George Zimmerman's Bond Revoked

[janmcn]

George Zimmerman and his wife lied to the court about their finances, claiming they had to borrow the bond money from his parents and grandparents all the while collecting over $200,000 on his website. Also, unknown to the court, Zimmerman had two passports. He was ordered to surrender himself to jail within 48 hours. It's unknown whether he will stay in jail until the trial. So much for George Zimmerman's credibility.

[paulandjean]

Told you so.

[Taltarzac725]

Not sure this really destroys his credibility as to what happened the night he shot Trayvon Martin. It should not even color it all that much as to what happened that night.

Let's wait and see what the evidence shows about that night. Remember all the media against George Zimmerman before he had his present lawyer. That should be entered into the credibility issue because of all the stress this put on Zimmerman and his wife.

[janmcn]

I don't think George Zimmerman can blame stress for his failure to report $200,000 in assets and a second passport. It seems that Zimmerman and his wife were overheard talking in code, and I can only guess it was maybe about using that passport and cash. Perhaps the newspaper tomorrow will have more about what transpired today. In any event, he will be returning to jail on Sunday for an indeterminate time.

[Bogie Shooter]

The sad thing is we will have to deal with every little detail or change for the next 1-2 years before the trial even begins. I am tired of it already.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't think George Zimmerman can blame stress for his failure to report $200,000 in assets and a second passport. It seems that Zimmerman and his wife were overheard talking in code, and I can only guess it was maybe about using that passport and cash. Perhaps the newspaper tomorrow will have more about what transpired today. In any event, he will be returning to jail on Sunday for an indeterminate time.


All I am saying is that he may have told the truth about what happened when he shot Trayvon Martin and then lied about the amount of money he had because of the very harsh media re-action he received before he obtained legal representation. He did have a bounty on his head.

Let's wait and see what the evidence shows.

[gatherer47]

You can't destroy credibility when you have no credibility to begin with-I agree with Bogie Shooter.We'll be hearing about this non-stop for years probably.

[paulandjean]

Enough of this bounty on his head. Somebody heard that somebody said that there is a boundy on his head.Right from the get-go you know George Zimmerman story did not add up.

[Taltarzac725]

Enough of this bounty on his head. Somebody heard that somebody said that there is a boundy on his head.Right from the get-go you know George Zimmerman story did not add up.

That is not a rumor. The New Black Panther Party did put on bounty on Zimmerman's head. New Black Panther Party Offers $10K Bounty For George Zimmerman : The Two-Way : NPR (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/03/26/149399082/new-black-panther-party-offers-10k-bounty-for-george-zimmerman)

As far as the murder of Trayvon Martin is concerned, though, all we should be interested in is what happened in those minutes up to, during, and after Mr. Martin was killed by George Zimmerman: How close was the gun to Martin? What was the angle of trajectory into Martin's body? Presence of powder burns on Zimmerman's shirt? Lighting where Martin was shot? Grass or other stains on both men's clothing? Witness statements? Extent of injuries to George Zimmerman's head and hands? Injuries other than gunshot to Trayvon Martin? I am probably missing something as much of the evidence in this case is still hidden. It also sounds like the investigation into what happened in these minutes was very shoddy.

[Taltarzac725]

George Zimmerman Credibility May Be Issue In Trayvon Martin Case (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02/zimmerman-credibility-trayvon-martin-case_n_1564692.html)

I know that George Zimmerman's getting a fair trial will be a difficult prospect now with his credibility being in question.

[janmcn]

George Zimmerman Credibility May Be Issue In Trayvon Martin Case (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02/zimmerman-credibility-trayvon-martin-case_n_1564692.html)

I know that George Zimmerman's getting a fair trial will be a difficult prospect now with his credibility being in question.

As I've said before, if Casey Anthony, the most hated woman in America, could get a fair trial, there is no reason George Zimmerman can't get a fair trial. Most people have lives and are not paying that much attention to this case. They can move the trial, if needed, or more likely import a jury from another jurisdiction, like they did in the Anthony trial. If he remains behind bars, his defense will probably move for a speedy trial

[Taltarzac725]

As I've said before, if Casey Anthony, the most hated woman in America, could get a fair trial, there is no reason George Zimmerman can't get a fair trial. Most people have lives and are not paying that much attention to this case. They can move the trial, if needed, or more likely import a jury from another jurisdiction, like they did in the Anthony trial. If he remains behind bars, his defense will probably move for a speedy trial

Casey Anthony did get a fair trial, I agree. This Zimmerman case though unfortunately has an election year spin with many Democrats taking the side of Trayvon Martin and many Republicans coming down on the side of George Zimmerman. Not all one either side though. I am very much a liberal Democrat; but, am waiting on the evidence before really making up my mind. There's also the race issue even though Zimmerman is hispanic.

This is a much more complicated case than the Casey Anthony one. I had also thought that Casey Anthony killed her child before hearing all the evidence in that case.

[Papa Muzzy]

Ok , I know it sounds crazy...... Has anyone mentioned that Zimmerman may have inflicted his own injuries upon himself. I'm sur e it doesn't happen that often. If your from MA. You might remember the Stewart case. Well off Guy shot and killed his pregnant wife. Then proceeded to shoot himself in the stomach. Then... Called the police from his cellphone in the car and said a black guy did it. Just makes Ya think.

[CMANN]

Ok , I know it sounds crazy...... Has anyone mentioned that Zimmerman may have inflicted his own injuries upon himself. I'm sur e it doesn't happen that often. If your from MA. You might remember the Stewart case. Well off Guy shot and killed his pregnant wife. Then proceeded to shoot himself in the stomach. Then... Called the police from his cellphone in the car and said a black guy did it. Just makes Ya think.

Wow, is that the best idea? A real stretch in my opinion.

[paulandjean]

Because its a election year. Boy I think that I heard then all. This makes no sense.

[Taltarzac725]

Because its a election year. Boy I think that I heard then all. This makes no sense.

Emotions are very high during Presidential election years because of the constant bombardment of usually negative ads from both sides. It does color how a very high profile case like George Zimmerman's shooting of Trayvon Martin is treated by people in the media and especially groups with a special interest in this case like gun advocacy groups, black pride groups, and others. George Zimmerman case http://www.teapartynation.com/forum/topics/the-prosecutor-in-the-george-zimmerman-case-should-be-disbarredcould hit 2012 presidential race - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75113.html)


As to Pappa Muzzy's idea-- the evidence would show if George Zimmerman's head wounds were self-inflicted would be my guess. Mainly from the evidence on Trayvon Martin's hands.

[Moderator]

Please refrain from injecting partisan political statements in this thread or it will have to be moved to the political forum. Try to direct your comments to the legal issues.

[Papa Muzzy]

Stewart case far fetched but google it. Very interesting. If my memory serves me right and being a Villager maybe it doesn't . I think it took them months to figure it out . maybe more. There was even an arrest made . Also caused horrible racial problems we thought were becoming a memory in Boston. This happened only about 20 years ago. Maybe not as much technology then

[Taltarzac725]

Stewart case far fetched but google it. Very interesting. If my memory serves me right and being a Villager maybe it doesn't . I think it took them months to figure it out . maybe more. There was even an arrest made . Also caused horrible racial problems we thought were becoming a memory in Boston. This happened only about 20 years ago. Maybe not as much technology then


I will bet a lot of cop gut instincts were going off during this Stewart investigation. The Trayvon Martin shooting does not seem to be ringing that many bells about who shot whom or even why Zimmerman shot. The how the shooting happened is the big mystery.


On This Day: White Boston Man Kills Pregnant Wife, Blames Imaginary Black Man (http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/on-this-day/September-October-08/On-this-Day--White-Boston-Man-Kills-Pregnant-Wife--Blames-Imaginary-Black-Man.html)

[Taltarzac725]

George Zimmerman is now back in jail according to an e-mail I received a few minutes ago from the Orlando Sentinel.

Defense: George Zimmerman in police custody - seattlepi.com (http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Defense-George-Zimmerman-in-police-custody-3603974.php)

[Papa Muzzy]

No happy ending for anyone here

[Taltarzac725]

No happy ending for anyone here

You are right. It is a tragedy to both the Zimmerman and Martin families no matter how this case turns out.

[janmcn]

Atty Mark O'Mara just said in a press conference that George Zimmerman's credibility is an issue. Zimmerman and his wife brought this whole lack of credibility issue on themselves by lying about the money they had. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

[Taltarzac725]

Will George Zimmerman get out of jail after $135,000 lie? - CSMonitor.com (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0604/Will-George-Zimmerman-get-out-of-jail-after-135-000-lie)

[CMANN]

Will George Zimmerman get out of jail after $135,000 lie? - CSMonitor.com (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0604/Will-George-Zimmerman-get-out-of-jail-after-135-000-lie)

He should have never been in jail in the first place.

[paulandjean]

He never should have been in jail in the first place? All I can say is thank God we live in America,that Zimmerman is in jail where he belongs.That people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can speak up on the injustice when this case was first being buried because of lack of press.

[Taltarzac725]

He never should have been in jail in the first place? All I can say is thank God we live in America,that Zimmerman is in jail where he belongs.That people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can speak up on the injustice when this case was first being buried because of lack of press.

Hope you are trying to be funny. This case was never buried by lack of the press. It went national 10 days after it happened but was covered by the Florida press. Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/business/media/for-martins-case-a-long-route-to-national-attention.html?_r=1

[DaleMN]

He should have never been in jail in the first place.

That's just ridiculous. :ohdear:

[Taltarzac725]

That's just ridiculous. :ohdear:

I agree. We still do not know what happened in the fight between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman and may never know. The Sanford police should have arrested George Zimmerman at the scene and done a proper investigation taking his clothes for evidence and putting down tape at the crime scene and other such steps with respect to preserving the evidence.

[Advogado]

I agree. We still do not know what happened in the fight between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman and may never know. The Sanford police should have arrested George Zimmerman at the scene and done a proper investigation taking his clothes for evidence and putting down tape at the crime scene and other such steps with respect to preserving the evidence.
I am not sure that the investigation was as screwed up as was reported in the media-- which has either distorted or lied about a number of facts.

First, despite news reports to the contrary, Zimmerman was, in fact, arrested. He was taken to the police station in handcuffs. That is being arrested by any definition, except that used by the media. He was subsequently released when the police decided that they had insufficient evidence to continue to hold him.

Second, it appears that the police did interview a number of witnesses, a fact not initially reported by the media.

Third, it now appears that Martin's clothes were preserved and tested for gunpowder residue, with the conclusion that he was shot at very close range. That backs up Zimmerman's story. If you are carrying a firearm, as I did professionally for several years, you do not, unless you are a knucklehead, initiate a grappling situation with an adversary-- you may lose control of the firearm. (On the other hand, Zimmerman's conduct, that night and at his bond hearing, indicates that he may well qualify as a knucklehead.)

Fourth, toxicology was, in fact, done on Martin's body and drugs were found, albeit in small amounts.

I am not defending Zimmerman, since we still don't have all the facts. My gripe is with the media's coverage of the incident, the prosecutor's unethical conduct, and demagogues, like Sharpton and Jackson, turning the thing into a racial issue. Let's face the fact that, unfortunately, young men are shot everyday on the streets of our cities in situations not too dissimilar from this one. Very, very few of those shootings are racially motivated. This one, however, has been turned into a racially inflamed circus by demagogues and the media.

[janmcn]

George Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, has been arrested and charged with one count of perjury. She is in the process of bonding out.

[paulandjean]

Put a fork in George Zimmerman__ I think he is cooked.....

[janmcn]

According to the Miami Herald, Shellie Zimmerman transferred thousands of dollars out of her husband's defense fund before telling a Sanford judge the couple had no cash for defense. Zimmerman was in and out of court in just over an hour after posting $1000 bond.

[rp001]

good news

[CMANN]

George Zimmerman's wife, Shellie, has been arrested and charged with one count of perjury. She is in the process of bonding out.

Florida should be ashamed of itself. All of this harassment because of the thief attacking an armed citizen. Not only a fool but a suicidal fool. We should leave these people alone. It is better for society if George Zimmerman is acquitted. If Martin is vindicated in this it will embolden one of our worst cultures in society.

Just my opinion

[buggyone]

Florida should be ashamed of itself. All of this harassment because of the thief attacking an armed citizen. Not only a fool but a suicidal fool. We should leave these people alone. It is better for society if George Zimmerman is acquitted. If Martin is vindicated in this it will embolden one of our worst cultures in society.

Just my opinion

Trayvon Martin was a thief? He did not steal the candy or ice tea to my knowledge. He bought them at a convenience store.

What do you mean by one of the worst cultures in society?

We should leave a purgerer alone and leave alone a trial for someone who killed another human? I think not.

[manaboutown]

Put a fork in George Zimmerman__ I think he is cooked.....

Alex Kinyua might want to join you.

[manaboutown]

[QUOTE=buggyone;505220]Trayvon Martin was a thief? QUOTE]

He was found with burglary tools and stolen women's jewelry in his back pack by a school security guard so he was a burglar.

[Posh 08]

Aside from the killing, his got cute with the Court. Makes me wonder about the values in that household.

[rp001]

Those that think this guy doesn't belong in jail....Pls donate...His wife could use a few more bucks...This guy is a punk, nothing else..trayvon was probably a punk too, but that doesn't require the death penalty instituted by a dysfunctional, wannabe cop...

[graciegirl]

According to the Miami Herald, Shellie Zimmerman transferred thousands of dollars out of her husband's defense fund before telling a Sanford judge the couple had no cash for defense. Zimmerman was in and out of court in just over an hour after posting $1000 bond.

That information was in The Daily Sun this morning too.

[dillywho]

Unfortunately, everyone seems to have forgotten that neither of these guys knew anything about the other that night. The police didn't even know who Martin was until the next day, much less what he had or hadn't done in the past.

Zimmerman was heard on the 911 tape saying that Martin ran. (I would have, too, if someone I didn't know suddenly started following me.) How did he know that Zimmerman was on the phone to 911 and not someone else with perhaps two of them intending to do him harm? Remember, the only side to this story is Zimmerman's and he can't even seem to keep it straight. That came out in his first bond hearing when he told Martin's parents in his apology that he didn't know he was a teen, but thought that he was around his own age. He had told the 911 operator that he thought the guy was probably in his late teens. Add in the outright lies about the money and a different picture emerges. All this together could and should cast a really big shadow on his Stand Your Ground defense.

My dad was right when he said that a board has two sides.

Sadly in this case, we only get to see(hear) one side. So far for now, the rest is just public conjecture.

[Posh 08]

Texas man convicted in stand-your-ground case (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-14/texas-stand-your-ground/55592380/1)