TV ... an Oasis in FL

[Midge538]

Twilight in the Sunshine State: Florida's Vision of Boomer-Land (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/florida-economy_n_1660341.html)

[kbace6]

An interesting article. I think it paints a fair picture with pros and cons.

[eweissenbach]

An interesting article. I think it paints a fair picture with pros and cons.

I agree. This is an article everyone on the forum should read.

[graciegirl]

WHO is this person calling old????chilout

Girls? Get your squirt guns!!!!

Just kidding Admin.

He (the admin) sure takes the fun outa calling the posse together.

Of course he (the admin) is REALLY young.

[Bogie Shooter]

The comments about TV are all fair, however, the article covers mostly the economic state of the rest of Florida.

[kbace6]

I agree Bogie Shooter, it was a bit arduous to get through, but some good information and food for thought before making the final move to TV and FL in general.

[gomoho]

Thanks for sharing - enjoyed the article.

[2BNTV]

The comments about TV are all fair, however, the article covers mostly the economic state of the rest of Florida.

:agree:

[rp001]

Even though the article is a good read I'd question the numbers..He said Fl will have to create 1million jobs and then stated it was roughly the population of three cities..I am pretty sure Miami would make those numbers by itself. That makes me question the "facts" as stated..I have been a very long (50plus yrs)resident of Florida..I lived in Dade and Broward counties..At one time I remember the largest population was seniors..South beach was Jewish seniors, south Broward was Italian American seniors..This has changed so dramatically. Now the population of both counties has changed to primarily Latins..It has come an international hub and is totally different than the rest of Florida today...

My point is that the only thing we can be sure of is it will change, and get older..That is not necessarily a bad thing..I also took exception to his assumprions that seniors were really not supporters of education..I'm a Democrat and have Many Republican friends that are dedicated to having a great educational system..That is our future as a nation and the folks in the Villages are smart enough to recognize that...

[ijusluvit]

Today's NEWSWEEK's effort to be sensational labels 18-35 year-olds as "Generation Screwed".

For me, thoughts provoked by the article include the real possibility that young people may not have the opportunities we did. There were jobs and choices for the non-college bound and there was little question that a college degree would get us on a promising career path. Now what's certain for many in school is deep debt. And will there be a Villages for them?

Since we boomers have had such a huge impact and really forced society to cater to us because of our numbers, I think we have to think of others now, especially the young. No matter how hard we worked for what we got, I don't think retirement allows us to ignore giving strong support for education and opportunity for them.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Interesting reading - thanks for posting the link.

Bill :)

[asianthree]

:agree:

[Pturner]

Twilight in the Sunshine State: Florida's Vision of Boomer-Land (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/florida-economy_n_1660341.html)

Hi Midge,
Thanks so much for this link. I posted a comment on the article, although I don't think my comment is up yet. :)

[ilovetv]

Regarding: "Last year, retirees purchased 2,307 homes in the Villages. It is the fastest-growing small community in the United States, according to Forbes. That growth is decidedly geriatric and it’s emblematic of what’s is happening across the entire country."

Since when is age 55 to 60 "decidedly geriatric"? Or even age 60 to 65????

The writer is truly an outsider looking in.

Did you seen any mention of how happy people are to be here, or that 50% of buyers in TV do not buy unless they can pay cash, by selling their previous home, and that they did not put themselves into a mortgage that now has them "underwater"?????

[Ohiogirl]

Since when is age 55 to 60 "decidedly geriatric"? Or even age 60 to 65????



Not old to us (the boomers) certainly, but if you were 25? Come on . . .

My father died at 42 - I was 16. It was tragic and awful, but I remember thinking that at least he was old and had lived a full life!!!???

It is all in your perspective. I went back to full-time work at age 50 after a divorce, was almost the oldest one in the entire office, and certainly the oldest among the new hires. Truly, all the recent college grads starting with me surely considered me to be if not geriatric, then certainly old.

They all thought it was "cute" that I had a boyfriend (what do you call them when they are 50 plus)?

It's the old story - 80 doesn't sound so old when you are 70, 70 doesn't sound bad anymore when you are 60 plus, and so on. But, try to get a job when you are 50 or 60 plus and being interviewed by someone who is 33 or thereabouts. They definitely think you are "geriatric," and I'm sure we did too when we were their age. Remember?

[RichieLion]

Interesting article. The writer seems like another guy looking at TV and shaking his head, though. I've seen enough of that type, but mostly it's people who've never been here.

Toojay's a "burger joint"?

[gmcneill]

I initially did not realize that this article was the topic of two separate threads, the other post was by allus.

My initial response appears below the dashed lines below.

Apparently, my take on the article is quite different from the other posters.
That's ok.

One observation regarding the use of the word "geriatrics": Ohiogirl I understand your points and comments, and I concur to some degree; however, I agree wi ilovetv objection
in this issue bc the author is writing as an investigative reporter, not as an op/ed. Consequently, the article content should be factual, accurate- which includes the use of words in proper context and in accordance with their generally accepted definition/meaning-, and devoid of hyperbole.

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I see no difference between a horse's a** and the author of the article.

While the article contains some accurate points (Hey! Nobody's perfect! The dopey author messed up and did get a few things right), generally it is an overwhelming array of misinformation, partial information, inaccuracies, faulty conclusions, errors, illogical deductions, outright stupidity, and stereotypical hyperbole tinged with ageism
and racism.

I am confident that my fellow TOTVers who are more intelligent or more eloquent- or both- than I will shred the author's assertions and suppositions. I defer comments regarding the specific content of the article to you, with one exception.

That exception is: I am incredulous that a Harvard professor would harbor, let alone express, such outrageously ignorant and blatantly bigoted thoughts. Embarrassingly pitiful.

[graciegirl]

I initially did not realize that this article was the topic of two separate threads, the other post was by allus.

My initial response appears below the dashed lines below.

Apparently, my take on the article is quite different from the other posters.
That's ok.

One observation regarding the use of the word "geriatrics": Ohiogirl I understand your points and comments, and I concur to some degree; however, I agree wi ilovetv objection
in this issue bc the author is writing as an investigative reporter, not as an op/ed. Consequently, the article content should be factual, accurate- which includes the use of words in proper context and in accordance with their generally accepted definition/meaning-, and devoid of hyperbole.

--
I see no difference between a horse's a** and the author of the article.

While the article contains some accurate points (Hey! Nobody's perfect! The dopey author messed up and did get a few things right), generally it is an overwhelming array of misinformation, partial information, inaccuracies, faulty conclusions, errors, illogical deductions, outright stupidity, and stereotypical hyperbole tinged with ageism
and racism.

I am confident that my fellow TOTVers who are more intelligent or more eloquent- or both- than I will shred the author's assertions and suppositions. I defer comments regarding the specific content of the article to you, with one exception.

That exception is: I am incredulous that a Harvard professor would harbor, let alone express, such outrageously ignorant and blatantly bigoted thoughts. Embarrassingly pitiful.


Like I said. The girls posse will fill our squirt guns and be on the ready if he comes back on campus. Who is he callin' geriatric????

[CaptJohn]

Interesting article. It definitely called Gracie and Midge 'old' ("almost everyone is old").
I also saw the word 'wrinkled'. Good job, folks. That reporter didn't figure out that the wrinkles were from smiles in fooling him into thinking there are old people in TV! Hope he didn't find out how much fun is going on. He might write on that next! :laugh:

[gmcneill]

Just knowing that you and the posse are armed and ready to ride has calmed me down. Thank you, GG.

[Barefoot]

Regarding: "Last year, retirees purchased 2,307 homes in the Villages. It is the fastest-growing small community in the United States, according to Forbes. That growth is decidedly geriatric and it’s emblematic of what’s is happening across the entire country."

Since when is age 55 to 60 "decidedly geriatric"? Or even age 60 to 65????


55 to 65 is decidedly geriatric when you're 20 or 30. I dimly remember a time when I thought that anyone with grey hair was ancient. Now I think anyone under 85 is a youngster. It's all relative!

[l2ridehd]

Thanks for posting the link. However the article leaves a lot to be desired and paints the picture the writer wants to show, not real information.

This "reporter" epitomizes what is wrong with most of the news we get today. Full of inaccurate, one sided, and bad information. He sought out interviews to support his pre determined premise, not digging to get the true picture with accurate information and real facts.

[Ragman]

I'd rather live in an oasis than the surrounding desert.

Most all articles written on TV have the " it's not the real world" slant. Frankly , that's why I moved here. I lived in the real world for over 60 years and I'm ready for a break.

Wonder where these reporters will want to live when they retire?

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