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ohpoo
08-25-2012, 10:00 AM
I have witnessed a home in the Buttonwood area where the yard is completely covered in rock. I thought you could only do partial coverage with the rock. Are there rules governing this?
Barefoot
08-25-2012, 10:16 AM
I have witnessed a home in the Buttonwood area
where the yard is completely covered in rock. I thought you could only do partial coverage with the rock. Are there rules governing this?
I've wondered about this. I think that TV covenants are not in agreement with Florida State laws which encourage less grass, and water conservation. I think that the Florida State law would prevail in a court challenge, but I sure wouldn't want to be a test case. Just some random musings on my part, no facts.
wendyquat
08-25-2012, 02:49 PM
If its a cyv, it can be all rock.
mickey100
08-25-2012, 02:55 PM
I've wondered about this. I think that TV covenants are not in agreement with Florida State laws which encourage less grass, and water conservation. I think that the Florida State law would prevail in a court challenge, but I sure wouldn't want to be a test case. Just some random musings on my part, no facts.
I agree! I wouldn't want to fight the Villages on anything, in a court of law, but agree that it seems like the Florida state law would supersede the Villages rules.
bike42
08-25-2012, 04:01 PM
I'm not sure which FL law you're referring to, but since all TV homes are required to have irrigation systems and all irrigation water is from runoff or grey water, I don't know how you could make a case that rocks would be more "green".
Check your covenants. I believe that most sections except villas are required to have a minimum of 50% in turf.
asianthree
08-25-2012, 04:06 PM
someone posted 51% real grass
Barefoot
08-25-2012, 10:46 PM
I'm not sure which FL law you're referring to, but since all TV homes are required to have irrigation systems and all irrigation water is from runoff or grey water, I don't know how you could make a case that rocks would be more "green".
Check your covenants. I believe that most sections except villas are required to have a minimum of 50% in turf.
Villages Covenants differ from Florida State laws.
I was told that irrigation water on houses N of 466 is NOT runoff or brown water, but is the same water as inside your house. Anyone confirm this?
Barefoot
08-26-2012, 06:32 AM
Here is information on Florida Friendly Landscaping that I found on the Net. It talks about rocks and grass.
In 2009 Governor Christ signed Senate Bill 2080, also called Water Rights Bill. The Bill prevents Homeowners Associations from prohibiting property owners from implementing Florida Friendly Landscaping.
Florida Friendly Landscaping and Senate Bill 2080 - The Bosshardt Blog (http://blog.bosshardtrealty.com/the_bosshardt_blog/2009/09/florida_first_landscaping_senate_bill_2080_alachua _county.html)
gomoho
08-26-2012, 06:43 AM
Senate Bill 2080 is interesting - would like someone to do a presentation after speaking with our ARC so we can be advised exactly what we can or cannot do. I would be interested in getting rid of some of this water-hogging, high maintanance grass!
Barefoot
08-26-2012, 06:54 AM
Senate Bill 2080 is interesting - would like someone to do a presentation after speaking with our ARC so we can be advised exactly what we can or cannot do. I would be interested in getting rid of some of this water-hogging, high maintanance grass!
I'd guess that our ARC would support the enforcement of TV covenants. However, if I'm understanding the intent of Bill 2080, Florida Law supersedes homeowner covenants.
But since we all want to preserve the uniformity of TV properties (we do, don't we?), and since we don't want to have unhappy neighbors, I think that most residents will probably adhere to covenants rather than implement Florida Friendly Landscaping.
graciegirl
08-26-2012, 06:56 AM
Oh please...if ya have to have rock...DelWebb in Arizona has just what you need.
I LOVE the green expanses.
asianthree
08-26-2012, 07:45 AM
me too GG but would like to see in small yards a good fake turf available that need no water
bestmickey
08-30-2012, 01:34 AM
(Never mind. Post deleted. Realized that since I am not a resident, folks wouldn't be interested in my comments on this issue.)
Joaniesmom
08-30-2012, 04:23 AM
We purchased a CYV in Briar Meadow where 80% or more of the landscaping was professionally done in stone. I think it looks very pretty and neat. In addition, there are a variety of beautiful plants added to the lot. I want to explore having each plant being given it's own drip tube rather than wasting thousands of gallons of water on regular irrigation. Currently we have a small, and I do mean small, area of grass. Definitely can be trimmed with a weed whacker. I don't know if this is in compliance with TV rules or Florida rules but I can't for the life of me see why anyone would be offended.
asianthree
08-30-2012, 07:54 AM
so do we know if this house was a cyv
Barefoot
08-30-2012, 12:40 PM
I have witnessed a home in the Buttonwood area where the yard is completely covered in rock. I thought you could only do partial coverage with the rock. Are there rules governing this?
so do we know if this house was a cyv
Since it's OK to completely rock CYVs, I'd assume that the OP was probably asking about houses and not villas.
I have also seen designer homes that have lawns that are completely rocked. There is one in Belvedere Village. It looks lovely, but has no grass whatsoever on the front lawn. Lots of bushes, trees and rocks. It's beautifully done. I assume no neighbours have complained, and why would they, it looks fine.
skip0358
08-30-2012, 02:38 PM
I do believe I've seen the house your talking about and wondered the same thing. It is deff a rock garden including the rock mountain. i to thought that TV rules forbid that but then again should we or shouldn't we enforce that one. I doubt they had a permit.
gomoho
08-30-2012, 07:35 PM
So if they are not gobbling gobs of water to keep their expanse green and healthy and not loading up with fertilizer to cause the ponds to be stressed what is the issue? Rocks and landscape plants can be beautiful if done well and we have lots and lots and lots of green expanse with our golf courses and public areas. We only have a finite amount of water on this earth and why use it up when you don't need to? Isn't that something - that was one of the most fascinating things I learned in geology - there is only so much water on earth that keeps recylcing itself. Maybe that is why the gulf states are being drowned right now - they are getting the water the midwest normally gets. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
perrjojo
08-31-2012, 12:56 PM
Oh please...if ya have to have rock...DelWebb in Arizona has just what you need.
I LOVE the green expanses.
I'm with you. Our CYV neighborhood looks more like Arizona than Florida due to all of the stones apes.
Bogie Shooter
08-31-2012, 01:57 PM
Senate Bill 2080 is interesting - would like someone to do a presentation after speaking with our ARC so we can be advised exactly what we can or cannot do. I would be interested in getting rid of some of this water-hogging, high maintanance grass!
Rather than get the information second-hand why don't you call yourself?
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JAV0108
08-31-2012, 05:13 PM
Not "ALL" irrigation water is from run off, I think only south of 466. I live in Springdale and our irrigation is the same as house water.
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