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Pturner
08-20-2012, 10:07 AM
Condoleezza Rice and Darla Moore make history.

bkcunningham1
08-20-2012, 10:09 AM
Good news. Thanks for posting, P! Augusta National admits two women, including Condoleezza Rice (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/story/2012-08-20/masters-admits-female-members-condoleezza-rice-darla-moore/57160252/1)

Joaniesmom
08-20-2012, 10:27 AM
Congratulations to these deserving ladies. I wonder if they actually applied for membership or if the pressure on Augusta has finally grown so strong that they were forced to go out and grab some token women to add to their membership. I don't think any credit or praise should be going to Augusta for this concession. It's something they should have done from the beginning.

Taltarzac725
08-20-2012, 10:29 AM
Good news. Thanks for posting, P! Augusta National admits two women, including Condoleezza Rice (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/story/2012-08-20/masters-admits-female-members-condoleezza-rice-darla-moore/57160252/1)

That's great. Had hoped this would happen.

Pturner
08-20-2012, 10:35 AM
Congratulations to these deserving ladies. I wonder if they actually applied for membership or if the pressure on Augusta has finally grown so strong that they were forced to go out and grab some token women to add to their membership. I don't think any credit or praise should be going to Augusta for this concession. It's something they should have done from the beginning.

News so far just indicate that they were candidates for membership. Don't know if that means a member nominated them, or they applied.

Indydealmaker
08-20-2012, 10:50 AM
Congratulations to these deserving ladies. I wonder if they actually applied for membership or if the pressure on Augusta has finally grown so strong that they were forced to go out and grab some token women to add to their membership. I don't think any credit or praise should be going to Augusta for this concession. It's something they should have done from the beginning.

Absolutely wrong!
A private men's club is just that. It is legal. It is not discrimination. Women can have their own private clubs.

renrod
08-20-2012, 11:14 AM
https://www.google.com/#q=AUGUSTA+NATIONAL+golf+club&hl=en&prmd=imvnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=6mEyUILuEpGc9QSUzoDgBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CBQQqAI&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=5e4f28bfa02dc32c&biw=1311&bih=626

paulandjean
08-20-2012, 11:19 AM
Wonder if they have someone there checking to see if the straps on their shoulders are 2 inch wide.

spk7951
08-20-2012, 12:07 PM
Absolutely wrong!
A private men's club is just that. It is legal. It is not discrimination. Women can have their own private clubs.


When you invite the last four CEO's of one of your largest corporate sponsors to be club members and then when the newest CEO is a woman and does not get an invite that looks and smells like discrimination to me.

For my money this is long overdue and I really hope that Nancy Lopez will not be far behind this two ladies.

billethkid
08-20-2012, 12:18 PM
It is (was) a man's club. Shame on them for knuckling under the pressure of the day and compromising the original intents for the sake of who knows what??!!??

My 2 cents.

btk

graciegirl
08-20-2012, 12:20 PM
Wonder if they have someone there checking to see if the straps on their shoulders are 2 inch wide.


There are no muscle shirts at Augusta National for danged sure. ;)

mickey100
08-20-2012, 12:32 PM
Pretty tough to be a "private" club yet host one of the most public spectacles on the sports calendar. They finally became color-blind in 1990. Its been long overdue for them to allow women members. The two high profile women that were admitted will certainly add luster to their membership roster. Sounds like this is all the result of their new Board chairman. Hootie, imho, belonged in the stone ages.

2BNTV
08-20-2012, 12:32 PM
Congrats to these women.

Article on Darla Moore.

Augusta National admits one of 'toughest' women in business - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/20/us/augusta-darla-moore/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)

Sally Jo
08-20-2012, 12:56 PM
Augusta caved. It seems men are never allowed to have their own clubs. Try inviltrating a women's club and listen to the howling.

jebartle
08-20-2012, 01:00 PM
Just about fell off my chair.....WAS an "Old Boy's Club"....My ole boy played golf there and said that there was not any "Ladies" bathrooms, only "Guests" bathrooms, guess that will be on the "To Do" List!....Ha!....

Indydealmaker
08-20-2012, 01:01 PM
When you invite the last four CEO's of one of your largest corporate sponsors to be club members and then when the newest CEO is a woman and does not get an invite that looks and smells like discrimination to me.

For my money this is long overdue and I really hope that Nancy Lopez will not be far behind this two ladies.

Not even remotely discrimination. Simply consistent with the rules. Previous CEOs were men. It is a men's club. By your logic, it is discrimination for The Villages to disallow home ownership to a percentage greater than 20% under age 55. Is it discrimination for girls to be denied entry to the Boy Scouts? What is in the world is wrong with just playing by the rules?

spk7951
08-20-2012, 04:46 PM
Not even remotely discrimination. Simply consistent with the rules. Previous CEOs were men. It is a men's club. By your logic, it is discrimination for The Villages to disallow home ownership to a percentage greater than 20% under age 55. Is it discrimination for girls to be denied entry to the Boy Scouts? What is in the world is wrong with just playing by the rules?


And rules can be changed. If a group has set rules that is fine but in my opinion when they step onto a very public stage, and solicit funding for such event, then that creates a different environment. Not sure how The Villages though would be discriminating when they are following a state law.

KeepingItReal
08-20-2012, 04:53 PM
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BarryRX
08-20-2012, 05:36 PM
No one forced Augusta to admit women. For years they stuck to their guns that it was a men's club and no women would be admitted. That was their right, whether you believed it was correct or not. Other groups disagreed with their stance and exercised their rights to protest. The protests of late were not very vocal and did not seem to do much to effect the tournament or advertising dollars. We have no idea why Augusta decided to admit women, but just like everything else they do, it was decided behind closed doors because they are a private club. No one, Augusta or the protesters have done anything wrong. I, for one, support their decision. I also would have continued to watch The Masters if they had not decided to admit women.

Indydealmaker
08-20-2012, 05:40 PM
And rules can be changed. If a group has set rules that is fine but in my opinion when they step onto a very public stage, and solicit funding for such event, then that creates a different environment. Not sure how The Villages though would be discriminating when they are following a state law.

The Masters Tournament is a single annual event that is hosted by Augusta. Their choice to host this event should not have to change their charter. The Miss America Beauty Pageant is a national spectacle. Should they be forced to allow men to participate? This will never make sense to me. Why would any woman want to be a part of a men's club? This melding of the sexes is part of the erosion of the core values of this country.

justjim
08-20-2012, 05:44 PM
There are no muscle shirts at Augusta National for danged sure. ;)

Guarantee you no Jeans either. It was only a matter of time. Augusta National "braved the storm" a few years ago with protests from several Women Groups and would not succumb to political correctness. Because they had the $$$$$$ they could afford to do so. Notables that the ladies join include: Buffett, Gates, Pickens, jr. Coors and Palmisano to name a few.

Jim 9922
08-20-2012, 09:43 PM
Augusta caved. It seems men are never allowed to have their own clubs. Try inviltrating a women's club and listen to the howling.

Sorry to say it, but who would want to infiltrate a Woman's club? And for what reason?

Sally Jo
08-20-2012, 09:49 PM
I agree, Jim. Just pointing out that if they did there would be a lot of screaming.

mickey100
08-21-2012, 05:49 AM
And rules can be changed. If a group has set rules that is fine but in my opinion when they step onto a very public stage, and solicit funding for such event, then that creates a different environment. Not sure how The Villages though would be discriminating when they are following a state law.


:BigApplause:

asianthree
08-21-2012, 07:15 AM
i think it just takes the heat off

ajbrown
08-21-2012, 07:35 AM
Just about fell off my chair.....WAS an "Old Boy's Club"....My ole boy played golf there and said that there was not any "Ladies" bathrooms, only "Guests" bathrooms, guess that will be on the "To Do" List!....Ha!....

Who the heck is 'ole boy' ? I always read posts of double eagles and other great golf feats and now he also hung out at Augusta? Famous golf amateur? Pro? I am duly jealous :thumbup:

As far as what Augusta did, IMO it is up to them and their membership. I do not believe they had any obligation to ever let women in. Now the 'ole boys' will have to wear towels when they walk around the club :22yikes:

That said, congratulations to the ladies who received the new membership, although I heard from someone who read a post online from a guy whose neighbor's sister in law heard from a women at a local store in Georgia whose cousin knows a person that works at Augusta that the ladies got a new type of membership. Play anytime after 1PM on the 31st of each month unless a men's tournament is scheduled.

Indydealmaker
08-21-2012, 11:59 AM
Sorry to say it, but who would want to infiltrate a Woman's club? And for what reason?

Unfettered access to the locker room!!:pepper2:

Jim 9922
08-21-2012, 12:11 PM
Unfettered access to the locker room!!:pepper2:
Naaaa! They would make a rule against that. :eek:

I'm going to need a better reason to infiltrate.

jebartle
08-21-2012, 01:24 PM
Your the one to be envied...your so clever with your cart renovations!...Wow!...His invitation to Augusta was from Billy Joe Patton, very famous amateur that was a member at our NC country club (I was sooooo green with envy!)



Who the heck is 'ole boy' ? I always read posts of double eagles and other great golf feats and now he also hung out at Augusta? Famous golf amateur? Pro? I am duly jealous :thumbup:

As far as what Augusta did, IMO it is up to them and their membership. I do not believe they had any obligation to ever let women in. Now the 'ole boys' will have to wear towels when they walk around the club :22yikes:

That said, congratulations to the ladies who received the new membership, although I heard from someone who read a post online from a guy whose neighbor's sister in law heard from a women at a local store in Georgia whose cousin knows a person that works at Augusta that the ladies got a new type of membership. Play anytime after 1PM on the 31st of each month unless a men's tournament is scheduled.

Gat0r
08-21-2012, 02:03 PM
"It's a Mans World" James Brown

coralway
08-21-2012, 02:11 PM
"It's a Mans World" James Brown






Maybe back in 1966 .. but now...........

gerryann
08-21-2012, 02:15 PM
"It's a Mans World" James Brown

Ummm.......NO

billethkid
08-21-2012, 07:05 PM
it is not against the law to have specific qualities, attributes, gender, race, religion or what ever else.

How many females on any NFL team?

How many white folks in a black caucus?

And so on?

It's just the ones that one special interest group or another wants to make an issue of or about of course assisted by the media to perpetuate sensationalism and viewers.

btk

Virtual Geezer
08-21-2012, 08:04 PM
A sad day for sure.

VG

Taltarzac725
08-22-2012, 06:02 AM
Next they will have men in beauty pageants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119786/Jenna-Talackova-Transgender-beauty-queen-kicked-Miss-Universe-Canada-pageant.html

All kidding aside, this is great for golf. http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20120822_Inquirer_Editorial__Augusta_National_take s_tee_shot_into_a_new_era.html

Really do not see the argument that letting women into Augusta National as Members is going to harm the existence of men and or women exclusive spas, bars, golf courses, beauty pagents, colleges and universities, etc.

Jenna Talackova was kicked out of the Trump beauty pageant because she was born a man. You would not know she was born a man though from looking at her.

paulandjean
08-22-2012, 08:14 AM
A sad day for sure.

VG

WHY? Will this event change mens golf forever....

BarryRX
08-22-2012, 10:07 AM
"It's a Mans World" James Brown
"But it wouldn't be nothing without a woman or a girl" James Brown

zcaveman
08-22-2012, 11:54 AM
A sad day for sure.

VG

It is one less thing for anyone to complain about next year.