Governor Rick Scott's health care stance

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3.8 million people in Florida with no health insurance and governor
Scott says he will not impement the Affordable Health Care Act
even with the Supreme Court declaring the tax mandate constitutional.
The Medicaid portion of the bill will go into efect in 2014 whether the
governor wants it or not. The cost is paid by the federal government
and will will be implemented with the state government's help or not.
The governor can hide his head in the sand but this law will be in place to give state residents the health care that they need.

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3.8 million people in Florida with no health insurance and governor
Scott says he will not impement the Affordable Health Care Act
even with the Supreme Court declaring the tax mandate constitutional.
The Medicaid portion of the bill will go into efect in 2014 whether the
governor wants it or not. The cost is paid by the federal government
and will will be implemented with the state government's help or not.
The governor can hide his head in the sand but this law will be in place to give state residents the health care that they need.

This state and several others to begin are involved and it is increasing, unexpectedly, costs to the state. I think many more will back out once the political fires have settled. States have budgets as well as...oops,,,US does not have a budget...but most states do.

Another reason this law is just a complete unfunded boondoogle. As Chief Justice Roberts said on the SCOTUS ruling...

"“We do not consider whether the Act embodies sound policies. That judgment is entrusted to the Nation’s elected leaders.”

“Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation’s elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”

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Vote him out next election. He is not good for Florida....the health care fraud executive.

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He's my hero.

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3.8 million people in Florida with no health insurance and governor
Scott says he will not impement the Affordable Health Care Act
even with the Supreme Court declaring the tax mandate constitutional.
The Medicaid portion of the bill will go into efect in 2014 whether the
governor wants it or not. The cost is paid by the federal government
and will will be implemented with the state government's help or not.
The governor can hide his head in the sand but this law will be in place to give state residents the health care that they need.

Perhaps Scott is afraid the legislation will make fraudulent claims more difficult to score.

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Governor Rick Scott is rejecting 20.05 billion dollars of federal funds to expand Medicaid which will deny 951,622 people coverage. Meanwhile, Florida has the third highest number of uninsured people in the country. Many other republican governors, including Christie and Jindel, are doing the same thing.


GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/07/02/509464/gop-governors-may-turn-down-258-billion-in-obamacare-funds-leave-92-million-americans-uninsured/)

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Governor Rick Scott is rejecting 20.05 billion dollars of federal funds to expand Medicaid which will deny 951,622 people coverage. Meanwhile, Florida has the third highest number of uninsured people in the country. Many other republican governors, including Christie and Jindel, are doing the same thing.


GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/07/02/509464/gop-governors-may-turn-down-258-billion-in-obamacare-funds-leave-92-million-americans-uninsured/)

Not MANY ....ALL are rejecting it. Were they ever consulted by this President when he and congress wrote this bill about passing this cost off and it was done for one reason, and with time (maybe not tonight as I am busy) I will get the quote when asked about cost justification this was mentioned.....CBO used it to cost justify.

You think this will be limited to these states thus far...my opinion, not even close..as with many business, people are running from this thing. Democrats are not going to opt out in an election year but what a bill, huh.....it is a cornucopia of "stuff"



You can try and put a guilt trip on anyone.....but do not ignore the impetus for the grief !

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Fortunately for the 950,000 people of Florida, the legislature will get the last word and it is doubtful they won't accept the money in an election year. The same thing happened with the stimulus money when all the GOP governors rejected it on principle, but eventually accepted it.

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I'm sure Rick Scott will be a one term governor

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Governor Rick Scott is rejecting 20.05 billion dollars of federal funds to expand Medicaid which will deny 951,622 people coverage. Meanwhile, Florida has the third highest number of uninsured people in the country. Many other republican governors, including Christie and Jindel, are doing the same thing.


GOP Governors May Turn Down $258 Billion In Obamacare Funds, Leave 9.2 Million Americans Uninsured | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/07/02/509464/gop-governors-may-turn-down-258-billion-in-obamacare-funds-leave-92-million-americans-uninsured/)

Just shows how caring he and his right wing cohorts are towards people in need. Not surprising.:yuck:

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Relevant: Derailing the Medicaid Expansion: Chief Justice Roberts Gets This One Right | Advancing a Free Society (http://www.advancingafreesociety.org/exclusive/topics/health-care/derailing-the-medicaid-expansion-chief-justice-roberts-gets-this-one-right/)

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Just shows how caring he and his right wing cohorts are towards people in need. Not surprising.:yuck:

Yesterday, when asked by Chris Wallace about the 30 million uninsured, minority leader Mitch McConnell said "that's not the issue". Governor Rick Scott doesn't have to worry about his approval rating. It rarely gets out of the 20% range. Those 20% are his faithful tea party supporters. He couldn't get elected dog catcher.

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Here we go.A governor gets it right but those who feel entitled are going to scream,They will call him names what ever to get their way.Don't have the the sense to read what it will cost states and where will the money come from.Lord knows they won't want to kick in a dime

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Here we go.A governor gets it right but those who feel entitled are going to scream,They will call him names what ever to get their way.Don't have the the sense to read what it will cost states and where will the money come from.Lord knows they won't want to kick in a dime

In this entire discussion, states and the federal law, in a country that you hear every day is about to go "over the cliff" NOBODY wants to deal with how we pay for all of this. Better somebody pay attention !!! You dont want this to be the straw that broke the camels back.

I do not know who is right or wrong financially with the states right now. Predictably it is all political at this point, but the cost needs to be discussed at some point. Playing this political game of trying to make people feel guilty is sort of dumb unless you just dont care of our direction in this country !

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In this entire discussion, states and the federal law, in a country that you hear every day is about to go "over the cliff" NOBODY wants to deal with how we pay for all of this. Better somebody pay attention !!! You dont want this to be the straw that broke the camels back.

I do not know who is right or wrong financially with the states right now. Predictably it is all political at this point, but the cost needs to be discussed at some point. Playing this political game of trying to make people feel guilty is sort of dumb unless you just dont care of our direction in this country !

Ding ding ding, we have a correct answer.

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In my life time I can remember when a older family member was old people would get medical care and keep them at home.Today people try to hide assets and get them on Medicaid and place in facilities at tax payers exp. Nothing but greedy people who see nothing wrong with this.You wonder why country is broke,all you have to do is open your eyes look around.

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Governor Rick Scott has appointed himself chairman of the death panel. A poor person, living in Florida, who is eligible for medicaid and has cancer will not get treatment after Scott rejects 20.05 billion dollars in federal funds. That same person living in Maryland would receive treatment.

Imagine the calls Scott must be receiving today from his hospital CEO buddies asking him if he has completely lost his marbles. Scott wants these same hospitals to continue giving free care to poor people after refusing to expand medicaid. We all know that everybody pays for the uninsured to get care in emergency rooms. All the taxpayer dollars paid by Florida citizens and sent to Washington for medicaid will now go to other states, and close to one million people in Florida will remain uninsured.

Meanwhile, Scott travels the state and visits the airwaves dispensing false information.



http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/politifact-florida-fact-checking-gov-rick-scott-on-the-health-care-law/1238390

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In my life time I can remember when a older family member was old people would get medical care and keep them at home.Today people try to hide assets and get them on Medicaid and place in facilities at tax payers exp. Nothing but greedy people who see nothing wrong with this.You wonder why country is broke,all you have to do is open your eyes look around.

Would you personally saddle your child with having you live with him/her and their family if you were very old, borderline senile, needed help with dressing, bathing, and sanitary needs or would you expect to be put into an assisted living facility or nursing home at the child's full expense that would eat up all their savings quickly?

Not being arguementive - just curious.

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A quick Google search shows why so many Governors want nothing to do with the expanded Medicaid part of the AFA. An in depth analysis of the impacts on the five most populous states was done by The Cato Institute. A link is provided below. The study shows that Florida's Medicaid expenditures would double by 2020 and triple by 2030. This level of expenditure cannot be supported even if Florida returns to its pre recession growth rate returns.

By law, Florida must balance its budget every year. Governor Scott could choose to close his eyes and wait out the rest of his term. Thankfully he has chosen instead to look at the budget impacts well down the road. Getting involved with this program now will do severe economic damage to the state down the line. Florida simply cannot afford this.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/researchnotes/WorkingPaper-4.pdf

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Would you personally saddle your child with having you live with him/her and their family if you were very old, borderline senile, needed help with dressing, bathing, and sanitary needs or would you expect to be put into an assisted living facility or nursing home at the child's full expense that would eat up all their savings quickly?

Not being arguementive - just curious.

No,But hiding your assets so can give to your family makes them no better then a common thief.

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I will tell you right now with no fear of contradiction, that in this election year it will be by political party but the cost to the states is absolutely stunning.

Any state that does this will be the next Wisconsin. The teachers, etc will suffer because this is being pawned off to the states.....the states, including Dems tried to tell the administration they needed an opt out and they refused until the SCOTUS recognized what was happening and ruled they do have an option.

There may be states that can afford it.....but most cannot even get close to this and in 2013 you will see them jumping ship in droves which then drives up the cost to the federal government which has already a wishy washy plan to fund the bill.

You can talk politics and party all you want but the states and the country are in deep financial doo doo and there is not a heap of money for us to just grab on to.

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I will tell you right now with no fear of contradiction, that in this election year it will be by political party but the cost to the states is absolutely stunning.

Any state that does this will be the next Wisconsin. The teachers, etc will suffer because this is being pawned off to the states.....the states, including Dems tried to tell the administration they needed an opt out and they refused until the SCOTUS recognized what was happening and ruled they do have an option.

There may be states that can afford it.....but most cannot even get close to this and in 2013 you will see them jumping ship in droves which then drives up the cost to the federal government which has already a wishy washy plan to fund the bill.

You can talk politics and party all you want but the states and the country are in deep financial doo doo and there is not a heap of money for us to just grab on to.

Your beating a dead horse.Many that post here want it all and debt doesn't matter.

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When gas is $25.00 a gallon and bread is $10.00 a loaf let the fun begin.

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The response by some of the posters points to exactly why otherwise good politicians go bad. You vote them in to make changes, take a hard line. They do and then you scream at them for being fiscally responsible. do they still teach logical reasoning in school anymore?...that's a rhetorical question in casesome of you didn't know.

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The response by some of the posters points to exactly why otherwise good politicians go bad. You vote them in to make changes, take a hard line. They do and then you scream at them for being fiscally responsible. do they still teach logical reasoning in school anymore?...that's a rhetorical question in casesome of you didn't know.

Actually, in Texas they have legislated against "critical thinking". And Rick Perry is a shining example of what the lack of critical thinking can render. :(

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one conclusion one could reach is the supporters think and worse believe those who profess to represent us in Washington.

Another one would be that they have no idea what so ever about the concept of not spending more than you have. And if they do they have no ability to transcribe it to the federal government.

The ONLY difference is the numbers are bigger. And those in Washington are not held accountable/responsible for the accounts being over drawn......as we all are.

And the worst one of all they do not care since it does not directly affect them...........YET!!!!!

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