Obama doesn't trust Latino's with forks???

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Hot on the heels after his announcement that he would free young Latinos from the onus of their illegality, Obama was to be feted at a gathering at Disney World's Contemporary Resort by NALEO (National Association of Latino Elected Officials)

Before Obama would come into the room the gathering was informed that their forks would be taken away. Knives were already absent from the room, it was mentioned, for "a reason".

It seems Obama has been in many rooms, many times, in the company of people who possessed a fork. Why at this gathering, were the forks confiscated?

I don't know the answer. If I was one of the assembled group of Latino's waiting for their honored speaker, I would be wondering.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/forkless-friday-at-obama-event-127056.html

President Obama Can (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/obama-forks-naleo-secret-service.html)

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If you read the whole article, you'll learn that this was a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. No Politico reporter or poster on this forum has information that the Secret Service might have.


Secret Services confiscates cutlery at Obama event - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/forkless-friday-at-obama-event-127056.html)

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Don't run with scissors, Richie. :(

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Don't run with scissors, Richie. :(

You better tell the Latinos, not me.

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If you read the whole article, you'll learn that this was a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. No Politico reporter or poster on this forum has information that the Secret Service might have.


Secret Services confiscates cutlery at Obama event - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/forkless-friday-at-obama-event-127056.html)

seriously! i thought the latinos were 100% behind the potus after reading this political forum! what could the secret service know that our dem posters don't know? maybe there was a closet conservative in attendence? how sad that a group with so much love for obama is not to be trusted - and in the most wonderful place on earth to boot! sheesh!

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I would bet this security feature has been in place for a long time before Pres. Obama's term in office. Still kind of funny to read about it, though.

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Maybe those vampire hunters needed the silver from the forks. :ho:

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I would bet this security feature has been in place for a long time before Pres. Obama's term in office. Still kind of funny to read about it, though.

This security feature wasn't needed when Mitt Romney spoke, because from what I read, the audience was sitting on their hands. Must be a slow news day for Politico.

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I would bet this security feature has been in place for a long time before Pres. Obama's term in office. Still kind of funny to read about it, though.

You would bet wrong. Look at the second link which shows Obama is rooms with lots of people who have lots of forks.

He just doesn't trust a large group of Latino's with sharp objects is all you can deduce.

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This little tasty tidbit of knowledge says something about the tight Secret Service protection given to earlier Presidents. It is not the same thing but very interesting and flush with information.

Even Bush's Feces & Urine Are Classified Top Secret (http://www.rense.com/general72/fexc.htm)

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This little tasty tidbit of knowledge says something about the tight Secret Service protection given to earlier Presidents. It is not the same thing but very interesting and flush with information.

Even Bush's Feces & Urine Are Classified Top Secret (http://www.rense.com/general72/fexc.htm)

Reminds me about a book about Napoleon's privates and their effect on history.

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Still can't get away from the fact that the only room it appears Obama won't go in to that is equipped with forks is a room of Latino's.

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I guess if anybody would know what it might be like to be forked it would be Obama, He has been forking us for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry could not help myself :shocked:

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I guess if anybody would know what it might be like to be forked it would be Obama, He has been forking us for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry could not help myself :shocked:

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I guess if anybody would know what it might be like to be forked it would be Obama, He has been forking us for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry could not help myself :shocked:

Go back to the post about Junior Bush. Tells us what happened to the country under his administration.:boom:

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Go back to the post about Junior Bush. Tells us what happened to the country under his administration.:boom:

Geeze...I think notlongnow was just kidding around...it's a joke, for God's sake...anything to bring GWB into the conversation, I guess. :boom:

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Go back to the post about Junior Bush. Tells us what happened to the country under his administration.

You should not assume!

I voted for Bush, both times, and like many of you (or many of you should with Obama) I had buyers remorse when it comes to the economy.
I am glad he was there for 911 or else we would all be bowing down facing Mecca 5 times a day by now.

And good God! Is all you guys got for a come back is "what about Bush?

He is not the Pres. Your guy is and he is "forking" it up big time.
The difference I can admit my guy "forked" it up and you can't!! :boom:

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I guess if anybody would know what it might be like to be forked it would be Obama, He has been forking us for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry could not help myself :shocked:

Go back to the post about Junior Bush. Tells us what happened to the country under his administration.:boom:

I'm sorry if I seem to be picking on you, but for someone who dishes it out with abandon....................

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You should not assume!

I voted for Bush, both times, and like many of you (or many of you should with Obama) I had buyers remorse when it comes to the economy.
I am glad he was there for 911 or else we would all be bowing down facing Mecca 5 times a day by now.

And good God! Is all you guys got for a come back is "what about Bush?

He is not the Pres. Your guy is and he is "forking" it up big time.
The difference I can admit my guy "forked" it up and you can't!! :boom:

You know everything is still Bush's fault.

Did you read where the deficit doubled in the past year?

As expected the Democrats blame this on Bush's recent visit to the White House.

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I thought is was kinda funny. :1rotfl::shocked::1rotfl:

I forgot we are all serious here:MOJE_whot:

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I guess if anybody would know what it might be like to be forked it would be Obama, He has been forking us for the last 3 1/2 years.

Sorry could not help myself :shocked:

That is funny. How can President Obama get out of this debt problem without the help of the Republicans in Congress? Seems like someone is putting holes in the ship President Obama is trying to steer out of all the deep red water. I cannot see how a President Mitt Romney can do any better though with his plans to build up the military so much which will also create even deeper debt waters. And, then we will have the Democrats in Congress putting holes in the ship captained by Romney.

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Hot on the heels after his announcement that he would free young Latinos from the onus of their illegality, Obama was to be feted at a gathering at Disney World's Contemporary Resort by NALEO (National Association of Latino Elected Officials)

Before Obama would come into the room the gathering was informed that their forks would be taken away. Knives were already absent from the room, it was mentioned, for "a reason".

It seems Obama has been in many rooms, many times, in the company of people who possessed a fork. Why at this gathering, were the forks confiscated?

I don't know the answer. If I was one of the assembled group of Latino's waiting for their honored speaker, I would be wondering.

Secret Services confiscates cutlery at Obama event - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/forkless-friday-at-obama-event-127056.html)

President Obama Can (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/06/obama-forks-naleo-secret-service.html)Wow, another contribution by Richie, directing our attention to a really important issue facing the country.

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Wow, another contribution by Richie, directing our attention to a really important issue facing the country.

I knew you'd like it. What's more important than a guy who's courting the Latino vote to demand all these Latinos relinquish all sharp objects before he'll enter a room with them.

It's also clear he singled them out as he's never done this before. Do a Google search and see if that's not the case.

I am so thrilled that every post of mine garners such personal attention from you that I become bigger than the story.

You are such a gallant defender against all my posts that might show The Anointed One in a bad light.

Maybe he'll send you a free bumper sticker if you continue your crusade against these negative stories.

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The chicken breast was pre cut? Now that is Nanny State.

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I knew you'd like it. What's more important than a guy who's courting the Latino vote to demand all these Latinos relinquish all sharp objects before he'll enter a room with them.

It's also clear he singled them out as he's never done this before. Do a Google search and see if that's not the case.

I am so thrilled that every post of mine garners such personal attention from you that I become bigger than the story.

You are such a gallant defender against all my posts that might show The Anointed One in a bad light.

Maybe he'll send you a free bumper sticker if you continue your crusade against these negative stories.

Just wait until the Latinos hear about this. They will flock to Mitt by the.....well, maybe one or two will change their vote. :laugh:

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I knew you'd like it. What's more important than a guy who's courting the Latino vote to demand all these Latinos relinquish all sharp objects before he'll enter a room with them.

It's also clear he singled them out as he's never done this before. Do a Google search and see if that's not the case.

I am so thrilled that every post of mine garners such personal attention from you that I become bigger than the story.

You are such a gallant defender against all my posts that might show The Anointed One in a bad light.

Maybe he'll send you a free bumper sticker if you continue your crusade against these negative stories.

If you read the article in Politico, you will see that this is a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. The policy, as is explained in the article, is when the president is seated at the dais, as he is at the White House Correspondents Dinner, these restrictions do not apply. However, when the president is mingling with the crowd, no utensils are allowed. How can a secret service agent distinguish a real knife from an eating utensil from a few feet away?

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If you read the article in Politico, you will see that this is a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. The policy, as is explained in the article, is when the president is seated at the dais, as he is at the White House Correspondents Dinner, these restrictions do not apply. However, when the president is mingling with the crowd, no utensils are allowed. How can a secret service agent distinguish a real knife from an eating utensil from a few feet away?

Thanks for the clarification. These politically biased spotlights by either the Republican or the Democratic campaigns usually spread more darkness than light.

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Originally Posted by janmcn View Post
If you read the article in Politico, you will see that this is a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. The policy, as is explained in the article, is when the president is seated at the dais, as he is at the White House Correspondents Dinner, these restrictions do not apply. However, when the president is mingling with the crowd, no utensils are allowed. How can a secret service agent distinguish a real knife from an eating utensil from a few feet away?

This is not a statement about janmcn's post but rather how funny it is to me that only our government and it's wonderful employees can come up with a plan to have the pres. attend a dinner and then removed the eating utensils!

I wonder if this is how health care will work, Give you health care and remove the doctors?

And just to add to this, is deterring a fork attack really outside the capabilities of or secret service?

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Say what you will or will wht you say, irrespective of who made the call the fact is that knives and forks were removed from the tables of adults. This decision speaks volumes. WOW!

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They should have just served hand held food :beer3:

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Right, I doubt if the Secret Service check out the cutlery offered at some function ahead of time. This is probably how they have done it over the last few decades so I would not try to put this on Obama. That's like trying to blame Obama for the extent of contraceptives at some hotel in Columbia. I do hope they was more planning though in that affair by the Secret Service.

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Thanks for the clarification. These politically biased spotlights by either the Republican or the Democratic campaigns usually spread more darkness than light.

So are you saying it's the Secret Service that doesn't trust Latino business leaders with sharp objects around Obama, and not specifically Obama himself?

Gee, thanks for clearing that up. It's so much better now...........ha ha

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It seems that some posters on this forum are more concerned with President Obama's huge advantage over Mitt Romney with hispanic voters than they are with the use of silverware. To suggest that the secret service confers with the president before every event to get Obama's suggestions for his security is complete lunacy. The secret service's job is to protect the president.

Ask yourself, which of Mitt Romney's policies would hispanics applaud?
Five trillion dollars in tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires?
Increasing taxes on all others?
Repealing the Affordable Care Act?
Repealing the Dream Act?
Defunding Planned Parenthood?
Privatizing public schools?
Supporting self-deportation?
Saying that ending the Iraq was was a "tragic mistake"?
Saying that corporations are people?
Saying that he likes to fire people?

Romney needs to win 40% of the hispanic vote in order to have a chance of winning this election. Which of the above are winning issues?

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To the administrator....

I have reported the last post on this thread as being totally unrelated except as a ploy to do political advertising.

If this is allowed, ie. to allow a beginning phrase and then a sheer political ad to follow, please let us know. Those of us who attempt to discuss an issue OR respond to a post should be aware so that perhaps we may want to take this up also.

In addition, it would be nice to know that during the elections season, the board will even be more polluted than normal with the little quick ads for one candidate or another whether they relate to the supposed issue presented in the thread !

Thanks

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"To suggest that the secret service confers with the president before every event to get Obama's suggestions for his security is complete lunacy. The secret service's job is to protect the president."

Protection does not matter whether it is elected Hispanic leaders or the Future Farmers of America. Precautions have to be taken in every situation.

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It seems that some posters on this forum are more concerned with President Obama's huge advantage over Mitt Romney with hispanic voters than they are with the use of silverware. To suggest that the secret service confers with the president before every event to get Obama's suggestions for his security is complete lunacy. The secret service's job is to protect the president.

Ask yourself, which of Mitt Romney's policies would hispanics applaud?
Five trillion dollars in tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires?
Increasing taxes on all others?
Repealing the Affordable Care Act?
Repealing the Dream Act?
Defunding Planned Parenthood?
Privatizing public schools?
Supporting self-deportation?
Saying that ending the Iraq was was a "tragic mistake"?
Saying that corporations are people?
Saying that he likes to fire people?

Romney needs to win 40% of the hispanic vote in order to have a chance of winning this election. Which of the above are winning issues?






Forget the hispanic vote - Willard knows this is a lost cause. He has no chance to win this group. CO, NM, and NV are blue.

Willard and his genius advisors are now going to suck up to the old, Midwest, conservative whites. Of course, MI is also too blue for Willard to have any hope there, and OH is very close. Thing is, even if Willard wins Ohio, Obama is still over 300 EV.

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It seems that some posters on this forum are more concerned with President Obama's huge advantage over Mitt Romney with hispanic voters than they are with the use of silverware. [snip]

who really cares what the perceived latino advantage is that obama supposedly has today! oops! the libs care...the cons know that there are wealthy conservatice latinos also...and they vote, too!

i thought it was pretty funny that the article richielion originally cited explained that the kitchen served the chicken PRECUT for the guests! lol thought about when my mother used to cut up my meat for me, too! ;)

janmcn - i thought it was politically incorrect to interchange hispanic and latino? - since not all of those from latin nations are hispanic and not all hispanics derive from latin nations? no? i was once called to task by a group of latinas for interchanging the terms!

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Forget the hispanic vote - Willard knows this is a lost cause. He has no chance to win this group. CO, NM, and NV are blue.

Willard and his genius advisors are now going to suck up to the old, Midwest, conservative whites. Of course, MI is also too blue for Willard to have any hope there, and OH is very close. Thing is, even if Willard wins Ohio, Obama is still over 300 EV.

coralway - read some new/other polls!
RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html#safe_sea ts)
CO & NV - toss-ups
NM - only leaning toward obama - not yet blue - just baby blue; PA, too!
MI - in the toss-up column

got anything fair and balanced to report - or just more cockeyed info? ;)

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Say what you will or will wht you say, irrespective of who made the call the fact is that knives and forks were removed from the tables of adults. This decision speaks volumes. WOW!

TURN THE VOLUME DOWN.....:laugh:

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"To suggest that the secret service confers with the president before every event to get Obama's suggestions for his security is complete lunacy. The secret service's job is to protect the president."

Protection does not matter whether it is elected Hispanic leaders or the Future Farmers of America. Precautions have to be taken in every situation.

well i could not find it reported that the kitchen cut up meat for the diners and removed the knives and forks from the diners when romney spoke the day before - did you? maybe the secret service forgot about or just plain ignored any precaution there? wonder if the secret service had an as yet unreported 'taste tester' in the kitchen, too! ;)

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They should have just served hand held food :beer3:

or just cocktails! would have loved to see the reporting on that! ;)

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If you read the article in Politico, you will see that this is a decision made by the Secret Service, not President Obama. The policy, as is explained in the article, is when the president is seated at the dais, as he is at the White House Correspondents Dinner, these restrictions do not apply. However, when the president is mingling with the crowd, no utensils are allowed. How can a secret service agent distinguish a real knife from an eating utensil from a few feet away?

at least that's the reporter's take on it, eh? will we ever know the fact[s] behind the story? who really cares - the entire thread is just so much fun and is so funny! :)

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They should have just served hand held food :beer3:

Posh08 toothpicks were not allowed either

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TURN THE VOLUME DOWN.....:laugh:

DaleMN sorry about the volume but the incident blows my mind What is this country coming to?

PS I emailed my friend from Duluth. He states the floods have done some very serious damage estimated at over $100,000,000. Most people without flood insurance state and federal officials there assessing the situation. My friend had a taste of water in his basement but otherwise is safe.

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"To suggest that the secret service confers with the president before every event to get Obama's suggestions for his security is complete lunacy. The secret service's job is to protect the president."

Protection does not matter whether it is elected Hispanic leaders or the Future Farmers of America. Precautions have to be taken in every situation.

Oh, is there a story where the Future Farmers of America were asked to "fork over" their forks??

Or is it still only Latinos who are suspect around the President with sharp metal objects?

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DaleMN sorry about the volume but the incident blows my mind What is this country coming to?

PS I emailed my friend from Duluth. He states the floods have done some very serious damage estimated at over $100,000,000. Most people without flood insurance state and federal officials there assessing the situation. My friend had a taste of water in his basement but otherwise is safe.

Glad your friend is safe.

Here is a point, though. Conservative folks want to keep government OUT of their lives. However, let something bad happen like a flood, and those same people are the first ones in line for government assistance. Everyone has the opportunity to buy flood insurance, I believe, but most do not since there has not been a flood in ages. Well, they made their choice and now, should not ask the intrusive government to step in and help them.

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or just cocktails! would have loved to see the reporting on that! ;)

Margaritas could have been interesting. :icon_twisted:

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Glad your friend is safe.

Here is a point, though. Conservative folks want to keep government OUT of their lives. However, let something bad happen like a flood, and those same people are the first ones in line for government assistance. Everyone has the opportunity to buy flood insurance, I believe, but most do not since there has not been a flood in ages. Well, they made their choice and now, should not ask the intrusive government to step in and help them.

???......I think your getting your disasters confused. It was the liberal center of your party that screamed for help and the head of GW Bush on a platter when they were deluged in the heart of Mississippi.

In the heart of the country the people got together and helped themselves instead of waiting for government to take care of them. The very conservative state of Utah are self reliant Americans who've taken care of themselves for generations and haven't been turned into the entitlement class dependents of the government as are/were the people of New Orleans.

This is true of all the heartland states. They took care of themselves and then accepted what help was offered in the rebuilding. They blamed no one.


Iowa flooding vs New Orleans flooding (http://officespam.chattablogs.com/archives/2009/06/iowa-floods-vs.html)

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DaleMN sorry about the volume but the incident blows my mind What is this country coming to?

PS I emailed my friend from Duluth. He states the floods have done some very serious damage estimated at over $100,000,000. Most people without flood insurance state and federal officials there assessing the situation. My friend had a taste of water in his basement but otherwise is safe.

Duluth is a mess as well as Moose Lake and Carlton. Don't think anyone ever expected their homes to be flooded. On the Minnesota River and the Red River yes....but not in NE MN. The weather has been ruthless in many, many places but I best not mention global warning and you, Bucco & Richie will get your dander up. :laugh:

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Here is a point, though. Conservative folks want to keep government OUT of their lives. However, let something bad happen like a flood, and those same people are the first ones in line for government assistance. Everyone has the opportunity to buy flood insurance, I believe, but most do not since there has not been a flood in ages. Well, they made their choice and now, should not ask the intrusive government to step in and help them.

I don't think you can back this up with examples, can you?

I believe that who ever you back politically does not matter in a disaster.
That is what "we the people" and the money we send to the government is about.
Also I believe that each person should make the choice and live by that decision if something happens and then hope that you live in an area that pulls together. Also if the government has a program to help in a disaster, then great, but it should not be a bailout. It should be food, water, clothes, TEMPORARY housing and that is it. Not replacing everything as if you had insurance. If you can't get insurance, then there is probably a reason for that so DON"T LIVE THERE!
In an area that is not known to flood then everybody should pitch in and help in any way they can and then move on instead of trying to find someone to blame for their plight!

So Fema is a hand out Humm! So what does that make all the other stuff that is given out as a right?
And if you could please back up your assertion that "Conservative folks"
walk around with their hands out, I would be surprised!

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???......I think your getting your disasters confused. It was the liberal center of your party that screamed for help and the head of GW Bush on a platter when they were deluged in the heart of Mississippi.

In the heart of the country the people got together and helped themselves instead of waiting for government to take care of them. The very conservative state of Utah are self reliant Americans who've taken care of themselves for generations and haven't been turned into the entitlement class dependents of the government as are/were the people of New Orleans.

This is true of all the heartland states. They took care of themselves and then accepted what help was offered in the rebuilding. They blamed no one.


Iowa flooding vs New Orleans flooding (http://officespam.chattablogs.com/archives/2009/06/iowa-floods-vs.html)

Floods are a terrible thing to endure. I would be very hesitant to call anyone who has been in a flood "an entitlement class dependent of the government".

Read the attached link about the floods in Iowa and you will see the frustration and it sounds like some blaming, too.

Anyhow, to Rubicon, I was not getting on your good friend at all. Very glad that he is safe from flooding in Duluth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/us/28cedar.html

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Duluth is a mess as well as Moose Lake and Carlton. Don't think anyone ever expected their homes to be flooded. On the Minnesota River and the Red River yes....but not in NE MN. The weather has been ruthless in many, many places but I best not mention global warning and you, Bucco & Richie will get your dander up. :laugh:

DaleMN: I admire your persistence but just because Duluth experienced flooding doesn't mean that the logical deduction is that it is a product global warming. Besides, global warming given the millions and millions of years of the earth's existence may be a natural occuring cycle.

Back to the original theme of this thread. Obama/secret service felt it necessary to pull knives and forks from the tables. I am surprised because any amateur who has watched a crime show has seen that a ball point pen to the neck is a very effective weapon. Did the secret service think about that sceanrio or were they too busy checking out the local talent?

Don't forget that Obama about doubled his secret service staff. What does that tell you. Hmmmmmmm. "Elementary my dear DaleMN" "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable" must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes

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DaleMN: I admire your persistence but just because Duluth experienced flooding doesn't mean that the logical deduction is that it is a product global warming. Besides, global warming given the millions and millions of years of the earth's existence may be a natural occuring cycle.

Back to the original theme of this thread. Obama/secret service felt it necessary to pull knives and forks from the tables. I am surprised because any amateur who has watched a crime show has seen that a ball point pen to the neck is a very effective weapon. Did the secret service think about that sceanrio or were they too busy checking out the local talent?

Don't forget that Obama about doubled his secret service staff. What does that tell you. Hmmmmmmm. "Elementary my dear DaleMN" "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable" must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes

First, I did not mean to imply that global warming caused the Duluth flood. I do beleive global warming is real and to ignore it is unwise at best and catastrophic at worst. It seems to me that the right wing, while always talking about 'our kids and grandkids', is really very unconcerned with the future of our planet, people included.
Secondingly, increasing secret service staff, tells me that there is a very racist, very hateful segment of our society that can't stand having an African American as the POTUS. A segment that really is uninformed and largely unintelligent who hangs on the words of Fox news as truth, can't form opinions of their own, even listens to the 'largely innocent' voice of The Villages right wingers. And the NRA doesn't help. Off my soapbox now. :doh:

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Secondingly, increasing secret service staff, tells me that there is a very racist, very hateful segment of our society that can't stand having an African American as the POTUS. A segment that really is uninformed and largely unintelligent who hangs on the words of Fox news as truth, can't form opinions of their own, even listens to the 'largely innocent' voice of The Villages right wingers. And the NRA doesn't help. Off my soapbox now. :doh:

As far as your "secondingly" statement...I honestly believe that people are really starting to see through and tire of the whole race issue.

Barone: Obama backers use race as alibi for ebbing support | WashingtonExaminer.com (http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-obama-backers-use-race-as-alibi-for-ebbing-support/article/2500418)

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Secondingly, increasing secret service staff, tells me that there is a very racist, very hateful segment of our society that can't stand having an African American as the POTUS. A segment that really is uninformed and largely unintelligent who hangs on the words of Fox news as truth, can't form opinions of their own, even listens to the 'largely innocent' voice of The Villages right wingers. And the NRA doesn't help. Off my soapbox now.

First I really don't get the part where left leaning supporters of Obama feel the need to say that the right is "unintelligent" and "can't form opinions".
What is that? Does it make you feel bigger, better, smarter, what?

Second, don't even think about the POTUS as black, white or anything other than a man UNTIL people like you feel the need to point it out.

Third, Has MSNBC been fully checked out now and reports only the abosolute truth.

Each side has there own news that leans their way, more left than right ones, however that does not make the people watching them "unintelligent".
Hearing how racist I am is getting really old and is proof that reaching across the aisle is not what you are interested in.
I guess I could say then that left wingers who don't want a white POTUS are racist. There is the same amount of truth in that statement as yours.

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Wow, Rubicon, you had better watch out with your statements like, "Besides, global warming given the millions and millions of years of the earth's existence may be a natural occuring cycle."

The extreme right (Tea Party) might censure you for acknowledging that the Earth is so old and not the 7 to 10 thousand years old that creationists believe. :22yikes:

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Hearing how racist I am is getting really old and is proof that reaching across the aisle is not what you are interested in.
I guess I could say then that left wingers who don't want a white POTUS are racist. There is the same amount of truth in that statement as yours.

Well said...but they just won't get it...:icon_bored:

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Well said...but they just won't get it...:icon_bored:

Get what?....I don't get it?? :doh: