dog poop

[travelguy]

just wondered what other residents think in regard to careless dog owners who allow their pets to run up onto other's lawns, relieve themselves (urine), and on occasion poop and the owners do not pick it up.
we have several 'public areas' on our street (the entrys to villa neighborhoods, which are landscaped and have signs and fences) and the dog owners think that these areas are public toilets for their pooches.

the retractable leashes allow the walker to stay in the street while the dog can go all the way up to the front door and and do their business. really! this is my yard and what are you doing on it? and dog urine can burn patches into the lawn? and what happens when i step into your dog poop? c'mon, give me a break.

if you have discovered a solution to this problem i would love to hear about it. there are only 2 dog parks in all of the villages. seems to me that is so inadequate.
thank you for allowing me to vent.:shrug:

[skip0358]

Popcorn maker ready

[duffysmom]

travelguy,You will find that this is an extremely provocative topic. Please, please, PLEASE do a search on "dog poop". There have been thousands of opinions expressed on dog poop ranging from "my snookums can do his dodo anywhere, he's special" to "hide bear traps on your lawn, sit back and watch the fun". :22yikes:

[rubicon]

Oh I just love it! Itmakes me feelwarm and fuzzy when a dogowner ---- all over me and mine. so thoughtful, unselfishand considerate to share these gifts with me and minebarf

[BarryRX]

We haven't discussed this before, have we?

[mulligan]

I've got gin and tonic to go with the popcorn.

[2BNTV]

Here we go again, a poopular thread. :jester:

[Cynbod]

YIKES!!!! Here we go again.... Pass the popcorn and pour me a brew.

[gomoho]

:spoken:Look - this is what I have figured out as an owner of 2 large dogs - some of us care what we do with our animals and some of us don't. That's the short and long of it and it will never, ever get resolved. We have a pump station around the corner from us where we take our dogs in the morning to poop (sorry, but they need to walk a little before they are ready), but we always, always pick up and you would never know they were there; however, someone with a little dog (can tell from the size that is left behind) thinks this is a public place that doesn't matter. So when I see the little dog's poop I pick it up with my big dog's poop 'cause in the grand scheme of things what the heck is a little more poop? So what I am really trying to say is some of us are responsible and some aren't. What are you going to do???? I suggest the next time you see a dog pooping on your lawn, go outside and nicely hand the owner a bag and say "I guess your dog suprised you - here is a bag to pick up his business". It will never be resolved, we can only hope to educate those that don't get it. AMEN.

[mikers31]

We don't have a dog. Never did. But, we like dogs, HOWEVER, when we are eating at our table which is by a window and a dog does its business it is not pleasent. Why can't dog owners have their dogs go in THEIR yards and just enjoy walking with the thing. Our neighbors are good at picking up, but its the lifting of the leg on our bushes (near street) and the no.2 view thats upsetting.

[Pturner]

:spoken:Look - this is what I have figured out as an owner of 2 large dogs - some of us care what we do with our animals and some of us don't. That's the short and long of it and it will never, ever get resolved. We have a pump station around the corner from us where we take our dogs in the morning to poop (sorry, but they need to walk a little before they are ready), but we always, always pick up and you would never know they were there; however, someone with a little dog (can tell from the size that is left behind) thinks this is a public place that doesn't matter. So when I see the little dog's poop I pick it up with my big dog's poop 'cause in the grand scheme of things what the heck is a little more poop? So what I am really trying to say is some of us are responsible and some aren't. What are you going to do???? I suggest the next time you see a dog pooping on your lawn, go outside and nicely hand the owner a bag and say "I guess your dog suprised you - here is a bag to pick up his business". It will never be resolved, we can only hope to educate those that don't get it. AMEN.

Good answer, Gomoho!

... Say, where's Fumar when you need him?

[gerryann]

:spoken:Look - this is what I have figured out as an owner of 2 large dogs - some of us care what we do with our animals and some of us don't. That's the short and long of it and it will never, ever get resolved. We have a pump station around the corner from us where we take our dogs in the morning to poop (sorry, but they need to walk a little before they are ready), but we always, always pick up and you would never know they were there; however, someone with a little dog (can tell from the size that is left behind) thinks this is a public place that doesn't matter. So when I see the little dog's poop I pick it up with my big dog's poop 'cause in the grand scheme of things what the heck is a little more poop? So what I am really trying to say is some of us are responsible and some aren't. What are you going to do???? I suggest the next time you see a dog pooping on your lawn, go outside and nicely hand the owner a bag and say "I guess your dog suprised you - here is a bag to pick up his business". It will never be resolved, we can only hope to educate those that don't get it. AMEN.

So....your BIG dog poop gets picked up......that's great!! Well, my LITTLE dog poop gets picked up as well. There is a VERY small percentage of folks that feel that the rules don't apply to them. It's life...and unfortunately it will never change.

[ugotme]

OH NO! Not another poop thread.

I've only been on here a few months and am already "pooped out" about this topic (sorry I had to). :p

[graciegirl]

I have come to believe that this subject is important to rehash. SOON the people who are at fault will change their ways.

Maybe.

OR none of them read this forum...

OR they don't give a poop.

[KeepingItReal]

[IMG]http://www.thedogfiles.com/2012/07/19/scoop-dog-poop-science/

[CaptJohn]

I've got gin and tonic to go with the popcorn.

Now, you're talking!!! Bill, bring extra popcorn. :laugh:

[Bogie Shooter]

The silly season has started again.

[Bogie Shooter]

just wondered what other residents think in regard to careless dog owners who allow their pets to run up onto other's lawns, relieve themselves (urine), and on occasion poop and the owners do not pick it up.
we have several 'public areas' on our street (the entrys to villa neighborhoods, which are landscaped and have signs and fences) and the dog owners think that these areas are public toilets for their pooches.

the retractable leashes allow the walker to stay in the street while the dog can go all the way up to the front door and and do their business. really! this is my yard and what are you doing on it? and dog urine can burn patches into the lawn? and what happens when i step into your dog poop? c'mon, give me a break.

if you have discovered a solution to this problem i would love to hear about it. there are only 2 dog parks in all of the villages. seems to me that is so inadequate.
thank you for allowing me to vent.:shrug:

Here are your answers........
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/inconsiderate-people-61300/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/all-about-pets-120/unfriendly-unleashed-neighbor-dog-60421/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/dog-poop-60383/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/rdog-responsible-dog-owners-group-159/walkin-dog-59750/

There are more, many, many more, just search. Enjoy!

[RedChariot]

We don't have a dog. Never did. But, we like dogs, HOWEVER, when we are eating at our table which is by a window and a dog does its business it is not pleasent. Why can't dog owners have their dogs go in THEIR yards and just enjoy walking with the thing. Our neighbors are good at picking up, but its the lifting of the leg on our bushes (near street) and the no.2 view thats upsetting.

just wondered what other residents think in regard to careless dog owners who allow their pets to run up onto other's lawns, relieve themselves (urine), and on occasion poop and the owners do not pick it up.
we have several 'public areas' on our street (the entrys to villa neighborhoods, which are landscaped and have signs and fences) and the dog owners think that these areas are public toilets for their pooches.

the retractable leashes allow the walker to stay in the street while the dog can go all the way up to the front door and and do their business. really! this is my yard and what are you doing on it? and dog urine can burn patches into the lawn? and what happens when i step into your dog poop? c'mon, give me a break.

if you have discovered a solution to this problem i would love to hear about it. there are only 2 dog parks in all of the villages. seems to me that is so inadequate.
thank you for allowing me to vent.:shrug:

Here we go again, a poopular thread. :jester:

TravelGuy believe me. You won't get any sympathy on this board. Like the poster above. When I first moved here I was shocked and disappointed over what I saw all the dog owners doing. I don't care if they pick it up. Why are you letting your dog go on my lawn? Let him go on YOUR lawn. As a poster said it leaves odors. I came to this board back then asking what the rules were. Most were less than sympathetic. This community is over run with dogs. They sure didn't put that in the DVD. A lot choose not to follow rules. I was sitting in the car at one of the postal pickups and watched a woman allow her dog to go in the grass there. She did pick it up, but threw it in the trash can that has a sign not to do so. She knew I saw this, threw her head back, picked up the dog and got into her car. This is never going to go away unless we find a common ground, but the dog owners are in the majority and the rest of us will be railroaded.

[mulligan]

On your lawns, a generous sprinkle of cayenne pepper on a 2 foot strip may do the trick. They'll come as usual to sniff out a spot, but only once.

[Newbeginnings]

I will be moving to The Villages in November, I have 2 small dogs.. I do everything possible to not let my dogs poop or pee on other peoples lawns, sometimes when I am walking them they just can't help it, so I pick it up with my little bags that I carry with me all the time. I knew when I was coming to The Villages that it was dog friendly as I was told by my realtor, but after reading all these poop threads makes me wonder. Are the expectations for everyone to be perfect and our pets? Sorry, but it will never happen with me and my gals, but I sure will try to be responsible and considerate to my neighbors in all aspects of living in the community, we will do our very best but may disappoint a few along the way.

[rubicon]

I have come to believe that this subject is important to rehash. SOON the people who are at fault will change their ways.

Maybe.

OR none of them read this forum...

OR they don't give a poop.

GG: My experience with people who allow dogs a to roam free to discard their refuse or refuse to pick up after their dogs could view this thread in big block letters the size of a protest placard but will ignore it. They are slefish non-caring people just as those litters on cartpaths and highways.barf My comments are harsh but true...and I suspect you could not shame them into complying with such a common courtsey.

[rubicon]

And as an after thought those who post such commentds as here we go again another poop.....apparently are not burden with the problem. and if I am correct then maybe theyu ought to hold back their opinions

[Cisco Kid]

If you google that you will see a great tee shirt

I did not know how to post a photo

[Taltarzac725]

I will be moving to The Villages in November, I have 2 small dogs.. I do everything possible to not let my dogs poop or pee on other peoples lawns, sometimes when I am walking them they just can't help it, so I pick it up with my little bags that I carry with me all the time. I knew when I was coming to The Villages that it was dog friendly as I was told by my realtor, but after reading all these poop threads makes me wonder. Are the expectations for everyone to be perfect and our pets? Sorry, but it will never happen with me and my gals, but I sure will try to be responsible and considerate to my neighbors in all aspects of living in the community, we will do our very best but may disappoint a few along the way.

It seems to depend on the neighborhood and how well you learn to get along with the neighbors.

I have heard from people who live in neighborhoods where they have a lot of problems because of their dogs but it also sounded like there were personality clashes going on there too. It really was not about the dogs but the people who own them as well as people with very low tolerance for other people's space.

Do a little digging with respect to where you want to live in the Villages about their attitudes towards pets.

[Roaddog53]

I have come to believe that this subject is important to rehash. SOON the people who are at fault will change their ways.

Maybe.

OR none of them read this forum...

OR they don't give a poop.

Ahhh but they DO GIVE A POOP!! To everyone else. :rant-rave:
And just think..it will get much worse now with all the snowbirds coming down. Even if you say a small percentage, a small percentage of many more people is more poop. We are going to be..slip sliding away..

[Taltarzac725]

Unalaska police blotter: 'Persistent pooping, peeing pets' perturb people | Alaska Newsreader | ADN.com (http://www.adn.com/2012/07/18/2546610/unalaska-police-blotter-persistent.html)

[gomoho]

I will be moving to The Villages in November, I have 2 small dogs.. I do everything possible to not let my dogs poop or pee on other peoples lawns, sometimes when I am walking them they just can't help it, so I pick it up with my little bags that I carry with me all the time. I knew when I was coming to The Villages that it was dog friendly as I was told by my realtor, but after reading all these poop threads makes me wonder. Are the expectations for everyone to be perfect and our pets? Sorry, but it will never happen with me and my gals, but I sure will try to be responsible and considerate to my neighbors in all aspects of living in the community, we will do our very best but may disappoint a few along the way.

I had the same concerns before we arrived - even thought maybe this wasn't the right place for us with all this carrying on about dog poop. But we bit the bullet and came anyway and are very resonsible with our dogs, just as it sounds like you will be, and have not had a problem. I think as someone posted previously it depends on the neighborhood and the neighbors how this all goes down.

[quirky3]

If you google that you will see a great tee shirt

I did not know how to post a photo
photo :

[ugotme]

Sorry but accidents DO happen!
Personally, I take my dog out in our backyard before taking her for a walk!
I also carry bags - just in case!
It has happened, though very rarely, that even after relieving herself in our own yard, somewhere along the way she may go again! For me - I try to then make her go in the street and then pick it up.
Unfortunately some posters have used the term "All dog owners. . . " That is truly not the case.
There will ALWAYS be a few people who are rude and just don't care.

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID !

[Cisco Kid]

Thanks quirky3
:bowdown:

[Taltarzac725]

That "walks with poop" t-shirt is not something I would wear in the Villages because of the passion of the poop here. Do think the size and number of the dogs matters too. I would much rather have someone with a tea cup Yorkshire terrier pooping and peeing on my hard (this happens on occasion) than someone with three Great Danes. All female too. The females seem more likely to pee all in one spot while the males dribble here and there. Fortunately, there are no Great Danes in the neighborhood at the moment.

[billethkid]

ya can't fix stupid.
It is an exclusive club with members including the poop leavers the speeders the chair savers the line jumpers the cigarette butt tossers and all the other inconsiderates who simply choose not to abide by the rules and common sense that most of us do as a matter of course in daily life.

The good new they are less than 5% of any population.

The bad news is that 5% seems to be all that is ever talked about.

btk

[graciegirl]

ya can't fix stupid.
It is an exclusive club with members including the poop leavers the speeders the chair savers the line jumpers the cigarette butt tossers and all the other inconsiderates who simply choose not to abide by the rules and common sense that most of us do as a matter of course in daily life.

The good new they are less than 5% of any population.

The bad news is that 5% seems to be all that is ever talked about.

btk

AGAIN.....you have correctly and concisely defined the problem.

There appears to be no more facts to gather so in a scientific way we come to the trial conclusion which is...

Take a deep breath and think about all the positive things we enjoy here.

And thank you once again Billy.

Some interesting facts about American pet ownership,,,,http://www.petfinder.com/for-shelters/facts-pet-ownership.html?printer_friendly=1

[Bogie Shooter]

And as an after thought those who post such commentds as here we go again another poop.....apparently are not burden with the problem. and if I am correct then maybe theyu ought to hold back their opinions

Do you really think that those that are "burdened" with problem posting on TOTV will really accomplish anything? Especially when its the same post over and over. And getting the same replies.

[Roaddog53]

Do you really think that those that are "burdened" with problem posting on TOTV will really accomplish anything? Especially when its the same post over and over. And getting the same replies.

I would hope in time that it will accomplish something. Perhaps a solution of some sort or new rules, more monitoring, fines ...who knows. Such as some states and their seat belt and cell phone usage laws, but, if you get caught there are huge fines.
To ignore or give up up on any issue/problem that continues is a defeatist attitude. This world didn't get where it is by everyone giving up. If enough people talk, like they do in think tanks and the like. we use to have brainstorming sessions where no idea was bad just to get more ideas that could possibly be built upon. It worked in most situations.
Maybe a thread could be started with a list of ideas that are added to by everyone. Compiled it may give some thoughts to a viable solution. Just my opinion....
And.. Btw there are many of us that are burdened more than others due to their property where dogs and their lazy, inconsiderate, self-centered, selfish owners use it as their toilet versus other property owners. Sure , their solution is move. Lol

[Bogie Shooter]

I would hope in time that it will accomplish something. Perhaps a solution of some sort or new rules, more monitoring, fines ...who knows. Such as some states and their seat belt and cell phone usage laws, but, if you get caught there are huge fines.
To ignore or give up up on any issue/problem that continues is a defeatist attitude. This world didn't get where it is by everyone giving up. If enough people talk, like they do in think tanks and the like. we use to have brainstorming sessions where no idea was bad just to get more ideas that could possibly be built upon. It worked in most situations.
Maybe a thread could be started with a list of ideas that are added to by everyone. Compiled it may give some thoughts to a viable solution. Just my opinion....
And.. Btw there are many of us that are burdened more than others due to their property where dogs and their lazy, inconsiderate, self-centered, selfish owners use it as their toilet versus other property owners. Sure , their solution is move. Lol

I wish you luck...............

[Barefoot]

This community is over run with dogs. They sure didn't put that in the DVD.

Interesting comment! It's easy to check pet policies on any retirement community under consideration. There are many retirement communities where dogs are prohibited. A lot of communities restrict dogs to "one dog per houshold under 25 lbs". A little research before purchasing would shed light on pet policies. Many people purchase in The Villages because of the liberal dog policy ... "two domestic pets per household, any size". That policy is a "welcome home" beacon for pet lovers, especially those with large dogs. However with 100,000 residents and three very small dogparks, I personally think the Developer needs to provide more dog parks.

Of course dog owners should be respectful and have their dogs eliminate at home. All the pet owners I know carry bags any time they take their dog for a walk. It's incredibly rude to not pick up after your pet. I think we're talking about a very small percentage of people who are disrespectful when it comes to pet elimination.

[Patty55]

TravelGuy believe me. You won't get any sympathy on this board. Like the poster above. When I first moved here I was shocked and disappointed over what I saw all the dog owners doing. I don't care if they pick it up. Why are you letting your dog go on my lawn? Let him go on YOUR lawn. As a poster said it leaves odors. I came to this board back then asking what the rules were. Most were less than sympathetic. This community is over run with dogs. They sure didn't put that in the DVD. A lot choose not to follow rules. I was sitting in the car at one of the postal pickups and watched a woman allow her dog to go in the grass there. She did pick it up, but threw it in the trash can that has a sign not to do so. She knew I saw this, threw her head back, picked up the dog and got into her car. This is never going to go away unless we find a common ground, but the dog owners are in the majority and the rest of us will be railroaded.


:crap2: WHATEVER:crap2:

[gerryann]

In my "prior life" I managed RV resorts. One constant problem was....guess what? DOG POOP! Out of anything that one might complain about, dogs going on ones "property" was always a problem.

In my whole life, I have always picked up after my dogs...even in my own courtyard villa...immediately.

There will always be those that rules dont apply to. But it is a very small percentage who unfortunatly ruin it for others.

[ugotme]

ya can't fix stupid.
It is an exclusive club with members including the poop leavers the speeders the chair savers the line jumpers the cigarette butt tossers and all the other inconsiderates who simply choose not to abide by the rules and common sense that most of us do as a matter of course in daily life.

The good new they are less than 5% of any population.

The bad news is that 5% seems to be all that is ever talked about.

btk

Totally agree!

After all, who is going to start a thread "My neighbor is good - he/she picks up their dog poop."

[Taltarzac725]

Totally agree!

After all, who is going to start a thread "My neighbor is good - he/she picks up their dog poop."

Just picked up some of my dog's pooh and then washed the spot down with a bucket of water as it was a little runny.

Most of my neighbors pick up after their dog as do most of the people I see walking their dog around the area. Once in a while I see someone who has left dog poop in someone's yard and I even may pick it up if I am not already out of bags.

Really do not understand all this wrath about dog poop. Seems there are much more important topics to discuss than this.

[Cisco Kid]

:a20:

[tommy steam]

So....your BIG dog poop gets picked up......that's great!! Well, my LITTLE dog poop gets picked up as well. There is a VERY small percentage of folks that feel that the rules don't apply to them. It's life...and unfortunately it will never change.

Do you think that anyone of that small percent reads any of this ?

[tommy steam]

I will be moving to The Villages in November, I have 2 small dogs.. I do everything possible to not let my dogs poop or pee on other peoples lawns, sometimes when I am walking them they just can't help it, so I pick it up with my little bags that I carry with me all the time. I knew when I was coming to The Villages that it was dog friendly as I was told by my realtor, but after reading all these poop threads makes me wonder. Are the expectations for everyone to be perfect and our pets? Sorry, but it will never happen with me and my gals, but I sure will try to be responsible and considerate to my neighbors in all aspects of living in the community, we will do our very best but may disappoint a few along the way.

IN NY they have signs which say ,curb your dog, which means they go on the street, not on the lawn.

[Taltarzac725]

IN NY they have signs which say ,curb your dog, which means they go on the street, not on the lawn.

Doubt if the Villages' owners would like "Curb Your Dog" signs everywhere. Also do not believe they would put up the dog poop disposal stations placed around the Villages like the one outside PetSmart on 441/27 or the one at Lake Miona County Park. Does not seem to have the aesthetics that the Villages' developer has been going for-- at least in the neighborhoods south of CR466 and some of them sorth of El Camino Real.

[Barefoot]

There will always be those that rules dont apply to. But it is a very small percentage who unfortunatly ruin it for others.


Do you think that anyone of that small percent reads any of this ?

No, I don't think anyone of that small percent of poop offenders reads TOTV. If they did, they wouldn't change their behavior. TOTV is sometimes used as a forum for frustrated people to vent, and that is fine. Unfortunately it sometimes paints a negative picture for newbies and people who are considering moving to TV.

P.S. Most of us love dogs! :doggie::doggie:

[Patty55]

IN NY they have signs which say ,curb your dog, which means they go on the street, not on the lawn.

Actually, back in the day this meant literally poop on the curb, not on the sidewalk, NO POOPER SCOOPING, it was nasty. I don't know where you lived, but we didn't have a "lawn". Now I don't have a curb.

[2BNTV]

Reading this thread curbs my appetite. :jester:

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Sorry to be late to the party - I've been AWOL for a few days.

Help yourselves and pass it around - - - - :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:jester:

Bill :)

[Bogie Shooter]

Sorry to be late to the party - I've been AWOL for a few days.

Help yourselves and pass it around - - - - :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:jester:

Bill :)

50...51 posts and counting.

[PaPaLarry]

Yummy!!!!!!!!!

[notlongnow]

No, I don't think anyone of that small percent of poop offenders reads TOTV. If they did, they wouldn't change their behavior. TOTV is sometimes used as a forum for frustrated people to vent, and that is fine. Unfortunately it sometimes paints a negative picture for newbies and people who are considering moving to TV.

P.S. Most of us love dogs!

I was glad to see this. I was starting to think I can't think about The Villages as my home until my dog dies!
Dogs poop! Some pick it up, some don't. It is not just the villages, it is the whole world.
Seems like a lot of worrying over a small thing. If my dogs lives to move to The Villages I promise to pick up after her.

[ugotme]

I'M JUST TOO POOPED TO POST !


Sorry - I just had too.

[Didiwinbob]

I understand the people that does not want dogs to pee or poop on their property- I get it for the 1,000,000th time. I look forward walking with my dogs. They are my motivation to exercise. Having them relieve themselves before we head out sure. Dogs and bitches mark their territory! Can I try to suppress their instinct as we exercise? No! Darn it all it is grass not your living room floor! Give canines a break. I can put diapers on them but how silly would that be. When they decide they need to pee or poop you will not see me dragging them back to my yard. It just won't happen I will have clean-up supplies and a bottle of water to dilute the urine and if it will make you rest easier I will have a squirt bottle of Otoban so it will take away the smell. So when you see a Shar Pei and a Basset/shar Pei walking alone side a very proud smiling lady with a packpack full of supplies to appease those that continue to go on and on.. Wave and I will be proud to introduce you to my family. I can't introduce you to my human family as they are no longer living. Stop being so mean!!!!


Chris

[ilovetv]

OK. I'm going to address recent posts assuring newcomers that "it depends on the neighbors and neighborhoods". This afternoon, when I swam laps at Laurel Manor sport pool, as I entered there was a man standing in the middle of the lawn around the pool building watching his large dog as it sniffed around looking for the right place to poop/pee. The man just stood there, daydreaming and holding the leash, and following the dog around in the lawn as it snooped around slowly. It was obvious the man thought this was a fine place for a dog dumping ground. When I got into the pool the man was still there, daydreaming as the dog roamed around (on leash). Then, an hour later, as I left the pool building, ANOTHER man and his dog (different breed, so I know it wasn't the same guy as before) were slowly moving around in the lawn there, and obviously the owner was waiting for the dog to do his dooty.

Now. I love dogs and have one, but I don't take our dog to a rec center lawn for it to take a dump and pee on "somebody else's" grass. Maybe these two dog owners picked up the poop, or maybe they didn't. The point is, those rec center or neighborhood pool/postal center lawns are not to be used as dog dumping stations.

[CFrance]

It takes a quart of water to dilute urine enough to prevent killing the grass. One little bottle won't work, especially if you have a marker who's peeing every 50 feet.

Really, a four- or six-foot leash and some training is all that's needed. Use the dog parks to let dogs sniff and mark, not other people's yards.

[Barefoot]

OK. I'm going to address recent posts assuring newcomers that "it depends on the neighbors and neighborhoods". This afternoon, when I swam laps at Laurel Manor sport pool, as I entered there was a man standing in the middle of the lawn around the pool building watching his large dog as it sniffed around looking for the right place to poop/pee. The man just stood there, daydreaming and holding the leash, and following the dog around in the lawn as it snooped around slowly. It was obvious the man thought this was a fine place for a dog dumping ground. When I got into the pool the man was still there, daydreaming as the dog roamed around (on leash). Then, an hour later, as I left the pool building, ANOTHER man and his dog (different breed, so I know it wasn't the same guy as before) were slowly moving around in the lawn there, and obviously the owner was waiting for the dog to do his dooty.

Now. I love dogs and have one, but I don't take our dog to a rec center lawn for it to take a dump and pee on "somebody else's" grass. Maybe these two dog owners picked up the poop, or maybe they didn't. The point is, those rec center or neighborhood pool/postal center lawns are not to be used as dog dumping stations.

This post reaffirms once again, the need for more dog parks in The Villages.

[njbchbum]

I understand the people that does not want dogs to pee or poop on their property- I get it for the 1,000,000th time. I look forward walking with my dogs. They are my motivation to exercise. Having them relieve themselves before we head out sure. Dogs and bitches mark their territory! Can I try to suppress their instinct as we exercise? No! Darn it all it is grass not your living room floor! Give canines a break. I can put diapers on them but how silly would that be. When they decide they need to pee or poop you will not see me dragging them back to my yard. It just won't happen I will have clean-up supplies and a bottle of water to dilute the urine and if it will make you rest easier I will have a squirt bottle of Otoban so it will take away the smell. So when you see a Shar Pei and a Basset/shar Pei walking alone side a very proud smiling lady with a packpack full of supplies to appease those that continue to go on and on.. Wave and I will be proud to introduce you to my family. I can't introduce you to my human family as they are no longer living. Stop being so mean!!!!
Chris

chris - please go back and read post #10 - i must agree with mikers31 - picking up after one's family will always be appreciated - having to watch one's family pee and/or poop while i am dining or enjoying a cocktail on my front facing lanai is really quite disgusting and very much not appreciated. i find the latter actions to be mean to me!

[sueandskip]

I keep waiting for someone to let there dog on my property...I love confrontations:boxing2:,,,,,but they never show !

[ronsroni]

just wondered what other residents think in regard to careless dog owners who allow their pets to run up onto other's lawns, relieve themselves (urine), and on occasion poop and the owners do not pick it up.
we have several 'public areas' on our street (the entrys to villa neighborhoods, which are landscaped and have signs and fences) and the dog owners think that these areas are public toilets for their pooches.

the retractable leashes allow the walker to stay in the street while the dog can go all the way up to the front door and and do their business. really! this is my yard and what are you doing on it? and dog urine can burn patches into the lawn? and what happens when i step into your dog poop? c'mon, give me a break.

if you have discovered a solution to this problem i would love to hear about it. there are only 2 dog parks in all of the villages. seems to me that is so inadequate.
thank you for allowing me to vent.:shrug:
:doggie::doggie:
I am sorry that this is happening and you are right. There are too few dog stations in TV.
BUT...HOWEVER... AS AN ASIDE... there is absolutely NO REASON that a dog should be given free reign to MAKE anywhere his owner deems it necessary. I own 2 dogs. They make the cutest, eensy beensy lil' do do's you have ever slid your bare foot through. Hardly leaves a stain.
Seriously. I would NEVER leave their "BUSINESS" anywhere but in a bag in my hand to go in my garbage in its own container.
But, that's me.
In the dog parks we have these same lazy idiots not picking up or deciding not to carry that bag to the receptacle.... the one they MUST pass in order to get out of the park.
Astounding.
I now yell loudly that YOU LEFT YOUR BAG-O-POOP HERE and have them come back. If they don't, I recall them and handle it another time.
Again, we have shameless, lazy disgusto's in THE VILLAGES also so I am sorry that this is happening. no excuses.
DONT LET THEM WALK AWAY if you see this.
Call them on it... in front of others if you must. No mercy.
Turn your sprinks on. Soak 'em.
Remember one thing. It is NOT the fault of the dog. Dont hate the canine.
Soak the ?HUMAN? but forgive the dog. If you need a backhoe to get rid of the poop, start yelling today. My pups MAKE little ones as they are 12 and 5 pounds respectively.I GUARANTEE they don't poop anywhere unless I allow it. I do not.

[paulandjean]

I keep waiting for someone to let there dog on my property...I love confrontations:boxing2:,,,,,but they never show !

You moved to the right place then.

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/561704-post9.html


Curbing the dog though is probably not the answer unless those that do always clean up their dog's poo on the street. Just imagine the smell in a hot humid garage after a vehicle's tire has picked up considerable fecal matter which has set for a few days.

[Skybo]

Well, after trying to keep my fingers quiet for the past couple of days...here I am...weighing in on this thread as I have on most of the other poop threads. I know people get tired of hearing/reading about it and to an extent I agree with Bogey that posting about it here probably won�t reach most of the offenders. However, I have seen in this thread and other threads, posts from people who try to justify or rationalize their actions, so I know that they are reading and hopefully they will understand what I�m trying to say and possibly rethink their positions.

Barefoot is absolutely correct in assuring new and future residents that in general, TV is very pet friendly. And compared to the thousands of dogs residing here in TV, the poop/pee issue is not a major problem. We just hear a lot about it here because TOTV provides a place to air these discussions. But the fact that it comes up so frequently and generates so many posts is an obvious indication that it is an important issue to many residents.

There are a number of different issues that irritate people ... but I�m going to focus my comments on the topic of trespassing onto other people�s private property. As a dog owner and lover, I am most concerned about this because I know that it is the most prevalent problem, that it is what irks folks the most, and that it is what gives the responsible dog owners in TV a bad rap.

In various threads you read recommendations about turning on sprinklers, putting out cayenne pepper, taking and posting photos, confronting people, etc. And most worrisome to me, as a dog owner, are the discussions about enacting more stringent rules on pet ownership here. Regardless if you pick up after your dog, or if you dilute their urine, or even if you just allow them to walk on the grass to cool their paws or sniff around ... you are doing a disservice to every other dog owner and their dogs in TV.

I don�t care if you have a tiny dog that poops pure gold nuggets, if you allow your dog onto someone else�s property without their permission, that person has a right to feel infringed upon. You can justify it to yourself and others all day long and it will not change the (rightful) feelings of the homeowners who are offended and angered by it. And trust me, pouring some liquid onto their grass (even if it�s just water) isn�t going to make them any happier. In fact, I think it would increase the likelihood of a confrontation.

Please remember that your dog probably isn�t the only one visiting their property on a daily basis. Certain home sites, such as corner lots or those with plantings close to the road, attract more dogs. And the more times a piece of property is marked, the more attractive it is to the next dog walking down the street.

For those who try to infer that they can�t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else�s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren�t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people�s property. It�s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don�t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn�t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I�m imploring you, don�t let your dogs go onto someone else�s property unless you have that homeowner�s permission. Don�t assume that just because you live in a neighborhood with a lot of dogs, that all of the homeowners in that neighborhood don�t care if your dog uses their yard. Just because someone has dogs of their own, it doesn�t mean they are cool with other dogs going into their yard.

All of us dog owners have an obligation to be hyper-vigilant in respecting the rights of others and to ensure that we aren�t irritating or angering our neighbors. I think it's the sense of entitlement that some dog owners have that bothers people as much, if not more, than anything else. We must all do our part to keep TV pet-friendly.

[ilovetv]

For those who try to infer that they can�t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else�s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren�t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people�s property. It�s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don�t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn�t infringe on the property rights of others.

I agree. And regarding the need for more dog parks in TV: Something often seen here is that many dog owners have a dog so big it needs acreage to live and run on, to be fair to the dog. But the owners have an apartment-sized home here. Once the big dog is in dog heaven, it would be a good idea to make the next pup a smaller breed.

[Halle]

Well, after trying to keep my fingers quiet for the past couple of days...here I am...weighing in on this thread as I have on most of the other poop threads. I know people get tired of hearing/reading about it and to an extent I agree with Bogey that posting about it here probably won�t reach most of the offenders. However, I have seen in this thread and other threads, posts from people who try to justify or rationalize their actions, so I know that they are reading and hopefully they will understand what I�m trying to say and possibly rethink their positions.

Barefoot is absolutely correct in assuring new and future residents that in general, TV is very pet friendly. And compared to the thousands of dogs residing here in TV, the poop/pee issue is not a major problem. We just hear a lot about it here because TOTV provides a place to air these discussions. But the fact that it comes up so frequently and generates so many posts is an obvious indication that it is an important issue to many residents.

There are a number of different issues that irritate people ... but I�m going to focus my comments on the topic of trespassing onto other people�s private property. As a dog owner and lover, I am most concerned about this because I know that it is the most prevalent problem, that it is what irks folks the most, and that it is what gives the responsible dog owners in TV a bad rap.

In various threads you read recommendations about turning on sprinklers, putting out cayenne pepper, taking and posting photos, confronting people, etc. And most worrisome to me, as a dog owner, are the discussions about enacting more stringent rules on pet ownership here. Regardless if you pick up after your dog, or if you dilute their urine, or even if you just allow them to walk on the grass to cool their paws or sniff around ... you are doing a disservice to every other dog owner and their dogs in TV.

I don�t care if you have a tiny dog that poops pure gold nuggets, if you allow your dog onto someone else�s property without their permission, that person has a right to feel infringed upon. You can justify it to yourself and others all day long and it will not change the (rightful) feelings of the homeowners who are offended and angered by it. And trust me, pouring some liquid onto their grass (even if it�s just water) isn�t going to make them any happier. In fact, I think it would increase the likelihood of a confrontation.

Please remember that your dog probably isn�t the only one visiting their property on a daily basis. Certain home sites, such as corner lots or those with plantings close to the road, attract more dogs. And the more times a piece of property is marked, the more attractive it is to the next dog walking down the street.

For those who try to infer that they can�t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else�s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren�t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people�s property. It�s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don�t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn�t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I�m imploring you, don�t let your dogs go onto someone else�s property unless you have that homeowner�s permission. Don�t assume that just because you live in a neighborhood with a lot of dogs, that all of the homeowners in that neighborhood don�t care if your dog uses their yard. Just because someone has dogs of their own, it doesn�t mean they are cool with other dogs going into their yard.

All of us dog owners have an obligation to be hyper-vigilant in respecting the rights of others and to ensure that we aren�t irritating or angering our neighbors. I think it's the sense of entitlement that some dog owners have that bothers people as much, if not more, than anything else. We must all do our part to keep TV pet-friendly.

:bigbow:

Thank you! I agree if people would respect their neighbors property and not allow their dogs on their neighbors yard it would go a long way in solving the problem. I own two large dogs and do not allow them on anyones lawn.

I think more dog parks would be great but don't believe it would solve the problem due to people not being willing to drive to a dog park everytime their dogs need to relieve themselves.

:doggie::doggie:

[shcisamax]

People walk on our property all the time to retrieve their golf ball that didn't go where it should. They all know they shouldn't but do... some looking sheepish, some laughing. So although I sympathize with the issues of dogs pooping or peeing on someone's property because it is very annoying and I do feel it is absolutely the owner's responsibility to pick it up pronto, I don't really see that these dog owners are so different from those traipsing across my property. They are blatantly ignoring my space, my private property...and my dog gets agitated when someone comes in close to the house from the rear so starts barking on the patio which of course infringes on my neighbors. But then, I smile and think it simply isn't that important. I think everyone needs to chill.

[CFrance]

Well, after trying to keep my fingers quiet for the past couple of days...here I am...weighing in on this thread as I have on most of the other poop threads. I know people get tired of hearing/reading about it and to an extent I agree with Bogey that posting about it here probably won�t reach most of the offenders. However, I have seen in this thread and other threads, posts from people who try to justify or rationalize their actions, so I know that they are reading and hopefully they will understand what I�m trying to say and possibly rethink their positions.

Barefoot is absolutely correct in assuring new and future residents that in general, TV is very pet friendly. And compared to the thousands of dogs residing here in TV, the poop/pee issue is not a major problem. We just hear a lot about it here because TOTV provides a place to air these discussions. But the fact that it comes up so frequently and generates so many posts is an obvious indication that it is an important issue to many residents.

There are a number of different issues that irritate people ... but I�m going to focus my comments on the topic of trespassing onto other people�s private property. As a dog owner and lover, I am most concerned about this because I know that it is the most prevalent problem, that it is what irks folks the most, and that it is what gives the responsible dog owners in TV a bad rap.

In various threads you read recommendations about turning on sprinklers, putting out cayenne pepper, taking and posting photos, confronting people, etc. And most worrisome to me, as a dog owner, are the discussions about enacting more stringent rules on pet ownership here. Regardless if you pick up after your dog, or if you dilute their urine, or even if you just allow them to walk on the grass to cool their paws or sniff around ... you are doing a disservice to every other dog owner and their dogs in TV.

I don�t care if you have a tiny dog that poops pure gold nuggets, if you allow your dog onto someone else�s property without their permission, that person has a right to feel infringed upon. You can justify it to yourself and others all day long and it will not change the (rightful) feelings of the homeowners who are offended and angered by it. And trust me, pouring some liquid onto their grass (even if it�s just water) isn�t going to make them any happier. In fact, I think it would increase the likelihood of a confrontation.

Please remember that your dog probably isn�t the only one visiting their property on a daily basis. Certain home sites, such as corner lots or those with plantings close to the road, attract more dogs. And the more times a piece of property is marked, the more attractive it is to the next dog walking down the street.

For those who try to infer that they can�t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else�s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren�t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people�s property. It�s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don�t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn�t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I�m imploring you, don�t let your dogs go onto someone else�s property unless you have that homeowner�s permission. Don�t assume that just because you live in a neighborhood with a lot of dogs, that all of the homeowners in that neighborhood don�t care if your dog uses their yard. Just because someone has dogs of their own, it doesn�t mean they are cool with other dogs going into their yard.

All of us dog owners have an obligation to be hyper-vigilant in respecting the rights of others and to ensure that we aren�t irritating or angering our neighbors. I think it's the sense of entitlement that some dog owners have that bothers people as much, if not more, than anything else. We must all do our part to keep TV pet-friendly.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so well stated, it should be a sticky. Thank you, Skybo.

[notlongnow]

Did the people that get so out of shape on this topic have this problem where they lived before. Seems like if you have a dog you need diapers, a power of attorney from each home owner in your neighborhood and maybe a bullet proof vest just in case your dog surprises you and squats with out the owners permission.
When an outsider like me reads this it looks like The Villages is "Florida's Friendliest Retirement Hometown" except for this one little thing.
Geez!

[KeepingItReal]

I understand the people that does not want dogs to pee or poop on their property- I get it for the 1,000,000th time. I look forward walking with my dogs. They are my motivation to exercise. Having them relieve themselves before we head out sure. Dogs and bitches mark their territory! Can I try to suppress their instinct as we exercise? No! Darn it all it is grass not your living room floor! Give canines a break. I can put diapers on them but how silly would that be. When they decide they need to pee or poop you will not see me dragging them back to my yard. It just won't happen I will have clean-up supplies and a bottle of water to dilute the urine and if it will make you rest easier I will have a squirt bottle of Otoban so it will take away the smell. So when you see a Shar Pei and a Basset/shar Pei walking alone side a very proud smiling lady with a packpack full of supplies to appease those that continue to go on and on.. Wave and I will be proud to introduce you to my family. I can't introduce you to my human family as they are no longer living. Stop being so mean!!!!


Chris

Please refer to post number 65. It is an outstanding post!

:bigbow:

[travelguy]

I want to thank the person who posted #65. You said it all and said it great!
Thank you.

[Taltarzac725]

People walk on our property all the time to retrieve their golf ball that didn't go where it should. They all know they shouldn't but do... some looking sheepish, some laughing. So although I sympathize with the issues of dogs pooping or peeing on someone's property because it is very annoying and I do feel it is absolutely the owner's responsibility to pick it up pronto, I don't really see that these dog owners are so different from those traipsing across my property. They are blatantly ignoring my space, my private property...and my dog gets agitated when someone comes in close to the house from the rear so starts barking on the patio which of course infringes on my neighbors. But then, I smile and think it simply isn't that important. I think everyone needs to chill.

Good post. This seems to be at the point where someone is going to call 911 because a dog is pooping or peeing on their property. And, I do not believe that when your dog sees a squirrel, rabbit, or whatever that you are always in control of it. Nor, that you are always in control of it when you are out walking. This does not happen in real life unless you are in a community with front yard fences and neighbors who hate one another and/or are alienated from one another.

[BarryRX]

Well, after trying to keep my fingers quiet for the past couple of days...here I am...weighing in on this thread as I have on most of the other poop threads. I know people get tired of hearing/reading about it and to an extent I agree with Bogey that posting about it here probably won�t reach most of the offenders. However, I have seen in this thread and other threads, posts from people who try to justify or rationalize their actions, so I know that they are reading and hopefully they will understand what I�m trying to say and possibly rethink their positions.

Barefoot is absolutely correct in assuring new and future residents that in general, TV is very pet friendly. And compared to the thousands of dogs residing here in TV, the poop/pee issue is not a major problem. We just hear a lot about it here because TOTV provides a place to air these discussions. But the fact that it comes up so frequently and generates so many posts is an obvious indication that it is an important issue to many residents.

There are a number of different issues that irritate people ... but I�m going to focus my comments on the topic of trespassing onto other people�s private property. As a dog owner and lover, I am most concerned about this because I know that it is the most prevalent problem, that it is what irks folks the most, and that it is what gives the responsible dog owners in TV a bad rap.

In various threads you read recommendations about turning on sprinklers, putting out cayenne pepper, taking and posting photos, confronting people, etc. And most worrisome to me, as a dog owner, are the discussions about enacting more stringent rules on pet ownership here. Regardless if you pick up after your dog, or if you dilute their urine, or even if you just allow them to walk on the grass to cool their paws or sniff around ... you are doing a disservice to every other dog owner and their dogs in TV.

I don�t care if you have a tiny dog that poops pure gold nuggets, if you allow your dog onto someone else�s property without their permission, that person has a right to feel infringed upon. You can justify it to yourself and others all day long and it will not change the (rightful) feelings of the homeowners who are offended and angered by it. And trust me, pouring some liquid onto their grass (even if it�s just water) isn�t going to make them any happier. In fact, I think it would increase the likelihood of a confrontation.

Please remember that your dog probably isn�t the only one visiting their property on a daily basis. Certain home sites, such as corner lots or those with plantings close to the road, attract more dogs. And the more times a piece of property is marked, the more attractive it is to the next dog walking down the street.

For those who try to infer that they can�t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else�s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren�t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people�s property. It�s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don�t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn�t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I�m imploring you, don�t let your dogs go onto someone else�s property unless you have that homeowner�s permission. Don�t assume that just because you live in a neighborhood with a lot of dogs, that all of the homeowners in that neighborhood don�t care if your dog uses their yard. Just because someone has dogs of their own, it doesn�t mean they are cool with other dogs going into their yard.

All of us dog owners have an obligation to be hyper-vigilant in respecting the rights of others and to ensure that we aren�t irritating or angering our neighbors. I think it's the sense of entitlement that some dog owners have that bothers people as much, if not more, than anything else. We must all do our part to keep TV pet-friendly.
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[Didiwinbob]

[QUOTE=KeepingItReal;570923]Please refer to post number 65. It is an outstanding post!

I respect your point of view.

[ilovetv]

]Did the people that get so out of shape on this topic have this problem where they lived before. Seems like if you have a dog you need diapers, a power of attorney[/B] from each home owner in your neighborhood and maybe a bullet proof vest just in case your dog surprises you and squats with out the owners permission.
When an outsider like me reads this it looks like The Villages is "Florida's Friendliest Retirement Hometown" except for this one little thing.
Geez!

Yes, we did have this problem once in awhile in suburban developments in the midwest. But here it is much different, because the population size and density of homes in a neighborhood here concentrates the higher number of dogs being walked in a particular area that has much less grass and often no sidewalks with berms.

One thing that is different with walking the dogs here is that in suburban neighborhoods, we had sidewalks with the grass berm between the sidewalk and the curb. THAT grass between sidewalk and curb is what most dogs used, NOT the lawn between sidewalk and house which belonged to the homeowner.

The problem I see here is that a lot of dog owners seem to think it is cruel or something to make the pavement or sidewalk the dog's only option....like it is cruel to not let the dog have somebody's GRASS to dump/pee on. Our dog goes crazy sniffing the neighbors' grass as we walk her, but we do not ALLOW her to get ONTO others' grass. Pavement or sidewalk is her only option with our hold on the leash, and we clean it up from the pavement and sidewalk so people don't drive or walk poop into their driveway and garage.

Also, many seem to think the grass of their own yard is not enough and so they must go out and look for others' grass to use. I think some ought to think about buying a piece of pasture just outside TV, as their own dog yard.

[KeepingItReal]

[QUOTE=KeepingItReal;570923]Please refer to post number 65. It is an outstanding post!

I respect your point of view.



I also want my yard respected not just my point of view..Post 65 said it all, nothing to add....

[ilangham]

Sometimes you just can't force your pooch to do his business where you would like him to. However whether big or small a responsible pet owner cleans after their pet. No excuses on that one.

[Taltarzac725]

Sometimes you just can't force your pooch to do his business where you would like him to. However whether big or small a responsible pet owner cleans after their pet. No excuses on that one.

Thanks some practical comments on this. I love my dog so I am not going to discipline him so much that I am always in control of him. I am not; but I take my dog to a local dog park just about every morning and also to the postal centers in the late afternoon.

I try to pick up any and all poop he deposits on my and surrounding houses lawns. Or, when walking him when the dog park is not an option that day, I clean up wherever he poops.

I just do not see why some homeowners are intolerant of other home owners who have dogs.

Instead of complaining incessantly on TOTV about dog poop; do something about it and go talk to the dog owner you see with the dog pooping on your yard. Doubt if any of these people actually read TOTV or if they do, they just do not care.

[Mikeod]

Thanks some practical comments on this. I love my dog so I am not going to discipline him so much that I am always in control of him. I am not; but I take my dog to a local dog park just about every morning and also to the postal centers in the late afternoon.

I try to pick up any and all poop he deposits on my and surrounding houses lawns. Or, when walking him when the dog park is not an option that day, I clean up wherever he poops.

I just do not see why some homeowners are intolerant of other home owners who have dogs.

Instead of complaining incessantly on TOTV about dog poop; do something about it and go talk to the dog owner you see with the dog pooping on your yard. Doubt if any of these people actually read TOTV or if they do, they just do not care.
Please re-read post 65. The answers are there.

[Bogie Shooter]

Post 65 should be added to the nuts & bolts section and brought up on every future poop thread.

[Taltarzac725]

Please re-read post 65. The answers are there.

"For those who try to infer that they can’t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else’s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren’t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people’s property. It’s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don’t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn’t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I’m imploring you

Not really. You cannot control a spoiled dog at all times. Many of the dog owners in the Villages treat their dogs like news kids on the block. They are their new children so to speak. They would not be able to control their dogs because these are very pampered pooches.

I have never seen a dog walker in my neighborhood who has complete control of their dog. Police dogs seem to be extremely well disciplined but fortunately I do not see them walking in my area of the Villages. They are also not really pets for the most part.


I do know dog owners in the Villages who have had the misfortune of moving in with neighbors who do not like spoiled pooches. Suppose that is understandable in some cases. My dog is not much of a barker except at prowlers and the occasional feral cat or loose dog. And, I try to pick up after him as much as I can. I try to be a good neighbor while loving my dog.

I have seen pets in baby strollers in the Villages. At least, they poop and pee in the baby stroller.

Whining about it though on TOTV is not going to have much of an impact. There must be 10,000 posts on TOTV about dog poop.

[notlongnow]

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Originally Posted by mikeod
Please re-read post 65. The answers are there.

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"For those who try to infer that they can’t possibly walk their dog down the street without them pooping or marking on someone else’s property, please know this...there are thousands of us who can and do manage to walk our dogs every day through our neighborhoods without trespassing on private property, and we aren’t buying your story. We do it by keeping our dogs on a short leash and not allowing them to walk on other people’s property. It’s very simple. My dogs are attracted to the scents on private grass and landscaping and they want to mark it, but I don’t allow them to. If we are walking for exercise, we stay in the road and we get our exercise. If nature calls and they truly have to go, then they do it in the street and I clean it up. If we are out to just enjoy the day and let dogs be dogs, we do so in an area that doesn’t infringe on the property rights of others.

Please, I’m imploring you

Not really. You cannot control a spoiled dog at all times. Many of the dog owners in the Villages treat their dogs like news kids on the block. They are their new children so to speak. They would not be able to control their dogs because these are very pampered pooches.

I have never seen a dog walker in my neighborhood who has complete control of their dog. Police dogs seem to be extremely well disciplined but fortunately I do not see them walking in my area of the Villages. They are also not really pets for the most part.


I do know dog owners in the Villages who have had the misfortune of moving in with neighbors who do not like spoiled pooches. Suppose that is understandable in some cases. My dog is not much of a barker except at prowlers and the occasional feral cat or loose dog. And, I try to pick up after him as much as I can. I try to be a good neighbor while loving my dog.

I have seen pets in baby strollers in the Villages. At least, they poop and pee in the baby stroller.

Whining about it though on TOTV is not going to have much of an impact. There must be 10,000 posts on TOTV about dog poop.


If only I could live somewhere with such problems!!
It is hard to believe that people really sit around and get themselves so worked up about THIS!
Just ask them to pick up after their dog and in the process you make a friend.
If you did not catch them in the act, mumble to yourself about how bad it is that this happened and then pick it up. Afterwards go play golf, swim, play pickleball, shoot pool, read, take a cart ride, go to the square and eat, sing, dance, go to a gym, or any one of the other hundreds of activities you have in The Villages instead of trying to stamp out the horrible affliction of dog poop!

[njbchbum]

Not really. You cannot control a spoiled dog at all times. Many of the dog owners in the Villages treat their dogs like news kids on the block. They are their new children so to speak. They would not be able to control their dogs because these are very pampered pooches.

I have never seen a dog walker in my neighborhood who has complete control of their dog. Police dogs seem to be extremely well disciplined but fortunately I do not see them walking in my area of the Villages. They are also not really pets for the most part.


I do know dog owners in the Villages who have had the misfortune of moving in with neighbors who do not like spoiled pooches. Suppose that is understandable in some cases. My dog is not much of a barker except at prowlers and the occasional feral cat or loose dog. And, I try to pick up after him as much as I can. I try to be a good neighbor while loving my dog.

I have seen pets in baby strollers in the Villages. At least, they poop and pee in the baby stroller.

Whining about it though on TOTV is not going to have much of an impact. There must be 10,000 posts on TOTV about dog poop.

it is NOT the dogs that are spoiled and which cannot control their bodily functions - it is their owners who are spoiled and have no respect for others and their property that is the source of the dog poop problem in the villages!

[shcisamax]

If only I could live somewhere with such problems!!
It is hard to believe that people really sit around and get themselves so worked up about THIS!
Just ask them to pick up after their dog and in the process you make a friend.
If you did not catch them in the act, mumble to yourself about how bad it is that this happened and then pick it up. Afterwards go play golf, swim, play pickleball, shoot pool, read, take a cart ride, go to the square and eat, sing, dance, go to a gym, or any one of the other hundreds of activities you have in The Villages instead of trying to stamp out the horrible affliction of dog poop!

:bigbow:

[ajbrown]

Many threads on TOTV have the same basic theme as this one, e.g., saving chairs, barking dogs, slow play on golf courses, etc. People are doing something that bothers the cr*p out of other people. In all cases I do my best to believe the person taking the offensive action does not know it is bothering someone else. Maybe where they are from this is normal or acceptable behavior.

What I find unreasonable is when people do know that it bothers other people and still do nothing about it. It is an attitude that says, I know your opinion, I know my action bothers you and I simply do not care enough to do something about it.

This is great community indeed, but it is close quarters where respect for each other should be a high priority. Why is it that the person being bothered by the action of another is the one that should ‘lighten up’? If I find out something I am doing bothers someone else (see note 1), I do my best to look at what I am doing and adapt if they have a reasonable position.

Note 1: I suspect this will not include posting on TOTV :1rotfl:

[Patty55]

If only I could live somewhere with such problems!!
It is hard to believe that people really sit around and get themselves so worked up about THIS!
Just ask them to pick up after their dog and in the process you make a friend.
If you did not catch them in the act, mumble to yourself about how bad it is that this happened and then pick it up. Afterwards go play golf, swim, play pickleball, shoot pool, read, take a cart ride, go to the square and eat, sing, dance, go to a gym, or any one of the other hundreds of activities you have in The Villages instead of trying to stamp out the horrible affliction of dog poop!

I think that people try to control what they think they can. Maybe they're not so happy, maybe this place isn't all that, maybe they're having health issues or just plain scared. So, you pick an easy target ... the dogs rather than address the real problem.

Then again, they could just be cranky from birth. I'll bet their children helped them pack.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A DOG PROBLEM.

[pooh]

Post 65 should be added to the nuts & bolts section and brought up on every future poop thread.

I agree.... :)

[ilovetv]

If only I could live somewhere with such problems!!
It is hard to believe that people really sit around and get themselves so worked up about THIS!
Just ask them to pick up after their dog and in the process you make a friend.
If you did not catch them in the act, mumble to yourself about how bad it is that this happened and then pick it up. Afterwards go play golf, swim, play pickleball, shoot pool, read, take a cart ride, go to the square and eat, sing, dance, go to a gym, or any one of the other hundreds of activities you have in The Villages instead of trying to stamp out the horrible affliction of dog poop!

I think that really, it's not about the poop as much as it is about more and more people in society being disrespectful of other people and their property.

From what I've seen, more people are completely shameless about how they mess up and leave another's property. Talk to department store clerks who find expensive clothing left in wads on the floors of the dressing rooms. Ask them if people use the dressing room floor as a toilet. And I'm not talking about asking these questions at Big Lots or Walmart. Ask workers at Macy's, Dillards, and at the nice outlet malls about what they find in the dressing rooms, or if people return merchandise that's not only been worn, but have stains in the private areas. People can be worse behaved than dogs.

It think it's more about the disrespectful dog owners, and commenters here are appealing to the person's intellect, reason and remnant of a sense of shame, which dogs don't have.

[MDLNB]

On your lawns, a generous sprinkle of cayenne pepper on a 2 foot strip may do the trick. They'll come as usual to sniff out a spot, but only once.

I was going to suggest the exact same remedy. And I am a dog lover. Used to train them in the Marines.

[Taltarzac725]

If only I could live somewhere with such problems!!
It is hard to believe that people really sit around and get themselves so worked up about THIS!
Just ask them to pick up after their dog and in the process you make a friend.
If you did not catch them in the act, mumble to yourself about how bad it is that this happened and then pick it up. Afterwards go play golf, swim, play pickleball, shoot pool, read, take a cart ride, go to the square and eat, sing, dance, go to a gym, or any one of the other hundreds of activities you have in The Villages instead of trying to stamp out the horrible affliction of dog poop!

Good post. Seems like a bunch of fart and fury about next to nothing. Until you step in it that is. I step in dog poop probably every other week while at Doggie Doo Run Run (DDRR) because of poop that no one has flagged. At DDRR you are supposed to mark you dog's poop with flags. Many times people are too busy socializing at the dog park to even mark the poo, or their eyesight is bad, or they have trouble getting around.

I know people who take their dogs twice a day to DDRR because that's where the dog(s) has learned to do its business.

Even heard of dogs which when on trips will wait up to three days or so to poop just because they are so trained to poop at DDRR rather than any where else.

However, there is so much that is good about the Villages; cannot understand why this topic gets so much vitriol.

[ugotme]

Hopefully this is the worst kind of thread we have.

I would hate to read a thread about something horrific - break-ins, rapes etc.
I may not like it, it may annoy me but - I can deal with POOP !

[Taltarzac725]

Hopefully this is the worst kind of thread we have.

I would hate to read a thread about something horrific - break-ins, rapes etc.
I may not like it, it may annoy me but - I can deal with POOP !

That's true.

[Peachie]

Good post. Seems like a bunch of fart and fury about next to nothing. Until you step in it that is. I step in dog poop probably every other week while at Doggie Doo Run Run (DDRR) because of poop that no one has flagged. At DDRR you are supposed to mark you dog's poop with flags. Many times people are too busy socializing at the dog park to even mark the poo, or their eyesight is bad, or they have trouble getting around.

I know people who take their dogs twice a day to DDRR because that's where the dog(s) has learned to do its business.

Even heard of dogs which when on trips will wait up to three days or so to poop just because they are so trained to poop at DDRR rather than any where else.

However, there is so much that is good about the Villages; cannot understand why this topic gets so much vitriol.


Tal, even with your eloquent vocabulary, I don't think you're going to convince people that trespassing on their lawns is okay. It's not, see post #65.

If anyone is unable to control their dogs while walking them, they shouldn't take them out of their yards. Dog walkers, keep your dogs in the street with a short leash and respect your neighbor's property. In all of the years we had a dog, they were never allowed to roam on a lawn other than ours.

Kudos to you, Tal, for taking your pet to the dog park so often and I do wish there were more dog park areas planned around The Villages for owners. But it is disgusting to be sitting at the kitchen table enjoying a meal and have a lazy pet owner allow their pet on our lawn to do their business. It does amaze me that the perps are willing to diminish or dismiss this as a non-issue but then again, perhaps they don't own a corner lot.

[Tom Grooms]

I am SHOCKED that some people assume it's all good to allow their dog on someones property. Let alone going #1 or #2.

Attn Dog owners: Do not think for 1 second you love your dog(s) more than I love my lawn. It is NEVER alright for your dog(s) to even put one paw on my turf.

Keep you dogs on the street/sidewalk/mulit-modal paths etc. I dont cut, trim, fertilize, dethach, spray insecticide or fungicide, aerate or irrigate the streets. Do what you want on your own property.

And if you want to be a good neighbor, assume every home owner feels the same way.

(another victim / "corner lot" owner)

[Barefoot]

Once the big dog is in dog heaven, it would be a good idea to make the next pup a smaller breed.

:ohdear: There is a huge private ten-acre dog park which is minutes away from the heart of The Villages. Our big dog spends an hour every day romping and playing with other big dogs. It isn't necessary to have an acreage to exercise a big dog.

[Moderator]

Discussion getting too personal.

Thread closed.