Patriot Voices

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For you Rick Santorum fans, he announced his new conservative group. Patriot Voices. He plans on rallying conservatives around Mr Romney.

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For you Rick Santorum fans, he announced his new conservative group. Patriot Voices. He plans on rallying conservatives around Mr Romney.


I think that is so hypocritical that Santorum would rally conservatives around Romney after calling him the worst possible choice for beating Pres. Obama.

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Santorum Launches Patriot Voices to Defeat President Obama and Mobilize One Million Conservatives - U.s. - Catholic Online (http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=46550)

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I think that is so hypocritical that Santorum would rally conservatives around Romney after calling him the worst possible choice for beating Pres. Obama.

the enemy of my enemy...........

Who says Santorum doesn't still believe what you say above, and that he should be the candidate? But the die is cast. There can be no doubt that Santorum believes Romney would be a far better President for the next four years than "The Amateur".

It a positive thing for a man to get up and dust himself off, and fight for the greater good despite some misgivings.

You say hypocritical; I call it character.

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the enemy of my enemy...........

Who says Santorum doesn't still believe what you say above, and that he should be the candidate? But the die is cast. There can be no doubt that Santorum believes Romney would be a far better President for the next four years than "The Amateur".

It a positive thing for a man to get up and dust himself off, and fight for the greater good despite some misgivings.

You say hypocritical; I call it character.

Hillary and Bill Clinton did the same thing with President Barack Obama when he became the 2008 Democratic candidate. It is just party politics.

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I think that is so hypocritical that Santorum would rally conservatives around Romney after calling him the worst possible choice for beating Pres. Obama.


Again, we ignore history and facts !!!

Recall Secy Clinton telling us all that Obama was not qualified to take that emergency call at 3 AM ?

Or this quote in one debate "I was fighting against those ideas when you were practicing law and representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago. "

Either that makes Secy Clinton " so hypocritical" OR the people who make such claims to be simple party tools and unaware ones at that.

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Again, we ignore history and facts !!!

Recall Secy Clinton telling us all that Obama was not qualified to take that emergency call at 3 AM ?

Or this quote in one debate "I was fighting against those ideas when you were practicing law and representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago. "

Either that makes Secy Clinton " so hypocritical" OR the people who make such claims to be simple party tools and unaware ones at that.

Without diverting to what others have done in the past, you do not think it is somewhat hypocritical that Rick Santorum would start a group supporting Mitt Romney after saying that Romney would be the worst possible choice for beating Obama?

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Ricky Sanitarium is sucking up for a job in a never-to-be-Willard administration.

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Mature voters realize that the life of our nation is what's at stake, not a single candidate. Give Obama four more years and it will take him and the chicago machine only about two years to finish off the job.

It goes without saying that Santorum loves this nation more than he does his or Romney's candidacy or win.

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I will be glad to see Obama go back to Chicago with the rest of his crooked party members.Sure he will pardon his buddy Rezko on the way out, who gave him a sweetheart deal. Get back to screw up the state even more.For most of my life had to put up with the chicago way of kick backs and favors.

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Without diverting to what others have done in the past, you do not think it is somewhat hypocritical that Rick Santorum would start a group supporting Mitt Romney after saying that Romney would be the worst possible choice for beating Obama?

Again, you show your naivety on this subject. It happens in all primaries and then they make up and go forward in the general election.

Of course it is hypocritical..my point would be why you would bring it up since it is something that pretty much happens every election and made newsworthy because of the presidential election, but is surely not unique and wonder why it is so unique to you ?

I guess you are just ignoring the fact that Secy Clinton called Obama incompetent.....etc.

But again, how can you ask the question if you understand the way things are, and then say dont talk about anyone else but this particular primary...that does not make any sense at all.

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Again, you show your naivety on this subject. It happens in all primaries and then they make up and go forward in the general election.

Of course it is hypocritical..my point would be why you would bring it up since it is something that pretty much happens every election and made newsworthy because of the presidential election, but is surely not unique and wonder why it is so unique to you ?

I guess you are just ignoring the fact that Secy Clinton called Obama incompetent.....etc.

But again, how can you ask the question if you understand the way things are, and then say dont talk about anyone else but this particular primary...that does not make any sense at all.

Oh yes, it does make a lot of sense. I am not talking of 4 years ago. I am talking what happened in the past few months. If this had been a Democrat primary, I would have asked the same thing. I am glad to see that you agree with me Santorum is a hypocrit on this issue.

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Mr. Santorum, like all polictians, has learned the old saw about flies and honey. He can gain ground on his agenda only by supporting the party.

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the enemy of my enemy...........

Who says Santorum doesn't still believe what you say above, and that he should be the candidate? But the die is cast. There can be no doubt that Santorum believes Romney would be a far better President for the next four years than "The Amateur".

It a positive thing for a man to get up and dust himself off, and fight for the greater good despite some misgivings.

You say hypocritical; I call it character.

There is no doubt that Santorum is a character. :ohdear:

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Oh yes, it does make a lot of sense. I am not talking of 4 years ago. I am talking what happened in the past few months. If this had been a Democrat primary, I would have asked the same thing. I am glad to see that you agree with me Santorum is a hypocrit on this issue.

Lets be very clear !!!!!!

I am in agreement with you on NOTHING !!!!!

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Lets be very clear !!!!!!

I am in agreement with you on NOTHING !!!!!

Surely you agree with me on my posting regarding the Wisconsin governor recall in which I posted: "No matter which side of the political fence you are on, doesn't it make you feel good that the citizens of Wisconsin were able to voice their opinion and vote for their candidate - without the riots or killing like in lots of other countries.

The US Constitution guarantees this right and it works!"

I thought we definitely could agree on that even though our viewpoints are sometimes at odds.

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Surely you agree with me on my posting regarding the Wisconsin governor recall in which I posted: "No matter which side of the political fence you are on, doesn't it make you feel good that the citizens of Wisconsin were able to voice their opinion and vote for their candidate - without the riots or killing like in lots of other countries.

The US Constitution guarantees this right and it works!"

I thought we definitely could agree on that even though our viewpoints are sometimes at odds.

All that seems reasonable.

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Surely you agree with me on my posting regarding the Wisconsin governor recall in which I posted: "No matter which side of the political fence you are on, doesn't it make you feel good that the citizens of Wisconsin were able to voice their opinion and vote for their candidate - without the riots or killing like in lots of other countries.

The US Constitution guarantees this right and it works!"

I thought we definitely could agree on that even though our viewpoints are sometimes at odds.

Lets understand each other and you certainly can take this to the administrator, as I wish I had done in the past.

I find your posts to be generally insulting...your name calling and accusations and your flip attitude about anything. You have said many times that you feel it is appropriate to call people by any name you wish if they happen to be in public life. I could not disagree more with you as I feel that character is the most important thing in life and folks just do not vent in the manner that you do, and make light of everything and everybody,

Why am I saying this now..you posted a link and made some accusations. You specifically asked me to read it in an unbiased manner. I did all of that thinking that maybe you were really going to engage in a conversation on something. I read it three times to insure I understood what was your point. I then did some research and shared it with you and made absolutely no smart cracks...even agreed with you on some items..nothing snarky or wise. I posted links to the most uncontroversial link possible....the CBO.

Your response was a flip remark from MASH and a flippant attitude with no regard to the response as if you sit on some kind of throne and look down on me.

Making me look like an idiot is not something that I like and you did that and seemed to be peacock proud of it Should I be that sensitive...no, but you have done it before, not only to me, but that was just the end of the line for me.

You, and others have chided me much in the past.....I have taken it....but you really posted DIRECTLY to ME as if I were some kind of idiot and I really felt set up.

YOU asked ME to give a link from you the proper read and insure I did not flip it off as bias...I did that...and then get flipped off by you as if you had some magic hold on everyone.

You discuss me on PM, and as you know I had to ask you to remove a public note on your profile which referred to me by name. That is your right to do I suppose, but I do have a limit and I suppose I have reached it.

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Rutro :ohdear:

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Politics are politics whether in Washington or in a corporation. And so while reasonable people disagree and advance their plans. programs, best plays etc ( their beliefs ) there comes a time when a decision is made and those opposed join in to support the winning inititative to ensure its success. It is the human experience and a natural progression for the advancement of the better idea. Hence Santorum is no more hypocritical than any of us. Actually he shows himself to be a mature adult and a better man for it. Isn't it a fact that none of us cares much for a bad loser.

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Politics are politics whether in Washington or in a corporation. And so while reasonable people disagree and advance their plans. programs, best plays etc ( their beliefs ) there comes a time when a decision is made and those opposed join in to support the winning inititative to ensure its success. It is the human experience and a natural progression for the advancement of the better idea. Hence Santorum is no more hypocritical than any of us. Actually he shows himself to be a mature adult and a better man for it. Isn't it a fact that none of us cares much for a bad loser.

Very well written, Rubicon. I really cannot disagree with you.

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Lets understand each other and you certainly can take this to the administrator, as I wish I had done in the past.

I find your posts to be generally insulting...your name calling and accusations and your flip attitude about anything. You have said many times that you feel it is appropriate to call people by any name you wish if they happen to be in public life. I could not disagree more with you as I feel that character is the most important thing in life and folks just do not vent in the manner that you do, and make light of everything and everybody,

Why am I saying this now..you posted a link and made some accusations. You specifically asked me to read it in an unbiased manner. I did all of that thinking that maybe you were really going to engage in a conversation on something. I read it three times to insure I understood what was your point. I then did some research and shared it with you and made absolutely no smart cracks...even agreed with you on some items..nothing snarky or wise. I posted links to the most uncontroversial link possible....the CBO.

Your response was a flip remark from MASH and a flippant attitude with no regard to the response as if you sit on some kind of throne and look down on me.

Making me look like an idiot is not something that I like and you did that and seemed to be peacock proud of it Should I be that sensitive...no, but you have done it before, not only to me, but that was just the end of the line for me.

You, and others have chided me much in the past.....I have taken it....but you really posted DIRECTLY to ME as if I were some kind of idiot and I really felt set up.

YOU asked ME to give a link from you the proper read and insure I did not flip it off as bias...I did that...and then get flipped off by you as if you had some magic hold on everyone.

You discuss me on PM, and as you know I had to ask you to remove a public note on your profile which referred to me by name. That is your right to do I suppose, but I do have a limit and I suppose I have reached it.

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Patriot Voices is going to work to support conservative candidates in many senatorial, judicial and representative races as well as supporting Mitt Romney for president...if we want our country back, mr. obama is just the tip of the iceberg...we have much to work for and i am grateful for rick santorum's leadership and organizational connections. all conservatives should donate to this because i am confident it will be run honestly and make the best use of our dollars. you can like them on facebook!

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Patriot Voices is going to work to support conservative candidates in many senatorial, judicial and representative races as well as supporting Mitt Romney for president...if we want our country back, mr. obama is just the tip of the iceberg...we have much to work for and i am grateful for rick santorum's leadership and organizational connections. all conservatives should donate to this because i am confident it will be run honestly and make the best use of our dollars. you can like them on facebook!

I am sure they are willing to take all the money you care to donate to them, ChaCha. Compares greatly to throwing money down a rat hole, if you ask me.

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Not that I ever thought I'd be defending Santorum but this is the second time I've had to point this out.

That comment from Santorum was taken WAY out of context. What he said was that Romney was the worst Republican candidate to pit against Obama ON THE SUBJECT OF HEALTH-CARE - because Romney had enacted his plan in Massachusetts that became a model for Obama's plan.

In other words, Santorum was talking about ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE - not the entirety of the candidate's views.

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Not that I ever thought I'd be defending Santorum but this is the second time I've had to point this out.

That comment from Santorum was taken WAY out of context. What he said was that Romney was the worst Republican candidate to pit against Obama ON THE SUBJECT OF HEALTH-CARE - because Romney had enacted his plan in Massachusetts that became a model for Obama's plan.

In other words, Santorum was talking about ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE - not the entirety of the candidate's views.

The bashers don't want or appreciate clarity when it comes to Santorum.

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clarity and specifics do not allow deniability the enemy of too many Obama supporters.

It is not just limited to this forum. On other forums, meetings or the bar it seems to be the preferred mode of communicating when ever trying to discuss an issue.

That plus opposition bashing, name calling, Bush bashing and never ever staying on the point....coincidence?

I prefer, right or wrong, one's personal opinions.....not party parroting.

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