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Guest
07-25-2012, 07:01 PM
So obama is saying Romney is twisting what he said about business that an individual did not create his company. Just how dumb can you be to believe this. If you do you are dumber than a 5th grader . obama is clueless

Guest
07-25-2012, 07:31 PM
... and this is your typical Republican voter. Need I say more? :ohdear:

Guest
07-25-2012, 07:37 PM
... and this is your typical Republican voter. Need I say more? :ohdear:

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Guest
07-25-2012, 07:39 PM
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... and make it two typical Republican voters. :ohdear:

Guest
07-25-2012, 07:41 PM
... and make it two typical Republican voters. :ohdear:

You must have a lot of thoughts swimming around in your head, but your meanings here are not clear, except for your penchant for insults.

Guest
07-25-2012, 08:22 PM
not as good as you though.

Guest
07-25-2012, 08:49 PM
not nearly as good and frequent as him.

Guest
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
So obama is saying Romney is twisting what he said about business that an individual did not create his company. Just how dumb can you be to believe this. If you do you are dumber than a 5th grader . obama is clueless

If you choose to call others dumb and clueless, you might want to put together some cogent thoughts of your own.

Guest
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
Obama: "If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That. Someone Else Made That Happen" - YouTube (http://youtu.be/xFPzVp3MvFg)

Guest
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
If you choose to call others dumb and clueless, you might want to put together some cogent thoughts of your own.

DDoug is of the opinion that if a person believes that Romney is "twisting words" that you can actually hear Obama say, he believes that person would have to be as dumb as a 5th grader.

I think that a clear and cogent thought. Obviously you disagree, and that's fine, but it doesn't make DDoug's thought any less powerful.

Guest
07-26-2012, 06:47 AM
DDoug is of the opinion that if a person believes that Romney is "twisting words" that you can actually hear Obama say, he believes that person would have to be as dumb as a 5th grader.

I think that a clear and cogent thought. Obviously you disagree, and that's fine, but it doesn't make DDoug's thought any less powerful.

Nor any less cogent. :kiss:

Guest
07-26-2012, 06:57 AM
Just ignore both the libs, they are nothing but one line bait and switchers. They tag team with insults and lies just to have fun with people. Retirement must be really boring for them. Maybe they should go out and join the Obama campaign ... if he would even have them.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:25 AM
Obama: "If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That. Someone Else Made That Happen" - YouTube (http://youtu.be/xFPzVp3MvFg)

Kind of taken out of context. There is just one sentence in this YouTube.

If you fly an airplane though, it is working on the ideas of many inventors, pioneers, and others who perfected the airplane so that it could fly like it does.

That seems to be what Obama is saying that many others came before you so that you could deliver other people's groceries in the Villages, for instance. Or, create TOTV so that Villagers, wannabe Villagers, and others could talk about what Obama meant in this speech and other matters.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:29 AM
Here is something for the typical Democrat to ask themselves. This President has CLEARLY looked you in the eyes and LIED TO YOU. IS THIS THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S.A.??? BE HONEST. Let's put party aside and talk character???? This man INSULTS you everytime he LIES to you and thinks you are stupid enough to believe it. "You didn't build that, You didn't build that", YOu didn't build that" I can hear it over and over again and it makes my blood boil. Doesn't matter what party he is affiliated with. What he is telling the businessman who worked his butt off is "you didn't do this alone, you had help" the GOVERNMENT had its hand in it. You got help. Will other politicians lie? Of couse they will. Both parties also. But nothing excuses this man for what he truly believes in and that is NOT CAPITALISM. The ONLY way you can possibly vote for him is if this is YOUR BELIEF ALSO. if you truly feel that capitalism didn't make this country great!! The dreams, the innovations, the hard work etc... I remember my girlfriends parents working their butts off 12-18 hrs day to get their small business going and continue to run it. What a slab in the face to every american that is. There he is!! The REAL OBAMA!! If you don't see his MINDSET, then perhaps the title of this post was appropriate. You cannot deny his OWN WORDS!!! Watch it again and again and again. Let it sink into your Brain what this man is!! A socialist as I've stated so many times. A marxist in the White house!!!

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:46 AM
... and this is your typical Republican voter. Need I say more? :ohdear:

And you follow a crook like a sheep going to slaughter.I will say it again Rezko which you all sweep under the rug.Like I said I'm from Chicago and he is as crooked as they come.Had he been from the other party The press would have nailed him.Let me ask all of you this .Do you know anyone who bought property then sold part of it to someone at a big loss leaving the remainder worthless? Not a payoff? Explain it.No you won't

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:48 AM
I watch TV and read this sites posts, but I still don't see the problem with Obama other than over spending in some areas. I do not get the socialist Marxist comments. I am on Social Security and it makes my life great. Without social programs, so many would suffer. I think we should take a look at how to make more social programs help the elderly, the sick, the poor rather than try to tear them all down. We have social subsidizing of wealthy land owners like M Bachmann while so many go hungry. Take away farm subsidies and subsidize meals for the poor. I don't know, I just don't get the outrage about Obama when it comes to helping those that have difficulties for one reason or another.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:49 AM
Here is something for the typical Democrat to ask themselves. This President has CLEARLY looked you in the eyes and LIED TO YOU. IS THIS THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S.A.??? BE HONEST. Let's put party aside and talk character???? This man INSULTS you everytime he LIES to you and thinks you are stupid enough to believe it. "You didn't build that, You didn't build that", YOu didn't build that" I can hear it over and over again and it makes my blood boil. Doesn't matter what party he is affiliated with. What he is telling the businessman who worked his butt off is "you didn't do this alone, you had help" the GOVERNMENT had its hand in it. You got help. Will other politicians lie? Of couse they will. Both parties also. But nothing excuses this man for what he truly believes in and that is NOT CAPITALISM. The ONLY way you can possibly vote for him is if this is YOUR BELIEF ALSO. if you truly feel that capitalism didn't make this country great!! The dreams, the innovations, the hard work etc... I remember my girlfriends parents working their butts off 12-18 hrs day to get their small business going and continue to run it. What a slab in the face to every american that is. There he is!! The REAL OBAMA!! If you don't see his MINDSET, then perhaps the title of this post was appropriate. You cannot deny his OWN WORDS!!! Watch it again and again and again. Let it sink into your Brain what this man is!! A socialist as I've stated so many times. A marxist in the White house!!!

Actually read some of Marx's works before pushing him on President Obama. Marx was writing around 1848. Many of his ideas belong in that time framework. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto

I doubt if you will find any true Marxists in any position of power in 2012.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:55 AM
Nor any less cogent. :kiss:

This just puts your comprehension skills into question I'm sorry to inform you.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:57 AM
Kind of taken out of context. There is just one sentence in this YouTube.

If you fly an airplane though, it is working on the ideas of many inventors, pioneers, and others who perfected the airplane so that it could fly like it does.

That seems to be what Obama is saying that many others came before you so that you could deliver other people's groceries in the Villages, for instance. Or, create TOTV so that Villagers, wannabe Villagers, and others could talk about what Obama meant in this speech and other matters.

Pure spin.

What Obama is saying is that if you have a business it's not really yours. You've had so much "help" that your business is collective.

It's the priming for his true Marxist ideology, and make no mistake about it.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:09 AM
Kind of taken out of context. There is just one sentence in this YouTube.

If you fly an airplane though, it is working on the ideas of many inventors, pioneers, and others who perfected the airplane so that it could fly like it does.

That seems to be what Obama is saying that many others came before you so that you could deliver other people's groceries in the Villages, for instance. Or, create TOTV so that Villagers, wannabe Villagers, and others could talk about what Obama meant in this speech and other matters.

no one can say what obama 'meant' to say - only he knows that for sure. those who say they know what he meant can only ass/u/me same. obama is alleged to be an ultimate orator so i have to wonder if he intentionally put the phrase there so that folks could argue that his words were taken out of context or twisted.

the full 3 min clip is on youtube, but i am sick of hearing it! ;) it provides the context you mention, but it does not negate the fact that romney did not twist his words! it would not serve an obama attack if he claimed that romney twisted his 'intention' or took his words 'out of context!'

i, personally, believe he meant to say it. i also believe he would have been one heck of a lot smarter if he had simply added the word ALONE at the end of that phrase!

his handlers should NEVER let him go off teleprompter - look at what it does! ;)

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:12 AM
Here's the thing no one seems to consider, especially Obama and his sheep. There's been successful business men and entrepreneurs for 1000's of years. Even before the federal highway system or the internet that apparently Al Gore invented.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:40 AM
Here's the thing no one seems to consider, especially Obama and his sheep. There's been successful business men and entrepreneurs for 1000's of years. Even before the federal highway system or the internet that apparently Al Gore invented.







That is obvious - so what's your point?

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:44 AM
Here is something for the typical Democrat to ask themselves. This President has CLEARLY looked you in the eyes and LIED TO YOU. IS THIS THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S.A.??? BE HONEST. Let's put party aside and talk character???? This man INSULTS you everytime he LIES to you and thinks you are stupid enough to believe it. "You didn't build that, You didn't build that", YOu didn't build that" I can hear it over and over again and it makes my blood boil. Doesn't matter what party he is affiliated with. What he is telling the businessman who worked his butt off is "you didn't do this alone, you had help" the GOVERNMENT had its hand in it. You got help. Will other politicians lie? Of couse they will. Both parties also. But nothing excuses this man for what he truly believes in and that is NOT CAPITALISM. The ONLY way you can possibly vote for him is if this is YOUR BELIEF ALSO. if you truly feel that capitalism didn't make this country great!! The dreams, the innovations, the hard work etc... I remember my girlfriends parents working their butts off 12-18 hrs day to get their small business going and continue to run it. What a slab in the face to every american that is. There he is!! The REAL OBAMA!! If you don't see his MINDSET, then perhaps the title of this post was appropriate. You cannot deny his OWN WORDS!!! Watch it again and again and again. Let it sink into your Brain what this man is!! A socialist as I've stated so many times. A marxist in the White house!!!





Lies ??????? Bbbbwwaaaaaaaaaa ............. excuse me.

I dunno - you mean like Iraq has WMD's?

Or like Obama signed 928 executive orders since he took office?


Your posts are meant to be a joke, right? Who writes your stuff?

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:09 AM
This just puts your comprehension skills into question I'm sorry to inform you.

Huh?....I don't get it. :kiss:

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:12 AM
for those of us who heard what Obama said when he said it and then listen to his most recent oh this is what I meant speech.....the only dummy in the room is the one hoping to convince those who did not hear him. Those of us who did know he is backing up faster than his common sense will allow. OR......he really does think the average American is dumb.

It is occasions like this one that underscore why he uses prepared speeches for almost everything....except this time he did not.

btk

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:13 AM
Here is something for the typical Democrat to ask themselves. This President has CLEARLY looked you in the eyes and LIED TO YOU. IS THIS THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S.A.??? BE HONEST. Let's put party aside and talk character???? This man INSULTS you everytime he LIES to you and thinks you are stupid enough to believe it. "You didn't build that, You didn't build that", YOu didn't build that" I can hear it over and over again and it makes my blood boil. Doesn't matter what party he is affiliated with. What he is telling the businessman who worked his butt off is "you didn't do this alone, you had help" the GOVERNMENT had its hand in it. You got help. Will other politicians lie? Of couse they will. Both parties also. But nothing excuses this man for what he truly believes in and that is NOT CAPITALISM. The ONLY way you can possibly vote for him is if this is YOUR BELIEF ALSO. if you truly feel that capitalism didn't make this country great!! The dreams, the innovations, the hard work etc... I remember my girlfriends parents working their butts off 12-18 hrs day to get their small business going and continue to run it. What a slab in the face to every american that is. There he is!! The REAL OBAMA!! If you don't see his MINDSET, then perhaps the title of this post was appropriate. You cannot deny his OWN WORDS!!! Watch it again and again and again. Let it sink into your Brain what this man is!! A socialist as I've stated so many times. A marxist in the White house!!!

... and this is another example of your typical Republican voter. :22yikes:

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:13 AM
Here is something for the typical Democrat to ask themselves. This President has CLEARLY looked you in the eyes and LIED TO YOU. IS THIS THE TYPE OF PRESIDENT YOU WANT TO RUN THE U.S.A.??? BE HONEST. Let's put party aside and talk character???? This man INSULTS you everytime he LIES to you and thinks you are stupid enough to believe it. "You didn't build that, You didn't build that", YOu didn't build that" I can hear it over and over again and it makes my blood boil. Doesn't matter what party he is affiliated with. What he is telling the businessman who worked his butt off is "you didn't do this alone, you had help" the GOVERNMENT had its hand in it. You got help. Will other politicians lie? Of couse they will. Both parties also. But nothing excuses this man for what he truly believes in and that is NOT CAPITALISM. The ONLY way you can possibly vote for him is if this is YOUR BELIEF ALSO. if you truly feel that capitalism didn't make this country great!! The dreams, the innovations, the hard work etc... I remember my girlfriends parents working their butts off 12-18 hrs day to get their small business going and continue to run it. What a slab in the face to every american that is. There he is!! The REAL OBAMA!! If you don't see his MINDSET, then perhaps the title of this post was appropriate. You cannot deny his OWN WORDS!!! Watch it again and again and again. Let it sink into your Brain what this man is!! A socialist as I've stated so many times. A marxist in the White house!!!

He is the type of President I want. You and your cronies will never believe what he said but it is all true. No one....no one has built a business or been a success without the help of others. A wife, a family, a partner, a customer, a community, a government. That is what he was getting at. No man is an island. :grumpy:

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:14 AM
Huh?....I don't get it. :kiss:

I admire your sense of humor.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:19 AM
He is the type of President I want. You and your cronies will never believe what he said but it is all true. No one....no one has built a business or been a success without the help of others. A wife, a family, a partner, a customer, a community, a government. That is what he was getting at. No man is an island. :grumpy:

Add on to that; maybe a small business loan from a bank or the SBA or the VA.

These haters of the President will just pick apart words to get to their own objective which is to have a mainstream President without a foreign sounding name or different skin color.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:22 AM
from personal experience I can only respond to not being able to do it on your own with......BS!!!

Some of you are trying to make it sound as if the alleged "helpers" were the ones to get the credit to make it happen......and once again for the uninformed.....BS!!!!

And for those who continue to try to convince the thinking public what Obama was trying to say, not say or meant or didn't mean.....triple BS!!!!!!

btk

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:23 AM
own objective which is to have a mainstream President without a foreign sounding name or different skin color.

You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm done with your BS and you should be banned if for nothing else but pure stupidity. But, I guess he's doing what they always do. No intelligent thought or coherent argument so they insult, lie and accuse. Perfect partners for the President.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:30 AM
He is the type of President I want. You and your cronies will never believe what he said but it is all true. No one....no one has built a business or been a success without the help of others. A wife, a family, a partner, a customer, a community, a government. That is what he was getting at. No man is an island. :grumpy:

Add on to that; maybe a small business loan from a bank or the SBA or the VA.

These haters of the President will just pick apart words to get to their own objective which is to have a mainstream President without a foreign sounding name or different skin color.

So what is the point of these two posts above?

What are these posters trying to say with all their jargon about services people use in the pursuit of their dream and their business?

What's the ultimate statement here?

I can tell you, even if they won't ever say it plain and simple.

It's "collectivism"

I won't even get into Buggy's outrageous race-baiting. He destroy's his own credibility without any help.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:33 AM
You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm done with your BS. You should be banned. But, I guess he's doing what they always do. No intelligent thought or coherent argument so they insult, lie and accuse.

Hmmmm, must have hit a nerve -- perhaps too close to the unspoken truth?

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:45 AM
Are you really serious? Are you really one of those people who think that if you disagree with the presidents policies you're a racist? Really? Can you be that shallow and ignorant or is this just more troll BS?

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:49 AM
Hmmmm, must have hit a nerve -- perhaps too close to the unspoken truth?

Good point. I will keep an eye open for more hints.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:52 AM
The libs are hitting all new lows and they are so good at it.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:06 AM
Obama was suppose to be the great uniter. In my opinion he has set back race relations 50 years. Anyone who dares to disagree with him is automatically branded a racist. One thing I have learned in the last few years is that there are a lot of people who want to be taken care of from the cradle to the grave. This is a new revelation for me.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:19 AM
The man also managed to have his foes thrown off the ballot.He would have never been a senator had the other guys divorce not been brought into it.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:28 AM
And Junior would never have been POTUS if his daddy didn't appoint the Supreme Court Justices

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:33 AM
:icon_bored::icon_bored:

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:47 AM
Are you really serious? Are you really one of those people who think that if you disagree with the presidents policies you're a racist? Really? Can you be that shallow and ignorant or is this just more troll BS?

Says the gentleman waving the confederate flag.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:49 AM
And Junior would never have been POTUS if his daddy didn't appoint the Supreme Court Justices

In recounts he won,Do your homework before you post nonsense

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:59 AM
So what is the point of these two posts above?

What are these posters trying to say with all their jargon about services people use in the pursuit of their dream and their business?

What's the ultimate statement here?

I can tell you, even if they won't ever say it plain and simple.

It's "collectivism"

I won't even get into Buggy's outrageous race-baiting. He destroy's his own credibility without any help.

If it is that hard to understand I'll put it simply. Obama was not dissing small business success. He was saying that we are all this together. We should all be supporting and providing a climate where people can succeed. At least we should be helping each other...a concept foreign to you right wingers I guess. Everyone, to you, has to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Fooey :(

Guest
07-26-2012, 11:02 AM
Coralway, every recount that was done showed Bush the winner.

Guest
07-26-2012, 11:44 AM
OK I'm going to open up a storm but the posts from the left side if you will is an example of not understanding what is said(comprehension . Yes just read the words don't try to read into what is said. No no one really knows what obama meant but his words was an insult to the American people. I insult you you are not going to think oh he meant this thats ok,I think not. That crap of back stepping went out in grade school. Which leads me to say your dumber than a 5th grader.

Guest
07-26-2012, 11:51 AM
OK you are out in the mountains you're lost no one for miles around and its winter and the snow is 5 feet deep, you're freezing you have no food you're only companion your dog ran off down to one bullet in your gun. Who you going to call ,obama. Ha I don't think so you better pull your ass up and figure out how to make it. That's basically starting a business you're on your own baby.

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:13 PM
Obama was suppose to be the great uniter. In my opinion he has set back race relations 50 years. Anyone who dares to disagree with him is automatically branded a racist. One thing I have learned in the last few years is that there are a lot of people who want to be taken care of from the cradle to the grave. This is a new revelation for me.

From Kathyrn Lopez 7/26/ column in today's Daily sun quoting romney quoting Frederick Douglass "It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men." SallyJo your comments of from cradle to grave comment fit right in here.

Obama is a very weak individual. Consider that he would use race at every turn to his advantage. Consider further his hypocrisy when Obama would intentionally spew out bias in the form of "rich white men". Consider that his actions have divided not only this nation but many nations. consider that he is the epitome of the "artful dodger"

I recently watched the 1957 classic "The Bridge Over The River Kwai" and thought to myself that Alex Guiness"s character was analogous to Obama voters. They mistakenly lean on an idea of a bridge being so well built but forget the bridge's sole purpose is to bring destruction in fact to sow the seeds of their destruction. Liberals hang on to this idea called "Obama" failing to recognize that it can only lead to their destruction but the bridge, the idea of Obama is all that matters and they can see no further.

Liberals feel the end all is the re-election of Obama and in that pursuit they sow the seeds of all of our destructions.

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:24 PM
OK you are out in the mountains you're lost no one for miles around and its winter and the snow is 5 feet deep, you're freezing you have no food you're only companion your dog ran off down to one bullet in your gun. Who you going to call ,obama. Ha I don't think so you better pull your ass up and figure out how to make it. That's basically starting a business you're on your own baby.

What an exciting story. How does it end? Graduating to 6th grade?
Seriously, your analogy is sophmoric and ridiculous. :kiss:

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:34 PM
OK you are out in the mountains you're lost no one for miles around and its winter and the snow is 5 feet deep, you're freezing you have no food you're only companion your dog ran off down to one bullet in your gun. Who you going to call ,obama. Ha I don't think so you better pull your ass up and figure out how to make it. That's basically starting a business you're on your own baby.







Aren't you the least bit embarrassed posting this stuff?

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:36 PM
Coralway, every recount that was done showed Bush the winner.





Not true .........

THE FLORIDA RECOUNTS REVISITED (http://www.mtgriffith.com/web_documents/floridareview.htm)



What you mean to say is that every recount that the Court allowed showed Junior won. And we, as a Nation, were the big losers.

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:43 PM
If it is that hard to understand I'll put it simply. Obama was not dissing small business success. He was saying that we are all this together. We should all be supporting and providing a climate where people can succeed. At least we should be helping each other...a concept foreign to you right wingers I guess. Everyone, to you, has to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Fooey :(

DaleMN: Now don't get mad at me. Exactly when did Obama say what you said he said? Was it on his third try, fourth eleventh? He sure didn't say it the first time and ...Oooh sorry I lost count for the upmteeth time he has back tracked on his comments because he just cannot not always contain that Marxist attitude he keeping subdued until after the election.

How's the walleye fishing going?

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:53 PM
We all know that (junior) messed us up no one will deny that but obama is trying to kill you. And by the way you can't insult me or offend me because I don't give a s--t. You will all wonder what happened when sharia law is the only way to live in this country and that is where it's heading. It's being adopted in the schools now. obama is wanting more money for education. Only for the betterment of African Americans.Now listen before you go off half cocked. I don't care what race you are but you can't single out one group of people unless of course they are trying take over or destroy what you worked for. I would love to understand the background of some of the posters on this forum.

Guest
07-26-2012, 12:55 PM
the discussion about whether Bush won being POTUS has about as much sense as pursuing Obama does not have a real birth certificate.

No added value....both full of prejudice....both are at the K-6 level nyah, nyah, nyah arguments....are older than yesterday's news....the alive and awake do not care.

How about a today, here and now issue of substance?

btk

Guest
07-26-2012, 01:07 PM
The Spin Machine is on full speed cycle, but everyone who knows anything about this President knows what he meant and the word is, again, COLLECTIVISM.

The business you built really belongs to the state and the worker. It's Marxism 101.

Watch this for a clearer understanding of the mindset of our Socialist/Marxist president.

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: It's a Miracle! - YouTube (http://youtu.be/QXEoQJ7ZMZs)

Guest
07-26-2012, 02:38 PM
If it is that hard to understand I'll put it simply. Obama was not dissing small business success. He was saying that we are all this together. We should all be supporting and providing a climate where people can succeed. At least we should be helping each other...a concept foreign to you right wingers I guess. Everyone, to you, has to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Fooey :(

some of us conservatives didn't have boots - with or without straps! whenever my folks asked the liberals for boots for us kids they were told we didn't need them because we already had shoes! family had no choice but to go it on their own - without any government assistance. and so we did! took my parents about 23 years before they could afford to buy their first house - how about yours?

Guest
07-26-2012, 02:46 PM
some of us conservatives didn't have boots - with or without straps! whenever my folks asked the liberals for boots for us kids they were told we didn't need them because we already had shoes! family had no choice but to go it on their own - without any government assistance. and so we did! took my parents about 23 years before they could afford to buy their first house - how about yours?

I got my first house with a loan underwritten (guaranteed) by the Veterans Administration. That was a big help from the Government. This was because I was a veteran. My father got his first house with a VA loan, also, because he was a veteran.

Guest
07-26-2012, 02:54 PM
That might be where you got the loan but who paid for it who went to work to make the payments not obama not the government this guy is talking through his a-- he's a high school kid trying to make excuses for every thing he does

Guest
07-26-2012, 02:58 PM
I got my first house with a loan underwritten (guaranteed) by the Veterans Administration. That was a big help from the Government. This was because I was a veteran. My father got his first house with a VA loan, also, because he was a veteran.

my father was REJECTED from several branches of service and could never have the help of a veteran's program. he lost out again. thank you for your service...i credit you and all of the vets as the most important group of people who helped me get where i am today! i cannot say that for a group of politicians! ;)

[not hijacking thread - just sharing a funny story about a vet - my uncle would not say anything about why he was awarded his purple heart EXCEPT to claim that it was while in the back of a jeep - claimed he chipped his tooth on a wine bottle! :)]

Guest
07-26-2012, 03:27 PM
We all know that (junior) messed us up no one will deny that but obama is trying to kill you. And by the way you can't insult me or offend me because I don't give a s--t. You will all wonder what happened when sharia law is the only way to live in this country and that is where it's heading. It's being adopted in the schools now. obama is wanting more money for education. Only for the betterment of African Americans.Now listen before you go off half cocked. I don't care what race you are but you can't single out one group of people unless of course they are trying take over or destroy what you worked for. I would love to understand the background of some of the posters on this forum.

That might be where you got the loan but who paid for it who went to work to make the payments not obama not the government this guy is talking through his a-- he's a high school kid trying to make excuses for every thing he does

Hard to refute your logic.

Guest
07-26-2012, 03:42 PM
How do any posters on this forum think that Mitt Romney could have any empathy for the middle class? Did he ever have to get a mortgage on any of his six mansions? Did he ever have to apply for a college loan? He recently told a group of young people if they needed money for college or to start a business to "borrow it from their parents". What planet does he live on?

Romney also said he "doesn't care about the poor" and he "likes firing people".

Guest
07-26-2012, 03:53 PM
Any person with a half a brain knows business people were successful for thousands of years and long before the government was involved. Anyone with half a brain also knows the government can't do ANYTHING that isn't paid for off the back of others hard work.. namely taxes collected, most of which they waste. Only half baked liberals think otherwise.

With out his teleprompter, Obama was only showing his true left wing elitist colors. No one can do anything without the government.

The only reason why the Obama sheep on this board are calling people racists and whatever other lame diversion the can come up with is because they know their shepherd is going down in flames.

Don't forget lefties, it's medication time!

http://www.bsfreepress.net/obama2-sheep-.jpg

Guest
07-26-2012, 04:21 PM
How do any posters on this forum think that Mitt Romney could have any empathy for the middle class? Did he ever have to get a mortgage on any of his six mansions? Did he ever have to apply for a college loan? He recently told a group of young people if they needed money for college or to start a business to "borrow it from their parents". What planet does he live on?

Romney also said he "doesn't care about the poor" and he "likes firing people".

nothing like leaving off the rest of the 'fire people' comment - “You know, if someone doesn't give me the good service I need, I want to say, ‘You know, I'm going to get someone else to provide this service to me.’”

anyone who reads the contractor forum here know lots of totvers would love to see lots of them fired, too! ;)

Guest
07-26-2012, 04:37 PM
So obama is saying Romney is twisting what he said about business that an individual did not create his company. Just how dumb can you be to believe this. If you do you are dumber than a 5th grader . obama is clueless

The Creepy Small Lies of the Romney Campaign | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/07/creepy-small-lies-romney-campaign)

I am not supporting Obama, but I don't feel a lie is the way to get Romney votes.

Guest
07-26-2012, 04:39 PM
Meanwhile, Bishop Willard is in London insulting the Brits and making a jackass of himself .......

.... this is gonna be good .....

Guest
07-26-2012, 04:57 PM
The Creepy Small Lies of the Romney Campaign | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/07/creepy-small-lies-romney-campaign)

I am not supporting Obama, but I don't feel a lie is the way to get Romney votes.

That's all Romney's got. He has no agenda, no plan, no nothing.

Guest
07-26-2012, 06:15 PM
The Creepy Small Lies of the Romney Campaign | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/07/creepy-small-lies-romney-campaign)

I am not supporting Obama, but I don't feel a lie is the way to get Romney votes.

Mother Jones??.......That creepy ultra left wing radical rag?

God help us.

Guest
07-26-2012, 06:16 PM
Meanwhile, Bishop Willard is in London insulting the Brits and making a jackass of himself .......

.... this is gonna be good .....

I agree, it's gonna be good. You're not going to like it, but it's going to be good.

He's not speaking to you, if you'd like a clue here.

Guest
07-26-2012, 06:57 PM
Meanwhile, Bishop Willard is in London insulting the Brits and making a jackass of himself .......

.... this is gonna be good .....

So far he is steppin all over his bishop :o Maybe he'll get a VP candidate to amuse Europe. Maybe Gov. Christie will be more tactful.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:01 PM
So far he is steppin all over his bishop :o Maybe he'll get a VP candidate to amuse Europe. Maybe Gov. Christie will be more tactful.

If anyone is experienced enough to know whether this Olympics is being prepared for and run properly, it's Mitt Romney.

I don't know why you and others are jumping on him about his statements already.

Of course the people in charge are going to be upset that Romney thinks their stewardship leaves something to be desired.

It doesn't mean he's wrong.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:09 PM
If anyone is experienced enough to know whether this Olympics is being prepared for and run properly, it's Mitt Romney.

I don't know why you and others are jumping on him about his statements already.

Of course the people in charge are going to be upset that Romney thinks their stewardship leaves something to be desired.

It doesn't mean he's wrong.

His Statesmanship is sorely lacking. Me and you can roughhouse verbally but the heft your pinkie finger at tea Brits are sensitive. Hell Ike figured them out, Mitt should have done some homework or hired on a foreign expert.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:28 PM
Mitt Romney has been an embarrassment in London. He goes over there and insults the British people and their olympics. The British press is calling him worse than Sarah Palin. The Mayor of London and several thousand people were calling him a joke today.

Last night on NBC Nightly News when Brian Williams asked him if he was looking for a boring guy for VP, Romney responded by saying "Yes, but I heard you're not available, Brian...heh heh heh". How crass.

We'll see who else he can insult on his trip abroad. Hope he stays away from the queen. Romney may release his tax returns in the next few days just to change the subject.

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:32 PM
Mitt Romney has been an embarrassment in London. He goes over there and insults the British people and their olympics. The British press is calling him worse than Sarah Palin. The Mayor of London and several thousand people were calling him a joke today.

Last night on NBC Nightly News when Brian Williams asked him if he was looking for a boring guy for VP, Romney responded by saying "Yes, but I heard you're not available, Brian...heh heh heh". How crass.

We'll see who else he can insult on his trip abroad.

I'm so embarrassed. He is not walking tall. Where are our Cowboys???

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:49 PM
Just to keep it factual, he said "boring white guy for VP." And you're worried about his answer being crass? Really?

And the Obama sheep keep spinning...

Guest
07-26-2012, 07:54 PM
His Statesmanship is sorely lacking. Me and you can roughhouse verbally but the heft your pinkie finger at tea Brits are sensitive. Hell Ike figured them out, Mitt should have done some homework or hired on a foreign expert.

guess that's what ya get with honesty from someone who knows the needs.

and i don't put bowing to the king of saudi arabia very high on my list of statesmanship! if mitt and wife do meet the queen, i bet they won't put their arms around her or try to shake her hand.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:01 PM
The level of hate here is remarkable.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:02 PM
I agree, maybe time for the sheep to move on.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:07 PM
guess that's what ya get with honesty from someone who knows the needs.

and i don't put bowing to the king of saudi arabia very high on my list of statesmanship! if mitt and wife do meet the queen, i bet they won't put their arms around her or try to shake her hand.

Got that right, teeee heee heeee, if they haul in a Saudi King it could be a cluster ****. Lots of big eyes.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:09 PM
I agree, maybe time for the sheep to move on.

Let me know when the sheep head this way. Gots to pull them knee high milkin boots on.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:22 PM
I believe they are already here.

http://www.toonpool.com/user/1292/files/sheep_surround_shepherd_obama_350475.jpg

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:31 PM
I believe they are already here.

http://www.toonpool.com/user/1292/files/sheep_surround_shepherd_obama_350475.jpg

You may want to explore your fixation with them. I'll tell ya, if you buck them towards water, they will buck back twice.

Guest
07-26-2012, 08:59 PM
Bishop Romney in London - 'Total Car Crash" .......and, the biggest insult of all being, referred to as 'Worse Than Palin'.

British PM to Bishop Romney - 'Easier if You Hold Olympics In Middle Of Nowhere'.

London Mayor and Crowd of 60,000 Mock Willard...

Bishop Romney calls UK Opposition Head Milliband 'Mr. Leader'.

London Telegraph - "If Mitt Romney doesn't like us, we shouldn't care"

Daily Mail called the start of Romney's trip "humiliating"

The London Evening Standard - "David Cameron slaps down US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney over Games gaffe."

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:11 PM
I don't even know what you are talking about but I do know I'm a lot less fixated on sheep than liberals are on destroying America. And they are doing an such excellent job.

Guest
07-26-2012, 09:39 PM
Bishop Romney in London - 'Total Car Crash" .......and, the biggest insult of all being, referred to as 'Worse Than Palin'.

British PM to Bishop Romney - 'Easier if You Hold Olympics In Middle Of Nowhere'.

London Mayor and Crowd of 60,000 Mock Willard...

Bishop Romney calls UK Opposition Head Milliband 'Mr. Leader'.

London Telegraph - "If Mitt Romney doesn't like us, we shouldn't care"

Daily Mail called the start of Romney's trip "humiliating"

The London Evening Standard - "David Cameron slaps down US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney over Games gaffe."

where do you get this trash? Is there a website that produces this garbage for you liberals to spread like cow manure.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:00 PM
His Statesmanship is sorely lacking. Me and you can roughhouse verbally but the heft your pinkie finger at tea Brits are sensitive. Hell Ike figured them out, Mitt should have done some homework or hired on a foreign expert.

I guess time will tell if Mitt's on to something. I'm sure he saw aspects of the games logistics that are troubling to him.

But, I really do hope if he has some fears here that they're not realized.

Does statesmanship mean lying to people even if it's against their own interests?

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:18 PM
Bishop Romney in London - 'Total Car Crash" .......and, the biggest insult of all being, referred to as 'Worse Than Palin'.

British PM to Bishop Romney - 'Easier if You Hold Olympics In Middle Of Nowhere'.

London Mayor and Crowd of 60,000 Mock Willard...

Bishop Romney calls UK Opposition Head Milliband 'Mr. Leader'.

London Telegraph - "If Mitt Romney doesn't like us, we shouldn't care"

Daily Mail called the start of Romney's trip "humiliating"

The London Evening Standard - "David Cameron slaps down US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney over Games gaffe."


guess it's a good thing that the brits can't vote in our upcoming election! this information is as good as the polls that get posted here.

Guest
07-26-2012, 10:36 PM
janmcn...
If you read the books about Obama by his supporters, you discover that he had a fairly easy life, lived in a beach front condo, attended a private high school. traveled a lot, smoked pot, courted the ladies...then got in to an American college as a foreign exchange student. His mother was a PHD doctor holding several important posts...he came from money, maybe not as much as Mitt Romney's family but certainly more than the average household. Neither of them really lacked for much.

Guest
07-27-2012, 07:51 AM
janmcn...
If you read the books about Obama by his supporters, you discover that he had a fairly easy life, lived in a beach front condo, attended a private high school. traveled a lot, smoked pot, courted the ladies...then got in to an American college as a foreign exchange student. His mother was a PHD doctor holding several important posts...he came from money, maybe not as much as Mitt Romney's family but certainly more than the average household. Neither of them really lacked for much.

Didn't you forget to mention that he was born in Kenya and is a Muslim??? :ohdear:

Guest
07-27-2012, 07:54 AM
dk lassen LOVE YOUR PICTURE OF THE SHEEP LOOKING AT OBAMA!! tHAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. YOU CAN LEAD THEM RIGHT TO THE SLAUGHTER EXACTLY WHAT HITLER DID. THEY HAVE NO COMMON SENSE. GOOD JOB!! LET'S GET READY TO CELEBRATE IN NOV THE BIG WIN!! OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE!!

Guest
07-27-2012, 08:19 AM
dk lassen LOVE YOUR PICTURE OF THE SHEEP LOOKING AT OBAMA!! tHAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. YOU CAN LEAD THEM RIGHT TO THE SLAUGHTER EXACTLY WHAT HITLER DID. THEY HAVE NO COMMON SENSE. GOOD JOB!! LET'S GET READY TO CELEBRATE IN NOV THE BIG WIN!! OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE!!

Great post (sarcasm here!) that definitely will be forwarded to the Sumter County Republican Headquarters to show what kind of people they have working at their Lake Sumter Landing storefront.

People have to learn that whatever is posted is available for everyone to read. Think before posting is a good idea.

Guest
07-27-2012, 08:28 AM
Great post (sarcasm here!) that definitely will be forwarded to the Sumter County Republican Headquarters to show what kind of people they have working at their Lake Sumter Landing storefront.

People have to learn that whatever is posted is available for everyone to read. Think before posting is a good idea.

Even after all this time, you can still astonish me.

Now you're threatening posters?

Typical of you leftists.

Guest
07-27-2012, 08:30 AM
Bishop Romney in London - 'Total Car Crash" .......and, the biggest insult of all being, referred to as 'Worse Than Palin'.

British PM to Bishop Romney - 'Easier if You Hold Olympics In Middle Of Nowhere'.

London Mayor and Crowd of 60,000 Mock Willard...

Bishop Romney calls UK Opposition Head Milliband 'Mr. Leader'.

London Telegraph - "If Mitt Romney doesn't like us, we shouldn't care"

Daily Mail called the start of Romney's trip "humiliating"

The London Evening Standard - "David Cameron slaps down US presidential hopeful Mitt Romney over Games gaffe."

where do you get this trash? Is there a website that produces this garbage for you liberals to spread like cow manure.

All of this "trash" comes from the headlines in today's London newspapers along with "Mitt the Twit".

Guest
07-27-2012, 08:56 AM
now just why is it there is such a focus and need to high light what the media would have some of you so happy about what Romney did or does in the UK on his first official visit? And even more interesting was when Obama went there the first time his screw ups when greeting the Queen and the inappropriate gift for her and what ever else....now just why wasn't that as well documented and spot lighted as the current candidate?

Don't waste the key strokes we all know the answers.

I am just amazed at how easily some on this forum are so consumed with minutia and are satisfied with the fact that there is little, if any discussion of the serious issues facing this country and what is to be done about it. The philosophy must be the same as in Washington...if it is ignored maybe it will go away. We certainly don't want the current administration to try and explain why this country is in flat go no where with no improvement mode. I know it is difficult to have to explain what after almost 4 years there is no improvement.

Anyway, have a good day picking the fly specs outta da pepper.

btk

Guest
07-27-2012, 09:08 AM
I guess time will tell if Mitt's on to something. I'm sure he saw aspects of the games logistics that are troubling to him.

But, I really do hope if he has some fears here that they're not realized.

Does statesmanship mean lying to people even if it's against their own interests?

I don't know, I guess the Japanese Ambassador back in 1941 knew a thing or two about that. My guess is that yes is the answer. Not saying is right.

Guest
07-27-2012, 09:47 AM
I don't know, I guess the Japanese Ambassador back in 1941 knew a thing or two about that. My guess is that yes is the answer. Not saying is right.

Your thinking on this kind of reminds me of the mayor in Jaws.

Guest
07-27-2012, 10:00 AM
Your thinking on this kind of reminds me of the mayor in Jaws.

Hated his sport coat.

Town of Amity Mayor Larry Vaughn's Anchor Jacket | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Town-of-Amity-Mayor-Larry-Vaughns-Anchor-Jacket/133388460013741)

Guest
07-27-2012, 01:55 PM
dk lassen LOVE YOUR PICTURE OF THE SHEEP LOOKING AT OBAMA!! tHAT'S WHAT THEY ARE. YOU CAN LEAD THEM RIGHT TO THE SLAUGHTER EXACTLY WHAT HITLER DID. THEY HAVE NO COMMON SENSE. GOOD JOB!! LET'S GET READY TO CELEBRATE IN NOV THE BIG WIN!! OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE!!

Baaaaaa- Baaaaaaaaaaa :ohdear:

Guest
07-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Baaaaaa- Baaaaaaaaaaa :ohdear:

DaleMN: You guys from northern Minnesota are pretty smart. Your counterparts loquacious responses are going to wear them out well before the election while you satisfy yourself with one or two words responses. And I'll bet you keyboard with your left index finger because, I know, your right hand is too busy holding that fishing pole. Walleye for dinner again tonight.:coolsmiley: