WOW - latest on Obama

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Wow Did you hear?? From the Huff Post, the NY Times et... that Obama is a decendant of slaves??? wow next, he will be a decendant of Jesus Christ himself. Is this a sign of "desperate times" or what??? Liberal media is a joke. :jester:

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Most of the people mentioned in the Bible were of races of dark complexion. The region that Jesus came from featured only people of the Negroid and Mongoloid races. There were no Caucasians in Egypt or the surrounding areas at the time
Nothing in the Bible says the Father was a white man or that His image would be. Jesus is a descendant of Abraham, who came from the Sumerian city of Ur of Jesus mother was born in natherath at that time it was a black population.

Please clarify your point.

:confused:

[Guest]

Most of the people mentioned in the Bible were of races of dark complexion. The region that Jesus came from featured only people of the Negroid and Mongoloid races. There were no Caucasians in Egypt or the surrounding areas at the time
Nothing in the Bible says the Father was a white man or that His image would be. Jesus is a descendant of Abraham, who came from the Sumerian city of Ur of Jesus mother was born in natherath at that time it was a black population.

Please clarify your point.

:confused: My point!! ha I'm laughing it's so funny!! The liberal media is so desperate to have this man reelected they will go to ANY extent to do so. To gain the black vote which they are losing they had to come up with something new so now Obama is a decendant of slaves. Maybe next week he'll be related to Michael Jackson??? WOW - just so exciting for the libs out there. Those of you who vote based on skin color ONLY here's another reason to get excited again. Every day it's something new. Isn't it amazing??? lol

[Guest]

Most of the people mentioned in the Bible were of races of dark complexion. The region that Jesus came from featured only people of the Negroid and Mongoloid races. There were no Caucasians in Egypt or the surrounding areas at the time
Nothing in the Bible says the Father was a white man or that His image would be. Jesus is a descendant of Abraham, who came from the Sumerian city of Ur of Jesus mother was born in natherath at that time it was a black population.

Please clarify your point.

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You seem to be forgetting the Greeks under Alexander the Great. Cleopatra was a descendant of one of Alexander's Generals Ptolemy. Ptolemy I Soter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptolemy_I_Soter)

This is a theory presented here that Jesus would be rather dark skinned with dark eyes. http://suite101.com/article/black-jesus-a207375

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Barack Obama slave john punch | Breaking News for Black America (http://newsone.com/2027969/barack-obama-slave-john-punch/)

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I am confused since Obama's father is from Kenya and lived in Africa all of his natural life and since Obama spent his youth in Indonesia and kenya ,and since Obama's mother is white just what part of Obama was a slave?

How far removed does one have to be before the "I descended from slaves" claim bears little meanng?

I am a descendant of Cesars Roman Generals ...well maybe I am of Italian extraction

Who is running Obama's campaign? Apparently like their candidate they are also Amatuers

[Guest]

I am confused since Obama's father is from Kenya and lived in Africa all of his natural life and since Obama spent his youth in Indonesia and kenya ,and since Obama's mother is white just what part of Obama was a slave?

How far removed does one have to be before the "I descended from slaves" claim bears little meanng?

I am a descendant of Cesars Roman Generals ...well maybe I am of Italian extraction

Who is running Obama's campaign? Apparently like their candidate they are also Amatuers

There are probably a million or more people in the US related to John Punch.

This information seems to be coming out of geneologists from Salt Lake City and not from Obama's camapign.

"Through DNA analysis, property, and marriage records, researchers determined that John Punch was bought to America before 1640 and later captured that year after attempting to escape in Maryland. He was then extradited and tried in Virginia, where he was ordered by the court to become a permanent slave. Punch would later father children with a White woman, who would pass on her freed status to their children who then became landowners. Punch fathered John Bunch, with Bunch’s children marrying in to White families later."

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I am definitely not a conspiracy theorist but I find it interesting that this information was released by four genealogists that work for Ancestry.com. Ancestry.com is a company which had its genesis connected to the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) and is located Provo, Utah, home to Brigham Young University. While today it is publically traded, Ancestry.com is the 10th largest employer in Provo which is 88% Mormon.

I'm not mentioning this to discuss the Mormon church. I'm simply pointing out that this is not some story being promoted by the "liberal" media.

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It seems to me that the campaign would be grasping at straws if they tried to build on that claim, to make him appear to be a slave descendent who even remotely suffered the effects that this nation's slaves and descendants did.

In fact, he is a son of privilege and high academia.....

"In 1959, Obama Sr. received a scholarship in economics through a program organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya. The program offered Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students. Initial financial supporters of the program included Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, Jackie Robinson, and Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, a literacy advocate who provided most of the financial support for Obama Sr.'s early years in the United States, according to the Tom Mboya archives at Stanford University. Funds provided the following year by John F. Kennedy's family paid off old debts of the project and subsidized student stipends, thereby indirectly benefiting Obama Sr. and other members of the 1959 group of scholarship holders. During the 2008 presidential campaign, his son misspoke, saying that the Kennedys organized the initial 1959 student airlift, an error subsequently acknowledged by a campaign spokesman. When Obama Sr. left for America, he left behind his baby son, Roy, and his young wife, Kezia, who was pregnant with their daughter, Auma.

In September 1959, Obama Sr. enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa in Honolulu as the university's first African foreign student........In September 1960, Obama Sr. met Stanley Ann Dunham in a basic Russian language course at the University of Hawaii. Dunham dropped out of the University of Hawaii after the fall 1960 semester after becoming pregnant, while Obama Sr. continued his education. Obama Sr. married Dunham in Wailuku on the Hawaiian island of Maui on 2 February 1961. He eventually told Dunham about his previous marriage in Kenya, but said he was divorced—which she found out years later was a lie.

Obama Sr. and Dunham's son, Barack II, was born in Honolulu on 4 August 1961 at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital—a predecessor of the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children....with his parents' address listed as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in the Kuliouou neighborhood of Honolulu, seven miles east of the university—the rented home of Dunham's parents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham.

Soon after his birth, Dunham took her son to Seattle, Washington, where she took classes at the University of Washington from September 1961 to June 1962. Obama Sr. continued his education at the University of Hawaii ......He graduated from the University of Hawaii after three years with a B.A. in economics and was elected to Phi Beta Kappa and left Hawaii in June 1962.

In September 1962, after a tour of mainland U.S. universities, Obama Sr. traveled to Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he began a graduate fellowship in economics at Harvard University......Meanwhile, Dunham and her son returned to Honolulu in the latter half of 1962, and she resumed her undergraduate education in January 1963 with the spring semester at the University of Hawaii. In January 1964, Dunham filed for divorce in Honolulu; the divorce was not contested by Obama Sr. In 1965, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, a Javanese surveyor whom she had met at the East-West Center. Obama, Sr. was forced to leave his Ph.D. program at Harvard University in May 1964 (and received an A.M. in economics from Harvard in 1965). In June 1964, Obama Sr. met and began dating a 27-year-old Jewish American elementary school teacher named Ruth Beatrice Baker, the daughter of prosperous Lithuanian immigrants to the United States.

Return to Kenya

Obama Sr. returned to his native Kenya in August 1964. Ruth followed Obama Sr. back to Kenya, where she married him on December 24, 1964, and had two sons with him.....

Obama Sr. was hired by an oil company and then served as an economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Transport and later became a senior economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Finance..."

Barack Obama, Sr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_sr).

[Guest]

OK we will give whoever needs it accolades for their historical knowledge. I think it is quite admirable as a matter of fact.

But what is the point? Assume it is all true or false....just what impact would such outdated, impertinent information have regarding decision making for or against a candidate? NONE for those still able to think for themselves.

Still waiting for active discussion of some real issues that affect America and we the people.

btk

[Guest]

OK we will give whoever needs it accolades for their historical knowledge. I think it is quite admirable as a matter of fact.

But what is the point? Assume it is all true or false....just what impact would such outdated, impertinent information have regarding decision making for or against a candidate? NONE for those still able to think for themselves.

Still waiting for active discussion of some real issues that affect America and we the people.

btk

You got this one right on the money.

[Guest]

OK we will give whoever needs it accolades for their historical knowledge. I think it is quite admirable as a matter of fact.

But what is the point? Assume it is all true or false....just what impact would such outdated, impertinent information have regarding decision making for or against a candidate? NONE for those still able to think for themselves.

Still waiting for active discussion of some real issues that affect America and we the people.

btk

"Still waiting for active discussion of some real issues that affect America and we the people."

This would involve a great and dramatic change for this forum !!!!

[Guest]

Trump wants to see the receipt. :ohdear:

[Guest]

OK we will give whoever needs it accolades for their historical knowledge. I think it is quite admirable as a matter of fact.

But what is the point? Assume it is all true or false....just what impact would such outdated, impertinent information have regarding decision making for or against a candidate? NONE for those still able to think for themselves.

Still waiting for active discussion of some real issues that affect America and we the people.

btk

A reasonable post.

[Guest]

Obama may be descended from slaves but no real proof is available......OK

So?

Most all blacks in the U.S. can make that assumption, right?

The only thing that would make this curious is because Obama is from Kenya.

(oh, snap!!)

[Guest]

Is that with 96% certainty?

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Boy will I be glad when the mother ship arrives and takes all you libs back home.

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November.

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Boy will I be glad when the mother ship arrives and takes all you libs back home.

Probably about the same time as for anarchists!

[Guest]

Is that with 96% certainty?

With 96% certainty you never say anything requiring real thought.

[Guest]

Probably about the same time as for anarchists!

The anarchists are on your team. You did know that?