Are there Preppers in the Villages?

[dwebb]

Just wondering if there are people in the Villages who are in the Prepper movement and I don't mean the TV show!

I know, we live in a nice bouble here in The Villages but with the events going on all over the world I have taken a real interest in being prepared for some kind of economic event within next year. If you think gas is expensive now just wait until Iran is attacked.

[Bogie Shooter]

Just wondering if there are people in the Villages who are in the Prepper movement and I don't mean the TV show!

I know, we live in a nice bouble here in The Villages but with the events going on all over the world I have taken a real interest in being prepared for some kind of economic event within next year. If you think gas is expensive now just wait until Iran is attacked.

Oh no, the sky is falling....the sky is falling.

[Golfingnut]

We can only pray that there are not. Those folks are beyond paranoid. Very Sad to live that way.

:ohdear::eek:

[graciegirl]

I don't have a clue what preppers are.

Do they like dogs? I like dogs. I suspect not.;)

[2BNTV]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;555343]I don't have a clue what preppers are.


I googled preppers: Here you go Gracie:

The Prepper Movement: Why Are Millions Of Preppers Feverishly Preparing For The End Of The World As We Know It? (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-prepper-movement-why-are-millions-of-preppers-feverishly-preparing-for-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it)

[Wayne_TN]

dwebb - I try to prepare for bad events as i think most reasonable folks do - hope you find some like-minded individuals to correspond with.

Bogie - Do you need a hug? The guy asks a reasonable question and you go off on him. Shame on you.

[John_W]

I only found out yesterday what they are when the news showed the guy in Orlando that stole a trailer and buried it in his backyard. It was suppose to be his doomsday bunker, after they dug it out it looked like he didn't calculate what the weight of the dirt would do to the trailer. My favorite part was when he was being lead into jail the TV news girl asked him, 'why didn't you just buy the trailer'.

[jblum315]

If "prepping" involves hoarding basic supplies and owning guns I want no part of it.
Besides which, I don't want to be alive if most people are dead.

[graciegirl]

If "prepping" involves hoarding basic supplies and owning guns I want no part of it.
Besides which, I don't want to be alive if most people are dead.

I have to agree.

[jannd228]

If "prepping" involves hoarding basic supplies and owning guns I want no part of it.
Besides which, I don't want to be alive if most people are dead.

agree

[Golfingnut]

If "prepping" involves hoarding basic supplies and owning guns I want no part of it.
Besides which, I don't want to be alive if most people are dead.

I am going with you Jblum. Living like an animal in fear is not living at all. Like I said earlier, very sad. I feel so sorry for people that live as though everything is a conspiracy out to get you.

[billethkid]

so those of us that already own the guns but just need to stock up on food are OK....eh?

btk

[justjim]

agree

I don't plan to hoard anything but we usually have a pretty full pantry. I do have a gun for "sport" and protection if necessary. During my lifetime, we have gone through several periods of time when folks thought the "world as we know it was coming to an end." Its still here----for better or worse! :read:

[createquilts]

Remember Katrina, when within two days people were on roofs with signs no food, no diapers, send help? Perhaps we would all be well advised to be prepared for whatever disaster is likely to impact us- bad storms or a disruption in the supply lines of food in this area. Tornados, earthquakes and hurricanes can wreak havoc and being prepared for whatever is likely to happen in your area is sensible. Such as having a week of water and food, a way to heat food, getting messages out.

[graciegirl]

Remember Katrina, when within two days people were on roofs with signs no food, no diapers, send help? Perhaps we would all be well advised to be prepared for whatever disaster is likely to impact us- bad storms or a disruption in the supply lines of food in this area. Tornados, earthquakes and hurricanes can wreak havoc and being prepared for whatever is likely to happen in your area is sensible. Such as having a week of water and food, a way to heat food, getting messages out.

THAt would be no change from the way I always live. It isn't because I am preparing for a disaster. I am preparing for drop in company.

[raynitsche]

You grill prepper & onions and put it of your grilled sausage.
Very testy.

[uujudy]

THAt would be no change from the way I always live. It isn't because I am preparing for a disaster. I am preparing for drop in company.

Hahaha!
And I thought a prepper was somebody who went to prep school...

[Skybo]

Remember Katrina, when within two days people were on roofs with signs no food, no diapers, send help? Perhaps we would all be well advised to be prepared for whatever disaster is likely to impact us- bad storms or a disruption in the supply lines of food in this area. Tornados, earthquakes and hurricanes can wreak havoc and being prepared for whatever is likely to happen in your area is sensible. Such as having a week of water and food, a way to heat food, getting messages out.

I understand what you are saying, but in the Katrina example you gave ... any stock-piled food they may have had was under water, as were the buses that could have transported them to safety. The mistake there was not evacuating. I've lived through more hurricanes than I can count. You prepare as well as you can. You make a choice, based on predictions, whether you should stock-pile food and water, or whether you get out of town. It's a really difficult choice. And by the time you have enough information to convince you that you need to leave...it's often too late.

But I don't think this thread is about natural disasters. I think it's about preparing for something much worse.

[Jim 9922]

No basements in THe Villages. Where are they going to hide??:shrug:

[gomoho]

I am going with you Jblum. Living like an animal in fear is not living at all. Like I said earlier, very sad. I feel so sorry for people that live as though everything is a conspiracy out to get you.

I am not so sure it is appropriate to refer to these folks as "living like an animal in fear", maybe we could just respect their view of the world as it is today. And I wonder if the worst came true if we wouldn't all be pounding on their doors for food and water.

[CarolSells]

I am not so sure it is appropriate to refer to these folks as "living like an animal in fear", maybe we could just respect their view of the world as it is today. And I wonder if the worst came true if we wouldn't all be pounding on their doors for food and water.

Do you guys remember the Twilight Zone episode where the man was building a bomb shelter in his back yard and stocking it with supplies? (In the fifties when the world was coming to an end.) His neighbors all made fun of him and called him a lunatic. When the disaster actually hit (bomb?) crowds of people rushed to his shelter and actually caved the door in trying to get down into safety. Of course, they ruined the shelter and no one had a safe place including the man and his family.

:mad: :cold:

[createquilts]

I understand what you are saying, but in the Katrina example you gave ... any stock-piled food they may have had was under water, as were the buses that could have transported them to safety. The mistake there was not evacuating. I've lived through more hurricanes than I can count. You prepare as well as you can. You make a choice, based on predictions, whether you should stock-pile food and water, or whether you get out of town. It's a really difficult choice. And by the time you have enough information to convince you that you need to leave...it's often too late.

But I don't think this thread is about natural disasters. I think it's about preparing for something much worse.

I think that you are absolutely correct, there were a lot of mistakes made in katrina on all sides. That being said I don't think I could prepare for teotwawki (the end of the world as we know it) because I don't have the space, time or money. But after a microburst came through our area in NY and we had to sit in the car to listen to the radio and it took us several hours to figure out how to make a pot of coffee, we have at least the basics supplies.

I imagine there are some people who have bug out locations, stored food and water far in excess of what normal disaster preparations are. I imagine we haven't heard from any of them because you might as well put a sign on your lawn if there is an emergency- even a short one.

But what I really would hope is that people band together, share what they have and work out some systems to change the way some things are done. Maybe more reliance on local farmers through farmers markets rather than shopping for food in plastic packages shipped from who knows where? Walking or biking to conserve gas?

[CaptJohn]

Do you guys remember the Twilight Zone episode where the man was building a bomb shelter in his back yard and stocking it with supplies? (In the fifties when the world was coming to an end.) His neighbors all made fun of him and called him a lunatic. When the disaster actually hit (bomb?) crowds of people rushed to his shelter and actually caved the door in trying to get down into safety. Of course, they ruined the shelter and no one had a safe place including the man and his family.

:mad: :cold:

That reminds me. I bought a house one time that had an underground fallout shelter in the back yard (remember those from the 60's missle crisis?). It wasn't the reason I bought the house but just happened to be there from a previous owner. It was full of roaches and my wife at the time would never go near it until a direct hit from Hurricane Frederic (33 years ago last night) was due at night and we cleaned it out and stayed in it (her choice), not hearing any wind or noise from the outside. It had an air pump for fresh air. We were in walkie talkie contact with our neighbors who also had one but chose to stay above ground to their regret. When we came out the next morning there were 30 trees down in our yard!
Much like a tornado shelter.

[Bogie Shooter]

dwebb - I try to prepare for bad events as i think most reasonable folks do - hope you find some like-minded individuals to correspond with.

Bogie - Do you need a hug? The guy asks a reasonable question and you go off on him. Shame on you.

Silly statements will get silly responses.

[borjo]

You know, real preppers do not want people to know they are a prepper so no one will come to their home to rob it of food, supplies, etc.

[wendyquat]

You know, real preppers do not want people to know they are a prepper so no one will come to their home to rob it of food, supplies, etc.

I think THAT is where the gunsnd bullets come in!:crap2:

[uujudy]

You know, real preppers do not want people to know they are a prepper so no one will come to their home to rob it of food, supplies, etc.

Oh for heaven's sake. Everybody in Utah has food storage in the basement. Seven years is the recommended amount, but most folks only have 3 years worth. Our basement had wonderful shelves built in for food storage. I filled them up with picture frames & knitting supplies! lol

[John_W]

In 1962 in St. Petersburg when I was 12 one of my friend's father built a bomb shelter in his back yard. It became our playhouse, hideout, whatever. My favorite memory was once we let some other kids go down and check it out and we dropped a cherry bomb down the air shaft.

[asianthree]

you can buy a food kit for a year from costco

[Ripcord13]

Just duck and cover and you'll be OK

[Vinny]

so those of us that already own the guns but just need to stock up on food are OK....eh?

btk

I always assumed that those with guns get their food from those without them. :throwtomatoes:

[raynitsche]

Those with guns can protect their family.

[BarryRX]

Just duck and cover and you'll be OK

Heehee.....or if that doesn't work, drop and roll!

[Golfingnut]

This is but one of the many many fears we live with today. Read some of the organized fears in this link:
List of conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories)

I am not sure who if anyone benefits from these delusions, but I am sure they are nothing but destructive to the way should be living. They go against the teachings of my faith and my love for my neighbors and all mankind. If these conspiratorial theorists would put half the energy given these doomsday scenarios toward helping those in fear we could all have a better existence on earth. I vote for not blessing your own little group and even stop with the building walls and bunkers around the US and start by saying GOD BLESS THE WORLD. I mean, it is 2012 and we still have folks talking like my CAVE vs your CAVE.

[CarolSells]

In 1962 in St. Petersburg when I was 12 one of my friend's father built a bomb shelter in his back yard. He worked for Florida Power and got hold of some discarded 2" thick steel shafts that were 4'x4'. He dug down quite a few feet and hooked together about 6 sections and poured cement all around and covered with dirt on top.

Essentially it became it became our playhouse, hideout, whatever. My favorite memory was once we let some other kids go down and check it out and we dropped a cherry bomb down the air shaft.


Cute story, John. That was back when kids were actually still allowed to have fun! Today you'd probably be surrounded by a SWAT team!

[dwebb]

Thank you for your replies.

I have received a few private messages from members that believe being prepared for the possibility of a national emergency makes sense. Now, if there are any other serious thinkers out there you can send a private message to me and avoid public criticism of us ants by the grasshoppers. Winter is coming!

[graciegirl]

I am a serious thinker. Most of us are over the hill looking down. Live now.
Dance now. Smile now. Hug now, Care now.

Don't worry. Be happy.

[kentucky blue]

That reminds me. I bought a house one time that had an underground fallout shelter in the back yard (remember those from the 60's missle crisis?). It wasn't the reason I bought the house but just happened to be there from a previous owner. It was full of roaches and my wife at the time would never go near it until a direct hit from Hurricane Frederic (33 years ago last night) was due at night and we cleaned it out and stayed in it (her choice), not hearing any wind or noise from the outside. It had an air pump for fresh air. We were in walkie talkie contact with our neighbors who also had one but chose to stay above ground to their regret. When we came out the next morning there were 30 trees down in our yard!
Much like a tornado shelter.


The home i have in Lexington has a huge "safe room" in the basement,built by the previous owner back in the early 60's,i've turned it into my wine cellar.If something catastrophic ever happens i will not know about it, or care,or have to worry about a hangover the next day.Speaking of worry and fear of the future,it's like a rocking chair,it gives you something to do,but it gets you nowhere.Why lose today by being fearful of tomorrow......live,laugh,and love.

[dsned]

I like preppers and think they might have something on the ball. They are young people with young families, so they have a lot to live for. And so what if they choose to spend their money on supplies? They would probably not agree with what you spend your money on.

[Golfingnut]

I like preppers and think they might have something on the ball. They are young people with young families, so they have a lot to live for. And so what if they choose to spend their money on supplies? They would probably not agree with what you spend your money on.

I don't think the issue is being prepared, but rather why they are being prepared. You can have natural and man made disasters, but the true preppers IN SOME CASES live afraid and in a paranoid state of mind. That is like being an extremist against your own mind and not allowing yourself to live a normal life. Being prepared is a good thing, but believing in some of the wild way out there conspiracy theories is not healthy.

[senior citizen]

I don't have a clue what preppers are.

Do they like dogs? I like dogs. I suspect not.;)

Gracie:
There was a popular show last winter that showed how various families all over our nation are preparing for possible upcoming catastrophes.
Not to be taken lightly, it is important to have supplies of bottled water, foods that are not perishable, reliable vehicles, and other common sense items such as a supply of first aid stuff, prescription meds for those who take or need them.......and so on.........

The die hard ones have actually built "bunkers" in various forms all across our country.

Other die hard ones are teaching their kids to eat insects, worms, etc. in case of food shortages.

Up here, we always have alternate heat sources in case of a blizzard or whatnot.......weather radios, woodpiles, etc. but these preppers each have a unique way of "getting ready" for possible diaster.
Ditto for stocking up on pantry items, things like toilet paper, paper towels, batteries, you name it...........things you would really need if , for some odd reason, supplies did NOT GET TO THE LOCAL SUPERMARKET.

It isn't a joke. Mother Nature could be the culprit....not alkaeda.

[senior citizen]

so those of us that already own the guns but just need to stock up on food are OK....eh?

btk


They should all come to Vermont and see how Vermonters stock up.
It isn't about everybody being dead.......it's about shortages.

Or, what if all the banks fail, and people can't get their funds out?

Everything is dependent on computers nowadays......if a major glitch happened, and all computers were down.........the supermarkets couldn't even tally up your supplies; you wouldn't pump gasoline, banks couldn't function..........and so on.

So, better to have something to fall back on. It isn't paranoia.

Yes, some of those preppers were beyond the norm. I would never live in a bunker.........for fear of radiation. I'd take my chances with that.

But I do need my bottled water and a full pantry or two....just in case.

Never say never...........esp. the way the world is going at the moment.
WE feel we are in a relatively very safe location, but you never know who could come over the border from Canada.

When we cross the border, they really and truly check out the big trucks and pull them over........the border guards know that people try to sneak in and Vermont is perceived as an easy border to cross.....way up in the Northeast Kingdom as they call it..........

We don't live in fear at all. Just have always been prepared.

[senior citizen]

They should all come to Vermont and see how Vermonters stock up.
It isn't about everybody being dead.......it's about shortages.

Or, what if all the banks fail, and people can't get their funds out?

Everything is dependent on computers nowadays......if a major glitch happened, and all computers were down.........the supermarkets couldn't even tally up your supplies; you wouldn't pump gasoline, banks couldn't function..........and so on.

So, better to have something to fall back on. It isn't paranoia.

Yes, some of those preppers were beyond the norm. I would never live in a bunker.........for fear of radiation. I'd take my chances with that.

But I do need my bottled water and a full pantry or two....just in case.

Never say never...........esp. the way the world is going at the moment.
WE feel we are in a relatively very safe location, but you never know who could come over the border from Canada.

When we cross the border, they really and truly check out the big trucks and pull them over........the border guards know that people try to sneak in and Vermont is perceived as an easy border to cross.....way up in the Northeast Kingdom as they call it..........

We don't live in fear at all. Just have always been prepared.

Forgot to add:
Generators in case the power goes out.
Alternate sources of "light".......
It's what we all do up here.........be prepared.

[senior citizen]

dwebb - I try to prepare for bad events as i think most reasonable folks do - hope you find some like-minded individuals to correspond with.

Bogie - Do you need a hug? The guy asks a reasonable question and you go off on him. Shame on you.

I agree with you . "Reasonable" people would prepare for any eventuality.

There was a time when paper money was worthless.

We know folks who collect gold coins and such; others have things to barter.

In New England I do attribute "stockpiling" to the harsh winters of old.

Latter Day Saints (Mormons) are also known for keeping large supplies of foodstuffs and rotating them.......my husband really admires how they stockpile.

In Florida I would definitely keep one of the walk in closets stocked with bottled water........as you all would need it.

Click on hyperlink below and keep scrolling down as it is a very long article on hyperinflation and what has transpired in the past in other countries; scroll down past the large blank space to read in its entirety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hyperinflation&printable=yes

[senior citizen]

Remember Katrina, when within two days people were on roofs with signs no food, no diapers, send help? Perhaps we would all be well advised to be prepared for whatever disaster is likely to impact us- bad storms or a disruption in the supply lines of food in this area. Tornados, earthquakes and hurricanes can wreak havoc and being prepared for whatever is likely to happen in your area is sensible. Such as having a week of water and food, a way to heat food, getting messages out.

I echo exactly what you state above. It doesn't have to be a world wide catastrophe........even a local one would be hard.

We had an October ice storm when everything in town just came to a halt.

The heavy ice on the foliage laden trees was just too much for them to bear and they were cracking and falling all over town and on the roads exiting town.

Since we had a Jeep four wheel drive, my husband towed several neighbors to where they wanted to go.......they couldn't get up the icy hills.......one guy was trying to meet his limo to the airport........

Meanwhile, my son's high school teacher called to have me call all the parents to cancel the study group for their SAT tests.......he was stranded on his dirt road and couldn't get to town to the high school........

Trees down, power lines down.........I was able to make a few calls at the most before we lost our power. People were actually killed when falling trees fell on them while they were just on their front porches.

This was OCTOBER.........not the dead of winter, but people didn't have hot showers, didn't have HEAT , couldn't cook.........the ones who were prepared like us.....managed fine. Others we helped.

Since we had a kitchen wood stove plus a fireplace in the living room plus two furnaces in the basement (an oil furnace and a wood furnace as an alternate source of heat) we were toasty warm.......

The woodstove was a small Jotul and had cooking burners on top; it was on a red brick hearth.......came in handy for cooking. We also have camp stoves to cook on if need be........in that other great room we had a Jenn Aire electric grill, but didn't do us any good as we had no electric.

My husband made hot cocoa, coffee and hot oatmeal and brought it around to those with children or the elderly neighbors who were close to us. These people didn't know what to do. We could also boil soup, etc.

Within a few days, our other neighbor who worked for the power company as a lineman was the most popular guy in our neighborhood when he came around and turned back on all of our electricity by climbing the poles...........this only after two days without.

I can't even imagine what those poor Katrina victims went through in the heat and flooding with no water, no food, no airconditioning, no diapers, no diabetes meds, etc...........better to be prepared.

To us it is intelligent to do so........we don't believe in putting our heads in the sand. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being prepared.

Now, going to the extremes like those on the preppers show.......again, I would not live in a bunker below the ground.

However, imagine if there was a really bad hurricane like Andrew was.
I still remember pics of those people standing in long lines for water and ice...........a couple whose roof blew off in Andrew bought our Vermont home.........she was traumatized for sure by that storm. Supermarkets would NOT BE FUNCTIONING.

[PaPaLarry]

Pass the "Salt & Prepper" please!!!!!!:bigbow::a040::pepper2::pepper2::peppe r2::pepper2::pepper2:

[Applepie]

Preppers aren't concerned about tornados, hurricanes,etc. They are preparing for the end of the world. On that reallity TV show they showed one prepper family that had stockpiled enough food and supplies to last 10 years and they still didn't feel safe. We all have extras for emergencies but preppers are extreme in their belief.

[graciegirl]

[QUOTE=senior citizen;556711]

Gracie:
There was a popular show last winter that showed how various families all over our nation are preparing for possible upcoming catastrophes.
Not to be taken lightly, it is important to have supplies of bottled water, foods that are not perishable, reliable vehicles, and other common sense items such as a supply of first aid stuff, prescription meds for those who take or need them.......and so on.........

The die hard ones have actually built "bunkers" in various forms all across our country.

Other die hard ones are teaching their kids to eat insects, worms, etc. in case of food shortages. end of quote" )




OH Senior...I had the same thought in mind when I taught my children to eat carrots, broccoli, spinach, kohrabi, green beans...aka anything on THEIR PLATE...

Thank God we have lived all this time and they are still eating that stuff...it makes ME feel better.

That is what MY parents made me do.

I bet those parents who are doing all that bug eating teaching stuff didn't work on the kids vegetables. I just BET...don't you?

We have to have all kinds of conspiracy theories to get us through.

I have found that ordinary life brings enough drama for most of us.:ohdear:

[Bogie Shooter]

Bill.....we need lots of :popcorn: here to get thru these loooong posts!

[senior citizen]

Preppers aren't concerned about tornados, hurricanes,etc. They are preparing for the end of the world. On that reallity TV show they showed one prepper family that had stockpiled enough food and supplies to last 10 years and they still didn't feel safe. We all have extras for emergencies but preppers are extreme in their belief.

Yes you are right.....they were the doomsday preppers.*
However, even modest preppers are around, at least where we are.

*One lady hid her food and stuff in the ceiling beams.
They were all quite inventive, to say the least.
We watched all the shows. Again, we would not go to that extreme.

However, in the real world of today, weather disasters have hit all states.
We had small mountain villages which were totally CUT OFF from the larger towns to the west down the mountain and to the east down the mountain. Now, if they had no "supplies" it would have been awful.

Eventually, they were getting out and about on all terrain vehicles via the forest trails.........it was a nightmare for those who lived in those flooded areas last summer. It would be very difficult to get to a grocery store or bank or whatnot.

As far as another poster mentioned guns, everyone has guns up here for hunting.........we are probably the lowest crime state in the nation....although even that is changing with desperate times and more home burglaries.

Some people "prep" in more simple ways such as everyone in the family having a large backpack filled with the necessities of life, in case they had to leave suddenly..........never say never, as sometimes , in more citified areas where there are highways surrounding the towns, trucks roll over and let out chemical spills......whole neighborhoods are evacuated....so good to grab one's backpack with the essentials, cash (cash is king after all).......and whatever one feels they would need "while away from home". Plus, snacks like raisins, nuts, energy bars/granola bars, energy drinks.......whatever one could fit into the backpack, first aid items.

Vermont was NOT expecting floods last August. I just bought six books with amazing photos of the towns that were impacted up and down our state. Bridges torn in half, roads washed away........no way to get from point "A" to point "B".

[senior citizen]

[QUOTE=senior citizen;556711]

Gracie:
There was a popular show last winter that showed how various families all over our nation are preparing for possible upcoming catastrophes.
Not to be taken lightly, it is important to have supplies of bottled water, foods that are not perishable, reliable vehicles, and other common sense items such as a supply of first aid stuff, prescription meds for those who take or need them.......and so on.........

The die hard ones have actually built "bunkers" in various forms all across our country.

Other die hard ones are teaching their kids to eat insects, worms, etc. in case of food shortages. end of quote" )




OH Senior...I had the same thought in mind when I taught my children to eat carrots, broccoli, spinach, kohrabi, green beans...aka anything on THEIR PLATE...

Thank God we have lived all this time and they are still eating that stuff...it makes ME feel better.

That is what MY parents made me do.

I bet those parents who are doing all that bug eating teaching stuff didn't work on the kids vegetables. I just BET...don't you?

We have to have all kinds of conspiracy theories to get us through.

I have found that ordinary life brings enough drama for most of us.:ohdear:


I wouldn't be raising nor harvesting insects and worms to consume, that's for sure............I was just saying what one of the families on the weekly show did to "prepare" for whatever they thought was coming.

My personal opinion, not to offend anyone, was that they were all beyond eccentric. But keeping water and other necessities on hand is smart.

Years ago, we thought we should get the largest RV and equip it, just in case our nice little town was in danger (this was after 911) and all the city people were flocking up here to get away from the city....but then I said, "Where would we get gasoline?" Eventually, the RV would run out of gas..........even if we got across the border and up to Quebec or the other way to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. So, thankfully no need.

We sleep very well at night. Sorry, I have no good wiggly insect recipe for you.

[senior citizen]

I don't think the issue is being prepared, but rather why they are being prepared. You can have natural and man made disasters, but the true preppers IN SOME CASES live afraid and in a paranoid state of mind. That is like being an extremist against your own mind and not allowing yourself to live a normal life. Being prepared is a good thing, but believing in some of the wild way out there conspiracy theories is not healthy.


You just said it in a nutshell.

Some of the men on the shows had drawn up plans about which door to use and which escape hatch, etc.......there were all variations of these preppers depicted. These are the ones I thought were eccentric.

But stocking up for inclement weather (which New England does get a lot of) or even if one came down with the flu and didn't feel like going shopping that particular week.........no harm in having a full pantry and plenty of water and first aid stuff.

No need to build bunkers and such.

However, anyone who has lived in New York City or elsewhere during the two major blackouts I remember.........when traffic lights were not working, elevators were not working, etc........would have been happy to have stockpiles of bottled water, infant formula, diapers, a full pantry, etc., candles, batteries, flashlights, alternate light sources and generators. Supermarket cashiers could not ring up the customer's orders. Nothing worked. A man's home is his castle and better yet if well prepared.

I often wonder how people in Florida would manage during the summer in the event of a prolonged power outage. No airconditioning. No refrigeration nor ways to preserve ice.
How do people in Florida prep?

[senior citizen]

Do you guys remember the Twilight Zone episode where the man was building a bomb shelter in his back yard and stocking it with supplies? (In the fifties when the world was coming to an end.) His neighbors all made fun of him and called him a lunatic. When the disaster actually hit (bomb?) crowds of people rushed to his shelter and actually caved the door in trying to get down into safety. Of course, they ruined the shelter and no one had a safe place including the man and his family.

:mad: :cold:

Yes, we do.

We also remember Public Television several years ago having modern day people "go back in time" and live totally in another era.

One English family had to live in a rowhouse with 1940's "rations" for food; the man of the house had to dig out and build his own bomb shelter in his meagre backyard.........it was mind opening.

Our parents all lived through the war years, whether in this country or overseas........and remembered the bomb shelters and rationing.

My husband remembers "duck and cover" under his school desk when the Soviets could have attacked.......his era was the 1950's. He went to Catholic elementary. I don't recall it at all in public school.

During the Cuban missile crisis in the 60's......those that had the bomb shelters from the '50's would have had a place to go......if needed.

God forbid we ever need anything like that.

Nowadays it would be from a nuclear winter.....which would last too long to even prep for.........unless our government went underground....but none of us could plan for that eventuality. No food would grow outdoors, etc.

[CaptJohn]

Nowadays it would be from a nuclear winter.....which would last too long to even prep for.........unless our government went underground....but none of us could plan for that eventuality. No food would grow outdoors, etc.

That makes the government the ultimate prepper. They already have a complete underground city system built for Congress and the White House as well as other operations.
We'll all be dead but the government will still live on! :laugh: Wonder where they think the taxes will come from?

[Madelaine Amee]

Nowadays it would be from a nuclear winter.....which would last too long to even prep for.........unless our government went underground....but none of us could plan for that eventuality. No food would grow outdoors, etc.

Oh my, you poor woman, to live day in and day out with such fear. There is so much in life to enjoy and you chose to fill your life in fear, what a dreadful waste of the one life you will have.

[kentucky blue]

That makes the government the ultimate prepper. They already have a complete underground city system built for Congress and the White House as well as other operations.
We'll all be dead but the government will still live on! :laugh: Wonder where they think the taxes will come from?

Always heard the only things to survive a nuclear catastrophe are twinkies,fruitcake,and cockroaches.So i guess your right, the politicians(cockroaches)would still be around.:thumbup:

[senior citizen]

Oh my, you poor woman, to live day in and day out with such fear. There is so much in life to enjoy and you chose to fill your life in fear, what a dreadful waste of the one life you will have.


First of all, I'm not a poor woman. Second of all, I certainly do not live in fear. We do enjoy our life. How would you know otherwise?

To comment on nuclear winter (God Forbid) does not mean one lives in fear.

Don't judge people.

[John_W]

The movie "On the Beach" was made in 1959, I forget when I saw it for the first time, probably in the 1970's. It stuck with me so much that in the 80's when I had a VCR I bought the VHS tape. It sometimes appears on the HDNET Movie channel and a few others at times.

It's about an American submarine crew that is docked in Australia when nuclear war breaks out and everyone in Europe and N. America are wiped out, they determine that a radioactive cloud will reach Australia and they have five months to live.

Fred Astaire plays a race car driver and in a big race everyone is crashing and going out of control because they know they will all die. The submarine crew decides to return to America because they rather die on U.S. soil, it has a very interesting ending.

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[travelguy]

this reminds me of junior high school, 1961, cuban missile crisis. we had drills where we had to get under our desks in order to protect us from a soviet nuclear attack. seriously now, this is just ridiculous. there is absolutely nothing that any of us can do to be 'prepared' for a doomsday scenario.

[kentucky blue]

this reminds me of junior high school, 1961, cuban missile crisis. we had drills where we had to get under our desks in order to protect us from a soviet nuclear attack. seriously now, this is just ridiculous. there is absolutely nothing that any of us can do to be 'prepared' for a doomsday scenario.

I tried to use that crisis to have the head cheerleader in my junior high to marry me and have my children,because life is short.Margie said if she told her parents what i said, my life would be even shorter.:)

[Bogie Shooter]

First of all, I'm not a poor woman. Second of all, I certainly do not live in fear. We do enjoy our life. How would you know otherwise?

To comment on nuclear winter (God Forbid) does not mean one lives in fear.

Don't judge people.

Some of your posts imply what Madelaine Amee was referring to..................

[CaptJohn]

I tried to use that crisis to have the head cheerleader in my junior high to marry me and have my children,because life is short.Margie said if she told her parents what i said, my life would be even shorter.:)

Nobody like a tattle tale anyway! :laugh: Good thing you moved on.
I chased a few cheerleaders myself. Lost cause but one finally decided to like me at the 40th reunion!

[senior citizen]

Some of your posts imply what Madelaine Amee was referring to..................

Sorry but she misunderstood then. Again, to comment on various subjects such as the "Preppers" , which by the way, I thought were wasting their time as well.....going to the extremes that they did.........

.......but then remembering various scenarios where stocking up might come in handy.......such as local flooding,storms, etc. which do happen.

Meaning WATER, THE BASICS, ALTERNATE HEAT AND LIGHT SOURCES, a stocked pantry.....

This we just do up here in Vermont. Everyone does it.

We are NOT preppers for Doomsday. However, anyone with half a brain would at one time or another "imagine" what they might do if our country went down the tubes in one way or another.
This does not mean they would dwell on it and prepare for it night and day. But to discuss it is totally another thing. It's called making conversation.

I wouldn't live in a renovated schoolbus , that's for sure.

Nor follow my husband around the country in a tractor trailer truck fitted for Doomsday....with rifles, etc.

We watched that show. However, did not follow through on one single suggestion.

There are actually a lot of rural New Englanders who do trap and hunt and could survive with the best of the survivalists........but we are not one of them......and I don't worry about Doomsday, however, we also do not have our head in the sand re the world situation or our planet in distress.

You'd be surprised how many other interests we do have, without fixating on our mortality.

Peace.

[senior citizen]

That reminds me. I bought a house one time that had an underground fallout shelter in the back yard (remember those from the 60's missle crisis?). It wasn't the reason I bought the house but just happened to be there from a previous owner. It was full of roaches and my wife at the time would never go near it until a direct hit from Hurricane Frederic (33 years ago last night) was due at night and we cleaned it out and stayed in it (her choice), not hearing any wind or noise from the outside. It had an air pump for fresh air. We were in walkie talkie contact with our neighbors who also had one but chose to stay above ground to their regret. When we came out the next morning there were 30 trees down in our yard!
Much like a tornado shelter.

You were lucky to have it at that time........your story points out that one just never knows what could happen. Does not hurt to be prepared.

[graciegirl]

Sorry but she misunderstood then. Again, to comment on various subjects such as the "Preppers" , which by the way, I thought were wasting their time as well.....going to the extremes that they did.........

.......but then remembering various scenarios where stocking up might come in handy.......such as local flooding,storms, etc. which do happen.

Meaning WATER, THE BASICS, ALTERNATE HEAT AND LIGHT SOURCES, a stocked pantry.....

This we just do up here in Vermont. Everyone does it.

We are NOT preppers for Doomsday. However, anyone with half a brain would at one time or another "imagine" what they might do if our country went down the tubes in one way or another.
This does not mean they would dwell on it and prepare for it night and day. But to discuss it is totally another thing. It's called making conversation.

I wouldn't live in a renovated schoolbus , that's for sure.

Nor follow my husband around the country in a tractor trailer truck fitted for Doomsday....with rifles, etc.

We watched that show. However, did not follow through on one single suggestion.

There are actually a lot of rural New Englanders who do trap and hunt and could survive with the best of the survivalists........but we are not one of them......and I don't worry about Doomsday, however, we also do not have our head in the sand re the world situation or our planet in distress.

You'd be surprised how many other interests we do have, without fixating on our mortality.

Peace.

I knew that. You are a well rounded person, you are a frustrated journalist, but it takes one to know one.

[senior citizen]

I knew that. You are a well rounded person, you are a frustrated journalist, but it takes one to know one.

Good Morning Gracie....

How did you guess? My husband and I are always saying we should collaborate on a book......in fact, yesterday we were saying we should write a Doomsday scenario...........our minds are always thinking. So far so good......meaning we still have all of our marbles.

Maybe we'll write on the end of the Aztec calendar, upcoming this December. December 21, 2012.

I always say....."set it in a normal neighborhood where unsuspecting folks begin to discover what truly is about to transpire........."

Would you like to collaborate as well???? Three heads are better than one.

Now, hopefully those who cannot read between the lines are not taking this out of context..........any Aztecs out there?

[Posh 08]

I am a serious thinker. Most of us are over the hill looking down. Live now.
Dance now. Smile now. Hug now, Care now.

Don't worry. Be happy.

:clap2::clap2::clap2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

[quirky3]

Originally Posted by graciegirl
I am a serious thinker. Most of us are over the hill looking down. Live now.
Dance now. Smile now. Hug now, Care now.

Don't worry. Be happy.
:clap2::clap2::clap2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:
:BigApplause: Myself, I like to focus on new beginnings.

[Trish Crocker]

I'm working on a cook book....150 ways to serve love bugs. As long as a disaster occurs during love bug season I'm all set!

[graciegirl]

I'm working on a cook book....150 ways to serve love bugs. As long as a disaster occurs during love bug season I'm all set!

Trish...allow me to divert you from that um...very good idea. I think that Scotch and Twinkies would be better.;)

[CaptJohn]

I'm working on a cook book....150 ways to serve love bugs. As long as a disaster occurs during love bug season I'm all set!

You have a much more creative mind than mine. I was only thinking of roasting or chocolate coating them! If we can make that popular and add in making burmese pythons as a desirable delicacy, we could solve two of the state's problems and maybe win a prize. :laugh:

Then maybe add in Gracie's scotch as a chaser but I'm leery of the twinkies as I doubt they are ever expelled from the body!

[CaptJohn]

Duplicate elimination. Next.

[CaptJohn]

Sorry but she misunderstood then. Again, to comment on various subjects such as the "Preppers" , which by the way, I thought were wasting their time as well.....going to the extremes that they did.........

.......but then remembering various scenarios where stocking up might come in handy.......such as local flooding,storms, etc. which do happen.

Meaning WATER, THE BASICS, ALTERNATE HEAT AND LIGHT SOURCES, a stocked pantry.....

This we just do up here in Vermont. Everyone does it.

We are NOT preppers for Doomsday. However, anyone with half a brain would at one time or another "imagine" what they might do if our country went down the tubes in one way or another.
This does not mean they would dwell on it and prepare for it night and day. But to discuss it is totally another thing. It's called making conversation.

I wouldn't live in a renovated schoolbus , that's for sure.

Nor follow my husband around the country in a tractor trailer truck fitted for Doomsday....with rifles, etc.

We watched that show. However, did not follow through on one single suggestion.

There are actually a lot of rural New Englanders who do trap and hunt and could survive with the best of the survivalists........but we are not one of them......and I don't worry about Doomsday, however, we also do not have our head in the sand re the world situation or our planet in distress.

You'd be surprised how many other interests we do have, without fixating on our mortality.

Peace.

:agree: Very well written and applies to the gulf coast as well. One only has to be out of utilites for a week or two after a storm to appreciate what's needed.

[senior citizen]

:agree: Very well written and applies to the gulf coast as well. One only has to be out of utilites for a week or two after a storm to appreciate what's needed.

Great minds think alike !

[A-4 Skyhawk]

After reading through this thread, You all have scared the ____ out of me! As a result, I have gone on my roof and painted a big Bulls Eye with a sign that says "AIM HERE". :sing: The way I figure it, I'll never know what hit me and with a little bit of luck, I'll find myself in Heaven with my Honey, trying to figure out who the SOB was that got us.
(actually . . . . I plan to lighten up :wave:)

[Golfingnut]

After reading through this thread, You all have scared the ____ out of me! As a result, I have gone on my roof and painted a big Bulls Eye with a sign that says "AIM HERE". :sing: The way I figure it, I'll never know what hit me and with a little bit of luck, I'll find myself in Heaven with my Honey, trying to figure out who the SOB was that got us.
(actually . . . . I plan to lighten up :wave:)

LOL. You would be better off than peeping out the window with a 357 in your hand loaded and ready to kill your neighbor who might just come and ask for help.

[2BNTV]

After reading through this thread, You all have scared the ____ out of me! As a result, I have gone on my roof and painted a big Bulls Eye with a sign that says "AIM HERE". :sing: The way I figure it, I'll never know what hit me and with a little bit of luck, I'll find myself in Heaven with my Honey, trying to figure out who the SOB was that got us.
(actually . . . . I plan to lighten up :wave:)

:1rotfl:

[TimeForChange]

I hoard wine and have guns. Does that make me a "prepper"?

[CaptJohn]

I hoard wine and have guns. Does that make me a "prepper"?

Depends on how much wine you have and how long it will last with all us TOTVers! :laugh:

[raynitsche]

I'm going to assume if something happens that Katie Belle's will
be closed?

[George Bieniaszek]

The "Preppers" must be really moving fast to stock up supplies. There is a band of Idiots out there that are convinced that the world will be ending in 3 months -- December 21, 2012.

December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information (http://www.december212012.com)

[Golfingnut]

The "Preppers" must be really moving fast to stock up supplies. There is a band of Idiots out there that are convinced that the world will be ending in 3 months -- December 21, 2012.

December 21 2012, The official Website for 122112 Information (http://www.december212012.com)

Sad way to live your life in my opinion.