View Full Version : Tipping @ Crispers *NOW ALLOWED/ENCOURAGED*
nonseniorresident
05-25-2012, 09:43 PM
Tipping @ Crispers *NOW ALLOWED/ENCOURAGED*
What's everyone's thoughts on this?
Posh 08
05-25-2012, 11:17 PM
Tipping @ Crispers *NOW ALLOWED/ENCOURAGED*
What's everyone's thoughts on this?
It was posted that they are now under new management. It's servers probably are working for tips. So if/when I go there I'll tip.
jimbo2012
05-25-2012, 11:31 PM
The Florida minimum wage for tipped employees is $4.29 per hour, higher then the federal minimum wage for tipped employees of $2.13 per hour. The Florida tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.
Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the minimum of $7.67 per hour. If a Florida employee does not earn at least $7.67 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.
Florida Tipped Wage Example:
Annette works in Florida as a waitress, and earns over $30 in tips a month. This hour, Annette earned $2.70 in tips. Her employer must pay her a cash wage of at least $4.97, to bring her total earnings for the hour up to the Florida minimum wage of $7.67. Alexandra, who also works as a waitress, earned $17.70 in tips this hour. Because she is already earning at least the minimum wage, her employer can pay her the Florida tipped minimum wage of $4.29 for this hour.
They must also earn overtime 40+
rhood
05-26-2012, 05:50 AM
The Florida minimum wage for tipped employees is $4.29 per hour, higher then the federal minimum wage for tipped employees of $2.13 per hour. The Florida tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.
Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the minimum of $7.67 per hour. If a Florida employee does not earn at least $7.67 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.
Florida Tipped Wage Example:
Annette works in Florida as a waitress, and earns over $30 in tips a month. This hour, Annette earned $2.70 in tips. Her employer must pay her a cash wage of at least $4.97, to bring her total earnings for the hour up to the Florida minimum wage of $7.67. Alexandra, who also works as a waitress, earned $17.70 in tips this hour. Because she is already earning at least the minimum wage, her employer can pay her the Florida tipped minimum wage of $4.29 for this hour.
They must also earn overtime 40+
If Annette serves a party or 8 and each couple tips her $2, thats $8, plus her hourly wage of $4.29. If she does several tables an hour, seems like that is a pretty good wage. Probably won't do that at Crispers. Yeah, I know sometimes they have to share with other servers and cooks. Was in Beef O Bradys a few days ago and the place was full and turnover was brisk. The tips for our table alone was nearly $20. Only three servers and two cooks. All the tips even if they were split among 5 employes seems pretty good.
jimbo2012
05-26-2012, 06:31 AM
They still must make the minimum wage after tip sharing, Federal labor regulations allow restaurants to require that waiters and waitresses split their tips with others who "customarily receive tips." This may include busboys, bartenders, and counter personnel. Restaurants also can decide the percentage to be distributed. But federal guidelines prohibit restaurants from forcing tipped employees to share their tips with workers who don't customarily receive tips, such as cooks, chefs, dishwashers and managers.
Here's a good link (http://www.floridarestaurantlaw.com/flsa.html) on the law
The sharing (http://www.frla.org/frla-news/industry-bulletins/item/551-tip-outs-and-tip-pooling) may not exceed 15% of the tip received.
So a bill of $50 say gets a 20% tip or $10 the max your wait staff must give up is $1.50 if the place requires sharing.
To be candid, in the years we've traveled we see tables that were served leaving very small tips like $2-3 very often on the table. When we leave 15-20% we get a big thank you, depends where you are. as to what is accepted as normal.
redwitch
05-26-2012, 06:52 AM
Serving is a hard job and you have to put up with a lot of garbage. If the cook messes up the meal, the server gets the blame. If the food is sent back, the cook takes it out on the server. If the customer had a bad day, the server is a handy target. To me, you can't tip enough. There are still too many in TV who think that 10% is a good tip.
Sadly, the law that says the server must make minimum wage regardless of tipping doesn't factor in tipping out. So, if the server does happen to make $8.50 with tips, giving the 5-20% of tips to cooks, busboys, bartenders (!! who usually get more in tips than the server does), hosts, expediters puts them back below minimum wage. Horrible practice. Wish servers would get together and flat out refuse to do the tip backs. They should not have to subsidize the salaries of their co-workers.
salpal
05-26-2012, 07:30 AM
Redwitch, you are correct. I was a waitress while putting myself through college. It was probably the toughest job I ever had.
Even though there is not "table" service at Crispers, it will not kill you to tip. People are not getting rich working at restaurants. Most are in the class I feel sorry for the most: the working poor. If you have made it to The Villages, you are most likely not in that category.
buzzy
05-26-2012, 09:21 AM
Sounds very complicated for the establishment to monitor tips on an individual basis for each server employee. We always pay with a credit card, but sometimes leave the tip in cash, thinking that the server would get it all. Even though we tip generously, I feel cheap when crossing out the gratuity line on the receipt. Now it seems that we should be putting the tip on the credit card receipt anyway.
Thoughts?
ilovetv
05-26-2012, 09:34 AM
If Annette serves a party or 8 and each couple tips her $2, thats $8, plus her hourly wage of $4.29. If she does several tables an hour, seems like that is a pretty good wage. Probably won't do that at Crispers. Yeah, I know sometimes they have to share with other servers and cooks. Was in Beef O Bradys a few days ago and the place was full and turnover was brisk. The tips for our table alone was nearly $20. Only three servers and two cooks. All the tips even if they were split among 5 employes seems pretty good.
Many people here are cheap and would not leave a $20 tip even if their bill totaled $200. Your example is not the norm. This is why many restaurants attach an automatic tip of 15 or 20% for large tables.....because some at a table might tip generously, others see that and think they can get away with leaving nothing. They seem to think they, living in TV, need $2 or $3 more than a waitress putting herself thru college and/or raising kids as a single mother who gets nothing from the deadbeat dad. Many customers could ask themselves after tipping a dollar or 10% of the tab, "Do I really need this extra $1 or $2 in my hand?" and the answer would be "no"....."this server needs it more than I do when he/she stops after work at Publix or the gas pump".
BTW, tips are an incentive, just as commissions are in selling homes or cars. Tips are an incentive to do more for the customer than just slap the food on the table and leave.
hulahips
05-26-2012, 11:15 AM
My feeling is this. If you have to stand on a line to order your food, why would you tip?? If you are seated and waited on,of course you tip. Why have a half waited on service? You stand on line and order, and they bring to table?? I know others will disagree but it's a personal opinon.
Have to say I've been going to crispers for years but am somewhat disappointed in their salads. I only eat healthy so when I order a salad I want veggies on it, not cheese, eggs, bacon, crotons. Give me fresh greens (not iceberg) cucumbers, fresh tomatoes, green peppers, onions, brocolli, carrots, and hold the garbage. the chef salad yrs ago was better. Lately, the tomatoes are not fresh and too much cheese, eggs, etc... the cold cuts on the chefs salad are the end cuts of meat!! yuk with skin on it. Healthy is always better!! Improvement is needed and a more health conscous restaurant would be great!!
nonseniorresident
05-26-2012, 04:45 PM
They didn't lower their wage, they just accept tips like how Starbucks has a tip jar. When you are at Burger King they yell out your number and you have to go grab it. Not only that but with my experience BK messus up my order 90% and it's never complicated. Usually just forget my sauces, forgets to hold the mayo, fries instead of onion rings etc.
Crispers at least brings you the food, asks if you need anything, and cleans up after you (unlike Panera where you have to buss your own table - can't stand that!). Still not 20% worthy just maybe $1 or more if they go out of their way to care for you.
Nothing changed service wise or pay wise (for them). They just changed their policy because it wasn't fair that anytime someone felt they deserved tips, the company forced them to give it up for "United Way" (which is a scam - 99% of their donations go to "administrative fees") and if they kept a tip they were instantly fired. Glad they can accept tips now, it's only fair.
The only thing I thought was bogus was when I ordered and payed with a card, there was a line for a tip...yeah I'm going to tip before the service? No. Next time I'll just pay with cash and leave what I think is fair after. I still gave them $2 since a coupon saved me $9.
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