney is doing so far, the mention of Rev. Wright by his campaign.

A bit of revisionism, here.

Guest
05-21-2012, 04:48 PM
WRONG!!; if you read the posts above and check out the links, the "investigation??" of Romney is shown to be by THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE WASHINGTON POST; two of the biggest media entities in the nation.

It's not the PACs we're discussing here, and it's not attack ads.

It's left wing propaganda masquerading as news, and propagated by major news organizations in a biased attack on Republicans exclusively.

Maybe I should actually read the posts before I reply......but they are so crazy-making!!! :icon_wink:

Guest
05-21-2012, 04:52 PM
Maybe I should actually read the posts before I reply......but they are so crazy-making!!! :icon_wink:

Can you add to your comments please ? And explain how this is ok under the circumstances of last week ?

Thanks

Guest
05-21-2012, 05:07 PM
We recently had such an uproar because somebody was going to spend money showing Obama's relationship with Rev Wright. It was called unfair, racist and a lot of hateful names.

This from the Washington Post...

"Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history"

Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-mormon-faith-tangles-with-a-quirk-of-arkansas-history/2012/05/20/gIQAKHVFeU_print.html)

This is a discussion of an event, not from high school, but from 150 years ago and is aimed specifically to generate discussion of the Mormon religion.

Not saying there is anything hateful in this column, but how is it deemed appropriate to discuss Romney's religion and background and not Obama's ??

PLUS...

"NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers"

"New York Times correspondent Jodi Kantor appeared on MSNBC this morning to discuss an investigative report she did on Mitt Romney's Mormon church, his values and what his fellow worshipers say about him. "

NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/21/nyt_reporter_goes_to_romneys_church_seeks_dirt_fro m_worshipers.html)

I cannot see the difference !!!!!!

Writing about Mitt Romney's faith must sell newspapers. Most people don't know much about Mormans and obviously need to know much more. I, for one, am reading everything I can put my hands on.

Any information on Mitt and Ann Romney is fair game. They put themselves out there on the big stage.


BTW, in 2008 The New York Times published 243 articles on the Rev Jermiah Wright.

Guest
05-21-2012, 05:47 PM
Writing about Mitt Romney's faith must sell newspapers. Most people don't know much about Mormans and obviously need to know much more. I, for one, am reading everything I can put my hands on.

Any information on Mitt and Ann Romney is fair game. They put themselves out there on the big stage.


BTW, in 2008 The New York Times published 243 articles on the Rev Jermiah Wright.

So you do not join the outcry on Wright ? Funny, most decried it and said McCain was a prince for not using it....hmmm, and guess what I recall all those pages on Wright in the NYT saying what does it matter....what is the problem with this...and why would anyone bring this up.....and all the while you research Romneys religion...strange stuff.

And you suggest to keep up that we should all read up on Black Liberation ? Should we go back to the Chicago archives and find out why Obama joined that church ? Should we look inside that box that Wright is saving ?

One final comment....I have said my entire life that those who would even suggest as you did attacking a candidates wife reflects something very dark. When it was reported that Mrs Obama had made a hate speech, ALL WERE TOLD...that is not fair..that is racist...that is hate.

I suppose we all come from different sets of values !

Guest
05-21-2012, 06:43 PM
We recently had such an uproar because somebody was going to spend money showing Obama's relationship with Rev Wright. It was called unfair, racist and a lot of hateful names.

This from the Washington Post...

"Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history"

Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-mormon-faith-tangles-with-a-quirk-of-arkansas-history/2012/05/20/gIQAKHVFeU_print.html)

This is a discussion of an event, not from high school, but from 150 years ago and is aimed specifically to generate discussion of the Mormon religion.

Not saying there is anything hateful in this column, but how is it deemed appropriate to discuss Romney's religion and background and not Obama's ??

PLUS...

"NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers"

"New York Times correspondent Jodi Kantor appeared on MSNBC this morning to discuss an investigative report she did on Mitt Romney's Mormon church, his values and what his fellow worshipers say about him. "

NYT Reporter Goes To Romney's Church, Seeks Dirt From Worshipers | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/21/nyt_reporter_goes_to_romneys_church_seeks_dirt_fro m_worshipers.html)

I cannot see the difference !!!!!!

Yes you can see the difference one is a Liberal Democrat and one is not!

Guest
05-21-2012, 06:58 PM
Yes you can see the difference one is a Liberal Democrat and one is not!

Some of our posters on here feel that wives, your religion, etc all fair game......EXCEPT for anyone on the other side...interesting concept.

I might add that posters on this forum have been very respectful of the current first lady

Guest
05-21-2012, 09:16 PM
You have to remember you don't know what obama's religion is or even who he really is. How can you discuss something that doesn't exist . I some times think he doesn't know who he is.
True, since he certainly isn't who he thinks he is!