Some Villages Workers don't Think Morse is a Great Boss

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I happened across this link regarding the thoughts of one Village worker regarding Morse's request for campaign contributions to the Romney campaign.
Daily Kos: My millionaire boss hit me up for a Romney donation (UPDATED w/company name) (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/01/1104886/-My-millionaire-boss-hit-me-up-for-a-Romney-donation)

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Administrator, this belongs in political not general discussion. Typical election year propaganda................

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Agree Chuckster:BigApplause:

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...this guy dosen't smile on the way to work each day.

The only difference between Morse's letter and one I used to get each year when I was working was that I was required to donate 1% of my salary, by check, submitted to the CEO's office for subsequent deposit into the company's PAC. That way the CEO could decide where to make the contributions.

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I read the artilcle and must say first, they should be glad they had a job, second, why would you stay at the same job part time with no benefits and low pay that long? Third, It made them get off their but and start a new business and now will find out what it is like from the other side, that is unless they do this under the table and that speaks for it'self.
Fourth, I believe the employer ASK them to give not took it like the unions and then use it as they wish.
It was the employees choice to give or not and they did not.
If keeping Obama in is that important to them then give to Obama. It does not seem that Obama has made their plight any better.

Finally I would say their is lots more to this story than the author would like you to know plus the employer is the winner in this story because they no longer have this person on the pay role.

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...this guy dosen't smile on the way to work each day.

The only difference between Morse's letter and one I used to get each year when I was working was that I was required to donate 1% of my salary, by check, submitted to the CEO's office for subsequent deposit into the company's PAC. That way the CEO could decide where to make the contributions.

On a similar vein, I often donated $2.24 to the University of Minnesota Law School just to stop their-- what seems weekly-- donation requests. They just keep calling until I give in to their requests for donations and often via cell phones from law students who I assume just work from Law School Alumni lists.

I do not see that Morse requires his employees to donate and see no indication that they keep records of who has given how much to Mitt Romney. They could also give a very small amount.

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Can't wait till this character starts selling ice cream on the street (I'm assuming here in TV) and has to deal with the day-to-day BS like the health department, sales tax, workman's comp, unemployment insurance, self employment tax and surly employees that don't give a sheet. Wonder if they will give benefits to their part-time employees.

He should have signed his letter "Just another clueless MORON".

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Administrator, this belongs in political not general discussion. Typical election year propaganda................

my comment is not worth the grief I'll get back.

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All political ads and pleas contain more than a bit of propaganda. This is definitely a political post and is where it belongs.

On a side note; who hasn't worked with people who hate their jobs. I had a good job and worked with many who hated their jobs and/or hated their lives to boot.

This letter writer applied for and accepted the part-time job he has and is now bitter about it. I really hope that the new business he's planning to launch comes off well for his sake. It's sad to wallow.

I'm willing to bet that far more employees of The Villages are not bitter souls like the writer of this diatribe to the Huffington Post.

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All political ads and pleas contain more than a bit of propaganda. This is definitely a political post and is where it belongs.

On a side note; who hasn't worked with people who hate their jobs. I had a good job and worked with many who hated their jobs and/or hated their lives to boot.

This letter writer applied for and accepted the part-time job he has and is now bitter about it. I really hope that the new business he's planning to launch comes off well for his sake. It's sad to wallow.

I'm willing to bet that far more employees of The Villages are not bitter souls like the writer of this diatribe to the Huffington Post.

I can't disagree with most of this. I would be fairly certain your union used to send similar requests for the democratic candidate(s).

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ONE PERSON?????????

btk

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I can't disagree with most of this. I would be fairly certain your union used to send similar requests for the democratic candidate(s).

Yes, but not my employer. Of course the Teamsters being in the political theater by necessity and often promoted legislators thought to be sympathetic to union concerns and voiced these concerns to us often.

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my comment is not worth the grief I'll get back.

Know the feeling, deb - if you don't drink the kool-aid here you have to be un-American. Let the pile-on begin!

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Perhaps a stupid question but has anyone asked any other Village employees if this is, in fact, true ?

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Perhaps a stupid question but has anyone asked any other Village employees if this is, in fact, true ?

Another poster said they got the same letter. Apparently they edited it out.

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Another poster said they got the same letter. Apparently they edited it out.

It is a voluntary donation though. I would expect that those making the big bucks in Morseland would want to keep on his good side though and make a sizable contribution.

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It is a voluntary donation though. I would expect that those making the big bucks in Morseland would want to keep on his good side though and make a sizable contribution.

Make that a "voluntary" donation! Kinda like "Hello and welcome to the annual employee meeting, would everyone who doesn't like working here please stand up?"

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whole diatribe of the letter writer makes me glad i don't eat ice cream! [unless i can't help myself when at ambrosia's, lsl] ;)

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whole diatribe of the letter writer makes me glad i don't eat ice cream! [unless i can't help myself when at ambrosia's, lsl] ;)

So you would choose where to get your goods and services based on politics rather that value and quality?

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So you would choose where to get your goods and services based on politics rather that value and quality?


I know you did not ask me but my answer is YES.

It is called protest, (without living in tents and crapping all over the place and burning stuff that is).

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I know you did not ask me but my answer is YES.

It is called protest, (without living in tents and crapping all over the place and burning stuff that is).

So protest is good - unless it is someone else's cause?

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That is one difference between working for a private company and a government job.

When I worked for the Federal government in Washington DC, it was 100% illegal to ask for political donations of anyone or to even wear a campaign button when on the job. This was the Hatch Act. No matter whose administration it was in, this was very strictly enforced.

One of my co-workers had a funny campaign poster he had gotten from a friend. It was for a Sheriff in some Southern state like Mississippi and the candidate's name was "Bubba" something and the picture on the poster showed a stereotypical Southern Sheriff. My co-worker was told this was a violation of the Hatch Act (even though he had it up only for humor) and he had to remove it immediately.

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Originally Posted by notlongnow
I know you did not ask me but my answer is YES.

It is called protest, (without living in tents and crapping all over the place and burning stuff that is).

Originally Posted by eweissenbach
So protest is good - unless it is someone else's cause? __________________



Boy, I need to not leave so much space between my lines because you will fill them right in!
(this space reserved for what I mean not what you think I mean)
I have no problem with protest. I have a problem with destruction of public and private property and just general lawlessness, I don't know like maybe rape and theft and health risk. I think that is just bad behaivior.
Not buying from someone or not going to a movie or not using their service is voting with your bank account and not destroying stuff.
So do you think any kind of protest is Okay?

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I have no problem with an economic protest of a product, service, or store when I believe they have done something politically wrong or irresponsible in some way. The economic protest like that is called a "boycott" and it is felt when enough people feel the same way and refuse to buy from the store or manufacturer.

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Make that a "voluntary" donation! Kinda like "Hello and welcome to the annual employee meeting, would everyone who doesn't like working here please stand up?"

You think Morse is "requesting" that his employees show him a canceled check or something?

Or do you think he's traveling around with a "Romney Donation" bucket?

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You think Morse is "requesting" that his employees show him a canceled check or something?

Or do you think he's traveling around with a "Romney Donation" bucket?

Let's review the O.P.s link shall we? According to the person who submitted this the letter from Morse stated:

Enclosed is a postage paid envelope for your contribution along with a simple form that must accompany your gift. We will gather all of these forms and contributions and present them to Mitt and Ann ... letting them know that "The Villages family" is "all in" as we work together to change the future of our nation!

In other words, yes the employees need to show "him" (the organization) the form and the check apparently.

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Let's review the O.P.s link shall we? According to the person who submitted this the letter from Morse stated:

Enclosed is a postage paid envelope for your contribution along with a simple form that must accompany your gift. We will gather all of these forms and contributions and present them to Mitt and Ann ... letting them know that "The Villages family" is "all in" as we work together to change the future of our nation!

In other words, yes the employees need to show "him" (the organization) the form and the check apparently.

I guess It kind of went in "one ear and out the other". It didn't register with me. I'm sorry about that slip up.

This is kind of a sleazy thing to do. Even as a Romney supporter, I have to agree with you on this now.

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My husband was a Suburban Chicago firefighter (good, solid union job) in our previous life. I don't recall us ever receiving any requests for Presidential campaign contributions from either side.

After reading all the above posts, I want to ask this question. If you had a job and your employer sent you a letter requesting you to contribute to Obama's Presidential campaign fund....be honest....would you resent it? Would you contribute? Would you fear for your job if you didn't?

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My husband was a Suburban Chicago firefighter (good, solid union job) in our previous life. I don't recall us ever receiving any requests for Presidential campaign contributions from either side.

After reading all the above posts, I want to ask this question. If you had a job and your employer sent you a letter requesting you to contribute to Obama's Presidential campaign fund....be honest....would you resent it? Would you contribute? Would you fear for your job if you didn't?

Your husband had no say in where his dues went as a political contribution at all !!!

HOWEVER, to directly answer your question, I would NOT contribute in anyway and easy to say when retired but would not fear for my job because if proven I lost my job for that reason...well, you understand.

All of this and I still have difficulty believing this entire story. Sorry, that is not a defense of The Villages, Gary Morse, but just a logical response to me....everyone going off on a posting by someone you dont know on a blog in todays age is just a bit questionable, to me anyway !

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My husband was a Suburban Chicago firefighter (good, solid union job) in our previous life. I don't recall us ever receiving any requests for Presidential campaign contributions from either side.

After reading all the above posts, I want to ask this question. If you had a job and your employer sent you a letter requesting you to contribute to Obama's Presidential campaign fund....be honest....would you resent it? Would you contribute? Would you fear for your job if you didn't?

My union is and was always far more supportive of Democrat candidates. I was very involved in local union activities and was one who could be counted on without question when manpower was needed.

Everyone who knew me knew my political views, which by the way, were held by more than a few other Teamsters. It was never an issue and never kept me from being instrumental in my union's activities.

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debzaranti, Do you know if firefighters who worked in Chicago were ever asked to contribute? Even though the unions would support them 100% I can't imagine the Daley's not using every means possible for election money.

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In cook co. il that is chicago and suburbs and had a civil service job as supervisor or above you were expected to sell tickets to fund raising events.Dems would give you tickets and would have to sell.If not all, most would pay for them out of their pocket.

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debzaranti, Do you know if firefighters who worked in Chicago were ever asked to contribute? Even though the unions would support them 100% I can't imagine the Daley's not using every means possible for election money.I don't think there's ever been any allegations of illegal fund raising by Richie Daley. But former Governor George Ryan is currently in federal prison for illegal fund raising and selling drivers' licenses while he was Secretary of State.