Rumors Wanted - 466A Commercial Development?

[Steadfast]

Living in the South West end of The Villages means a trip up North for most things. Any and all rumors (or even facts) regarding planned commercial development along 466A (between Buena Vista and the Library) would be welcomed. I am afraid that most will be near Brownwood (on 44) which is also a bit of a trek.

So... what are you hearing?

:posting:

[Bogie Shooter]

Living in the South West end of The Villages means a trip up North for most things. Any and all rumors (or even facts) regarding planned commercial development along 466A (between Buena Vista and the Library) would be welcomed. I am afraid that most will be near Brownwood (on 44) which is also a bit of a trek.

So... what are you hearing?

:posting:

What good are rumors??

[Steadfast]

Just inserting a bit of "humor"... :ohdear:

[CaptJohn]

Sounds like it's time to move closer to shopping! :laugh:

[bluedog103]

I don't think there's much space for commercial development on the south side of 466A. On the north side there's room west of Buena Vista but I don't think that will be golf cart accessible. Looks like we'll either have to go all the way down to 44, east to Colony or north to the 466 shopping areas. Really not a bad problem to have. It's not all that far to any of these areas. I live in St. Charles, which is north of 466A, and none of these areas are a great distance away.
One rumor I did hear was that Wildwood was planning to make their streets golf cart accessible. That could make things interesting, if it's even true.

[skyguy79]

I don't think there's much space for commercial development on the south side of 466A. On the north side there's room west of Buena Vista but I don't think that will be golf cart accessible. Looks like we'll either have to go all the way down to 44, east to Colony or north to the 466 shopping areas. Really not a bad problem to have. It's not all that far to any of these areas. I live in St. Charles, which is north of 466A, and none of these areas are a great distance away.
One rumor I did hear was that Wildwood was planning to make their streets golf cart accessible. That could make things interesting, if it's even true.Noticed the other day that Fruitland Park has posted notice on a portable electronic traffic sign placed on N. Dixie Ave (southbound) between 441/27 & 466a, that they have legalized golf cart usage . Wonder if there are unannounced plans or speculation for development just east of Colony Plaza that might include golf cart access from the Plaza into Fruitland Park. Of course it might just mean that legal golf carts have been authorized and not all golf carts. Maybe someone else know more about this?

[Happinow]

We sure do need more of everything south of 466a, specifically another grocery store. Ever go into Publix in Colony during the day?? Most times you can barely get through the isles. I can't imagine what it will be like in another month. I think it was poor planning on The Villages end to only have one supermarket in that area. Now they are building another bank in that plaza.....just what we need.

[nitehawk]

Is this where the new proposed casino is going ??

[Bogie Shooter]

We sure do need more of everything south of 466a, specifically another grocery store. Ever go into Publix in Colony during the day?? Most times you can barely get through the isles. I can't imagine what it will be like in another month. I think it was poor planning on The Villages end to only have one supermarket in that area. Now they are building another bank in that plaza.....just what we need.

There is only one as of now.........................

[mulligan]

That stretch from sandhill exec. to powell rd would be perfect for a theme park.

[Applepie]

Why do you think it is The Villages responsibity to provide grocery stores, gas stations etc? The developer builds houses. When enough houes being built warrant commericall developent the stores will come on their own. It will be a while before that happens.

[janmcn]

Why do you think it is The Villages responsibity to provide grocery stores, gas stations etc? The developer builds houses. When enough houes being built warrant commericall developent the stores will come on their own. It will be a while before that happens.

Since 2000, the developer has previously built commercial buildings before houses. For instance, Colony opened around Easter 2007 when they were just starting to build south of Bonita Blvd. Apparently, the developer is no longer interested in building commercial space.

[skyguy79]

Apparently, the developer is no longer interested in building commercial space.Don't know about the developer, but could it be that businesses' investment capital in general is a tad short or it's simply a bit too risky to lay out at this time?

[justjim]

There is a piece of land on the north side of 466A west of Buena Vista that The Village Developer apparently couldn't buy or the price was not right? Look for that to be developed in the near future.

[shcisamax]

Noticed the other day that Fruitland Park has posted notice on a portable electronic traffic sign placed on N. Dixie Ave (southbound) between 441/27 & 466a, that they have legalized golf cart usage . Wonder if there are unannounced plans or speculation for development just east of Colony Plaza that might include golf cart access from the Plaza into Fruitland Park. Of course it might just mean that legal golf carts have been authorized and not all golf carts. Maybe someone else know more about this?

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't take the cows away. Or the horses. Or the open land. That's what Brownwood shopping is for. there is plenty of accessible shopping on 466 and in Colony and will be tons in Brownwood. I will be mighty sad if the cows don't come home.

[happy employee]

We could sure use a Hooters!!!! As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

[Steadfast]

We sure do need more of everything south of 466a, specifically another grocery store. Ever go into Publix in Colony during the day?? Most times you can barely get through the isles. I can't imagine what it will be like in another month. I think it was poor planning on The Villages end to only have one supermarket in that area. Now they are building another bank in that plaza.....just what we need.

If memory serves me correctly, there was a sign indicating that Sweetbay was going in next to the Library (South side of 466A). That sign was taken down a while ago and I have been told by a friend that the Sweetbay is now going in near Brownwood.

[skip0358]

Tilted Kilt would be nice.About the only place by golf cart would be the piece in front of the County Center where Sweetbay was going to go. I think Rt 44 is going to be the next 466. There are a few small pieces down in the Colony area and possibly E/O there on 466A outside TV. I know there are 4 sale posted but money is a big factor.

[tghoul]

County Road 466A & Lake Buena Vista Blvd., Wildwood, FL, 34785 - Retail-Pad (land) Property - Off-Market on LoopNet.com (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16863488/County-Road-466A-Lake-Buena-Vista-Blvd-Wildwood-FL/#MapSection)

[Shimpy]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't take the cows away. Or the horses. Or the open land. That's what Brownwood shopping is for. there is plenty of accessible shopping on 466 and in Colony and will be tons in Brownwood. I will be mighty sad if the cows don't come home.

I'm with you....People would have this place looking like NYC if they had their way. It's nice to be able to get into the country in a few minutes. I don't even want to see 466A widened to 4 lanes east of Colony. I enjoy the ride on 466A east of Colony to Micro Race Track Rd and north to Rolling Acres Rd.

[Skybo]

The cows are there for tax purposes. The land will eventually be sold and developed. And YES, we need another grocery store on 466a...the Publix in Colony is bursting at the seams, and it’s getting worse every day.

[mulligan]

There is already a PUD on file for that land. Assisted living, three story multi-family housing, and a small retail/ professional area. Re-zoning done, impact studies underway, and a search for grants and other financing is being done.

[graciegirl]

We could sure use a Hooters!!!! As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

I heard they were building one to employ Villages Residents. It will be called Droopers.

[graciegirl]

The cows are there for tax purposes. The land will eventually be sold and developed. And YES, we need another grocery store on 466a...the Publix in Colony is bursting at the seams, and it’s getting worse every day.

There were plans last year for a Sweetbay nearer to Buena Vista on 466A but apparently their corporate changed their minds. It is hard to convince anyone who hasn't been here what enormous growth we are experiencing. This is true of almost all large corporations. They can't believe that we have had this growth and most of it in the last eight years. i am thinking that the closest Rooms to go is in Ocala. How dumb is that? Same with Steinmart.

Kirklands and Kohls and TJMaxx got the picture. We just need to be swamping Publix Corporate with emails for another store on 466A. I am told that the one at Colony is their highest grossing store in the chain and takes in more than a million dollars a week!

We are an amazing secret if you ask me. The people who do demographics for corporate growth all must have lost their jobs because of the economic downturn.

Here is a contact link for Publix...https://www.publix.com/contact/SendUsAMessage.do

[shcisamax]

There is already a PUD on file for that land. Assisted living, three story multi-family housing, and a small retail/ professional area. Re-zoning done, impact studies underway, and a search for grants and other financing is being done.

Do you mean all the land out towards Fruitland? I won't throw a hissy fit if it is just the land between Morse and Buena but the other direction? Please say it isn't so.

As Brownwood gets built up along with Wildwood, we need to have some open air space. Otherwise, we start looking like one long strip mall ...yuck...and one of the most striking parts of TV is going from residential to shopping to rural. It is actually what attracted this citified suburbanite to the prospect of TV. I love to go across Rolling Acres as a poster above said and see the billy goats and the horses and the fields and the big sky along with cows and one very cantankerous bull.

Frederick Olmstead who designed and created Central Park in NYC felt the constant bustle of so many people in one place would create a less than optimal mental health status so actually built the park to be the place to unwind...I can't imagine NY without the park..it is the free zoloft.. I do hope we won't turn into just endless streets of endless people and endless houses and endless shopping. The open space is our Central Park.

Of course, they could put in a couple dog parks which would help :D

[graciegirl]

Do you mean all the land out towards Fruitland? I won't throw a hissy fit if it is just the land between Morse and Buena but the other direction? Please say it isn't so.

As Brownwood gets built up along with Wildwood, we need to have some open air space. Otherwise, we start looking like one long strip mall ...yuck...and one of the most striking parts of TV is going from residential to shopping to rural. It is actually what attracted this citified suburbanite to the prospect of TV. I love to go across Rolling Acres as a poster above said and see the billy goats and the horses and the fields and the big sky along with cows and one very cantankerous bull.

Frederick Olmstead who designed and created Central Park in NYC felt the constant bustle of so many people in one place would create a less than optimal mental health status so actually built the park to be the place to unwind...I can't imagine NY without the park..it is the free zoloft.. I do hope we won't turn into just endless streets of endless people and endless houses and endless shopping. The open space is our Central Park.

Of course, they could put in a couple dog parks which would help :D

Um...Shes...We have the golf courses. And we do need groceries. And stuff. We could start building tall buildings like New York but people need things and you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

[shcisamax]

Oh GG, of course we need groceries, but a couple grocery stores don't require miles and miles of land. And stuff? I thought the purpose was to get rid of stuff? :) And there is lots of stuff on 466 and 441 and in Spanish Springs and in Lake Sumter and will be more stuff in Brownwood and lots more stuff in Wildwood. And golf courses? Well....you definitely have a point. They are a huge visual beauty. I still vote for keeping some cows.

[graciegirl]

County Road 466A & Lake Buena Vista Blvd., Wildwood, FL, 34785 - Retail-Pad (land) Property - Off-Market on LoopNet.com (http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16863488/County-Road-466A-Lake-Buena-Vista-Blvd-Wildwood-FL/#MapSection)


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[tainsley]

We could sure use a Hooters!!!! As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

I need a job! LOL

[shcisamax]

Not to be ignorant (still trying to figure out how to post a photo and what lots of those initials people put mean) but does bump just mean to check out what was said before? Kind of like an underline?

[KathieI]

Oh GG, of course we need groceries, but a couple grocery stores don't require miles and miles of land. And stuff? I thought the purpose was to get rid of stuff? :) And there is lots of stuff on 466 and 441 and in Spanish Springs and in Lake Sumter and will be more stuff in Brownwood and lots more stuff in Wildwood. And golf courses? Well....you definitely have a point. They are a huge visual beauty. I still vote for keeping some cows.

I agree.. I'd drive an an extra couple of miles as long as I can see the cows and calfs grazing in the fields. I still miss the buffalo!! As far as Colony Publix being crowded, shop like I do, early morning and 8pm at night... quite empty at those times. When you live in a big city, you get used to avoiding stores in the middle of the afternoon.

[CarGuys]

We could sure use a Hooters!!!! As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

A Quaker Steak and Lube franchise would make a fortune and alot of people happy. Or at least one carguy.

Driving home now to get a wing fix!

[spk7951]

Do you mean all the land out towards Fruitland? I won't throw a hissy fit if it is just the land between Morse and Buena but the other direction? Please say it isn't so.:D


The property you are asking about that Wildwood has approved for commercial development is west of the Buena Vista/466A intersection and north of 466A.

[mulligan]

The land I referred to is between powell rd ans the sandhill golf course. Owned by the word family, not TV.

[jnieman]

A Quaker Steak and Lube franchise would make a fortune and alot of people happy. Or at least one carguy.

Driving home now to get a wing fix!

I agree! We had one of those in Beavercreek, Ohio where I came from. Love the wing bar! and the decor!

[Schaumburger]

Not to be ignorant (still trying to figure out how to post a photo and what lots of those initials people put mean) but does bump just mean to check out what was said before? Kind of like an underline?

To "bump" a post is to bring it to the top of the "New Post" list. Sometimes done for lost pet posts that are a few days old or any post that someone wants to bring to the top for those who have not been on TOTV for a few days. Hope that helps.

[cquick]

Tilted Kilt would be nice.About the only place by golf cart would be the piece in front of the County Center where Sweetbay was going to go. I think Rt 44 is going to be the next 466. There are a few small pieces down in the Colony area and possibly E/O there on 466A outside TV. I know there are 4 sale posted but money is a big factor.

Well, Skip, Tilted Kilt has my husband's vote too.....where would they find those generously endowed young women? They sure wouldn't be living in The Villages!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MelZ]

Cattle make great steaks so I'm for the Cattle also:mmmm:

[Single Track]

We could sure use a Hooters!!!! As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

What a sense of humor you have. I simply had to laugh out loud. Thanks for starting my day with a little bit of fun.

[Frank7]

The use of GOLF CARTS in FRUITLAND PK is for all inspected golf carts with police dept. paid stickers. Carts may operate on posted streets if operated by licensed drivers with proof of at least home owners insurance and carts must pass inspection of Lights, tires, brakes, +++. These carts do not need to be street legal.

[gomoho]

The use of GOLF CARTS in FRUITLAND PK is for all inspected golf carts with police dept. paid stickers. Carts may operate on posted streets if operated by licensed drivers with proof of at least home owners insurance and carts must pass inspection of Lights, tires, brakes, +++. These carts do not need to be street legal.

That sounds good, but being new here, where we I go in Fruitland Park in my golf cart? I live near Colony Plaza.

[skip0358]

That sounds good, but being new here, where we I go in Fruitland Park in my golf cart? I live near Colony Plaza.

Fruitland Park has a lowere speed limit so there's no problem 466A is 45 mph and part is still in Sumter County which has already squashed Wildwoods request for golf carts on 466A. So I don't think you'll see GC traffic from Colony Plaza to Fruitland Park. On Powell road just s/o the County Center there's another assisted living place going up. Part of the site at 466A & 462 is going to have a commercial site don't know if it will be stores or not. Sumter Place on 466A will be started their second bldg after the new year that will onlt leave 2 small pieces of land there and after the BBT bank is done there's only 4 spaces left by Colony Plaza. So I'd say Rt 44 or 44A is the next place. Hopefully the shopping plaza w/o Brownwood will start soon.

[Virtual Geezer]

A Quaker Steak and Lube franchise would make a fortune and alot of people happy. Or at least one carguy.

Driving home now to get a wing fix!

Boy you got that one right. Nothing better than a bucket of Lousiana Lickers or Thai 'R' Cracker.

VG

[cquick]

Fruitland Park has a lowere speed limit so there's no problem 466A is 45 mph and part is still in Sumter County which has already squashed Wildwoods request for golf carts on 466A. So I don't think you'll see GC traffic from Colony Plaza to Fruitland Park. On Powell road just s/o the County Center there's another assisted living place going up. Part of the site at 466A & 462 is going to have a commercial site don't know if it will be stores or not. Sumter Place on 466A will be started their second bldg after the new year that will onlt leave 2 small pieces of land there and after the BBT bank is done there's only 4 spaces left by Colony Plaza. So I'd say Rt 44 or 44A is the next place. Hopefully the shopping plaza w/o Brownwood will start soon.

There is NO WAY I would drive my golf cart on 466A! It's a racetrack out there!

[spk7951]

There is NO WAY I would drive my golf cart on 466A! It's a racetrack out there!


I agree with you but sadly I have had the unfortunate opportunity to see a couple of golf carts on that road.

[SALYBOW]

Hooters...As long as it wasn't Villages residents employee base. :)

I was thinking of applying until you said that. BUT, if Gracie will...I will.:pray:

[SALYBOW]

There were plans last year for a Sweetbay nearer to Buena Vista on 466A but apparently their corporate changed their minds. It is hard to convince anyone who hasn't been here what enormous growth we are experiencing. This is true of almost all large corporations. They can't believe that we have had this growth and most of it in the last eight years. i am thinking that the closest Rooms to go is in Ocala. How dumb is that? Same with Steinmart.

Kirklands and Kohls and TJMaxx got the picture. We just need to be swamping Publix Corporate with emails for another store on 466A. I am told that the one at Colony is their highest grossing store in the chain and takes in more than a million dollars a week!

We are an amazing secret if you ask me. The people who do demographics for corporate growth all must have lost their jobs because of the economic downturn.


Here is a contact link for Publix...https://www.publix.com/contact/SendUsAMessage.do




I was told by a Sweetbay Manager that they aren't going to build on 466a but down closer to Brownwood. It will not open for a year or two. By that time we will have had to use shoehorns to get people into and out of Colony Publix. I have to work up the courage to go there it is so crowded.

[SALYBOW]

The use of GOLF CARTS in FRUITLAND PK is for all inspected golf carts with police dept. paid stickers. Carts may operate on posted streets if operated by licensed drivers with proof of at least home owners insurance and carts must pass inspection of Lights, tires, brakes, +++. These carts do not need to be street legal.

Where is there to go in fruitland park that does not involve driving on 441/27? I guess there is the new Bab B Que place they having been building forever.

:gc:

[jblum315]

Are golf carts to be allowed to cross 441 to get to Fruitland Park? Good heavens!

[Shimpy]

I was told by a Sweetbay Manager that they aren't going to build on 466a but down closer to Brownwood. It will not open for a year or two. By that time we will have had to use shoehorns to get people into and out of Colony Publix. I have to work up the courage to go there it is so crowded.

After 2 years + I've never really had a problem with Publix in Colony being too crowded except around holidays. I usuallly go around mid-day and both during the week and weekends. I don't recall having more than 3 in front of me in the checkout lines.

[jblum315]

I go to Publix at 8 in the morning and never have to wait. Everything is open at that hour, the deli, the bakery, the seafood etc., and there's a better selection because everything has just been put out.

[Russ_Boston]

Since 2000, the developer has previously built commercial buildings before houses. For instance, Colony opened around Easter 2007 when they were just starting to build south of Bonita Blvd. Apparently, the developer is no longer interested in building commercial space.

They can't build a space if they don't have interest from commercial entities to lease the space. They are not in the "build it they will come business". Sweetbay, for instance, had a space ready to go near the library but thought better of it and instead have a space ready to build near Brownwood. The rumors are that a big box store or two (heard Dillards and Home Depot) are interested in that large commercial spot to the west of Brownwood on 44.

I don't understand how anyone can make a decision to build where they did and then bitc*** about it. When we all purchased in Buttonwood, or St. James, or Sanibel etc. we knew the landscape. Personally I have no issues. I don't mind the 7 mile ride to Walmart or the 3 mile ride to Sweetbay or the 5 mile ride to Publix etc. etc.

On the other hand think of how many executive golf courses we have (at least from my house) within 2-3 miles. I count 11 (not including the 2 new ones next to the library on 466A)! Plus 2 championship in that same distance with two others only another mile or so. It all depends on your priorities.

[golf2140]

They can't build a space if they don't have interest from commercial entities to lease the space. They are not in the "build it they will come business". Sweetbay, for instance, had a space ready to go near the library but thought better of it and instead have a space ready to build near Brownwood. The rumors are that a big box store or two (heard Dillards and Home Depot) are interested in that large commercial spot to the west of Brownwood on 44.

I don't understand how anyone can make a decision to build where they did and then bitc*** about it. When we all purchased in Buttonwood, or St. James, or Sanibel etc. we knew the landscape. Personally I have no issues. I don't mind the 7 mile ride to Walmart or the 3 mile ride to Sweetbay or the 5 mile ride to Publix etc. etc.

On the other hand think of how many executive golf courses we have (at least from my house) within 2-3 miles. I count 11 (not including the 2 new ones next to the library on 466A)! Plus 2 championship in that same distance with two others only another mile or so. It all depends on your priorities.

Russ,

Great post. What the hell were retired, what's the hurry, :crap2:

[Villages Kahuna]

Talk of a pig farm going in on the undeveloped land just east of Colony Plaza shopping center, behind the nursery area where they grow plants for The Villages.















Aww, c'mon. Laugh a little.

[looneycat]

Talk of a pig farm going in on the undeveloped land just east of Colony Plaza shopping center, behind the nursery area where they grow plants for The Villages.




Aww, c'mon. Laugh a little.

well, there is a new BBQ place going in at the Burke's nursery....close enough!:pepper2:

[mulligan]

Seems like the pigs could come in handy

[zcaveman]

Nothing like fresh BBQ.