walkin' the dog

[njbchbum]

the recent leash thread and the multitude of poop threads in this forum have made me wonder...why do dog owners take their dogs for their am/pm constitutional BEFORE they have taken care of business instead of AFTER they have used their OWN property for same. growing up with our dogs, not one of us was allowed to take the dog off property until AFTER they were properly relieved. just wonderin'......

[asianthree]

then we would not have a poop thread:girlneener: then what would we write about

[Taltarzac725]

the recent leash thread and the multitude of poop threads in this forum have made me wonder...why do dog owners take their dogs for their am/pm constitutional BEFORE they have taken care of business instead of AFTER they have used their OWN property for same. growing up with our dogs, not one of us was allowed to take the dog off property until AFTER they were properly relieved. just wonderin'......

Probably because of the fact that so few Villages homes have fences. Most of the dogwalkers in our neighbor clean up after their pets when they walk them.

[gomoho]

sorry, but my dogs need to walk before they can do their business - can only walk around in circles so many times in your yard - I feel fortunate we have a pump station area where they can relieve themselves, I can pick it up, and no harm done!

[asianthree]

sorry, but my dogs need to walk before they can do their business - can only walk around in circles so many times in your yard - I feel fortunate we have a pump station area where they can relieve themselves, I can pick it up, and no harm done!

if you take them to yoga, it works faster than walking:1rotfl:

[bluedog103]

Probably because of the fact that so few Villages homes have fences. Most of the dogwalkers in our neighbor clean up after their pets when they walk them.

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wasn't all this dog poop business solved just a month ago?

[rmcpklinefelter]

...but I DO have my DeeDee relieve herself BEFORE I walk her...when she can cooperate!

[CFrance]

My dog can make it around the neighborhood fine without peeing. I, however...

[KeepingItReal]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.

Excellent Bluedog, as a dog owner we also never allowed our dog to mess in other peoples yards, dog urine especially females can kill grass..

[CFrance]

Excellent Bluedog, as a dog owner we also never allowed our dog to mess in other peoples yards, dog urine especially females can kill grass..

Second that. We walk our dog in the landscaping. (That tells you something about the standard number of shrubs provided in a spec home!) Took about two days before he caught on that we weren't going anywhere till he peed. Now it's ritual for him. We don't want him killing our grass, let alone someone else's. When we get around to doing some more landscaping, there will be a dedicated spot for him. Poop's different--you can pick that up and no harm done to the grass.

[Barefoot]

Wasn't all this dog poop business solved just a month ago?

It seems to be a never ending source of entertainment .... :posting:

[Golfingnut]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.

We take our dog on a golf cart ride after he does his business in our yard. Like you say dogs understand and like a routine. Remember, you must be the pack leader to give you pet a happy life.

[Golfingnut]

Wasn't all this dog poop business solved just a month ago?

We have a hundred or more new folks moving in each month and may not know the rules. :wave:

[graciegirl]

My dog can make it around the neighborhood fine without peeing. I, however...

Now that's funny!

[Taltarzac725]

Cannot say that I can tell the rule following dog owners by all the dead spots in their lawns due to female dogs peeing. Bushes are kind of hard to pee in for female pooches. So, most dog owners with female canines in the Villages would have dead spots from the urine. I have noticed dead spots in lawns but they look like it's from cinch bugs.

My dog usually pees at Doggie Doo Run Run. The only good sized dog park anywhere near the Villages. The dog parks do have spots of dead grass from where many dogs have peed over many days.

[shcisamax]

if you take them to yoga, it works faster than walking:1rotfl:


OMG, I don't think I can ever go to yoga again without checking out the room.

[shcisamax]

Yes, but further to CFrance's comment, some old dogs need to go more than once and although they have relieved themselves dutifully and responsibly before they have left the comfort of their own domain, the excitement? the joy? the relaxation? of the walk brings on another moment when they need to relieve themselves. It happens ...to the best of us.

[784caroline]

As a dog owner who walks the dog, I ALWAYS relive myself before I go for a walk.

[Taltarzac725]

My pooch has to mark his territory while taking a walk by going at every other place some other dog has pee'd. So, I rarely take him on walks in Lynnhaven because he has to stop and pee every ten feet. It takes a half hour to go 600 yards unless he is all out of pee.

Seldom though are there any bald spots on lawns where all these neighborhood dogs have been marking their territory.

[Bogie Shooter]

We have a hundred or more new folks moving in each month and may not know the rules. :wave:

You mean common sense, right?

[bluedog103]

Yes, but further to CFrance's comment, some old dogs need to go more than once and although they have relieved themselves dutifully and responsibly before they have left the comfort of their own domain, the excitement? the joy? the relaxation? of the walk brings on another moment when they need to relieve themselves. It happens ...to the best of us.
That's why you have you dog on a leash, so you can control where they go. Our dogs may want to go an a neighbor's lawn to explore or whatever but they're not allowed to

[shcisamax]

Have you ever seen a dog being pulled along on a leash and peeing simultaneously? If they have to go, they go. As for my comment, I think that is why they make a product called Depends because some people can't control themselves either. Maybe we should put the Depends on the dogs when they go walking. This thread has really gotten watered down to the lowest common denominator. Time to move on.

[goodgrief]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.



:thumbup:

[Taltarzac725]

Really do not believe that people that say their dogs never pee in others' yards here in the Villages. Unless you have an invisible fence and keep your dogs at home all the time; there is no way a dog will not pee somewhere where he or she smells another dog's urine.

[bluedog103]

Our dogs DO NOT use neighbors' yards for a latrine. I don't have these 30 ft. leashes, we use an ordinary leash so I control where the dogs go. We have one small dog and one large one. If I don't allow them on a lawn they don't go there.This is not a difficult concept. I control the dogs, they are never in command. What they want to do and what they're allowed to do are not the same.

[Didiwinbob]

There is a product that can be placed on a dog that catches the pee. I've seen this used on unnumbered males in fostered situations.


Chris

[Taltarzac725]

My dog can make it around the neighborhood fine without peeing. I, however...

Thanks for injecting some humor into this thread. This topic sure gets old fast.

[Shimpy]

It's been said that if aliens from outer space were watching us and saw people walking their dogs, who do you think they would think is the master? The one in front or the one behind with a plastic bag picking up for the one in front?

[Taltarzac725]

It's been said that if aliens from outer space were watching us and saw people walking their dogs, who do you think they would think is the master? The one in front or the one behind with a plastic bag picking up for the one in front?

And, the ones who often get dogs**t pushed into our faces if we are too eager to bend down in pick up the poop while the dog does its little "just pooped" dance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huI6_Uc35dM

[Taltarzac725]

And, the ones who often get dogs**t pushed into our faces if we are too eager to bend down in pick up the poop while the dog does its little "just pooped" dance. Dog doing his poop dance - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huI6_Uc35dM)

There are several of these dogs doing the poop dance on YouTube.

Sounds like they have glands in their feet which they use to mark their territory after they poop or pee.

[ajbrown]

Really do not believe that people that say their dogs never pee in others' yards here in the Villages. Unless you have an invisible fence and keep your dogs at home all the time; there is no way a dog will not pee somewhere where he or she smells another dog's urine.

Count me as one you can believe. I cannot imagine any dog I have owned (past the age of puppy when they do not understand some basic rules) that would leave my side to pee during a walk. If one of my dogs 'tried' to leave my side, it is a signal to me they REALLY need to go and we find a place as soon as we can, but never someone's yard. Maybe I am lucky....

[graciegirl]

Count me as one you can believe. I cannot imagine any dog I have owned (past the age of puppy when they do not understand some basic rules) that would leave my side to pee during a walk. If one of my dogs 'tried' to leave my side, it is a signal to me they REALLY need to go and we find a place as soon as we can, but never someone's yard. Maybe I am lucky....

You are lucky and your doggy is lucky and so cute too from your avatar picture.

Parents who are praised about nice children frequently say they are lucky. I, being an ex teacher, feel durned sure that more times than not it is a lot to do with good parenting.

Apples don't fall too far from trees, even furry ones.;)

[Josie70]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.I


I take my hat off to you I wish other people would think the same way as you do..Thank you....

[Josie70]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.

I take my hat off to you....Thank you I wish more people would think the same way as you do.......

[Taltarzac725]

Count me as one you can believe. I cannot imagine any dog I have owned (past the age of puppy when they do not understand some basic rules) that would leave my side to pee during a walk. If one of my dogs 'tried' to leave my side, it is a signal to me they REALLY need to go and we find a place as soon as we can, but never someone's yard. Maybe I am lucky....

Good for you. Many of the neighborhoods in the Villages offer either the street, people's lawns, or the postal centers as places for pooches to pee.

My dog usually goes to a local dog park in the mornings to do his business. No dog park anywhere near the Villages is open past dusk though.

[cathyw]

Have you ever seen a dog being pulled along on a leash and peeing simultaneously? If they have to go, they go. As for my comment, I think that is why they make a product called Depends because some people can't control themselves either. Maybe we should put the Depends on the dogs when they go walking. This thread has really gotten watered down to the lowest common denominator. Time to move on.

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[Taltarzac725]

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I have never seen a dog in the Villages with diapers on like this.

[cathyw]

I have never seen a dog in the Villages with diapers on like this.

No, neither have I. But you never know what's under those cute little doggie outfits. The fact that they actually sell doggie diapers is shocking to me.... but somebody must be buying them.

[Skybo]

The fact that they actually sell doggie diapers is shocking to me.... but somebody must be buying them. LOL

Dogs (just like people) can become incontinent due to age, injury or disease. I think that is the primary market for them, although people who are having house training/marking problems with their dogs might use them as well.

[shcisamax]

Do they make them in jumbo for the larger physique? I don't know though. Ever since the woman astronaut got caught trying to kill someone and didn't want to stop enroute so was wearing a diaper, I just can't get excited about them. :)

[cathyw]

Dogs (just like people) can become incontinent due to age, injury or disease. I think that is the primary market for them, although people who are having house training/marking problems with their dogs might use them as well.

Yes, I didn't think about it that way. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Skybo]

Yes, I didn't think about it that way. Thanks for pointing that out.

You're welcome. I've known a few folks that have had to use them on their pooches for medical reasons. The dogs usually hate them, but they serve the purpose.

Do they make them in jumbo for the larger physique?

Yes

[CFrance]

Our dogs DO NOT use neighbors' yards for a latrine. I don't have these 30 ft. leashes, we use an ordinary leash so I control where the dogs go. We have one small dog and one large one. If I don't allow them on a lawn they don't go there.This is not a difficult concept. I control the dogs, they are never in command. What they want to do and what they're allowed to do are not the same.

DITTO!!! Dog does not go where owner doesn't allow him to go. Leash training plus a six-foot-leash takes care of that. Owner is the boss of the dog.

[Skybo]

Count me as one you can believe. I cannot imagine any dog I have owned (past the age of puppy when they do not understand some basic rules) that would leave my side to pee during a walk. If one of my dogs 'tried' to leave my side, it is a signal to me they REALLY need to go and we find a place as soon as we can, but never someone's yard. Maybe I am lucky....

DITTO!!! *Dog does not go where owner doesn't allow him to go. Leash training plus a six-foot-leash takes care of that. Owner is the boss of the dog.

Yep! Not once since I've lived here, have I ever let my dogs step one foot onto someone else's yard, not even to sniff, let alone to pee or poop. I've never understood the rational from some folks that their dogs "have to" go on someone else's property. I understand that some dogs need to walk for awhile before they do their business, and I certainly understand a dog's instinctual desire to mark. And I know from experience (as a visitor) that walking in circles around a house doesn't work very well. But that's my concern. It shouldn't be my neighbor's concern.

[Taltarzac725]

Dog Walks, Pees With Style (VIDEO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/dog-walks-pees-video_n_885275.html)

I will bet that Chester misses once in a while though as would any dog peeing in his or her own yard if there are no fences separated yard from yard. Even if there are fences, fences have holes where pee would drip onto the bordering yard.

Wish people would use a little common sense and kindness towards animals when addressing issues like poop and pee done my pets. I wonder if they cause as big a stink for feral cats who wander around and pee an poop where they want as well as snakes, birds, rabbits, raccoons, opossums, turtles, frogs, lizards, coyotes, bears, wildcats, feral dogs, wolves, deer, horses, armadillos, etc.

[shcisamax]

Wonder what happens when he poops. I think Chester can make it on America's Got Talent.

[Taltarzac725]

Unalaska police blotter: 'Persistent pooping, peeing pets' perturb people: Alaska Newsreader | Alaska news at adn.com (http://www.adn.com/2012/07/18/2546610/unalaska-police-blotter-persistent.html)

Quite amusing police blotter. Nice alliteration.

This is also hilarious-- http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-unalaska-police-blotter-makes-for-great-alaska-literature-20120216,0,2881985.story?track=rss

"Animal - Petite piles of poo promulgated by pets prompted a protest to police." Sgt. Jennifer Shockley

[Joaniesmom]

Dog Walks, Pees With Style (VIDEO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/dog-walks-pees-video_n_885275.html)

I will bet that Chester misses once in a while though as would any dog peeing in his or her own yard if there are no fences separated yard from yard. Even if there are fences, fences have holes where pee would drip onto the bordering yard.

Wish people would use a little common sense and kindness towards animals when addressing issues like poop and pee done my pets. I wonder if they cause as big a stink for feral cats who wander around and pee an poop where they want as well as snakes, birds, rabbits, raccoons, opossums, turtles, frogs, lizards, coyotes, bears, wildcats, feral dogs, wolves, deer, horses, armadillos, etc.

:agree: My goodness. What a kaffuffel! Pee spots on your lawn? Never saw one of those, even around a light pole or mailbox pole. If you should get one, spray the grass with repellent.

I always carry a bag and clean up after my pups. But they get so much joy from marking after other animals. That means a drop or two. Now if you folks who object to that find a mark on your yard, please contact me and I'll have the sod people come out and repair it. :1rotfl:

[Love2cruise]

:agree: My goodness. What a kaffuffel! Pee spots on your lawn? Never saw one of those, even around a light pole or mailbox pole. If you should get one, spray the grass with repellent.

I always carry a bag and clean up after my pups. But they get so much joy from marking after other animals. That means a drop or two. Now if you folks who object to that find a mark on your yard, please contact me and I'll have the sod people come out and repair it. :1rotfl:

Amen, well said!! I was told by my landscaper that the 2-3 feet of lawn by the street actually is called an easement and belongs to the villages. We are required to maintain it, so if my dog does his business in that space (and I do clean up after my dog) he isn't doing it on "your" lawn.

[njbchbum]

Amen, well said!! I was told by my landscaper that the 2-3 feet of lawn by the street actually is called an easement and belongs to the villages. We are required to maintain it, so if my dog does his business in that space (and I do clean up after my dog) he isn't doing it on "your" lawn.

but the dog IS doing it on the easement section of the lawn that the homeowner is required to maintain - correct?

[asianthree]

up north we paid pooper scoopeer to take care of our lawn kids did a good job

[Love2cruise]

:agree: My goodness. What a kaffuffel! Pee spots on your lawn? Never saw one of those, even around a light pole or mailbox pole. If you should get one, spray the grass with repellent.

I always carry a bag and clean up after my pups. But they get so much joy from marking after other animals. That means a drop or two. Now if you folks who object to that find a mark on your yard, please contact me and I'll have the sod people come out and repair it. :1rotfl:

but the dog IS doing it on the easement section of the lawn that the homeowner is required to maintain - correct?

Correct! I'm curious what prompted you to start this thread since you are summering in the NJ Shore. Did you get a report
from a neighbor that a dog peed on your lawn?

[Love2cruise]

:agree: My goodness. What a kaffuffel! Pee spots on your lawn? Never saw one of those, even around a light pole or mailbox pole. If you should get one, spray the grass with repellent.

I always carry a bag and clean up after my pups. But they get so much joy from marking after other animals. That means a drop or two. Now if you folks who object to that find a mark on your yard, please contact me and I'll have the sod people come out and repair it. :1rotfl:

but the dog IS doing it on the easement section of the lawn that the homeowner is required to maintain - correct?

Correct! I'm curious what prompted you to start this thread since you are summering in the NJ Shore. Did you get a report
from a neighbor that a dog peed on your lawn?

[Roaddog53]

Not having a fence is not a reason, it's an excuse. We have two dogs in a designer with an invisible fence. The dogs stay in our yard with either my wife or me outside with them until they take care of business. The dogs know the routine so it's no problem at all. There's no way I'd walk dogs and let them use a neigbor's yard for a latrine. That's just rude and inconsiderate. Your dog should use your yard and only your yard.

:agree:
Just today another owner let their dog wonder onto my lawn and was getting ready to let the dog do it's business when I asked him please do not let your dog on my lawn for their business! He didn't even look up and just said. Oh. ok. Come on "..." That was the second time THIS week a DOG owner was going to let their dog go in broad daylight on the lawn. I can only imagine how many owners at night use other's lawns when, no one is watching or they are sleeping, and they are "walking their dog" late. We know this since we go for late night rides on the cart and see owners doing this! the poop thread is aliiiive!

[njbchbum]

Correct! I'm curious what prompted you to start this thread since you are summering in the NJ Shore. Did you get a report
from a neighbor that a dog peed on your lawn?

love2cruise -
was interested because not only do we have the problem in the villages - we also have it here at the shore. and as i read the various posts on these forums it seem apparent that many dog walkers do not share the responsibility with which i was raised to make sure our dogs took care of their business on our property before they went for a walk in the neighborhood. it was a pleasure to read that some do!

as snowbirds we always return to the villages to find our lawn a wretched mess from pee spots and spend weeks repairing them before it is time to fly north again. since we are the absentee owners on our side of the street, it seems that our property is determined by dog walkers to be fair game for their dog's needs.

i really did get a chuckle out of some of the responses - didn't you? it's good to see that some posters have a great sense of humor and others a sense of responsibility.

love2cruise - do you find it a pleasant experience to sit in front of you house with a morning coffee or evening cocktail and have to watch some dog take a dump in front of you - whether the walker picks up after the dog or not?

[Love2cruise]

love2cruise -
was interested because not only do we have the problem in the villages - we also have it here at the shore. and as i read the various posts on these forums it seem apparent that many dog walkers do not share the responsibility with which i was raised to make sure our dogs took care of their business on our property before they went for a walk in the neighborhood. it was a pleasure to read that some do!

as snowbirds we always return to the villages to find our lawn a wretched mess from pee spots and spend weeks repairing them before it is time to fly north again. since we are the absentee owners on our side of the street, it seems that our property is determined by dog walkers to be fair game for their dog's needs.

i really did get a chuckle out of some of the responses - didn't you? it's good to see that some posters have a great sense of humor and others a sense of responsibility.

love2cruise - do you find it a pleasant experience to sit in front of you house with a morning coffee or evening cocktail and have to watch some dog take a dump in front of you - whether the walker picks up after the dog or not?


To answer your question, as long as the dog owner picks up after their dog I don't care. And as far as pee spots, I have yet to find one on our lawn, and my dog does pee in our yard.

This reminds me of an old lady when I was a kid and when we walked home from school if we touched a blade of her grass she would come out and yell at us. I thought then as I do now, it's only grass!

My outlook on life is, don't sweat the small stuff, and if it's not life threatening, it's small stuff!

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Enjoy the rest of you summer and safe travels back to TV.

[lightworker888]

are available at Whole Earth. They are disposable. When our dog is in heat I use regular pads in a doggie pant that you can get at Walmart. I don't know if a dog would hold off going and use the diaper as the receptacle. There are also diapers for males at Walmart I believe. This was in answer to Taltarzac and Cathyw's comments.

[Skybo]

It is generally believed that the level of nitrogen in a dog’s urine determines whether or not their urine will burn grass. Not all dogs have the same levels. I’ve had dogs in the past who didn’t burn the grass. That is not the case with the dogs I have now. My backyard grass has brown pee spots all over it from my dogs. I don’t even allow my own dogs to pee on my front yard for that very reason. And I don’t appreciate it when others let their dogs go on my front yard. It’s not the end of the world when one does, I’ve never bothered to say anything to anyone, but I think it’s rude. More importantly to me is the bad rap that responsible dog owners get due to the actions of irresponsible owners. For people who don't really like dogs to begin with, it must be infuriating. TV is very pet friendly in general, but there are plenty of people who would like to place more limits on pet ownership in TV. Why give them more reason to feel that way? As njbchbum pointed out, this is not unique to TV. The same issue was a source of contention in my old neighborhood.

Amen, well said!! I was told by my landscaper that the 2-3 feet of lawn by the street actually is called an easement and belongs to the villages. We are required to maintain it, so if my dog does his business in that space (and I do clean up after my dog) he isn't doing it on "your" lawn.

I think your landscaper is full of beans. An easement does not mean that TV owns that piece of land, it simply means that they have a right to access and use it for a specific purpose, such as utilities. To say that because of an easement, all villagers have a legal right to do anything they want on the front 2 feet of everyone else’s property is just silly. A few months back someone posted a link from either The Sun or a POA bulletin that addressed the issue of responsible dog ownership and it specifically stated that people should not let their dogs onto other people’s property.

[njbchbum]

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I think your landscaper is full of beans. An easement does not mean that TV owns that piece of land, it simply means that they have a right to access and use it for a specific purpose, such as utilities. To say that because of an easement, all villagers have a legal right to do anything they want on the front 2 feet of everyone else’s property is just silly. snipped

i don't know about love2cruise, but i do know that the villages is not paying the property taxes on the easement on my property! ;)

[gomoho]

i don't know about love2cruise, but i do know that the villages is not paying the property taxes on the easement on my property! ;)

No they are not, but guess what - it's theirs. Probably have the same easement on the sides and rear of your property. Such is life. The man is always in control when you live in a development. Not saying it's good or bad just sayin it is so.

[Joaniesmom]

Here's just one more thought I had regarding walking my dogs. One is 3 pounds and the other is 6. They both tinkle at home but, as I said before they love to mark their way around the neighborhood, drops at a time. Here's the thought. Have you ever put your hand down on the street on a hot day? I do this every time I walk the dogs. Some times it is so hot you can fry an egg there. You wouldn't walk barefoot on the pavement and I won't walk tiny dogs there either. As I also said before, if I or my dogs damage anything on your property, I will have it repaired. It's just grass, folks!

[bluedog103]

Here's just one more thought I had regarding walking my dogs. One is 3 pounds and the other is 6. They both tinkle at home but, as I said before they love to mark their way around the neighborhood, drops at a time. Here's the thought. Have you ever put your hand down on the street on a hot day? I do this every time I walk the dogs. Some times it is so hot you can fry an egg there. You wouldn't walk barefoot on the pavement and I won't walk tiny dogs there either. As I also said before, if I or my dogs damage anything on your property, I will have it repaired. It's just grass, folks!
You're correct, the road is often too hot for a dogs paws. That's why we walk our dogs early in the morning or in the evening on hot days. This eliminates any necessity of my dogs trespassing on the property of others.
As Skybo points out, the easement does not tranfer ownership of that section of your property. It simply gives a right of way for specific purposes such as utilities. The property belongs to the homeowner. It's probably not advisable to go to your lawn guy for legal advice.

[duffysmom]

I have to say that I'm amazed and perplexed that anyone would allow their dog to tresspass on their neighbor's property. I realize that it's a dog's nature to sniff the scent of other dogs so why not go to open areas where they can walk and sniff to their heart's content and stay off the hot pavement at the same time. It's not whether or not it ruins the grass, it's trespassing, I watched a woman allow her dog to go up to a flower bed and pee on the rose bush. What is the mentality behind that, is it a sense of entitlement? :confused:

[Happinow]

I have never seen a dog in the Villages with diapers on like this.

My neighbor has a little dog who is older. He wears a doggie diaper because he sometimes has accidents in the house. It just wraps around him and prevents the owners from having to get their carpet cleaned from accidents.

[Love2cruise]

You're correct, the road is often too hot for a dogs paws. That's why we walk our dogs early in the morning or in the evening on hot days. This eliminates any necessity of my dogs trespassing on the property of others.
As Skybo points out, the easement does not tranfer ownership of that section of your property. It simply gives a right of way for specific purposes such as utilities. The property belongs to the homeowner. It's probably not advisable to go to your lawn guy for legal advice.

Ok this is getting ridicules, who said anything about getting legal advice from a lawn person. I only said that is what I was told. Geez I thought I was getting away from old crabby people, moving to the friendliest place on earth. Guess I was wrong. As if all of you are perfect in everything you do. I'm sure not one of you ever do anything that would upset your neighbors. I'm glad there are so many perfect people, but not if you walk your dog and it happens to lift its leg on grass. Get a life! As I said before its grass, not a Persian rug.

[CFrance]

To answer your question, as long as the dog owner picks up after their dog I don't care. And as far as pee spots, I have yet to find one on our lawn, and my dog does pee in our yard.

This reminds me of an old lady when I was a kid and when we walked home from school if we touched a blade of her grass she would come out and yell at us. I thought then as I do now, it's only grass!

My outlook on life is, don't sweat the small stuff, and if it's not life threatening, it's small stuff!

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Enjoy the rest of you summer and safe travels back to TV.

But it's my lawn you're not sweating! And that's not small stuff to me. I don't want yellow spots all along my easement. Lucky for you your dog's urine doesn't kill the grass, but lots of dogs' do.

[Fisherman]

Granted, I think we can all agree that dogs, no matter what the size, need to be walked and exercised. We have places for that in the Villages called doggie parks. Daily buisness should be done on your own property. I played golf on Southern Star last week and found dog feces on four of nine holes. You can't even walk behind the Pennecamp Pool because it has become a dog walk where folks just let their animals do their business and deposit the feces in the garbage receptacles. The volume of dog urination in that area has killed most of the grass and now all you see is dollar weed and red clover. I own a dog owner, and I considered all the options of providing a comfortable environment for my pet before moving here. To allow damage to our common areas or our neighbor's yards is not in line with this being the friendliest hometown ever. We can all make this a better place by respecting each other. Like everything else in this world, a few people abuse the system, and then before you know it, it gets out of control because it is human nature that if it is okay for one, it is okay for all and then wow, we have a huge problem.

[Taltarzac725]

Granted, I think we can all agree that dogs, no matter what the size, need to be walked and exercised. We have places for that in the Villages called doggie parks. Daily buisness should be done on your own property. I played golf on Southern Star last week and found dog feces on four of nine holes. You can't even walk behind the Pennecamp Pool because it has become a dog walk where folks just let their animals do their business and deposit the feces in the garbage receptacles. The volume of dog urination in that area has killed most of the grass and now all you see is dollar weed and red clover. I own a dog owner, and I considered all the options of providing a comfortable environment for my pet before moving here. To allow damage to our common areas or our neighbor's yards is not in line with this being the friendliest hometown ever. We can all make this a better place by respecting each other. Like everything else in this world, a few people abuse the system, and then before you know it, it gets out of control because it is human nature that if it is okay for one, it is okay for all and then wow, we have a huge problem.

Sounds like Pennecamp needs a dog park.

Lots of Lynnhaven dog owners walk their pooches near the Lynnhaven pool and there are no dead spots from where dogs pee there. Most of the people walking the dogs at the Lynnhaven pool also clean up after their pets. Some even clean up poop from other dogs if they have extra bags. I have done this myself. I do think trash belongs in a trash bin. There are trash bins at the postal areas so people should be able to put their dog poop in these receptacles unless they make them only for recycling. Garbage smells. You do not have to stand near garbage cans.

I do not buy the slippery slope argument when it comes to dog poop and pee. Most of the people in the Villages look out for other people and do not seem to mind dealing with life's realities when it comes to having neighbors who have pets.

Poop and pee from dogs is a serious problem in some cities like San Francisco and New York City where there is often very little in terms of a sense of community. I just do not see those kinds of attitudes so much in the Villages.

[Barefoot]

[QUOTE=Fisherman;551310]Granted, I think we can all agree that dogs, no matter what the size, need to be walked and exercised. We have places for that in the Villages called doggie parks. [QUOTE]

I love TV. I think the Developer's vision for a paradise for retirees has been flawless. With one huge exception.

With 50,000 families living in TV at Build Out, with a potential of two dogs per household, that's 100,000 dogs. Of course, it may be only 30% of residents that own pooches, but that is still one heck of a lot of pets! There are currently only THREE dog parks in TV that are provided by the Developer. No wonder dog owners are finding it difficult to find convenient places to walk their dogs. If there were more dog parks, people wouldn't be using the Mail Stations.

Before you throw rotten tomatoes at me, we drive our dogs daily to a private dog park, which is not golf cart accessible, and we pay to use it. :throwtomatoes: However, not everyone is willing to do that, and the Mail Stations are close and convenient. In my humble opinion, The Villages definitely needs more dog parks!!

[quirky3]

Barefoot, I can see where you're "coming from", but there are two sides to every story. I own indoor cats, and I would not expect other residents to pay for their kitty litter or play areas/toys. I love dogs for sure. But TV is set up fairly so that only golfers pay extra for golf, only fitness people pay extra for that, and if TV dog parks were run that way, I would be fine with it. If they want all residents to pay for extra new dog parks and the related maintenance, it doesn't seem fair to me compared with the way the other amenities are charged.

[shcisamax]

The amenity fee covers different things that many people never use. It would seem natural if dogs are a part of TV to provide a place for the dogs to go. Would make a lot of people happy...those that have and those that have not.

[Barefoot]

Barefoot, I can see where you're "coming from", but there are two sides to every story. But TV is set up fairly so that only golfers pay extra for golf, only fitness people pay extra for that, and if TV dog parks were run that way, I would be fine with it. If they want all residents to pay for extra new dog parks and the related maintenance, it doesn't seem fair to me compared with the way the other amenities are charged.

I see your point Quirky. But the Amenity fee we all pay monthly pays for a selection of many things that residents selectively use. I don't golf or play pickleball or use the pools or take zumba or play pool. But I have no problem that Amenity fees provide these options for other residents' pleasure.
Since dog walking seems to be a hugely contentious issue, it seems that more TV dog parks would make both dog lovers and dog haters happy.

[njbchbum]

I see your point Quirky. But the Amenity fee we all pay monthly pays for a selection of many things that residents selectively use. I don't golf or play pickleball or use the pools or take zumba or play pool. But I have no problem that Amenity fees provide these options for other residents' pleasure.
Since dog walking seems to be a hugely contentious issue, it seems that more TV dog parks would make both dog lovers and dog haters happy.

even if the villages had more dog parks - how would we train the dog owners to take their dogs there?

[pooh]

even if the villages had more dog parks - how would we train the dog owners to take their dogs there?
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::clap2:

[gomoho]

even if the villages had more dog parks - how would we train the dog owners to take their dogs there?

That's a no-brainer. If they build it we will come. The current parks are not sufficient. The one south of 466 is way too small to even be called a dog park. A large park with some shade would have us lining up to get it. A dog park is one of the MOST social places I have ever been and people love to bring their dogs.:doggie:

[Taltarzac725]

Some dogs are poorly socialized and do not get along with other pooches at all. I run into these frequently when walking my dog around Lynnhaven. Could be other reasons why some dog owners never bring their pets to the local dog parks.

[Bogie Shooter]

Sounds like Pennecamp needs a dog park.

Lots of Lynnhaven dog owners walk their pooches near the Lynnhaven pool and there are no dead spots from where dogs pee there. Most of the people walking the dogs at the Lynnhaven pool also clean up after their pets. Some even clean up poop from other dogs if they have extra bags. I have done this myself. I do think trash belongs in a trash bin. There are trash bins at the postal areas so people should be able to put their dog poop in these receptacles unless they make them only for recycling. Garbage smells. You do not have to stand near garbage cans.

I do not buy the slippery slope argument when it comes to dog poop and pee. Most of the people in the Villages look out for other people and do not seem to mind dealing with life's realities when it comes to having neighbors who have pets.

Poop and pee from dogs is a serious problem in some cities like San Francisco and New York City where there is often very little in terms of a sense of community. I just do not see those kinds of attitudes so much in the Villages.

No poop!

[Taltarzac725]

No poop!

You'd probably find dog poop in the trash cans of many other municipalities and other entities around the country.

Still do not understand the need to dictate others enjoyment of the Villages by banning dog feces from postal center trash cans. That probably results in lazier people leaving it where it lies so to speak so they do not have to stink up their garage and/or automobile interior which they would smell a great deal more often than on a very quick trip to the postal center. An enclosed garage in the hot summer can get quite rancid from the poop in residents' trash. My understanding is that the postal station trash cans are emptied every night. Most of the people I see at Lynnhaven Postal Center are there for less than 2 minutes and then gone.

Sounds a lot better than the stink in a hot garage which could last for 4 days or so; in between garbage pick-ups.

[Bogie Shooter]

You'd probably find dog poop in the trash cans of many other municipalities and other entities around the country.

Still do not understand the need to dictate others enjoyment of the Villages by banning dog feces from postal center trash cans. That probably results in lazier people leaving it where it lies so to speak so they do not have to stink up their garage and/or automobile interior which they would smell a great deal more often than on a very quick trip to the postal center. An enclosed garage in the hot summer can get quite rancid from the poop in residents' trash. My understanding is that the postal station trash cans are emptied every night. Most of the people I see at Lynnhaven Postal Center are there for less than 2 minutes and then gone.

Sounds a lot better than the stink in a hot garage which could last for 4 days or so; in between garbage pick-ups.

I don't live in other municipalities, I live in TV........no poop in trash cans!

[Cisco Kid]

Been reading a lot of posts about TV.
I walk about 3 - 5 miles a day with my dogs.
I do pickup, But I don't carry a sponge for pee.
If I make the move will I safe ?
Or will a mob chase this Yankee out of the hood.
What is the most dog friendly place to buy.
5pd LuLu Maltipoo
12pd Cloie Bichion
Not a lot of pee
:doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie::doggie::

[graciegirl]

If we had a dog park, say Mr. Morse built us one or twelve. Then there would be those who would not like to live next to them because of the barking and the pooping.

There is no way the developer could win on this one. I bet this has been discussed a zillion times by the family. Can't you just see them talking about this over Thanksgiving dinner? ;)

[Barefoot]

If we had a dog park, say Mr. Morse built us one or twelve. Then there would be those who would not like to live next to them because of the barking and the pooping. There is no way the developer could win on this one.

GG, I usually agree with you, but not this time. I think more dog parks would be a big win for the Developer. It would keep dogs away from the Postal Stations, obviously a hot button for a lot of people.

Speaking of noise, a lot of residents don't appreciate the noise from early pickleball players. It doesn't bother me, but I've heard neighbors complain. I agree that dog parks wouldn't work in existing residential areas. The parks would have to be built closer to commercial or industrial areas. For instance, the newest dog park in Bonita is beside the Firehall.

The Villages did manage to build three dog parks, so presumably they could build more. I haven't heard any complaints from residents about the existing dog parks (other than they are very small). However it's just wishful thinking on my part. I hate to read all the negative posts that are critical about people walking their dogs. I don't have a horse in this race .. we quite happily make the daily trek to a huge private dog park, and we're happy to pay to take our dogs there.

[gomoho]

I will be interested to see who comments on the most pet friendly place to live. I live in Hadley off Ambrosia and have 2 dogs of my own. When we walk in the morning we run into quite a few dogs being walked. To this point I have not been shot at, yelled at or threatened in anyway. BUT my dogs aren't in anyone's yard so I can't say if we are dog friendly or not. Just can tell you we have a lot of dogs walking around here. I think you might be better of asking the question "what is the least dog friendly village to live in"?
Don't let the dog haters deter your move - I had the same hesitation after reading these threads 'cause I have never lived anywhere that this was such a hot topic. But we went ahead with "living the dream" and so far it's worked out with my fur kids. Good luck to you and your decision. P.S. Only been here 3 months so my experience is limited.

[Bonnevie]

wow, this is a hot topic. I'm hoping if I buy a CYV there will be other dog people around. I always clean up after my dogs. If dog parks are built, people will use them. have one near where I live now and everyone knows each other and it's a nice social time. I did go to the small park next to the firestation. met some nice people there but it doesn't compare to what I have now. glad to hear there's a really nice one nearby.

[Mikeod]

Don't let the dog haters deter your move -. .
I am always dismayed when I read that those that don't want someone's pet doing their "thing" on their property being classed as dog haters. I, and I think most others, don't hate dogs. I just don't think your dog has a right to use my lawn or shrubs as a toilet, whether there is damage or not. If I want the property I paid for to be free of dog pee or poop, that is my decision, not someone else's. You may think your dog is doing no harm, and that may be true. But the next dog, and the ones after that, who sniff the first "mark" have to mark also, and so on, and so on.

My dog never was allowed on anyone's property, even to sniff, because I couldn't be sure she would decide to leave a calling card or not.

With regards to more dog parks, I doubt it would have any great effect on this. Those that allow their pets to use the postal stations or neighbors lawns would probably think transporting the dog to a dog park to be inconvenient, and still use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

[gomoho]

I only mentioned dog haters because of people who so frequently say keep your dog in your yard. But guess what that is not healthy for me or the dog. They say if you are overweight you are not walking your dog enough. Maybe people are forgiving when a dog who has done his business where he is supposed to makes a mistake and has to relieve himself again. But for heaven's sake there is much vitriol thrown about when it come to these animals whose name backwards just happens to spell GOD!

[ariel]

I take my little guy in my yard first to get him to go before his walk. But sometimes he has to go again on the walk and it usually happens in the street. I always pick up wherever he does it. Sometimes he lifts his leg and nothing comes out - it's just a ritual for him when he "reads the pee mail". I have to admit that sometimes he has gone on the edge of someone else's property both in TV and here in our NC neighborhood. I've been very lucky to have had neighbors who were forgiving and I don't mind if their pooches occasionally go in my yard as long as they pick up.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am always dismayed when I read that those that don't want someone's pet doing their "thing" on their property being classed as dog haters. I, and I think most others, don't hate dogs. I just don't think your dog has a right to use my lawn or shrubs as a toilet, whether there is damage or not. If I want the property I paid for to be free of dog pee or poop, that is my decision, not someone else's. You may think your dog is doing no harm, and that may be true. But the next dog, and the ones after that, who sniff the first "mark" have to mark also, and so on, and so on.

My dog never was allowed on anyone's property, even to sniff, because I couldn't be sure she would decide to leave a calling card or not.

With regards to more dog parks, I doubt it would have any great effect on this. Those that allow their pets to use the postal stations or neighbors lawns would probably think transporting the dog to a dog park to be inconvenient, and still use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

:agree:

[Roaddog53]

I am always dismayed when I read that those that don't want someone's pet doing their "thing" on their property being classed as dog haters. I, and I think most others, don't hate dogs. I just don't think your dog has a right to use my lawn or shrubs as a toilet, whether there is damage or not. If I want the property I paid for to be free of dog pee or poop, that is my decision, not someone else's. You may think your dog is doing no harm, and that may be true. But the next dog, and the ones after that, who sniff the first "mark" have to mark also, and so on, and so on.

My dog never was allowed on anyone's property, even to sniff, because I couldn't be sure she would decide to leave a calling card or not.

With regards to more dog parks, I doubt it would have any great effect on this. Those that allow their pets to use the postal stations or neighbors lawns would probably think transporting the dog to a dog park to be inconvenient, and still use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

:bigbow::mademyday: THANK YOU,,,!

[KeepingItReal]

I am always dismayed when I read that those that don't want someone's pet doing their "thing" on their property being classed as dog haters. I, and I think most others, don't hate dogs. I just don't think your dog has a right to use my lawn or shrubs as a toilet, whether there is damage or not. If I want the property I paid for to be free of dog pee or poop, that is my decision, not someone else's. You may think your dog is doing no harm, and that may be true. But the next dog, and the ones after that, who sniff the first "mark" have to mark also, and so on, and so on.

My dog never was allowed on anyone's property, even to sniff, because I couldn't be sure she would decide to leave a calling card or not.

With regards to more dog parks, I doubt it would have any great effect on this. Those that allow their pets to use the postal stations or neighbors lawns would probably think transporting the dog to a dog park to be inconvenient, and still use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

Excellent post! :bigbow:

[Barefoot]

With regards to more dog parks, I doubt it would have any great effect on this. Those that allow their pets to use the postal stations or neighbors lawns would probably think transporting the dog to a dog park to be inconvenient, and still use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

The Villages allows two dogs per household. Dogs need more exercise than walking in circles in the back yard. I'd like to think that that people would go to dog parks if they were handy in The Villages, and not use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

My point of view is supported by the fact that the private dog park on CR 101 has thousands of members that pay for the pleasure of using the park. It makes me believe that most owners are responsible, and that we should be optimistically searching for credible options for dog walkers.

Or we can just keep complaining. After 90 posts on this thread, and umteen threads on the topics of dogs, why don't we try to find some solutions? :confused:

[debzaranti]

Thank you Blue Dog and Keeping it Real!!! I agree w/you both 100%. When we had a dog (here in TV) we had an invisible fence and he used OUR yard ONLY. As a result we had no grass in the back where he "went". We would not have dreamed of allowing our dog to relieve himself on anyone's yard because we know the damage it can do.

What really irks me is when I'm out in our front yard working on the landscaping or mowing and a "neighbor" walks their dog and allows it to urinate on our grass or landscape plantings WHILE I'M WATCHING. Talk about brazen and RUDE! Sorry...this is one of my biggest gripes.

[Taltarzac725]

The Villages allows two dogs per household. Dogs need more exercise than walking in circles in the back yard. I'd like to think that that people would go to dog parks if they were handy in The Villages, and not use the postal stations and neighborhood landscaping.

My point of view is supported by the fact that the private dog park on CR 101 has thousands of members that pay for the pleasure of using the park. It makes me believe that most owners are responsible, and that we should be optimistically searching for credible options for dog walkers.

Or we can just keep complaining. After 90 posts on this thread, and umteen threads on the topics of dogs, why don't we try to find some solutions? :confused:

Good post, barefoot.

The people who are so adamant about dogs not peeing on their lawns would probably be better suited to a community that allowed fences on the front yards.

My dog took off a few evening ago chasing one of the three or four feral cats we have in out immediate neighborhood. We also have a family of rabbits, ducks that hatch their young in the neighbors bushes each year, and a family of opossum. Have not seen the opossum for a good time.

Unless my dog is always on the leash in our background I cannot control him from not chasing the various critters.

I try to keep him on the leash more often because of all the local wildlife.

This local wildlife also pees and poops in various lawns including our own.

[Mikeod]

Good post, barefoot.

The people who are so adamant about dogs not peeing on their lawns would probably be better suited to a community that allowed fences on the front yards.

My dog took off a few evening ago chasing one of the three or four feral cats we have in out immediate neighborhood. We also have a family of rabbits, ducks that hatch their young in the neighbors bushes each year, and a family of opossum. Have not seen the opossum for a good time.

Unless my dog is always on the leash in our background I cannot control him from not chasing the various critters.

I try to keep him on the leash more often because of all the local wildlife.

This local wildlife also pees and poops in various lawns including our own.
Are we now down to either tolerate dogs on your lawn or move? Really?

Sure the dog park has many subscribers. The vast majority of dog owners are responsible. It's those who don't respect others' property that cause these threads to appear.

I cannot control the wildlife around here, but they are not required by law to be on a leash and under owner's control when outside their property. And I understand that dogs will chase wildlife. But this topic is about domestic pets being allowed by their human owner to enter private property and urinating/defecating on that property without permission. To me, it's the height of chutzpah to assume your dog can use my property as a toilet and I should accept that or leave TV. :sigh:

[Taltarzac725]

Are we now down to either tolerate dogs on your lawn or move? Really?

Sure the dog park has many subscribers. The vast majority of dog owners are responsible. It's those who don't respect others' property that cause these threads to appear.

I cannot control the wildlife around here, but they are not required by law to be on a leash and under owner's control when outside their property. And I understand that dogs will chase wildlife. But this topic is about domestic pets being allowed by their human owner to enter private property and urinating/defecating on that property without permission. To me, it's the height of chutzpah to assume your dog can use my property as a toilet and I should accept that or leave TV. :sigh:

You cannot really control dogs peeing and pooping on your lawn either. Unless you want to bring police and lawyers into this mess and I sincerely doubt that the developers would want this kind of publicity for the Villages.

There are bad neighbors everywhere.

Maybe, try explaining to those people you see who let their dogs pee or poop or YOUR lawn the problem you have with it.

You certainly are not going to convince people to not allow their dogs to take walks simply by postings hundreds if not thousands of complaints about dog poop and pee on TOTV.

[Cisco Kid]

This is a sad thread.
It does not fix with all I hear about TV

[bluedog103]

You cannot really control dogs peeing and pooping on your lawn either. Unless you want to bring police and lawyers into this mess and I sincerely doubt that the developers would want this kind of publicity for the Villages.

There are bad neighbors everywhere.

Maybe, try explaining to those people you see who let their dogs pee or poop or YOUR lawn the problem you have with it.

You certainly are not going to convince people to not allow their dogs to take walks simply by postings hundreds if not thousands of complaints about dog poop and pee on TOTV.

I have an idea Taltarzac for you and others who see no problem with your front lawn becoming a doggie rest area. Why don't you post your addresses so we can all take our dogs to your lawns. You won't mind will you? Maybe you can leave a few bags out by the street so that those who forget may pick up their doggie leavings. I realize signs aren't permitted outside in TV so maybe a discreet notice in your front window letting your neighbors know that your lawn is a designated doggie area would be helpful as well.

[Barefoot]

Are we now down to either tolerate dogs on your lawn or move? To me, it's the height of chutzpah to assume your dog can use my property as a toilet and I should accept that or leave TV.

Oh goodness, I don't think anyone has suggested that you move! Perhaps I missed that post. I also missed the posts where members said they should be able to use your property as a toilet.

Come on gentle readers. You know that most people in TV with dogs are friendly, responsible and caring people. I think you're talking about a tiny fraction of homeowners here. And it's probably the same people that let their ten year old grand kids race their golf carts. A few dog owners are selfish and uncaring. Most are kind and conscientious.

The answer is more dog parks. But I'm leaving the pulpit now because the church is empty.

[Taltarzac725]

I have an idea Taltarzac for you and others who see no problem with your front lawn becoming a doggie rest area. Why don't you post your addresses so we can all take our dogs to your lawns. You won't mind will you? Maybe you can leave a few bags out by the street so that those who forget may pick up their doggie leavings. I realize signs aren't permitted outside in TV so maybe a discreet notice in your front window letting your neighbors know that your lawn is a designated doggie area would be helpful as well.

Dogs being walked pee and poop on our front yard every once in a while. I do not see it as being much of a problem as there has been no damage done to the lawn. If I see someone doing damage to the lawn by whatever, I would go out and talk to THEM. Not complain incessantly on TOTV about it.

I usually take my dog to the Doggie Doo Run Run local dog park to do his business. He goes other places at other times.

You people sure are passionate about poop.

[ilovetv]

Regarding:

I am always dismayed when I read that those that don't want someone's pet doing their "thing" on their property being classed as dog haters. I, and I think most others, don't hate dogs. I just don't think your dog has a right to use my lawn or shrubs as a toilet, whether there is damage or not. If I want the property I paid for to be free of dog pee or poop, that is my decision, not someone else's.

Great post! This society's growing disrespect for other people's property, and ownership of it, is permeating everything.

Worse yet, kids and grandchildren see this attitude and adopt it as their own, and this rudeness becomes the norm.

The next time you see an obnoxious, undisciplined little kid in the store grabbing things off the shelf and yelling "MINE"....."It's MINE!"......think of "adults" walking their dog and using your yard as a toilet saying "Mine! Mine!"

Nobody is entitled to somebody else's property to use as a dog toilet!!!

[Taltarzac725]

Regarding:



Great post! This society's growing disrespect for other people's property, and ownership of it, is permeating everything.

Worse yet, kids and grandchildren see this attitude and adopt it as their own, and this rudeness becomes the norm.

The next time you see an obnoxious, undisciplined little kid in the store grabbing things off the shelf and yelling "MINE"....."It's MINE!"......think of "adults" walking their dog and using your yard as a toilet saying "Mine! Mine!"

Nobody is entitled to somebody else's property to use as a dog toilet!!!


Growing disrespect for private property? I wonder what the streets of Tombstone looked like in 1881 when the Clantons were battling the Earps? I will bet that walk had various poop in the street. Especially horse poop. Lots of dog poop too.

The point is that the Villages has very few fences. You just cannot control a dog on a walk at all times. It is just not possible.

[Barefoot]

The point is that the Villages has very few fences. You just cannot control a dog on a walk at all times. It is just not possible.

More dog parks, she said in a whisper. But no-one was listening.

[Mikeod]

The point is that the Villages has very few fences. You just cannot control a dog on a walk at all times. It is just not possible.
Tal, are you saying that when walking a dog on a leash, it is not always possible to keep the dog under control and off someone's lawn? To me, for that to be true, it is either a dog that is too strong for the owner, or an owner that is not paying attention or doesn't care. I guess I just don't understand the reasoning that it is fine to allow pets to wander on anyone's property and they shouldn't have any say in it.

[quirky3]

Tal, are you saying that when walking a dog on a leash, it is not always possible to keep the dog under control and off someone's lawn? To me, for that to be true, it is either a dog that is too strong for the owner, or an owner that is not paying attention or doesn't care. I guess I just don't understand the reasoning that it is fine to allow pets to wander on anyone's property and they shouldn't have any say in it.

:agree:

[beartrack]

More dog parks, she said in a whisper. But no-one was listening.

You know folks the administrators were smart enough to take the political site off for obvious reasons. I think this silly dog thing meets the same criteria. Please no more dog poop threads. Yikes.

I have a dog, she is my reponsibility period. We have many hours of fun together, she only uses my property to do her business. Sorry but, I do not even have an electric fence, she doesn't even need a leash. Other folks and their dogs stop and play with her she stays (except her tail, that keeps going) If a neighbors dog has an accident, so what, they clean it and all is well. By the way, you will not find one single yellow spot on my lawn anywhere. You know why my dog is so well behaved ? Because she has responsible owners that love her enough to teach her how to behave. It is not hard to do, it's simply repetetive.

As far as dog parks are concerned. Note the name "Dog Park" not "Dog Toilet" I was always under the impression that when a dog makes in a dog park it is called an accident. I think that the name "Dog Park" should be changed to "People Park" because people go there to socialize, It is my experience that the dogs could care less.

Well thats my story, and I'm sticking to it. No hate mail "PLEASE"

[Cisco Kid]

As someone looking into TV
I would like to know about other TV peeves like this.
All info helps
Loud golf carts?
I am trying to read all I can
Thanks to you all that post.

[justjim]

More dog parks, she said in a whisper. But no-one was listening.

:clap2: To start with, the Developer allowed dogs in ALL the villages and therefore IMHO should provide areas for more dog parks. Just by casual observation you can see there are not near enough dog parks in TV. Maybe in hindsight there should have been a CDD with no pets covenants for those who don't care to be bothered by dogs! Ooops too late now. Most dog owners are very good about respecting others property and you rarely, if ever, see a dog running loose in TV. IMHO we can all live quite "nicely" with that! Life is too short to sweat the small stuff.

[ilovetv]

As someone looking into TV
I would like to know about other TV peeves like this.
All info helps
Loud golf carts?
I am trying to read all I can
Thanks to you all that post.

As you are looking into TV, please take into account that only a tiny fraction of TV residents read this site. When I occasionally mention something I read on TOTV to people around the neighborhood or that I meet in the community, 90% of them have never heard of TOTV. The complaints here get very concentrated amongst just a few who comment.

It would be a mistake based on distortion to decide upon TV as a future home, based on this board. The sampling of people complaining is tiny.

[shcisamax]

If a person was thinking about moving to TV because it is " the friendliest hometown", they sure wouldn't think that if they read this ....and many other threads where the villagers are verbally bashing each other. Yikes. Thankfully the majority of TVers do not go on this forum. They are busy enjoying their lives rather than moaning about minutae online. I look at this thread and think how sad it is that even though people do not agree they have made it into a bigger and defining issue of people's character. Please stop. Take a breath. Smell the roses. There really is more to life than if a dog pees or poos on your yard. Not saying that it is right but it really isn't enough to become get beligerent over. Time to close this thread.

[Joaniesmom]

:agree:If a person was thinking about moving to TV because it is " the friendliest hometown", they sure wouldn't think that if they read this ....and many other threads where the villagers are verbally bashing each other. Yikes. Thankfully the majority of TVers do not go on this forum. They are busy enjoying their lives rather than moaning about minutae online. I look at this thread and think how sad it is that even though people do not agree they have made it into a bigger and defining issue of people's character. Please stop. Take a breath. Smell the roses. There really is more to life than if a dog pees or poos on your yard. Not saying that it is right but it really isn't enough to become get beligerent over. Time to close this thread.

:clap2::clap2::agree::agree::agree::clap2::clap2:

[Bogie Shooter]

Dog poop threads should be banned!:spoken:

[gomoho]

As the late Rodney King said "why can't we just all get along"!!!

[KeepingItReal]

Regarding:



Great post! This society's growing disrespect for other people's property, and ownership of it, is permeating everything.

Worse yet, kids and grandchildren see this attitude and adopt it as their own, and this rudeness becomes the norm.

The next time you see an obnoxious, undisciplined little kid in the store grabbing things off the shelf and yelling "MINE"....."It's MINE!"......think of "adults" walking their dog and using your yard as a toilet saying "Mine! Mine!"

Nobody is entitled to somebody else's property to use as a dog toilet!!!

Agreed with both! :posting:

[Moderator]

The discussion has turned personal and the original topic is pretty well talked out.

Closing this thread.