Gas golf carts stinks!

[jimbo2012]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

[graciegirl]

We have one of each. Gas carts are economical, dependable and responsive.

If forced to choose, I would keep the gas. We had our exhaust pipe moved, we have a four seater . You don't spend that much time in tunnels.

I think your goals may be causing you to prejudge. ;)

[Taltarzac725]

We have one of each. Gas carts are economical, dependable and responsive.

If forced to choose, I would keep the gas. We had our exhaust pipe moved, we have a four seater . You don't spend that much time in tunnels.

I think your goals may be causing you to prejudge. ;)

We have had a Yamaha gas cart almost 7 years and it is not that noisy nor smelly.

It sounds like the cart you have at your rental really needs a tune-up.

[Golfingnut]

We had a similar experience while renting a few years ago. Rental came with a gas cart and like you, we found it very stinky, loud and rattled a lot compared to our elec back in Georgia. We bought a new elec when we moved down for those very reasons. Our elec will only get about 60 to 65 miles on a charge, but so far that has not been a problem. As a matter of fact, I have never seen ours below the half way mark. However, if money is a concern, I do hear a lot about the Gas being less expensive over the long term, i.e. 10 years or so. For us spreading even a few thousand dollars over 10 years for the convenience of clean quiet comfort was a no brainer.

[paulandjean]

Vote gas cart here.You can drive,drive and drive with that cart.Next month will try driving it to the Georgia state line,on one tank of gas. No smell that you complain about. Tunnels ,you are thru in 4 seconds. Just pass carts if you do not want to be behind them.

[Golfingnut]

We have had a Yamaha gas cart almost 7 years and it is not that noisy nor smelly.

It sounds like the cart you have at your rental really needs a tune-up.

Sorry, but I must disagree with you. Our neighbor has bought one of the new Yamaha's that have been redesigned to be more quiet and less smelly. YES it is better than the old models, but it still smells and it is still loud and clunky sounding when compared to an elec cart. If you are in the open air within 5 feet of the exhaust pipe of anything burning gasoline it is smelly.

[champion6]

All I can say is... I love my gas Yamaha.

[Golfingnut]

All I can say is... I love my gas Yamaha.

And you should. They have the best reputation of any cart rather gas or elec. Yamaha does not do well in the elec cart category, but they take first place when it comes to gas.

[Happinow]

When we had company we rented them a gas golf cart. If I had based my golf cart experience on this cart i would have purchased an electric cart. Thankfully, we already purchased a gas cart so I knew that not all carts were like the rental one. The rentals are very low end. Gas carts are louder than electric but we love our gas cart and we never have to worry about getting stranded due to low battery. I'll take my gas cart over an electric any day!

[JoeC1947]

We have two electric carts and at this point would never own a gas cart.

[Challenger]

Have 2 gas carts for last 2 1/2 years. Use them a lot . Obviously noisier than electric, not particularily smelly. No stains on garage floor, no exploding batteries, no anxiety over remaining battery charge. Like the quiey smooth drive of electric, but will wait for a few years for improvement of range and better recharge options.

[Rbgold]

Jimbo, when we were down for our Lifestyle visit, we experienced the same issues with the golf cart that came with the patio villa. My husband was totally frustrated. Our friends told us to call TV and ask them to exchange for another. Since we were only down for a couple of days and spending most of the time with our salesman, we only used it one time. If we had been there longer, we would have definitely asked for another cart!

[mm1717]

Gas carts all the way, Yamaha's are terrible get yourself a Club Car gas single stroke engine much quiter and I will be driving around all day while your electric is at home charging !!

[karostay]

Club car has a single stroke engine?
Wow ! The gas engines in my 2 Yamaha's have 4
Where did the the other 3 for club car go :what:

[lovesports]

We have two electric carts and at this point would never own a gas cart.

We also have two electric carts and would never own gas carts.

[cquick]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

.Just my opinion folks

I agree with all your points, and we own 2 (yes, two) electric golf carts.

BUT.....you don't have to worry about running out of juice in a gas cart......I need to think about how far I am going and if my charge is up to it.

I love how quiet they are!:gc:

[jnieman]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

Sounds like you just got a bad one that needs a tune-up. Our gas cart is great. Yes it is louder than an electric cart, but we can climb hills with no problem and no reduction in speed. We don't have to worry about plugging it in or if the batteries need replacing. We also don't have to worry about having a mat underneath it when it's parked so we won't get those rusty looking battery acid drips on our garage floor. We don't smell it at all. Once you do move here, give both gas and electric a try. Many, many of us prefer the gas carts for many reasons.

[keithwand]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

How do you really feel about gas?
While I like the idea of electric and have driven the GEM vehicles in Michigan we chose the 2013 EFI Yamaha GAS.
No odor in the garage; some odor and noise when driving.
I think all golf carts vibrate; more from the tires than the engine.
Mine has the 14 inch wheels so the ride is prob. not as smooth as 10's just like my car has 20's and its not as smooth either but dam (sp) it looks good.

[Bonny]

Yay for my Yamaha gas cart ! ;)

[Patty55]

I have electric-love it. When I moved here I noticed there aren't many gas stations that I could drive a cart to. Firing up my beast 8 cylinder SUV to go buy gas seemed stupid, so I got electric. The way I do it is I have an egg timer, set it at 45 minutes and figure I can go 45 minutes out, 45 back and throw in another 1/2 hour getting lost. Have never gotten stuck and if I do I can call that towing guy.

I wish it had a built in charger, then I could charge up anywhere.

[clekr]

I loved my electric cart too. Until I got stuck in it 13 times in the first fourteen months. Then bought a second cart - gas. If going somewhere 20 miles or less I use the electric. If more, or at night, I use the gas one.

[lovesports]

I loved my electric cart too. Until I got stuck in it 13 times in the first fourteen months. Then bought a second cart - gas. If going somewhere 20 miles or less I use the electric. If more, or at night, I use the gas one.

Battery Boys wired our two electric carts up with reducers and good batteries and we run ours many miles before the needle even starts to show anything but full charge. Our lights, turn signals etc. pull off ALL the batteries. The lights etc. also automatically turn off when key is turned off. Our first cart is on 4 years with the reducer without any problems. We go from one end of the Villages to the other and then a shopping trip with plenty of battery left.

This same cart before the reducer, had a 3 year battery life, and was limited in distance.

[Indydealmaker]

Gas golf carts are safer for pedestrians. The noise gives more warning than the electrics.

[cgalloway6]

This is almost a political thread - the ones that like gas won't be swayed, the ones that like electric won't change their mind either and the undecided own both, sometimes taking one, sometimes the other.

[sueandskip]

This reminds me of the argument between a chevy owner and a ford owner, or us made or foreign made...no winners:beer3:

[sueandskip]

Gas golf carts are safer for pedestrians. The noise gives more warning than the electrics.

Harley Dude !

[jimbo2012]

Just returned from about a 35-40 mile ride, my position is the same, it stinks.

Now you guys may be correct it may need servicing, but since I leave on Monday I'm not going to do it but will let the home owner know it needs a checkup perhaps.

Needless to say our two electrics will be seen driving around after February with solar roofs.

[kbace6]

This is almost a political thread - the ones that like gas won't be swayed, the ones that like electric won't change their mind either and the undecided own both, sometimes taking one, sometimes the other.

:agree:

[obxgal]

I'll take my gas cart over an electric any day!

[Golfingnut]

Just curious, how many gas cart owners also smoke tobacco? That may explain not smelling the fumes from the engine. No flames please, I am just curious since I do not smoke and the gas carts gag me.

[PaPaLarry]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks
Thats because you are renting!!!! Gas carts are the most economical, and they can get you everywhere in The Villages. I own an electric with brand new batteries in April, (Trojans) and still the warning light came on after playing at Lopez. (Came from Caroline) Light came on crossing Morse Bridge. Means I have 5 more miles. With gas cart, could have made 3 trips to Lopez (with golf) and make it back

[KeepingItReal]

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[l2ridehd]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

Actually a little more then your opinion as your trying to set up a business selling solar golf cart roof panels.

[Wing-nut2]

Why don't you rent an electric cart? Leave the gas one in the garage. Should fix part of the problem.

[KeepingItReal]

....

[paulandjean]

Actually as an owner of a gas cart one could be a bit offended by someone saying gas carts suck...

He is a renter,they think they know it all.

[Paperboy]

He is a renter,they think they know it all.

GAS Yammi's ALL THE WAY!

[Patty55]

Actually a little more then your opinion as your trying to set up a business selling solar golf cart roof panels.

Can't wait to see how that works out.

[philnpat]

Gas golf carts are safer for pedestrians. The noise gives more warning than the electrics.

I'm glad you posted that concern. Sitting at the outside bar at Redsauce last year we saw a gentleman step off the curb at the crosswalk in front of an electric cart. Sadly the gentleman broke his hip. He kept saying over and over " I looked and didn't see or hear him coming"

[Moderator]

The thread is now deviating from the original topic. Opinions on best cart will always vary.

[memason]

Just returned from about a 35-40 mile ride, my position is the same, it stinks.

Now you guys may be correct it may need servicing, but since I leave on Monday I'm not going to do it but will let the home owner know it needs a checkup perhaps.

Needless to say our two electrics will be seen driving around after February with solar roofs.

I'll watch for it, parked next to the cart path :laugh:

[Cantwaittoarrive]

All I can say is... I love my gas Yamaha.

:agree:

[jimbo2012]

Actually a little more then your opinion as your trying to set up a business selling solar golf cart roof panels.

Not really true, I was totally prepared to give a fair evaluation on my ride.

I only reported my opinion, incidentally my wife had the same opinion.

Make sure you get the best tow rope available

I will have the best tow in the universe.............the Sun

[jimmy D]

Shore Nuff good buddy . Only looked once Yep New Yorker. One wk and still Griping. You MUST get with the people from Michigan soon

[asianthree]

gas so far so good

[Ripcord13]

Just curious, how many gas cart owners also smoke tobacco? That may explain not smelling the fumes from the engine. No flames please, I am just curious since I do not smoke and the gas carts gag me.

Oh get real will you!

[Mr Hanky]

I was just reading today that there are over fifty thousand golf carts in the villages. They went on to say that ninety percent of them are gas models.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[jimbo2012]

I think it's about half, not 90%

[Mr Hanky]

I think it's about half, not 90%

Just tellin ya what I read bud. Check it out for you self at one hundred interesting facts bout the villages.:gc:

[philnpat]

I think it's about half, not 90%

It's less than half, Jimbo...just drive around and observe. Did you ever notice that trying to get rid of an electric is a tough sell?
When my gas cart's fuel guage shows half full, it's half full. When my neighbor's electric gauge shows half full, then minutes later it's dead on the path it makes me love my gas even more.

[Patty55]

It's less than half, Jimbo...just drive around and observe. Did you ever notice that trying to get rid of an electric is a tough sell?
When my gas cart's fuel guage shows half full, it's half full. When my neighbor's electric gauge shows half full, then minutes later it's dead on the path it makes me love my gas even more.

I was told the electric gauges are useless, that's why I use a kitchen timer.

[escapequeen]

We really love and enjoy our 2011 gas Yamaha that we bought last year. Lots of miles per tank of gas and no problems with batteries and such. To each his own. :spoken:

[NIPAS K-9]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

RELAXXXXXXXXX YOU ARE ONLY RENTING IT. YOU DIDNT' BUY IT. TO EACH THERE OWN OPINION. SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT A BAD ONE, ALOT OTHERS LOVE THEIRS. I WOULN'T DRAW A CONCULSION THAT ALL GAS CARTS ARE BAD , BECAUSE OF ONE...... LIKE CARS, SOME ARE GREAT AND OTHERS DON'T WORK FOR SOME. I WOULD TRY DIFFERENT BRANDS AND DIFFERENT CARTS BEFORE MAKING SUCH A STRONG STATEMENT. BUT TO EACH THEIR OWN. WISH YOU LUCK WITH WHICH EVER ONE YOU CHOOSE. THE ONES WITH RENTALS ARE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE THAN THE PRIVATELY OWNED ONES. THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINED AND DRIVEN ON A DAILY BASIS FOR ONE. I KNOW BECAUSE I DROVE ONE FROM A RENTAL, AND THEN A NEIGHBORS CART. LIKE A VOLKSWAGEN TO A CADILLAC IN DIFFERENCE AND PERFORMANCE. :spoken:

[jimbo2012]

When my neighbor's electric gauge shows half full, then minutes later it's dead on the path it makes me love my gas even more.

I was told the electric gauges are useless, that's why I use a kitchen timer.

If they are analog or those green to red dials they are not the best.

Those are just sub standard gauges, I have digital that are accurate.

What you're describing should not be occurring.

I know they don't sell them around here, they are about $35.

[jimbo2012]

THE ONES WITH RENTALS ARE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE THAN THE PRIVATELY OWNED ONES.

This is the privately owned, it came with the house, it is two years old, very new looking.


ps: Caps is shouting........

[CaptJohn]

After reading all these very divided opinions (I don't drive either type), I next read the thread on lovebugs and it hit me: the gas carts are bringing in the lovebugs since they like fumes and heat so the conclusion is those who like their gas carts love the lovebugs! :1rotfl:

[Bosoxfan]

We have two electric carts and at this point would never own a gas cart.


:bowdown: :gc: :gc: :agree:

[Bosoxfan]

Oh get real will you!
I agree...the worse is being behind a smoker in a gas cart inside a tunnel!

[CarGuys]

Club car has a single stroke engine?
Wow ! The gas engines in my 2 Yamaha's have 4
Where did the the other 3 for club car go :what:

Got a biker guy pretty upset once. His knock off made in China Harley shirt had Suck Bang Blow on the back.

Well when I went to Automotive School
Suck is the intake stroke,
Squeeze is the compression.
Bang is the ignition
and Blow is the exhaust. Hence a four stroke engine

When I told him it was impossible for his Harley shirt to run, He was missing a cycle he got mad. " My cycle is not missing! It is right outside-"

Can't imagine a one stroke

Just saying!

[asianthree]

Jimbo you only have a week enjoy its just a golf cart

[jimbo2012]

Absolutely enjoying it, the cart is such a minor issue.

[justjim]

We have one of each. Gas carts are economical, dependable and responsive.

If forced to choose, I would keep the gas. We had our exhaust pipe moved, we have a four seater . You don't spend that much time in tunnels.

I think your goals may be causing you to prejudge. ;)

:gc: We too have one of each----one for short trips (electric) and gas Club Car for the long trips around TV. This works well for us but to each his own. Gas is remanufactured and very little smell. A gas cart is going to be a bit noisy as that is the nature of the beast. Some are more noisy than others! :shrug:

[EdV]

If you want more mileage out of an electric then you can outfit your cart with eight 6-volt batteries. This is typically yielding 60 miles on a charge. In that case my butt would give out before the batteries did.

[gatherer47]

In all my years driving around the Villages,I've never seen anybody pouring gas from a can into a golf cart.[although I'm sure it has happened] However I've seen numerous instances of carts running out of a charge and getting towed.I prefer my gas cart but have to admit driving my friend's electric cart is so quiet that it is quite enjoyable.

[Donna Temple]

Could that be what's wrong with me? LOL. Hubby and I are big drag race fans!

[Penguin]

Ok, I'll admit I'm bias to begin with because I like solar electric.

:gc:

The Patio Villa we're renting for the week came with a new Yamaha cart, never drove a gas cart before. :shrug:

First it smells anyone that says it doesn't I just don't believe, and yes in the tunnels it's worse, barf
and now it's not that crowded around here.

When behind another gas cart it smells twice as bad (theirs and yours).

Secondly noisy, I've read here that they are not, again not true, they certainly are noisy reminds me of my sit down lawn mower at home.

This should be called an egg beater not a cart, it vibrates a lot, the canopy and other parts rattle.

Last point for any cart, my cart at home I cut the steering post 4" it is much more comfortable to drive I forgot how high the standard steering wheel height is.

.Just my opinion folks

Hey jimbo, the problem lies in that all those rented golf carts are beat to death by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that comes here and I dont think they are maintained as well as your own. You know what they say " its not mine so who cares". I have an 09 Yamaha gas and its pretty cool. No beefs from me.

[jimbo2012]

Again this is not a rented cart, it is the homeowners.

But because of the comments I received here about the fact that it is this particular cart and not the normal gas cart I test drove a new one telling the dealer in advance what I found on the one I had, he gave me a demo in new one a few months old.

Guess what it still stinks, still makes as much noise, sorry still don't like them.

Went down the road to the Club Car dealer took a demo, electric just is so much nicer.

To each his own.

[karostay]

Just wondering if someone is here for only a week why would they spend some much time on TOTV on such a pointless issue:jester:

[jimbo2012]

If it's pointless why would anyone read the thread.

I wonder why it matters how long I'm here, or how one spends his time...thought it was my prerogative..:a20:

[CaptJohn]

Just wondering if someone is here for only a week why would they spend some much time on TOTV on such a pointless issue:jester:

It's not pointless to him and 68 other posts on this thread. It's his trip, he can do what he wants.

[Golfingnut]

If you want more mileage out of an electric then you can outfit your cart with eight 6-volt batteries. This is typically yielding 60 miles on a charge. In that case my butt would give out before the batteries did.

There are carts that will only yield about 30 miles on a charge, but if that is a concern then buy a better electric cart or put up with the terrible noise and smell from a gas one. I can go from the VA clinic on 42 north all the way to brownwood and back twice before running low on charge. I agree, I would be wore out before the batteries.

[hotrodgirl]

It's not pointless to him and 68 other posts on this thread. It's his trip, he can do what he wants.

:agree: each is entitled to their opinion. It seems important to Jimbo, but perhaps not so much to you and that's OK for both of you!

[karostay]

About as pointless as counting 68 post i guess

[Villager Dude]

Has anyone checked out the Par Cars Electric version ? They did a test run and got 80 miles on a charge . Seems like if you want an electric cart this should exceed any daily needs for range in TV.

[paulandjean]

Pretty simple gas carts are so much better.

[KeepingItReal]

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[Golfingnut]

Pretty simple gas carts are so much better.

You may be right, that gas carts are better, but the point of this thread has made it clear from both gas and electric cart owners that gas carts are very noisy and they stink to high bejesus.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

I have one of each and my gas cart is by far my best cart

[gatherer47]

I agree that gas carts are noisy but disagree about the smell.

[jimbo2012]

Hard to believe U don't smell the exhaust.

[anarick]

Could've been a cart fart.

[A-4 Skyhawk]

Hard to believe U don't smell the exhaust.

We came down for LSV in March and ended up buying a house in Sanibel. One night we were out cruising around in the Lifestyles golf cart and got lost. It got cold so we zipped ourselves in the cart. I was sick for 24 hours from the exhaust fumes inside the enclosure. Turns out the cheap carts that come with Lifestyles exhaust right under the cart. In May we bought a new Yamaha gas cart from the villages cart place at LSL. They put an exhaust pipe extension on all of their carts that gets the exhaust out from under the cart. WE LOVE THIS CART because it's quiet, doesn't smell, and goes like _____ !!:gc::crap2:

[capecodbob]

Been looking all summer for a golf cart. Read all your posts and visited many golf cart websites all over the net.
Have no pony in this discussion. Not trying to sell ya anything either. Just looking for a good (probably new) golf cart. So, here is what I come away with after all the reading and research.
I'll be buying a Yamaha "direct injection" golf cart. Very efficient, with no need for a choke, and I'll use high-test gas. The gas smell will be almost impossible to detect, I'll get better mileage due to the direct injection, and I won't have to deal with the batteries either...which seem to nick ya about $1,000 every few years.
Bob

[A-4 Skyhawk]

Been looking all summer for a golf cart. Read all your posts and visited many golf cart websites all over the net.
Have no pony in this discussion. Not trying to sell ya anything either. Just looking for a good (probably new) golf cart. So, here is what I come away with after all the reading and research.
I'll be buying a Yamaha "direct injection" golf cart. Very efficient, with no need for a choke, and I'll use high-test gas. The gas smell will be almost impossible to detect, I'll get better mileage due to the direct injection, and I won't have to deal with the batteries either...which seem to nick ya about $1,000 every few years.
Bob

That's what we got for all the reasons you stated and we love it. We got one of the package carts with a rear facing back seat and golf bag attachment.

[jimbo2012]

the batteries either...which seem to nick ya about $1,000 every few years.
Bob

More like $550-600 every 4-6 years

[CarGuys]

Been looking all summer for a golf cart. Read all your posts and visited many golf cart websites all over the net.
Have no pony in this discussion. Not trying to sell ya anything either. Just looking for a good (probably new) golf cart. So, here is what I come away with after all the reading and research.
I'll be buying a Yamaha "direct injection" golf cart. Very efficient, with no need for a choke, and I'll use high-test gas. The gas smell will be almost impossible to detect, I'll get better mileage due to the direct injection, and I won't have to deal with the batteries either...which seem to nick ya about $1,000 every few years.
Bob

Do NOT use High Test Gas that makes it run worse. High test in a cart designed for 87 smolders in the combustion chamber. Building carbon and poor combustion. Save the money for a nice dinner out.

Your Yamaha manual will confirm this.

[NotGolfer]

what about the fumes in the tunnels? I must have asthma as it chokes me every time...especially when it's especially humid out!

[jgbama]

Has anyone checked out the Par Cars Electric version ? They did a test run and got 80 miles on a charge . Seems like if you want an electric cart this should exceed any daily needs for range in TV.

Checked out the Par Car yesterday. . . go for my orientation Tuesday morning at 8AM and getting it delivered shortly after. Can't wait. It's got bells and whistles on top of bells and whistles. Christmas comes Tuesday for me! Love my new Par Car! :eclipsee_gold_cup::pepper2:

[EdV]

JG, did you get the model with eight 6-volt batteries. If wo, what kind of milage are they claiming for it.

[Tom78]

The reason that these so call recondition gas carts smell and smoke is that the engine is worn out when it was purchased by the dealer from golf courses. That's why they got rid of them.

[Tom78]

These gas fumes are killers. Look for some law suits in the future in the vilages

[jpflier]

Gas carts do smell & they are loud. And forget about passing them, if I'm going 19 & the gas cart ahead of me is doing 19, how am I supposed to pass? And going through tunnels? C'mon, 4 seconds maybe, but it still stinks to high heaven, and it tends to linger in the tunnel.

Give me electric any day. I have a 2003 with ok batteries. I can make it from the El Camino Real area to Brownwood and back. I can make it from El Camino Real to Bonifay, play 18 holes & still come home, and I don't have the best batteries in the world. Keep the batteries charged & filled, keep the tires up to snuff, and it will keep on going.

[rubicon]

Gas cart emit more carbon than a car. So do gas lawn mowers. With all of these golf courses and new comers buying gas carts I would guess that The Villages is as much a contributor to global warming as the chinese:rant-rave::D

[UpNorth]

Seems like SOMEBODY should be able to design a gas golf cart that is as quiet, smooth-running and fume-free as a cheap enconocar from asia or elsewhere. 4-stroke, better insulation and sealed gas tank might do the trick. Sounds like what most people want. Maybe too expensive to build for a competitive price?

[jimbo2012]

Most folks want a Eco friendly golf cart.......it's called electric.....

U know so future generations have air to breathe

[Easyrider]

Most folks want a Eco friendly golf cart.......it's called electric.....



Leaving a trail of battery acid burns on the concrete everywhere electric carts park and go doesn't fit very well at all with being Eco Friendly...:girlneener:


Just to keep it all fair and balanced....

Just to be fair to the gas carts you should go to any country club or other parking lot where carts park often and the golf cart trails on the golf courses and see all the many large rust looking spots which are actually spilled battery acid burns. Even notice street crossings where there is concrete and see if you want these acid burns on your driveway and garage floor not to mention the safety hazards of dealing with the battery refilling and charging over and over. Gas fumes if there are any last for a few seconds but it doesn't appear that it bothers some electric owners that they are leaving a trail of battery acid everywhere they go which will be there indefinitely.

Buggies Unlimited Golf Cart Forum
Batteries constantly leaking
Postby phankins » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:32 am

The batteries on my 2001 PDS leak acid/water constantly through the vent caps. Even when not charging, they gurgle and the acid seeps out. Just the other day, I had all 6 batteries out to clean up the corrosion, and just sitting on the ground, disconnected, they leak acid and make noise. Is this normal? You can imagine what kind of corrosion problems I have to deal with. The batteries are Exides and are 2 to 3 years old and have done this since day one. I keep distilled water in them and they seem to be in good shape as far as taking a charge and run time. If this is normal I'm going to have to rethink owning an electric cart.
Thanks
phankins

[jimbo2012]

Why is it no one else complains about this alleged battery acid here in TV with 25,000 of them running happily along

[redwitch]

Why is it no one else complains about this alleged battery acid here in TV with 25,000 of them running happily along

Check out any garage floor where an electric cart lives. I don't care how careful you are, you're going to have acid burns unless you have a pad to protect the floor. Like the noise of a gas cart, tis the nature of the beast.

Both gas and electric have their fans. Both gas and electric have pluses and minuses. Reading this thread is like listening to an old-time Dodgers fan harp to a modern-day Yankee fan. No comparison between the two teams; each has their good points and you'll never convince either party of the merits of the other team (even though they might be polite and agree to some points).

[Polar Bear]

Most folks want a Eco friendly golf cart.......it's called electric.....

U know so future generations have air to breathe

And we all know usable, economically feasible electricity just magically appears out of thin air.

[livsea2]

And we all know usable, economically feasible electricity just magically appears out of thin air.

No wait I heard electricity is grown on trees in Japan and shipped over in barrels.
You don't mean to say it's actually generated in those diesel or coal fired generation plants (over 96% in this country)? Many of which are the home to the largest CANCER CLUSTERS in this country. Oh but it's okay people are dying of cancer elsewhere while Villagers are tooting around in their ELECTRIC golf carts. As long as it's not in my backyard right?
Sorry folks but the one argument that you cannot make is that electric golf carts are in any way eco-friendly nor people friendly.

[philnpat]

Check out any garage floor where an electric cart lives. I don't care how careful you are, you're going to have acid burns unless you have a pad to protect the floor. Like the noise of a gas cart, tis the nature of the beast.

Both gas and electric have their fans. Both gas and electric have pluses and minuses. Reading this thread is like listening to an old-time Dodgers fan harp to a modern-day Yankee fan. No comparison between the two teams; each has their good points and you'll never convince either party of the merits of the other team (even though they might be polite and agree to some points).

Maybe it's time for an entrepreneur to design a golf cart Depends...It could be called a "BAD" (battery acid diaper).
Seriously, a floor drip mat is issued with each new cart sold at The Villages Cart Store. That's a pretty good indication that it's going to happen. My preowned home's floor looks like it was sprayed with orange paint.

[jimbo2012]

I researched a bit as what the exhaust gases are contributing to the air you breathe.

Princeton University reported on the possibility of reducing the amount of gas emissions from the University fleet. A total of 92 gas golf carts. on campus provided the largest amount of harmful emissions - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases.

Not to post a bunch of calculations and bore you with numbers but 1 gas cart produces about the same emissions as 6 Ford Taurus'

Go Green College, calculated based on their 100 carts half gas half elec the following;

50 gas carts generates 161,200 pounds of CO2 a year!
50 electric powered carts generates only 41,700 pounds of CO2 a year!

So about 4 times the about.

So here 25,000 gas carts produce 500 times that amount or 80 million pounds of CO2 a year!

80 million lbs

[McP1605]

I really have no dog in this fight. But, just as an FYI, I own an electric cart. I love the cart... I hate the occasional distance anxiety. I have no problems with my batteries dripping all over the garage (that's sounds like some bad batteries if that is happening and I imagine you get oil leaks with gas carts) and filling the batteries is easy cheesy. I love the quiet and not having to find a gas station. That being said... because of the distance anxiety I seriously considered buying a gas cart. Went to the Villages Car sales this week and drove a gas cart - a 2014 Yamaha! Beautiful cart, but guys the noise was just too much for me personally... and to the tune of $11,000 (I need a four seater), I think I'm just gonna keep on keeping on with my electric cart. I will admit on my test drive that the smell was not a problem, at least for me... can't speak for the guy behind me! I think this is a personal decision for each person. You guys with gas carts... enjoy! They certainly have their advantages, but so do electric. This is going to be a never ending debate I think. I still say we need some really smart person to invent a HYBRID cart! Now that is something I would buy! Whatever you drive... please be safe out there!

[Bonny]

We had electric carts in Michigan. But I love my gas cart here !!

[Peachie]

I researched a bit as what the exhaust gases are contributing to the air you breathe.

Princeton University reported on the possibility of reducing the amount of gas emissions from the University fleet. A total of 92 gas golf carts. on campus provided the largest amount of harmful emissions - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases.

Not to post a bunch of calculations and bore you with numbers but 1 gas cart produces about the same emissions as 6 Ford Taurus'

Go Green College, calculated based on their 100 carts half gas half elec the following;

50 gas carts generates 161,200 pounds of CO2 a year!
50 electric powered carts generates only 41,700 pounds of CO2 a year!

So about 4 times the about.

So here 25,000 gas carts produce 500 times that amount or 80 million pounds of CO2 a year!

80 million lbs

So the bottom line is, Jimbo, they BOTH put out a helluva lot of carbon. When one considers the deafening, filthy trains crisscrossing this country to provide coal which has scarred the earth in it's removal for the production of electricity; the precious resource of water that is constantly needed to keep refilling batteries on a daily basis; disposal of the numerous dead batteries per electric cart with acid in them which require special handling and additional resources, there is no win-win with the environment even with electric.

DRIVE WHICHEVER TYPE CART YOU PREFER BECAUSE UNLESS YOU'RE RIDING A BICYCLE, YOU ARE HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT!

This is the same dumb argument over and over and over and over. DRIVE WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY! :mornincoffee:

[livsea2]

I researched a bit as what the exhaust gases are contributing to the air you breathe.

Princeton University reported on the possibility of reducing the amount of gas emissions from the University fleet. A total of 92 gas golf carts. on campus provided the largest amount of harmful emissions - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases.

Not to post a bunch of calculations and bore you with numbers but 1 gas cart produces about the same emissions as 6 Ford Taurus'

Go Green College, calculated based on their 100 carts half gas half elec the following;

50 gas carts generates 161,200 pounds of CO2 a year!
50 electric powered carts generates only 41,700 pounds of CO2 a year!

So about 4 times the about.

So here 25,000 gas carts produce 500 times that amount or 80 million pounds of CO2 a year!

80 million lbs

Ah but you conveniently failed to factor in the pollution created by the electric generation plant. Add that then we will see which is more harmful.

[jimbo2012]

That's included in the 41,700


4 times the amount bottom line

Go solar then, I did

[joesin]

I have a straight pipe on my gas cart. The louder, the better!!!!!!

[jhrc4]

I understand where you are coming from But. Gas Cart Smells/Odors is everywhere regardless simply because the majority of Golf Carts are " GAS ".
That means when you are behind a Gas Cart or Going thru one of the Tunnels you are smelling other Gas Carts.

[Challenger]

I researched a bit as what the exhaust gases are contributing to the air you breathe.

Princeton University reported on the possibility of reducing the amount of gas emissions from the University fleet. A total of 92 gas golf carts. on campus provided the largest amount of harmful emissions - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases.

Not to post a bunch of calculations and bore you with numbers but 1 gas cart produces about the same emissions as 6 Ford Taurus'

Go Green College, calculated based on their 100 carts half gas half elec the following;

50 gas carts generates 161,200 pounds of CO2 a year!
50 electric powered carts generates only 41,700 pounds of CO2 a year!

So about 4 times the about.

So here 25,000 gas carts produce 500 times that amount or 80 million pounds of CO2 a year!

80 million lbs

My gut tells me that 80 million pounds is grossly overstated-

[Villageshooter]

a gas golf cart is nothing more than a riding lawnmower without the blades, If you want that by your self a zero turn toro! We love our electric cart to listen to the music as we drive around the beautiful villages. It will go over 50 miles in a single charge. I cannot Imagine riding that much in a cart in a single day.

[JP]

If you go to the power plant and stick your head in the chimney, I'm sure it would stink too. If you all think electric is so clean, get real.
I agree electric is quiet but that can be a disadvantage in people won't hear you coming and step out in front of you.
I like gas for the range and convenience.

[DougB]

I researched a bit as what the exhaust gases are contributing to the air you breathe.

Princeton University reported on the possibility of reducing the amount of gas emissions from the University fleet. A total of 92 gas golf carts. on campus provided the largest amount of harmful emissions - carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases.

Not to post a bunch of calculations and bore you with numbers but 1 gas cart produces about the same emissions as 6 Ford Taurus'

Go Green College, calculated based on their 100 carts half gas half elec the following;

50 gas carts generates 161,200 pounds of CO2 a year!
50 electric powered carts generates only 41,700 pounds of CO2 a year!

So about 4 times the about.

So here 25,000 gas carts produce 500 times that amount or 80 million pounds of CO2 a year!

80 million lbs

Well then, guess that's a good thing. More CO2 for the plants = more oxygen for us.
carbon dioxide + water =light energy=> glucose + oxygen

[Bay Kid]

I am sooo confused that I went out and bought one of each!

[wwddww]

This debate could go on forever. Gas VS. Electric. You are not going to please everybody. Trying to push your beliefs on everyone is a bunch of BS. If you are not happy, move. I am sure you will find someplace to live, were you will be happy.

[PattyCakes]

I've had gas and electric. My electric cart, with new batteries, was stolen several years ago from the Publix Mulberry parking lot. The one I use now is gas, and I wouldn't have another battery cart. Husband had a battery cart as well, and it quit on him coming home from golfing at Havana or one of those courses quite a way from our home in Springdale. Now he has gas as well. TVs is so large now that I wouldn't feel comfortable setting out for the outer limits with just batteries.