Truett Cathy is a bigot

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Just one more conservative in a long line of openly bigoted rich white men. When will it end. You will not see me buying their product.

At least he has the nerve to say he is a bigot openly. I do respect that about him.

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Just one more conservative in a long line of openly bigoted rich white men. When will it end. You will not see me buying their product.

At least he has the nerve to say he is a bigot openly. I do respect that about him.

I still like Chick Fil A. Chick-fil-A (http://www.chick-fil-a.com/)

They have a rather short-sighted and stupid CEO.

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As I recall the story of Chick-fil-a CEO is that he is very religious, stated he supports taditional family values and its definition of marriage. So the Gay Nation went berserk a common response when other organizations didn't agree with the gay agenda attempting to boycott them defame them calling them bigots....all the usual Alinsky tactics. CEO Cathy so committed to his beliefs that he is willing to lose profits by closing his business on Sundays.

The Gay nation and their left leaning liberal supporters demonstrate just how upside down they are trying to make this world.

Why aren't the people offended by Mr Cathy's beliefs as offended by public schools brainwashing little children into believing that homosexuality is normal?
Don't bother, its a rhretorical question we know why.

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Who is this Alinsky fellow? Seems so popular with the conservatives. :icon_wink:

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It is the right of the Chik-Fil-A CEO to state his beliefs about gay marriage publically or privately. He should have thought it through a bit more as he should have known it would cause protests from some groups - which is their Constitutional right, also.

Basically, I do not care one way or the other about what he said or what protests are held pro or con the issue at Chik-Fil-A. I have never eaten one of their sandwiches just by choice and not by protest.

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Just one more conservative in a long line of openly bigoted rich white men.

The liberals these days are really loosing their minds. Can't even hold basic Christian beliefs anymore without being totally character assassinated. If you don't believe exactly how they believe... or how they think you should believe, you are a bigot or rassist and they will do everything they can to shut you down. Precisely why liberalism should be defeated wherever it rears it's ugly head.

Ever heard of Ben and Jerry? They are the antithesis of just aboyt everything I believe. But I do love their ice cream!

Bigot - "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"

Aren't you golfingnut also the exact definition of a bigot?

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Who is this Alinsky fellow? Seems so popular with the conservatives. :icon_wink:

HiDaleMn: I think that Alinsky fella is one of dum der hitmen for the left leaning liberal mob. I think he goes by the nickname Saul the Maul?
You know how dum der gangsters all got nick names.

Now don't hold that fish line too tight walleye don't cotton to that

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It is the right of the Chik-Fil-A CEO to state his beliefs about gay marriage publically or privately. He should have thought it through a bit more as he should have known it would cause protests from some groups - which is their Constitutional right, also.

Basically, I do not care one way or the other about what he said or what protests are held pro or con the issue at Chik-Fil-A. I have never eaten one of their sandwiches just by choice and not by protest.

Good for you. This is the correct response in my opinion.

The CEO has a right to express his first amendment rights to speak and to honor his religious beliefs, even if it might be a stupid thing to do just for his business interests.

I think attacking this man and calling him a bigot is actually a form of religious bigotry. He didn't say he hates gays; he said the bible doesn't permit gay marriage and he is a believer in that edict of his religion.

You can boycott his business if you like, but for governmental agencies to harm his business is wrong.

Personally I think they put out a fine product that is always tasty, and their waffle fries are awesome. I don't eat there often, but that's because I have so many better choices here in TV.

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My wife and I went to Chick-fil-A Saturday. We had a pretty good sandwich. We went there because we were hungry. However on August 1 we will go to support them.

I don't remember who the clown was called him a bigot but that sounds like a standard liberal progressive insult to anyone who does not believe the way that they think they should. It does not mean that the liberal progressive thinks that he is right just that... oh hell hpw do you explain or try to have an intelligent conversation with these clowns. The man is in business. If he makes a good product I will by it. I personally do not care if he is an atheist which I consider really stupid or a Jew or a Christian or a Buddhist or a Taoist. As long as he makes good food and washes his hands after going to the bathroom I'm happy with that. I hope the fact that he is a Christian, remembers the Sabbath and makes a profit drives you liberals nuts.

Just ranting

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hidalemn: I think that alinsky fella is one of dum der hitmen for the left leaning liberal mob. I think he goes by the nickname saul the maul?
You know how dum der gangsters all got nick names.

Now don't hold that fish line too tight walleye don't cotton to that

uff da!

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It is his business and he can have it open or closed on sundays, he can offer only Kosher food or not, he can feed biblical values to his employees who are free to stay or leave. And he can take the profits of his business and do with the money what he wishes. But when he says that he wants to impose his religion on this country and he gives millions to organizations which exist in large part to attempt to deny gay persons the right to marry in civil (not religious) ceremonies then he becomes a fair target for economic boycott as were the owners of lunch counters in the 60's who refused to serve Blacks, when it was still legal to do so. I am sorry to so often hear those on the right scream about Sharia law and the need to keep Islamic rules from over taking the American law, but seem to not see how the attempt to impose a particular version of their own faith on all of us is just the same problem using a different hammer.
Does anyone seriously believe that Catholics should be able to outlaw divorce and birth control, that Jews should be able to stop the sale of bacon, that traditional Mormans should be able to make us all polygamists, or that fundamentalists should be able to tell us who can marry whom based on their interpretation of a line in their 3000 year old book? It was those same fundimentalists who made the laws that made it illegal for a white person to marry a black person, based on that same 3000 year old book. To me these are all the same imposition of a religious rule on a nation where we don't all share the same belief system.

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sounds to me what many prefer these days is...you can have an opinion or belief....as long as it fits a specific minority group's populist wanna have everybody believe.

I don't have a problem with sexual persuasion or religion or political party...just don't try to change my beliefs and values. I give anyone who is unafraid of the many minority groups that demand equality with time honored core values that many of us grew up with. And I do believe one is duly entitled to espousing their belief and values without the usual ranting and name calling of the self professed offended.

I support 100% the dwindeling number of Americans who still have the courage of their convictions and are willing to stand and be counted.
Give me right or wrong or yes or no and do away with all the other standards that water these values down.

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Why would any merchant want to alienate a segment of the population in these trying times?

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The liberals these days are really loosing their minds. Can't even hold basic Christian beliefs anymore without being totally character assassinated. If you don't believe exactly how they believe... or how they think you should believe, you are a bigot or rassist and they will do everything they can to shut you down. Precisely why liberalism should be defeated wherever it rears it's ugly head.

Ever heard of Ben and Jerry? They are the antithesis of just aboyt everything I believe. But I do love their ice cream!

Bigot - "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"

Aren't you golfingnut also the exact definition of a bigot?

What else would you expect from the Rebel Flag. :1rotfl:

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i find it very disappointing that the gay nation cannot respect the religious beliefs on ONE man! the gay nation claims to want tolerance - yet they condemn a man for his traditional family values - what's with that? now the people who support AND practice family values and traditions are bigots? well, count me in then if that's the definition! was this country NOT founded on the principle of religious freedom?

when obama claimed he meant to say that no entreprenuer built his business without the help of others, i bet he had no idea that only a few days later the world would find a bunch of folks who are now PREVENTING business people from building their businesses!

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Just one more conservative in a long line of openly bigoted rich white men. When will it end. You will not see me buying their product.

At least he has the nerve to say he is a bigot openly. I do respect that about him.

why you hate white people?

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Why would any merchant want to alienate a segment of the population in these trying times?

a very small segment of the population at that

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they will have a busy aug 1st

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why you hate white people?

I don't. I love everyone except bigots of which most are rich white men.

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I don't. I love everyone except bigots of which most are rich white men.

And also people who have bigoted views of religious people.

Who fits that definition?

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i find it very disappointing that the gay nation cannot respect the religious beliefs on ONE man! the gay nation claims to want tolerance - yet they condemn a man for his traditional family values - what's with that? now the people who support AND practice family values and traditions are bigots? well, count me in then if that's the definition! was this country NOT founded on the principle of religious freedom?

when obama claimed he meant to say that no entreprenuer built his business without the help of others, i bet he had no idea that only a few days later the world would find a bunch of folks who are now PREVENTING business people from building their businesses!

And do you include Michelle Bachman in that group that supports the principles of religious freedom and her trashing of Hillary Clinton's deputy, Huma Abedin?

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At least he has the nerve to say he is a bigot openly.

But does golfingnut?

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But does golfingnut?

LOL :1rotfl: The Stars and Bars is the symbol of American Racism. So congratulations for being so open.

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It is his business and he can have it open or closed on sundays, he can offer only Kosher food or not, he can feed biblical values to his employees who are free to stay or leave. And he can take the profits of his business and do with the money what he wishes. But when he says that he wants to impose his religion on this country and he gives millions to organizations which exist in large part to attempt to deny gay persons the right to marry in civil (not religious) ceremonies then he becomes a fair target for economic boycott as were the owners of lunch counters in the 60's who refused to serve Blacks, when it was still legal to do so. I am sorry to so often hear those on the right scream about Sharia law and the need to keep Islamic rules from over taking the American law, but seem to not see how the attempt to impose a particular version of their own faith on all of us is just the same problem using a different hammer.
Does anyone seriously believe that Catholics should be able to outlaw divorce and birth control, that Jews should be able to stop the sale of bacon, that traditional Mormans should be able to make us all polygamists, or that fundamentalists should be able to tell us who can marry whom based on their interpretation of a line in their 3000 year old book? It was those same fundimentalists who made the laws that made it illegal for a white person to marry a black person, based on that same 3000 year old book. To me these are all the same imposition of a religious rule on a nation where we don't all share the same belief system.

If you reread your post you may come to realize/ recognize that you have made the argument for the other side.....just saying

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Just shows how hypocritical they are. I like lynyrd skynyrd so now I'm a racist. I'm a Christian and now I'm a bigot. Goofingnut's tolerance for other views is a true testament to the left.

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And do you include Michelle Bachman in that group that supports the principles of religious freedom and her trashing of Hillary Clinton's deputy, Huma Abedin?

you mean the republicans who questioned the aide's family ties to the muslim brotherhood and NOT her religious beliefs/practices? the republicans who sent a letter to homeland security, justice, defense and dir. of intelligence - and NOT to anyone of a religious responsibility? i don't believe the issue was religion, but rather was about homeland security. the aide is the wife of andrew weiner - correct? - who wants us to believe that they are a normal family? if that's normal - sheesh!

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Would someone please explain, in consideration of the First Amendment, why a business owner should be denied a business license by a government agency like the City of Boston, because of stating his religious values or beliefs????

It seems to me that the "bigotry" is coming from those who work to deny a person a license to do business in a city because of his religious beliefs and statements!


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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Um... you're quoting the Constatution. Psssst, a few here don't really subscribe to such a radicle document. You see, it limits the power of government. Lefties dont like that.

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you mean the republicans who questioned the aide's family ties to the muslim brotherhood and NOT her religious beliefs/practices? the republicans who sent a letter to homeland security, justice, defense and dir. of intelligence - and NOT to anyone of a religious responsibility? i don't believe the issue was religion, but rather was about homeland security. the aide is the wife of andrew weiner - correct? - who wants us to believe that they are a normal family? if that's normal - sheesh!

Did it ever occur to any of these republicans, who questioned the aide's family ties, that to have the job Ms Abedin has, she has to have top secret clearance? Do these republicans who questioned the aide's family ties think that Secretary Clinton is a political novice and would hire someone for this sensitive position who wasn't fully investigated? And what about Ms Abedin's marriage do republicans find so amusing? It sounds to me that her religious beliefs/practices are being questioned.

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Would someone please explain, in consideration of the First Amendment, why a business owner should be denied a business license by a government agency like the City of Boston, because of stating his religious values or beliefs????

It seems to me that the "bigotry" is coming from those who work to deny a person a license to do business in a city because of his religious beliefs and statements!


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices? You didn't quote the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

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Did it ever occur to any of these republicans, who questioned the aide's family ties, that to have the job Ms Abedin has, she has to have top secret clearance? Do these republicans who questioned the aide's family ties think that Secretary Clinton is a political novice and would hire someone for this sensitive position who wasn't fully investigated? And what about Ms Abedin's marriage do republicans find so amusing? It sounds to me that her religious beliefs/practices are being questioned.

and who approved her top secret clearance - the current administration? did secretary clinton hire her or was she assigned to the secretary? doubt anyone can find anything amusing about her marriage - except that she is still married to a guy who was caught sexting. it has to be quite the stretch to consider any of that a questioning of religious beliefs/practices in my book!

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Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices?

What practices would that be?

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Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices? You didn't quote the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

what discriminatory parcticeS?

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Could it have something to do with Chick-fil-a's discriminatory practices? You didn't quote the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

They do not refuse to serve gay patrons, and they do not refuse to hire gay people. There is no need to refer to the civil rights laws.

The owner does have a right to express his beliefs without being punished or penalized by a governmental agency because of those beliefs. This violates our citizens' First Amendment rights.

"Consumers can disagree with a company's corporate political position and decide not to spend money there," Socarides said. "But the city cannot regulate speech by denying someone a permit to operate their business just because you disagree with their political beliefs."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/bloomberg-chick-fil-a-ban-not-happen-nyc_n_1710319.html

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These people just throw out such arbitrary nonsense it's a wonder they have anything in common with reality or truth at all. I think they just make it up as they go.

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and who approved her top secret clearance - the current administration? did secretary clinton hire her or was she assigned to the secretary? doubt anyone can find anything amusing about her marriage - except that she is still married to a guy who was caught sexting. it has to be quite the stretch to consider any of that a questioning of religious beliefs/practices in my book!
Ms. Abedin received top level clearances while she served, then Senator Clinton. So she would have actually received these clearances during the Bush Administration.
She actually started working, as an intern, for Secretary Clinton during her years as First Lady.

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Just shows how hypocritical they are. I like lynyrd skynyrd so now I'm a racist. I'm a Christian and now I'm a bigot. Goofingnut's tolerance for other views is a true testament to the left.

Like the man said, ya just can't make this suff up:

stars and bars flag of bigotry - Google Search (http://www.google.com/search?q=stars+and+bars+flag+of+bigotry&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADFA_enUS475&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ID4WUMGfIZSs8QSpiIGYDw&ved=0CFQQsAQ&biw=1184&bih=485)

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I have to take a short trip, so I will clear up something here before I go:

YES if you have anything to do with the stars and bars, you are most likely not annoyed by racism.

If you try to force your view of what religion should be, you are most likely close to being extreme.

If you say you are not, I accept that with reservation.

But most importantly if you feel you are ALWAYS RIGHT, you need to take a closer look, as none of us are perfect and until you admit that to yourself you are just treading water. Pretending to be righteous or NOT being a bigot/racist will not open the gates for you. I am just trying to help.

See ya in a few days and miss ya already.
Love to all
Golfingnut

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Ms. Abedin received top level clearances while she served, then Senator Clinton. So she would have actually received these clearances during the Bush Administration.
She actually started working, as an intern, for Secretary Clinton during her years as First Lady.

thanx for the clarification...if the bush administration did, indeed, approve the security clearance - that doesn't give me a whole lot of reassurance either - if ya know what i mean! ;)

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And do you include Michelle Bachman in that group that supports the principles of religious freedom and her trashing of Hillary Clinton's deputy, Huma Abedin?

Did it ever occur to any of these republicans, who questioned the aide's family ties, that to have the job Ms Abedin has, she has to have top secret clearance? Do these republicans who questioned the aide's family ties think that Secretary Clinton is a political novice and would hire someone for this sensitive position who wasn't fully investigated? And what about Ms Abedin's marriage do republicans find so amusing? It sounds to me that her religious beliefs/practices are being questioned.

I've been pointedly ignoring you for an extended period and only break that now temporarily to point out to others your "head in the sand" views on Ms. Huma Abedin. You are completely out of touch on the issues regarding this woman, regarding her position and her security access.

There is plenty to be concerned about coupled with all the evidence of ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and Ms. Huma Abedin.

Everyone who's paying attention already knows that Ms. Aberdin's mother, brother and late father are/were connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.

But with more investigation it turns out that Ms. Aberdin herself is directly connected to a Abdullah Omar Naseef who is a major Muslim Brotherhood figure involved in the financing of al-Qaeda. Ms. Abedin worked for years as an editor of the journal of the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs.That Institute was founded by the aforementioned Abdullah Omar Naseef, who remained active in it for decades, overlapping for several years with Ms.Abedin.

Naseef was also secretary general of the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, reportedly the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world. In that position, he founded the Rabita Trust, which is formally designated as a foreign terrorist organization under American law due to its support of al-Qaeda.

A person need not have done any wrongdoing to be denied high ranking government positions, or most importantly be denied security clearances that would allow access to classified info. There only needs to be a conflict of interest based on associations, allegiances or association with foreign interests.

The simple probing of the extensive and disturbing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood of Ms. Abedin’s family should have been sufficient to declare Ms. Abedin ineligible for any significant government position, let alone her own personal and longstanding connection to Abdullah Omar Naseef’s organization.

All in all Rep. Michelle Bachmann is to be commended for shining the light on this woman, and Sen. John McCain should be hanging his head in shame.

Ordered Liberty » Huma Abedin’s Brotherhood Ties Are Not Just a Family Affair (http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/07/27/huma-abedins-brotherhood-ties-are-not-just-a-family-affair/?singlepage=true)

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If I drive North 49 miles I can get a Chic Fil A sandwich. The fight and divisive actions of folks over a friggin chicken joint is unbelievable. Folks need to be watching who is going the fill the void in Syria when it falls. More Muslim extremist. Watch for it. The United Muslim Brotherhood is around the corner.

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Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/07/convoluted-connections-link-huma-abedin-muslim-brotherhood/55084/)

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

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I've been pointedly ignoring you for an extended period and only break that now temporarily to point out to others your "head in the sand" views on Ms. Huma Abedin. You are completely out of touch on the issues regarding this woman, regarding her position and her security access.

There is plenty to be concerned about coupled with all the evidence of ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and Ms. Huma Abedin.

Everyone who's paying attention already knows that Ms. Aberdin's mother, brother and late father are/were connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.

But with more investigation it turns out that Ms. Aberdin herself is directly connected to a Abdullah Omar Naseef who is a major Muslim Brotherhood figure involved in the financing of al-Qaeda. Ms. Abedin worked for years as an editor of the journal of the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs.That Institute was founded by the aforementioned Abdullah Omar Naseef, who remained active in it for decades, overlapping for several years with Ms.Abedin.

Naseef was also secretary general of the Muslim World League in Saudi Arabia, reportedly the most significant Muslim Brotherhood organization in the world. In that position, he founded the Rabita Trust, which is formally designated as a foreign terrorist organization under American law due to its support of al-Qaeda.

A person need not have done any wrongdoing to be denied high ranking government positions, or most importantly be denied security clearances that would allow access to classified info. There only needs to be a conflict of interest based on associations, allegiances or association with foreign interests.

The simple probing of the extensive and disturbing ties to the Muslim Brotherhood of Ms. Abedin’s family should have been sufficient to declare Ms. Abedin ineligible for any significant government position, let alone her own personal and longstanding connection to Abdullah Omar Naseef’s organization.

All in all Rep. Michelle Bachmann is to be commended for shining the light on this woman, and Sen. John McCain should be hanging his head in shame.

Ordered Liberty » Huma Abedin’s Brotherhood Ties Are Not Just a Family Affair (http://pjmedia.com/andrewmccarthy/2012/07/27/huma-abedins-brotherhood-ties-are-not-just-a-family-affair/?singlepage=true)

richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

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Don't be fooled into this paranoia: Do your own research for normal publications and articles on the subject.

The Convoluted Connections That Link Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood - National - The Atlantic Wire (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/07/convoluted-connections-link-huma-abedin-muslim-brotherhood/55084/)

We have more to fear from Americans bent on Conspiracy theories than the Muslim Brotherhood. And I fear Muslims, but I don't stand guard in my bedroom in full battle dress uniform.

The Atlantic Wire is a "normal" publication? Yeah, OK if you think so.

Still, Ms. Abedin's prior relationship in Naseef's organization is fact, and Naseef's position as a money bundler for al Qaeda is fact, and Ms. Abedin's family's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact.

Why you're so blindly excusing Ms. Abedin's shady history with the Muslim Brotherhood is very curious.

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richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

I agree. Too many times folks will see or hear one opinion and take it as the truth. We must read all opinions before we use our brain to make a decision. There are folks on the internet that believe the first thing they see rather it is right or wrong.

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I agree. Too many times folks will see or hear one opinion and take it as the truth. We must read all opinions before we use our brain to make a decision. There are folks on the internet that believe the first thing they see rather it is right or wrong.

Please define for me your difference between "a fact" and "an opinion"

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Please define for me your difference between "a fact" and "an opinion"

OK Mr Rubicon. Here is one more of many that clearly find M Bachmann's accusations to be false and unsubstantiated. We should be vigil if Romney or so many other honest and Sane republicans would make the charge, but Bachmann, Really.

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richielion: Why do you waste your time with publishing facts? Those opposed here won't read them because they will conflict with their opinions and that is something they just can't wrap their minds around.

It just like the denials coming from the White House concerning leaks regarding foreign policy. It is clear Obama is intent on positioning himself in a positive light as to foreign affairs and with or without a nod and a wink from him you know it is coming from Team Obama.
It also appears that Ms. Aberdin was vetted about as well as Obama.

Rubi, your bias is showing. Facts are seldom irrefutable, and are often twisted, taken out of context, and generally manipulated by writers on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. One reason I seldom post links is that it will simply prompt a response with a link from a 180 degree differing viewpoint. Most of what is posted here is opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. Virtually anyone who posts on a forum of this type has a viewpoint that aligns with either the right or left, and everything they opine on and every link they post will be from that viewpoint. I personally am more interested in well stated and reasonable opinions than with articles from a slanted point of view.

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Another article that points a finger at Bachmann for her comments from a highly respected Party leader.

John Boehner Goes After Bachmann’s Clinton Aide/Muslim Brotherhood Remarks: ‘Pretty Dangerous’ | Mediaite (http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-boehner-goes-after-bachmanns-clinton-aidemuslim-brotherhood-remarks-pretty-dangerous/)

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The Atlantic Wire is a "normal" publication? Yeah, OK if you think so.

Still, Ms. Abedin's prior relationship in Naseef's organization is fact, and Naseef's position as a money bundler for al Qaeda is fact, and Ms. Abedin's family's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood is fact.

Why you're so blindly excusing Ms. Abedin's shady history with the Muslim Brotherhood is very curious.

... and, RichieLion, if you follow Huma Abedin's history and connections for a couple of more degrees, she is related to Kevin Bacon!

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Another article that points a finger at Bachmann for her comments from a highly respected Party leader.

John Boehner Goes After Bachmann’s Clinton Aide/Muslim Brotherhood Remarks: ‘Pretty Dangerous’ | Mediaite (http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-boehner-goes-after-bachmanns-clinton-aidemuslim-brotherhood-remarks-pretty-dangerous/)

We all know exactly what finger that John Boehner should be pointing at The Minnesota Moron.

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Rubi, your bias is showing. Facts are seldom irrefutable, and are often twisted, taken out of context, and generally manipulated by writers on BOTH sides of the political spectrum. One reason I seldom post links is that it will simply prompt a response with a link from a 180 degree differing viewpoint. Most of what is posted here is opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs. Virtually anyone who posts on a forum of this type has a viewpoint that aligns with either the right or left, and everything they opine on and every link they post will be from that viewpoint. I personally am more interested in well stated and reasonable opinions than with articles from a slanted point of view.

Bias: a preference or an inclination especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.

Belief: mental acceptance of and conviction in truth, acuality or validity of something

While both of the above definitions are suspetible to perception, I have spent my entire career invesitgating people's veracity developing facts that will stand up in a court of law, etc

I stand by my comments....that's my story and i am sticking to it:pepper2:

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... and, RichieLion, if you follow Huma Abedin's history and connections for a couple of more degrees, she is related to Kevin Bacon!

Your goofiness does not change the facts of Ms Abedin's background and connection to the Muslim Brotherhood no matter how you and Ed W. refuse to acknowledge those facts.

All you two have are empty hands and empty words now.

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Good for Mr. Cathy and I totally respect him for his courage and standing by his convictions. Sad how some are quick to blindly call someone a bigot when they really know so little about him. I would have to say the name callers are the ones with the problem since their approach to anything or anyone that does not agree with them is to start calling them names.

BTW Chic Filet has great food and a clean enviorment..

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Supporters are ask to stop by a chick-fil-a on Wednesday. Think Wednesday is a good day to treat my wife to a tasty chicken sandwich

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Your goofiness does not change the facts of Ms Abedin's background and connection to the Muslim Brotherhood no matter how you and Ed W. refuse to acknowledge those facts.

All you two have are empty hands and empty words now.


richielion: You know that expression "in awe" well when it comes to liberals logic and responses I am "confused and dazed" which quickly turns to "sadness and pity" How can we give a hand up to our liberal brothers and sisters?

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I'm in, where is the closest one to the villages?

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I'm in, where is the closest one to the villages?

On 441 near the Target. You can see chick-fil-a from 441 bon appetit

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Only from a liberal...

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

Great question. I would like to know the answer to that one.

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Good for Mr. Cathy and I totally respect him for his courage and standing by his convictions. Sad how some are quick to blindly call someone a bigot when they really know so little about him. I would have to say the name callers are the ones with the problem since their approach to anything or anyone that does not agree with them is to start calling them names.

BTW Chic Filet has great food and a clean enviorment..

:agree:

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?

why do that?

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Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

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Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?


Instead if just blowing hot air, why don't you go to a chick-fil-a, buy a sandwich and ask the first young person behind the counter that helps you the question? Ask them how they feel?

Afraid of the answer?

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Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

None, I am retired. My turn. Do you really believe the stars and bars is not a racist symbol.

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None, I am retired. My turn.

Ok, so how many jobs DID you provide for young people just starting in the workforce and how much did you pay them?

Do you really believe the stars and bars is not a racist symbol.

I don't know, ask him.

The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton- YouTube

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Ok, so how many jobs DID you provide for young people just starting in the workforce and how much did you pay them?



I don't know, ask him.

The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton- YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYzAqHD1gHc&feature=related)

I worked for the Federal government via the United States Army most of my life and that was a large business so I have to say none.

I watched video you attached: THE TRUE SOUTH THROUGH MY EYES. Once again, I must stop and think about that. WOW that is truly a moving video with a take on the stars and bars that I never Heard, never Considered. I am left speechless. Thank you for the video and I will search my heart for a different understanding about the Confederacy and their flag. I have been humbled by that wonderful witness to the south.

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That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. Only from a liberal...

:agree:

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So my point is,

I don't see anyone here providing work for the millions of young people out of work so why pound away at those who do?

The question was asked

Why not ask the minimum wage employees of Chik-fil-a how they feel about the situation with their CEO who is raking in millions of dollars while the employees get minimum wage?


My answer is simple... why don't you guys go ask them? I'm sure they have an opinion.

As far as the stars and bars, some think it is and some think it isn't. That's obvious. If you call one racist, you have to call the other racist I would think because the stars and strips was the northern flag flying over most all of the slave ships, not the confederate flag. It's all a matter of opinion and how much research you want to do.

I know many here of both colors that are proud of the stars and bars. Some feel otherwise for sure.

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Great question. I would like to know the answer to that one.

another redistributionist liberal progressive I presume.

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Here's the answer. Why doesn't the minimum wage employee who obviously has the skills and knowledge of a CEO get the capital and start their own 1600 store business? That way they won't have to make minimum wage anymore. What a concept!

Are some liberals that unsuccessful in life that they hate anyone who is successful?

Hey golfingnut, how many jobs do you provide young people just getting started in the workforce? How much are you paying them?

:agree:

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I worked for the Federal government via the United States Army most of my life and that was a large business so I have to say none.

I watched video you attached: THE TRUE SOUTH THROUGH MY EYES. Once again, I must stop and think about that. WOW that is truly a moving video with a take on the stars and bars that I never Heard, never Considered. I am left speechless. Thank you for the video and I will search my heart for a different understanding about the Confederacy and their flag. I have been humbled by that wonderful witness to the south.



if you do not like the South why did you move here to a 99% white community? Protest with your feet. Facing off and keep walking.

The stars and bars is history. Nothing more nothing less. It happened to be the banner of the confederation of states that was trying to preserve their manpower tradition. It is a piece of cloth. Nothing more and nothing less unless you're the type who just refuses to move on.

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if you do not like the South why did you move here to a 99% white community? Protest with your feet. Facing off and keep walking.

The stars and bars is history. Nothing more nothing less. It happened to be the banner of the confederation of states that was trying to preserve their manpower tradition. It is a piece of cloth. Nothing more and nothing less unless you're the type who just refuses to move on.

I love the south and I am white, so I am confused to just what you are trying to say. Sorry if you don't know either.

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I think in general there are very few people who are truly racist except for the most extreme. Living in TN for the last 4.5 years I have yet to meet one, black or white. People should be judged on the content of their character not the color of their skin. Many here in TN are proud of the starts and bars as it relates to their true history and ancestry... both black and white.

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Good history lesson.

Behind The Dixie Stars - YouTube

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I think in general there are very few people who are truly racist except for the most extreme. Living in TN for the last 4.5 years I have yet to meet one, black or white. People should be judged on the content of their character not the color of their skin. Many here in TN are proud of the starts and bars as it relates to their true history and ancestry... both black and white.

I am going to embrace that thought and I thank you for it.

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The accusations about Truett Cathy being too selfish to pay more than minimum wage leave me speechless, so I will refer the prejudiced, bigoted vilifiers of him to this, as a start:

"Cathy has dedicated his time and resources to many philanthropic causes, focusing on those related to the welfare of needy children. In 1984, Cathy established the WinShape Foundation, named for its mission to shape winners.

WinShape Foundation consists of WinShape Homes, WinShape Retreat, WinShape Marriage, WinShape Camps, WinShape, College Program, WinShape Wilderness and WinShape International. In 2010, the foundation provided roughly $18 million to fund the development of foster homes and summer camp.

Past donations from the WinShape Foundation include the funding of several college scholarships and marriage counseling programs. The foundation has awarded nearly 820 students of Berry College with scholarships of up to $32,000. WinShape has also donated an estimated $5 million to pro family groups since 2003. Approximately $2 million was given in 2009 and almost the same amount in 2010. s caused consternation for advocates that have denounced the chain over its support of groups opposed to same-sex marriage, and has led to instances of movements to refuse or remove Chick-fil-A restaurants and products from college and university campuses; Northeastern University's Student Senate voted on February 28, 2012 to cancel plans for an on-campus Chick-fil-A restaurant.

In 2008, Cathy's WinShape foundation became the winner of the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic leadership which awarded it $250,000 towards future philanthropy, as a result of its contributions to society. The prize was created to further ideals such as personal responsibility, resourcefulness, volunteerism, scholarship, individual freedom, faith in God, and helping people who help themselves. It honors living philanthropists who have shown exemplary leadership through their charitable giving, highlights the power of philanthropy to achieve positive change, and seeks to inspire others to support charities that achieve genuine results.

Additionally, Cathy has dedicated his time and resources towards welcoming homeless children into his home and has taught in Sunday school sessions. He has fostered children for over 30 years, and has since taken in nearly 200 foster children through WinShape Homes. WinShape Homes is a long-term foster care program that includes 11 foster homes throughout Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee.[7][8]

Cathy also has a Leadership Scholarship program for Chick-fil-A restaurant employees, which has awarded more than $23 million in $1,000 scholarships in the past 35 years.[8]
In recognition of his philanthropic efforts through WinShape, Cathy received the Children's Champion Award for Family and Community from the charitable organization Children's Hunger Fund in 2011.

Honors and memberships
......Cathy has received numerous honors, including membership in Omicron Delta Kappa (OΔK), the National Leadership Honor Society. He received OΔK's highest award, the Laurel Crowned Circle Award in 2009. He also received the Norman Vincent and Ruth Stafford Peale Humanitarian Award, the Horatio Alger Award, the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic Leadership, and the Boy Scouts of America Silver Buffalo Award. Cathy was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 2003.......

S. Truett Cathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._Truett_Cathy)

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The accusations about Truett Cathy being too selfish to pay more than minimum wage leave me speechless, so I will refer the prejudiced, bigoted vilifiers of him to this, as a start:

"Cathy has dedicated his time and resources to many philanthropic causes, focusing on those related to the welfare of needy children. In 1984, Cathy established the WinShape Foundation, named for its mission to shape winners.

WinShape Foundation consists of WinShape Homes, WinShape Retreat, WinShape Marriage, WinShape Camps, WinShape, College Program, WinShape Wilderness and WinShape International. In 2010, the foundation provided roughly $18 million to fund the development of foster homes and summer camp.

Past donations from the WinShape Foundation include the funding of several college scholarships and marriage counseling programs. The foundation has awarded nearly 820 students of Berry College with scholarships of up to $32,000. WinShape has also donated an estimated $5 million to pro family groups since 2003. Approximately $2 million was given in 2009 and almost the same amount in 2010. s caused consternation for advocates that have denounced the chain over its support of groups opposed to same-sex marriage, and has led to instances of movements to refuse or remove Chick-fil-A restaurants and products from college and university campuses; Northeastern University's Student Senate voted on February 28, 2012 to cancel plans for an on-campus Chick-fil-A restaurant.

In 2008, Cathy's WinShape foundation became the winner of the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic leadership which awarded it $250,000 towards future philanthropy, as a result of its contributions to society. The prize was created to further ideals such as personal responsibility, resourcefulness, volunteerism, scholarship, individual freedom, faith in God, and helping people who help themselves. It honors living philanthropists who have shown exemplary leadership through their charitable giving, highlights the power of philanthropy to achieve positive change, and seeks to inspire others to support charities that achieve genuine results.

Additionally, Cathy has dedicated his time and resources towards welcoming homeless children into his home and has taught in Sunday school sessions. He has fostered children for over 30 years, and has since taken in nearly 200 foster children through WinShape Homes. WinShape Homes is a long-term foster care program that includes 11 foster homes throughout Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee.[7][8]

Cathy also has a Leadership Scholarship program for Chick-fil-A restaurant employees, which has awarded more than $23 million in $1,000 scholarships in the past 35 years.[8]
In recognition of his philanthropic efforts through WinShape, Cathy received the Children's Champion Award for Family and Community from the charitable organization Children's Hunger Fund in 2011.

Honors and memberships
......Cathy has received numerous honors, including membership in Omicron Delta Kappa (OΔK), the National Leadership Honor Society. He received OΔK's highest award, the Laurel Crowned Circle Award in 2009. He also received the Norman Vincent and Ruth Stafford Peale Humanitarian Award, the Horatio Alger Award, the William E. Simon Prize for Philanthropic Leadership, and the Boy Scouts of America Silver Buffalo Award. Cathy was inducted into the Junior Achievement U.S. Business Hall of Fame in 2003.......

S. Truett Cathy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._Truett_Cathy)

But, you must admit that although he is a wonderful man, he is a bigot.

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How about typing no more blue on a green background. Can't read it and you are wasting lots of your time doing that. Pick another color.

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Everyone here libs and conservs holds a pretty hard line view. Aren't we all then the definition of a bigot?

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:bowdown:Everyone here libs and conservs holds a pretty hard line view. Aren't we all then the definition of a bigot?

:bigbow:

Best post of the year. :crap2:

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Everyone here libs and conservs holds a pretty hard line view. Aren't we all then the definition of a bigot?

No, because the definition of "bigot" includes "treats members of a group with hatred".

Most people understand the meaning of and the difference between "Love the sinner...hate the sin".

I'm pretty sure Truett Cathy would try to adhere to "Love the sinner....hate the sin".

Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Merriam Webster Dictionary online

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People seem to be drifting away from the true situation here. Mr. Cathy simply stated that he views marriage to be between a man and woman. He has not acted in any way that could be construed in the liberalist view as being bigoted.

The Gay Nation went berserk because they viewed his view as a threat to their agenda. The Gay Nation's reaction and complaints led to some spineless opportunists politicians and Hollywood people to discriminate against Mr. Cathy and his business Chick-fil-a

People on the side of Mr. Cathy are outraged that people in responsible government positions, et al would intentionally take actions to damage Mr. Cathy's business. These tactics mimick the hit list being applied in the Obama Administration. These once again hitman tactics created by "Saul the Maul" Alinsky.

I have already ask my wife to accompany me on a date tomorrow to purchase a tasty Chick-fil-a

Mr Cathy in essence is being persecuted for his religious beliefs

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Good post, Rubicon.

One thing that always strikes me with "gay marriage" is that "marriage" is a religious covenant/promise/sacrament, as well as being a civil union in our nation and in Europe and other places.

Who do gay "marriage" proponents think they are, re-defining a 6,000+ year-old religious rite, when it is Judeo-Christian religion and laws that they cannot stand??

A big part of the problem is calling it gay "marriage", when the religious rite of marriage is and always has been between a male and a female. Who are gay rights proponents to change the definition of millennia-old religious rites???

A lot of this fighting would stop if gay proponents would focus on a "civil union" or "domestic partnership", and leave the religious rites alone as they have stood for thousands of years.

I can't think of anybody I know who is not okay with a "civil union" or "domestic partnership" sanctioned by civil authorities, while leaving the religious union/rite up to the churches/synagogues.

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Good post, Rubicon.

One thing that always strikes me with "gay marriage" is that "marriage" is a religious covenant/promise/sacrament, as well as being a civil union in our nation and in Europe and other places.

Who do gay "marriage" proponents think they are, re-defining a 6,000+ year-old religious rite, when it is Judeo-Christian religion and laws that they cannot stand??

A big part of the problem is calling it gay "marriage", when the religious rite of marriage is and always has been between a male and a female. Who are gay rights proponents to change the definition of millennia-old religious rites???

A lot of this fighting would stop if gay proponents would focus on a "civil union" or "domestic partnership", and leave the religious rites alone as they have stood for thousands of years.

I can't think of anybody I know who is not okay with a "civil union" or "domestic partnership" sanctioned by civil authorities, while leaving the religious union/rite up to the churches/synagogues.
ilovetv, I absolutely agree with you. Any committed couple should be afforded the opportunity to form a "civil union" or "domestic partnership" and with that commitment should be able to realize all civil benefits currently extended to married couples. These benefits would include inheritance rights, tax benefits, banking/financial benefits, etc. Society can call these unions - "civil unions" or "domestic partnerships".

If that couple chooses to "go the next step" and make a commitment between themselves and their God, society can label that as "marriage".

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ilovetv, I absolutely agree with you. Any committed couple should be afforded the opportunity to form a "civil union" or "domestic partnership" and with that commitment should be able to realize all civil benefits currently extended to married couples. These benefits would include inheritance rights, tax benefits, banking/financial benefits, etc. Society can call these unions - "civil unions" or "domestic partnerships".

If that couple chooses to "go the next step" and make a commitment between themselves and their God, society can label that as "marriage".

There is absolutely NOTHING different between a gay couple being married by a Justice of the Peace or a judge than a straight couple being married in the same way. It is a CIVIL ceremony. It is a civilized thing to do!

IF a church wants to recognize the civil ceremony with a religious ceremony of it's own, THAT is up to the church. The GOVERNMENT should keep it's nose out of the church business.

If the CEO of Chick-fil-a wants to come out and denounce gay marriage - nothing wrong with him doing that. If groups want to protest his actions by boycotting the restaurant - nothing wrong with that, either. GOVERNMENT should not be involved IN ANY WAY.

Go ahead and buy your sandwiches tomorrow. Nothing wrong with that, either - except for the huge amounts of grease and sodium and empty calories in the sandwiches. Those waffle fries do sound good, though.

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(There is absolutely NOTHING different between a gay couple being married by a Justice of the Peace or a judge than a straight couple being married in the same way. It is a CIVIL ceremony. It is a civilized thing to do!)

Of course that is your opinion but that does not make it so! It is very clearly obvious to most people that there is definitely a difference!
Okay - I'll bite. What's the difference?

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(There is absolutely NOTHING different between a gay couple being married by a Justice of the Peace or a judge than a straight couple being married in the same way. It is a CIVIL ceremony. It is a civilized thing to do!)

Of course that is your opinion but that does not make it so! It is very clearly obvious to most people that there is definitely a difference!

Okay - I'll bite. What's the difference?

me. too - i'll bite! please explain your post.

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There is absolutely NOTHING different between a gay couple being married by a Justice of the Peace or a judge than a straight couple being married in the same way. It is a CIVIL ceremony. It is a civilized thing to do!

IF a church wants to recognize the civil ceremony with a religious ceremony of it's own, THAT is up to the church. The GOVERNMENT should keep it's nose out of the church business.

If the CEO of Chick-fil-a wants to come out and denounce gay marriage - nothing wrong with him doing that. If groups want to protest his actions by boycotting the restaurant - nothing wrong with that, either. GOVERNMENT should not be involved IN ANY WAY.

Go ahead and buy your sandwiches tomorrow. Nothing wrong with that, either - except for the huge amounts of grease and sodium and empty calories in the sandwiches. Those waffle fries do sound good, though.

OMG!!, I agree with every single word you've said here.

The only problem I have with this whole overblown story is the government getting involved in any of this, and agree 100% on your view on this.

Where we part is I don't think the sandwiches are greasy at all, and they are not empty calories because you're getting a bit of a protein fix. You could get a protein fix more efficiently than a Chick-fil-a sandwich, but they're not that unhealthy, I don't believe.

The waffle fries; now those are delicious empty calories........mmmm.

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There is absolutely NOTHING different between a gay couple being married by a Justice of the Peace or a judge than a straight couple being married in the same way. It is a CIVIL ceremony. It is a civilized thing to do!

IF a church wants to recognize the civil ceremony with a religious ceremony of it's own, THAT is up to the church. The GOVERNMENT should keep it's nose out of the church business.

If the CEO of Chick-fil-a wants to come out and denounce gay marriage - nothing wrong with him doing that. If groups want to protest his actions by boycotting the restaurant - nothing wrong with that, either. GOVERNMENT should not be involved IN ANY WAY.

Go ahead and buy your sandwiches tomorrow. Nothing wrong with that, either - except for the huge amounts of grease and sodium and empty calories in the sandwiches. Those waffle fries do sound good, though.

OMG!!, I agree with every single word you've said here.

The only problem I have with this whole overblown story is the government getting involved in any of this, and agree 100% on your view on this.

Where we part is I don't think the sandwiches are greasy at all, and they are not empty calories because you're getting a bit of a protein fix. You could get a protein fix more efficiently than a Chick-fil-a sandwich, but they're not that unhealthy, I don't believe.

The waffle fries; now those are delicious empty calories........mmmm.

ADMIN - you must make this a sticky Richie agrees totally with Buggy - I am afraid a sinkhole may swallow the entire Villages tonight.

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For those too far away from Chick Fil A that want to symbolically support Cathy or have worked up a hankerin for one and for those boycotting and craving one.

The Food Lab: How to Make a Chick-Fil-A Sandwich at Home | Serious Eats (http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/07/the-food-lab-how-to-make-a-chick-fil-a-sandwich-at-home.html)

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ADMIN - you must make this a sticky Richie agrees totally with Buggy - I am afraid a sinkhole may swallow the entire Villages tonight.

Assuming the sinkhole didn't occur. He is a benevolent God!