Why do people walk their dogs at the mailboxes?????

[wynnshanks]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

[Boudicca]

I take my little Yorkie as he loves to read the "pee mails"......... BTW, I ALWAYS pick up if he should make a deposit...........

[Patty55]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

I think they do it because they want to, and they can.

[shcisamax]

Oooh. I foresee a poop thread in the near future.

[Bogie Shooter]

Oh my, another one!

[ilovetv]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

They do it because they "can't" do what you and I do, which is keep the dog in the golf cart and have them unload in our own yard or on the pavement/sidewalk where we pick it up.

Maybe you've missed it, but linked below is the most recent discussion of this topic. You'll see lots of excuses for using somebody else's grass, but post #65 on the thread speaks well to the problem and will confirm that you are not a lone "queen of mean"......

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/dog-poop-62512/

[janmcn]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

Because there's no other grassy area to walk dogs that doesn't involve someone's lawn?

[Patty55]

How do you know they didn't do their thing at home before going out to socialize?

YOU ALL NEED TO GET OVER IT.

[Barefoot]

Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

Because there aren't enough dog parks in TV. Only three small dog parks for thousands and thousands of dogs.

[Skybo]

Maybe you've missed it, but linked below is the most recent discussion of this topic. You'll see lots of excuses for using somebody else's grass, but post #65 on the thread speaks well to the problem and will confirm that you are not a lone "queen of mean"......

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/dog-poop-62512/

Whoa, hold on. I was the author of “post 65” in the other thread and my comments were specifically about private property. I believe that people have the right to take their dogs to any public area in The Villages where dogs are allowed. Please don’t confuse the two issues.

[hotrodgirl]

I don't live there quite yet, but close soon. I believe my mailboxes are approximately 1/2 mile from my house. My dogs are used to a 2 or 3 mile walk either 2 or 3 times per day, and almost all my neighbors also have dogs at my home near Chicago. We don't seem to have such animosity here, and when in TV I still intend to take those walks. I would never ever neglect to pick up after my animals however, and discard their waste in a special can at my home. My neighbors dogs will be welcome to visit! But most likely my pups will be with me when I walk to get my mail...

[ilovetv]

Because there aren't enough dog parks in TV. Only three small dog parks for thousands and thousands of dogs.

But every dog here has a yard of its own to use.

[Patty55]

You know, it's a shame the OP didn't realize this before she moved here, she could have avoided her "confusion".

NEXT....:girlneener:

[Skybo]

One of the things that I enjoy the most about The Villages is that there are so many places where dogs are allowed to go. I take my dogs to the squares (when it’s not crowded), for walks in the many public “green” areas (which include areas around my neighborhood pool and postal area) and I’ve even taken them to watch a polo match (we sat in the cart). Dogs need to see more of the world than their own yard. They need it for mental stimulation and socialization. Dog parks are good for fenced-in exercise areas and socialization, but there are too few of them, and not all dogs do well in that environment. To the best of my knowledge, the only outdoor public place where dogs are not allowed is the park by Mission Hills. As long as TV doesn't have a rule against it, then people have a right to take their dogs there.

[graciegirl]

Oh s**t.

[Love2cruise]

Ya know what I don't understand? There are numerous post about dogs and yet I haven't seen one about people who let there cats out to wander the neighborhood at night and use our lawns to do their business. Cats don't carry plastic bags and pick up after themselves, like the majority of dog owners do. So if you find a deposit on your lawn why do you assume it's a dog and not a cat? Many cats use the outdoors and our lawns to do their business. I guess the only difference is cats go,out at night on their own, no one sees them, so lets blame all the dogs.

[perrjojo]

Hmmmmm...why not walk your dog at the mail box?

[gerryann]

If one ALWAYS pick up after their pup, what is the problem with letting them come along for a walk or ride to pick up the mail??? I don't get the problem.

If someone has a problem with dogs here in the villages...why move here in the first place? I think everyone knows that TV is full of LOTS of dogs!!

[gomoho]

There are people in TV that think dogs should only, always, and forever do their business in their own yard. I agree - when possible works out nicely and never, ever on someone's private property. But if a dog is lucky enough to have an owner willing to walk him and he/she happens to need to potty when they stop for the mail - SO WHAT. As long as the owner picks up quit your complaining. I am tired of all this beating up about where dogs go - yep there are some that won't pick up and no matter how many times people complain it won't change - so please stop it already. Thanks I feel better now. :rant-rave:

[gerryann]

There are people in TV that think dogs should only, always, and forever do their business in their own yard. I agree - when possible works out nicely and never, ever on someone's private property. But if a dog is lucky enough to have an owner willing to walk him and he/she happens to need to potty when they stop for the mail - SO WHAT. As long as the owner picks up quit your complaining. I am tired of all this beating up about where dogs go - yep there are some that won't pick up and no matter how many times people complain it won't change - so please stop it already. Thanks I feel better now. :rant-rave:

I agree!!

However, if all of the complaining is done here on TOTV, then I have no problem with the complaints. I know I personally have never had a complaint when I'm out with my pups.....only here on TOTV. I guess folks just have the ba..s on a forum when no one knows who you are. So...complain away. As gomoho said...it's not gonna change.

[ilovetv]

Hmmmmm...why not walk your dog at the mail box?

It's not that dogs shouldn't be walked to the mail box....it's that often people don't pick up around there, and there have been problems with the disposal of the doo doo into the trash cans there, as discussed at length here:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/rdog-responsible-dog-owners-group-159/dog-feces-disposal-request-group-action-58909/

[Bogie Shooter]

Because there aren't enough dog parks in TV. Only three small dog parks for thousands and thousands of dogs.

Maybe too many dogs??

[gerryann]

Maybe too many dogs??

Quite possible....but they're here, and they aren't going anywhere...

[Didiwinbob]

Ditto to Patty55's comment!
Why is this such a frequent thread? Why do the pickleball players start so early? Why not provide additional "areas" to allow dogs and their owners walk on paths that nondog owners are not allowed to walk? There are plenty of green areas for dog paths?


Chris

[graciegirl]

Maybe too many dogs??


BOGIE!!!! Do you value your life and limbs?

A statement like that could get you um....booed and tattooed.

Wazza matta you? : ;):confused:

[Didiwinbob]

Well said Hotrodgirl!


Chris

[Bogie Shooter]

BOGIE!!!! Do you value your life and limbs?

A statement like that could get you um....booed and tattooed.

Wazza matta you? : ;):confused:

I callism the way I seeism.......................

[Didiwinbob]

Ilovetv
This is like saying, every person has a home, yard, lani, why do you ever have to leave your abod? Dog owners like being out enjoying TV with their canine companions--


Chris

[LSTOWELL]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????



the question is "why not"

[CFrance]

My dog doesn't like to go for walks. He thinks they're forced marches. Too much running around free on a dog beach, growing up.

But nothing makes him happier than moseying on down to the mailboxes for a good sniff around. This could take a half hour. He looooooooooves to sniff where other dogs have been, and there's a high concentration of scent around the mailbox areas. Fortunately, he''s not a marker, so he's not killing any grass or plants.

I see nothing wrong with walking down to the mailboxes with him for a proper sniff, and nobody's going to convince me otherwise.

[Bosoxfan]

Because there aren't enough dog parks in TV. Only three small dog parks for thousands and thousands of dogs.
I take Bonyta to the dog park behind the fire station everyday around 3 or 4 in the afternoon & we're almost always the only one's there.On our way back we stop for the mail & it never fails that there are at least 2 or more dogs there.:shrug: Is the dog park too inconvenient ( 10 minutes away by golf cart)

[Bosoxfan]

My dog doesn't like to go for walks. He thinks they're forced marches. Too much running around free on a dog beach, growing up.

But nothing makes him happier than moseying on down to the mailboxes for a good sniff around. This could take a half hour. He looooooooooves to sniff where other dogs have been, and there's a high concentration of scent around the mailbox areas. Fortunately, he''s not a marker, so he's not killing any grass or plants.

I see nothing wrong with walking down to the mailboxes with him for a proper sniff, and nobody's going to convince me otherwise.

Why not take him to the DOG parks!!:shrug:

[CFrance]

I take Bonyta to the dog park behind the fire station everyday around 3 or 4 in the afternoon & we're almost always the only one's there.On our way back we stop for the mail & it never fails that there are at least 2 or more dogs there.:shrug: Is the dog park too inconvenient ( 10 minutes away by golf cart)

The big-dog part of that park has a lot of dirt instead of grass, and our dog is a long-haired dirt magnet. And my mail isn't there, and we can't walk to it.

[CFrance]

The big-dog part of that park has a lot of dirt instead of grass, and our dog is a long-haired dirt magnet. And my mail isn't there, and we can't walk to it.

Plus, we don't have a golf cart. (There. I said it.)

[Barefoot]

... If a dog is lucky enough to have an owner willing to walk him and he/she happens to need to potty when they stop for the mail - SO WHAT. As long as the owner picks up quit your complaining. I am tired of all this beating up about where dogs go - yep there are some that won't pick up and no matter how many times people complain it won't change - so please stop it already. Thanks I feel better now.

Gomoho, just reading your post makes me feel better too. There will never be agreement on this subject, except on the fact that only really bad people would fail to pick up their dog's doo, and none of the bad people are members of TOTV anyway.

[hotrodgirl]

Unfortunately not every dog does well in that type of setting. Many years ago my JRT was attacked here on our street by dog who got loose. Now she can be rather defensive dependent upon posturing of other pets. So it is necessary for us to stay clear:confused: Sure wish we could make use of the park though! Once she sees another dog several times she is fine, but those first few meetings may not go too well! Too bad for us:sigh:Cause she's such a sweetheart!

[PaPaLarry]

There is a part of this thread that hasn't been mentioned??? Maybe the owner needs a walk, and not the dog!!!! Doggie just goes along for company and friendship!! hehehehe Just hope the owner doesn't do there Doo Doo without having a baggie!! OK I think we spent enough time on Dog Poop!! Have a nice Day!!:confused::bigbow::a040::1rotfl::BigApplause:

[Taltarzac725]

Because there's no other grassy area to walk dogs that doesn't involve someone's lawn?

Nice post. Know a lot of people who take their pooches to the mail centers. They for the most part pick up after their dogs.

People should remember that there are alligators near many of the areas in the deep Southern States (Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana) where you would normally walk dogs. Like near ponds and lakes. Gators do take a bite out of the opportunities available for dog walking, swimming, etc.

[cbg150]

I don't live there quite yet, but close soon. I believe my mailboxes are approximately 1/2 mile from my house. My dogs are used to a 2 or 3 mile walk either 2 or 3 times per day, and almost all my neighbors also have dogs at my home near Chicago. We don't seem to have such animosity here, and when in TV I still intend to take those walks. I would never ever neglect to pick up after my animals however, and discard their waste in a special can at my home. My neighbors dogs will be welcome to visit! But most likely my pups will be with me when I walk to get my mail...

Dogs need to walk...a daily trip to the mailbox sounds like a good idea to me! (I have been picking up after my dogs for almost 30 years in NYC and I intend to do so in the Villages also when I get down there! I too despise people who don't pick up after their dogs...it is particularly unsanitary for the dogs themselves!)

[Taltarzac725]

Ya know what I don't understand? There are numerous post about dogs and yet I haven't seen one about people who let there cats out to wander the neighborhood at night and use our lawns to do their business. Cats don't carry plastic bags and pick up after themselves, like the majority of dog owners do. So if you find a deposit on your lawn why do you assume it's a dog and not a cat? Many cats use the outdoors and our lawns to do their business. I guess the only difference is cats go,out at night on their own, no one sees them, so lets blame all the dogs.

We have a group of feral cats in our neighborhood. They do poop in the woods, so to speak. And on the lawns. Their poop is quite different from that of a dogs. Easy to recognize if you have ever cleaned out a kitty litter. We also get rabbit, duck, possum, and bird poop. Probably lizard poop as well.

[paulandjean]

I take Bonyta to the dog park behind the fire station everyday around 3 or 4 in the afternoon & we're almost always the only one's there.On our way back we stop for the mail & it never fails that there are at least 2 or more dogs there.:shrug: Is the dog park too inconvenient ( 10 minutes away by golf cart)

And yet people say we need another dog park.Nobody there between 3 and 4 good to know that for future debate.Enough talk of more dog parks.

[graciegirl]

Ya know what I don't understand? There are numerous post about dogs and yet I haven't seen one about people who let there cats out to wander the neighborhood at night and use our lawns to do their business. Cats don't carry plastic bags and pick up after themselves, like the majority of dog owners do. So if you find a deposit on your lawn why do you assume it's a dog and not a cat? Many cats use the outdoors and our lawns to do their business. I guess the only difference is cats go,out at night on their own, no one sees them, so lets blame all the dogs.

You're kiddin' right?

We cat people love our animals and wouldn't; A. let them out of the house, and B, break the rules. I haven't seen any cats running free except the feral cats around Havana.

Cats aren't allowed to be out without a leash or in a stroller and I am seen both, once.

Plus um...cats dig and bury.

[Finallyfree]

Lots of indoor/outdoor cats in our neighborhood (ours is indoor only); I worry about that due to the water near us. Hope no kitties go missing come mating season.

[JoeC1947]

It's time for you people to wake up. Can't you see what's going on here? Dogs are using mind control on their "owners" (Who really owns who?). Dogs have been sent here from another planet to colonize earth. They are leaving their mark (A form of lojack) so that their doggy army can hone in on us. If we humans don't pick up after them the doggy army will find us sooner. Please don't make it easier for them. I WANT TO LIVE!

[Taltarzac725]

And yet people say we need another dog park.Nobody there between 3 and 4 good to know that for future debate.Enough talk of more dog parks.

Talked to a lot of people who have visited the Bonita Dog Park. It is a very difficult dog park to use for small dog owners as it is on a steep incline and you have to watch out for the poop that has not been picked up in many places on the hill while also trying to keep track of where you own pooch is going.

Seems better for larger dogs as that area is a little bigger and it is also not so hilly.

They seemed to make land that would not be good for anything else into a dog park. Not a good plan for the dogs. The two other Villages dog parks are OK. Doggie Doo Run Run though is so much better than any Villages dog park.

[Taltarzac725]

It's time for you people to wake up. Can't you see what's going on here? Dogs are using mind control on their "owners" (Who really owns who?). Dogs have been sent here from another planet to colonize earth. They are leaving their mark (A form of lojack) so that their doggy army can hone in on us. If we humans don't pick up after them the doggy army will find us sooner. Please don't make it easier for them. I WANT TO LIVE!

Sounds like a movie I saw. :a20:

Of course, the cats were not too happy with the whole situaton.

[Patty55]

Talked to a lot of people who have visited the Bonita Dog Park. It is a very difficult dog park to use for small dog owners as it is on a steep incline and you have to watch out for the poop that has not been picked up in many places on the hill while also trying to keep track of where you own pooch is going.

Seems better for larger dogs as that area is a little bigger and it is also not so hilly.

They seemed to make land that would not be good for anything else into a dog park. Not a good plan for the dogs. The two other Villages dog parks are OK. Doggie Doo Run Run though is so much better than any Villages dog park.

If that's the one by the fire house, I go there. Yeah, it's a bit hilly but I like that there is shade. People for the most part do pick up after their dogs. I think it's as much for the people to hang out as the dogs. Nice group of people, nice group of dogs.

[NIPAS K-9]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

Sounds like they think that is a dog dumping station . :rant-rave:

[blaZen]

Rats!!!!..............That's another place we can't take our poop eatin' Puggle.:rant-rave:

[Patty55]

Sounds like they think that is a dog dumping station . :rant-rave:

Not at all, just another podunk implant incapable of minding her own business.

[njbchbum]

Dogs need to walk...a daily trip to the mailbox sounds like a good idea to me! (I have been picking up after my dogs for almost 30 years in NYC and I intend to do so in the Villages also when I get down there! I too despise people who don't pick up after their dogs...it is particularly unsanitary for the dogs themselves!)

i despise the dog walkers who allow their pet to take a dump in front of me when i am enjoying my dining/drinking on the lanai - watching them pick up the dump is equally disgusting. makes me want to vomit and ruins a perfectly good cocktail/meal!

[Geewiz]

Another argument why cats rule and dogs drool. Rada, the Siberian wondercat, sticks to e-mail. She walks all over my keyboard, sending pithy missives to friends and foes, alike.

Here is her typed comment on this thread...."Beware of the tautology of internal validation when you are dealing with an animal who greets friends by sniffing their privates."

[Patty55]

i despise the dog walkers who allow their pet to take a dump in front of me when i am enjoying my dining/drinking on the lanai - watching them pick up the dump is equally disgusting. makes me want to vomit and ruins a perfectly good cocktail/meal!

When I was growing up I would get disgusted watching dogs "being curbed", most days I vomitted and didn't make it to school. My mother told me "Don't look!". Worked then, works now.

[Bonnevie]

And yet people say we need another dog park.Nobody there between 3 and 4 good to know that for future debate.Enough talk of more dog parks.

I'm not living there yet, but intend to. When I was there for the preview I went to that dog park. I have to tell you it is pretty pathetic compared to the one at our county park I go to here. That park for small dogs is on a steep incline and there's large patches of dirt. I wondered why a few bags of mulch couldn't be put down. It's only open certain hours of the day. I know because another dog owner and I showed up when it was closed. I was really surprised that the park wasn't better given the level of quality of everything else at TV. I also went to one that was above 466 I think near the historic area, and that was worse. Almost all dirt. I was extremely disappointed. I did not get to Doggy Do Run but hope to see it next time I'm there and I'm willing to pay that fee. Still, if dog owners are a significant percentage of the population, then why can't a decent dog park be a priority?


I am just as outraged as anyone else if I find other dogs droppings in my yard. I would never do that. However, I'm amazed at the concern about pee. My dogs do the most before they leave our yard on our walks but like to smell where other dogs are and deposit a drop. Even my current neighbor who prizes his lawn above all things doesn't get upset if he sees one of them lift a leg because he knows the amount is minimal and won't harm it.

[gerryann]

I'm not living there yet, but intend to. When I was there for the preview I went to that dog park. I have to tell you it is pretty pathetic compared to the one at our county park I go to here. That park for small dogs is on a steep incline and there's large patches of dirt. I wondered why a few bags of mulch couldn't be put down. It's only open certain hours of the day. I know because another dog owner and I showed up when it was closed. I was really surprised that the park wasn't better given the level of quality of everything else at TV. I also went to one that was above 466 I think near the historic area, and that was worse. Almost all dirt. I was extremely disappointed. I did not get to Doggy Do Run but hope to see it next time I'm there and I'm willing to pay that fee. Still, if dog owners are a significant percentage of the population, then why can't a decent dog park be a priority?


I am just as outraged as anyone else if I find other dogs droppings in my yard. I would never do that. However, I'm amazed at the concern about pee. My dogs do the most before they leave our yard on our walks but like to smell where other dogs are and deposit a drop. Even my current neighbor who prizes his lawn above all things doesn't get upset if he sees one of them lift a leg because he knows the amount is minimal and won't harm it.

Very good post. It's really crazy that there are so few decent dog parks.

i despise the dog walkers who allow their pet to take a dump in front of me when i am enjoying my dining/drinking on the lanai - watching them pick up the dump is equally disgusting. makes me want to vomit and ruins a perfectly good cocktail/meal!

I would be concerned if I had this severe of a reaction to my fellow neighbors.....just saying.....

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Glad I don't have....................................a dog in this fight! :shocked:

:jester:

Bill :wave:

[graciegirl]

I'm not living there yet, but intend to. When I was there for the preview I went to that dog park. I have to tell you it is pretty pathetic compared to the one at our county park I go to here. That park for small dogs is on a steep incline and there's large patches of dirt. I wondered why a few bags of mulch couldn't be put down. It's only open certain hours of the day. I know because another dog owner and I showed up when it was closed. I was really surprised that the park wasn't better given the level of quality of everything else at TV. I also went to one that was above 466 I think near the historic area, and that was worse. Almost all dirt. I was extremely disappointed. I did not get to Doggy Do Run but hope to see it next time I'm there and I'm willing to pay that fee. Still, if dog owners are a significant percentage of the population, then why can't a decent dog park be a priority?


I am just as outraged as anyone else if I find other dogs droppings in my yard. I would never do that. However, I'm amazed at the concern about pee. My dogs do the most before they leave our yard on our walks but like to smell where other dogs are and deposit a drop. Even my current neighbor who prizes his lawn above all things doesn't get upset if he sees one of them lift a leg because he knows the amount is minimal and won't harm it.

I think the answer to your question about a decent dog park being a priorty is that "they" do not have to change anything to be enormously successful selling homes here. I have to point out that how it is, is how it will be so please don't come with the hopes of changing anything and then be disappointed. This isn't anything like what most of us are used to in our lives up until now. It is a CDD form of government and we don't vote. We can suggest.

It seems that opening a dog park closeby is a good business opportunity for someone. And an indoor pool and a fitness center.

But...would a person get into their car or cart and go to a dog park? Some would, Some would not. It would have to be maintained and overseen. That wouldn't be free. It is just like adding any program or good thing. Someone has to pay for it.

[janmcn]

Dog parks are not profitable, but squeezing as many new homes as possible into a small parcel of land is very profitable. It's all about the bottom line. Also, don't expect to see more softball fields or bowling alleys, IMO.

[Bogie Shooter]

Dog parks are not profitable, but squeezing as many new homes as possible into a small parcel of land is very profitable. It's all about the bottom line. Also, don't expect to see more softball fields or bowling alleys, IMO.

Bowling alleys (lanes) are privatly owned.

[Madelaine Amee]

I'm confused.....I own a dog, and yes she loves to ride to the mailbox with me. But every time I go, there are at least 2 to 4 or more people walking their dogs all around the grounds.
They are back and forth around the shuffleboard courts and I never see them there to pick up mail. Why must they come there to walk their dogs......anybody?????

My other half always walked our dog to the mail box area first thing in the morning, met all his dog owner friends, they stood around talking while the dogs did their thing, then he would walk back. It's a conversational thing ............
He loved it, she loved it and everyone was happy.

[skyguy79]

Glad I don't have....................................a dog in this fight! :shocked:

:jester:

Bill :wave:I don't either but it doesn't seriously bother me when an owner permits their dog to walk partially or the entire length of my property on the grass. This does happen every day, several times a day, but I am thankful that I haven't seen a single incident where they (the owner, not the dog) failed to bag it to go! That includes two neighbors lawns that I can see from my den where we spend most of our time.

However, there is one woman and doggie that passes by every day that grates me a bit because she's let her little darln' walk the entire length of our lawn and take it's dump on the same spot. This has happened at least a couple of time that I've noticed, possibly more, and I can look out at that spot as I type this message and see that the spot I'm talkn' about is browner that the rest of the lawn.
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Having said this, I still wouldn't hesitate to scratch their backs or pat their little heads any chance I get!

p.s. I forgot to mention that there is a good stretch of grassy Villages property just one property length away where the dogs could do their business without imposing on any of our residential properties. I guess it's not as much fun for the owners to let them go there, even if they do walk right by it.

[njbchbum]

Very good post. It's really crazy that there are so few decent dog parks.



I would be concerned if I had this severe of a reaction to my fellow neighbors.....just saying.....

gerryann - i don't react that way to my neighbors - just to dogs taking a dump in front of me. of course, have never been very good at holding someone's head over the toilet bowl when they are hurling either! ;)

[Bonnevie]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;572197]I think the answer to your question about a decent dog park being a priorty is that "they" do not have to change anything to be enormously successful selling homes here. I have to point out that how it is, is how it will be so please don't come with the hopes of changing anything and then be disappointed. This isn't anything like what most of us are used to in our lives up until now. It is a CDD form of government and we don't vote. We can suggest.

I realize that. Actually, I thought if I lived there I'd probably buy a couple of bags of mulch and put it on the dirt area of the small dog park myself.

I'm less concerned about the lack of better dog parks than some of the hostile remarks about dogs. Finding it disgusting to see someone clean up after their dog? I was looking forward to moving to a place where I wouldn't have to "sweat the small stuff". Again, like most responsible dog owners, I am very careful about making sure my dogs don't interfere with others enjoyment but I personally love to meet other people's dogs and see them about. Oh, well, at least it convinced me of the need for a CYV.

[njbchbum]

When I was growing up I would get disgusted watching dogs "being curbed", most days I vomitted and didn't make it to school. My mother told me "Don't look!". Worked then, works now.

good for you, girl! glad it works for ya!

[Geewiz]

Point 2 why cats rule/dogs drool

Marmalade The Cat Uses The Toilet And Flushes When He Is Done!! - YouTube

[Patty55]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;572197]I think the answer to your question about a decent dog park being a priorty is that "they" do not have to change anything to be enormously successful selling homes here. I have to point out that how it is, is how it will be so please don't come with the hopes of changing anything and then be disappointed. This isn't anything like what most of us are used to in our lives up until now. It is a CDD form of government and we don't vote. We can suggest.

I realize that. Actually, I thought if I lived there I'd probably buy a couple of bags of mulch and put it on the dirt area of the small dog park myself.

I'm less concerned about the lack of better dog parks than some of the hostile remarks about dogs. Finding it disgusting to see someone clean up after their dog? I was looking forward to moving to a place where I wouldn't have to "sweat the small stuff". Again, like most responsible dog owners, I am very careful about making sure my dogs don't interfere with others enjoyment but I personally love to meet other people's dogs and see them about. Oh, well, at least it convinced me of the need for a CYV.


You really don't need to be concerned about the hostility, I get very little of it out and about. People here tend to only show their true selves on the internet, they like to portray themselves as well-adjusted in public.

A CVY would be a good idea, I think someone who values their own privacy stands a better chance at being respectful of yours. IMO, the people in CYVs tend to not be pretentious tools and are likely to have dogs.

I moved here specifically because it was good for dogs. I had looked at another place in Naples (frankly, I preferred that area) where they said you could only have one dog, then salesman just gave me a blank look when I said I had two (I think it was called Sophie's Choice Acres).

TV is great for dogs, I take mine everywhere, but then again I always did.

[gerryann]

gerryann - i don't react that way to my neighbors - just to dogs taking a dump in front of me. of course, have never been very good at holding someone's head over the toilet bowl when they are hurling either! ;)

You hold your own head over the toilet?? how does that work?

[Patty55]

You hold your own head over the toilet?? how does that work?

I so despise when that happens:wine::wine::wine:

[njbchbum]

You hold your own head over the toilet?? how does that work?

communication error? please reread post - 'holding someone's head' - NOT my head!

[graciegirl]

Hope.

I HOPE you have read some of my other posts so that you know that even though we don't own a dog we love them and enjoy them all around us. We just had a nice pet on a cute Chow at Lowes yesterday who was in the basket and we have a number of neighborhood dogs and know all their names and enjoy them.

I try very hard to paint an honest picture of this place because when I read on this forum that someone didn't know this or that, somehow it hurts me that they are disappointed in the wonderful place we now call our home town.

I have never met anyone personally that didn't like dogs, well one couple and they don't like cats either and I think they don't come over anymore because of ours. Ours like to interact with people and we literally have to shut them up in their room when we have company sometimes because they just want to sit on everybody and not everyone wants that.

You will find lots of beautiful dogs and mostly all wonderful dog owners. I feel you will be very happy here.

Kindest wishes,
Gracie

[Bonnevie]

whew, thank you all. I think I may be overly sensitive because in my job I interact with a lot of people "our" age and older who are miserable and take it out on those of us who service them. The negativity is not only depressing but is affecting my health. It is one of the reason's I'm running numbers to see if I can retire next May. I had heard that people in TV worked hard all their lives, like I have, and now want to enjoy themselves, as I do, and are generally positive people and don't blow up over ever perceived slight or inconvenience. Am I being too Pollyannish?

[pooh]

whew, thank you all. I think I may be overly sensitive because in my job I interact with a lot of people "our" age and older who are miserable and take it out on those of us who service them. The negativity is not only depressing but is affecting my health. It is one of the reason's I'm running numbers to see if I can retire next May. I had heard that people in TV worked hard all their lives, like I have, and now want to enjoy themselves, as I do, and are generally positive people and don't blow up over ever perceived slight or inconvenience. Am I being too Pollyannish?

You are not being Pollyannish, you're just ready to retire... ;)
The people in TV are wonderful individuals, but there are some who have differing attitudes about things and situations....happens all the time when you bring people with background differences and views, together .... not a problem unless one makes it a problem. We all learn from others around us and it's best to try and find the special glow each one has...we all have good points and for some, it's easy to spot them in others.

People who have lived here for a while may see things in a different light than someone who is new to the community. It's a great place, it represents the results of years and years of hard work, saving, and now, freedom and time to enjoy. Initially you get busy with so many things, there's just so much to do, but after a while, you become selective about what gives you joy and while you may enjoy doing so many things, the day is only so long... :D

There are some things that have irked people, and even though they are now living what is their dream, they may still be irked. Just because they live in a beautiful, resort community doesn't mean they aren't bothered by things. You'll find that there are a number of things that can start discussions and our 4 legged friends is one of those topics. The Villages is a community, not a utopia, and it and its residents still have to deal with negativity every once in a while....but only every once in a while. It a beautiful place, filled with wonderful people and I know you're going to enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!

[gomoho]

And as someone said in an earlier post most of the b___ing goes on here on TOTV. Let's us vent before we go out to play golf 'cause we sure don't want anything messing with our game!!!

[Russ_Boston]

Just curious - why does everyone talk about just poop? I see dozens of dogs who urinate on other people's lawns. This leaves a small yellow stain on their grass. I can understand why owners of houses on a large non-neighborhood street (think Bailey or St. Charles) get upset over the 'curb your dog' thing. They have dozens and dozens of dogs walk past their property every day.

I don't own a dog or cat but I would never let them 'go' on someone else's property or shared property like the mailbox area. But I see it every day and I just don't get it.

[gerryann]

I have never experienced ANY negativity when I am out and about. NEVER. I walk my pup...I take her to the squares....I take her to the mail station...I take her everywhere. It's never an issue, ONLY HERE ON TOTV. So don't think for one second that any of the situations that are discussed here are a real problem. You'd think by reading these posts that there's dog poop all over the place...that the restaurants are full of nasty people...that you couldn't get a decent meal here, and we're all a bunch of drunks....well, may the last one a little. Don't worry. It's all good here...wonderful, friendly folks just enjoying life.

[gerryann]

Just curious - why does everyone talk about just poop? I see dozens of dogs who urinate on other people's lawns. This leaves a small yellow stain on their grass. I can understand why owners of houses on a large non-neighborhood street (think Bailey or St. Charles) get upset over the 'curb your dog' thing. They have dozens and dozens of dogs walk past their property every day.

I don't own a dog or cat but I would never let them 'go' on someone else's property or shared property like the mailbox area. But I see it every day and I just don't get it.

I think you don't get it BECAUSE you don't have a dog. It's never our intention for our dogs to pee on another's property...they just go when they're out..not our choice, just Mother Nature.

[skyguy79]

whew, thank you all. I think I may be overly sensitive because in my job I interact with a lot of people "our" age and older who are miserable and take it out on those of us who service them. The negativity is not only depressing but is affecting my health. It is one of the reason's I'm running numbers to see if I can retire next May. I had heard that people in TV worked hard all their lives, like I have, and now want to enjoy themselves, as I do, and are generally positive people and don't blow up over ever perceived slight or inconvenience. Am I being too Pollyannish?I agree with pooh that your not being Pollyannish at all! I hope your numbers work out for you.

I was in a stressful job working with the public and I'll tell you, I couldn't wait to get away from it. Towards the end it was getting very difficult not to give it back to the nastys that I had to deal with. That was 10 years ago and I retired ASAP when reaching our retirement age. I haven't looked back and I haven't regretted it... not for a nano-second!

So, in light of what you're dealing with currently, TV should be a walk in the park for you. I know it was for me!
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[rmcpklinefelter]

ditto shrandell, my collie DeeDee practically poops on command, in our yard of course, before we set out for a nice stroll to the mail center. She looks forward to it and the distance is perfect for her hip displasia. Have you noticed, the mail center grass doesn't seem any worse for "wear".

[Tom Grooms]

I am just as outraged as anyone else if I find other dogs droppings in my yard. I would never do that. However, I'm amazed at the concern about pee. My dogs do the most before they leave our yard on our walks but like to smell where other dogs are and deposit a drop. Even my current neighbor who prizes his lawn above all things doesn't get upset if he sees one of them lift a leg because he knows the amount is minimal and won't harm it.

I think you don't get it BECAUSE you don't have a dog. It's never our intention for our dogs to pee on another's property...they just go when they're out..not our choice, just Mother Nature.

Not your choice? You're kidding right? Are you telling us you cant control your animal? You're amazed at the concern?

Im SHOCKED that you believe it's ok for your dog to do his/her business on somebody's lawn.

It is NEVER under any circumstance ok for you or your dog to do your business on my lawn.

CURB YOUR DOGS

[KeepingItReal]

Deleted by poster, reposted.

[KeepingItReal]

Consider these facts next time you see a dog in a shopping basket at Lowe's and even worse at Wal Mart's where people put their groceries. NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE SHOPPING CART HANDLES ANYMORE..

“A single gram of dog waste can contain 23 million fecal coliform bacteria” (Van Der Wel, B. 1995. Dog pollution. The Magazine of the Hydrological Society of South Australia 2(1).) Dogs can be a significant host of giardia and salmonella. (Lim and Olivieri, 1982). Further sourced from the University of Texas, 2001.

Facts About the Dangers of Dog Poop
Dog poop is a problem we deal with on a daily basis. But is it dangerous? How much do you know? Is pet waste a health hazard?

Here are the dangerous facts:

1. Dog poop is NOT good fertilizer. It's toxic to your lawn! The high nutrient concentration in dog poop will burn and discolor the grass, creating "hot spots".

2. Nearly two decades ago, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) classified pet waste as a dangerous pollutant in the same category as toxic chemicals and oil.

3. You may not live near water, but unscooped poop from your yard is carried by overland water flow or is washed into storm drains, ending up in far away streams, rivers and ground water.

4. The U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirms pet waste can spread parasites including hookworms, ringworms, tapeworms and Salmonella. When infected dog poop comes into contact with your lawn, the poop will eventually "disappear", but the parasite eggs can linger for years! When a human or animal comes into contact with that soil through everyday activities like walking barefoot, gardening or playing, they risk infection from those eggs ... even years after the poop is gone.

5. Pet waste is teaming with E. Coli and other harmful bacteria including fecal coliform bacteria, which causes serious kidney disorders, intestinal illness, cramps and diarrhea in humans. (There are 23 million fecal coliform bacteria in a single gram of pet waste!)

6. Dog poop often contains roundworm larvae, which cause blindness. If a human ingests a roundworm larva, it can migrate through the body causing disease to the brain, lungs, kidneys, liver, heart or eyes. So when people (especially children) touch soil, dog toys or anything that has been in contact with dog feces and then touch their mouths, they can become infected.

Dog poop doesn't just "wash away" or disappear. So if you're not disposing of your dog's waste, you're putting yourself, your family, your dog and your water supply at risk.
Posted byJoanne Osbandat6:24 PM
Labels:dog,dog feces,dog poop,dogs,pet waste

[vj1213]

I walk my dog at least 3 times a day and once a day he jumps on the golf cart to go to the mail station. He loves to walk around and as some one else said "read all the pee mails" and yeah he sends a few himself. If he poops, I bag it and yes I bring it home. We meet and greet people at the mail station daily and we will continue to go there. I am sorry if offends some, but I doubt very seriously that any of you are walking the back perimeters toward the hedges. If you see us there I will smile and wave...but you can be sure we will be there. I am blessed to live in a neighborhood where everyone loves my little dog, he visits everyone and even my "master gardner" next door neighbor has never complained if my dog has peed on a bush or anyplace in his yard. I am sure that there has to be more important topics than dog poop!

[Patty55]

Consider these facts next time you see a dog in a shopping basket at Lowe's and even worse at Wal Mart's where people put their groceries. NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE SHOPPING CART HANDLES ANYMORE..

“A single gram of dog waste can contain 23 million fecal coliform bacteria” (Van Der Wel, B. 1995. Dog pollution. The Magazine of the Hydrological Society of South Australia 2(1).) Dogs can be a significant host of giardia and salmonella. (Lim and Olivieri, 1982). Further sourced from the University of Texas, 2001.

Facts About the Dangers of Dog Poop
Dog poop is a problem we deal with on a daily basis. But is it dangerous? How much do you know? Is pet waste a health hazard?

Here are the dangerous facts:

1. Dog poop is NOT good fertilizer. It's toxic to your lawn! The high nutrient concentration in dog poop will burn and discolor the grass, creating "hot spots".

2. Nearly two decades ago, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) classified pet waste as a dangerous pollutant in the same category as toxic chemicals and oil.

3. You may not live near water, but unscooped poop from your yard is carried by overland water flow or is washed into storm drains, ending up in far away streams, rivers and ground water.

4. The U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirms pet waste can spread parasites including hookworms, ringworms, tapeworms and Salmonella. When infected dog poop comes into contact with your lawn, the poop will eventually "disappear", but the parasite eggs can linger for years! When a human or animal comes into contact with that soil through everyday activities like walking barefoot, gardening or playing, they risk infection from those eggs ... even years after the poop is gone.

5. Pet waste is teaming with E. Coli and other harmful bacteria including fecal coliform bacteria, which causes serious kidney disorders, intestinal illness, cramps and diarrhea in humans. (There are 23 million fecal coliform bacteria in a single gram of pet waste!)

6. Dog poop often contains roundworm larvae, which cause blindness. If a human ingests a roundworm larva, it can migrate through the body causing disease to the brain, lungs, kidneys, liver, heart or eyes. So when people (especially children) touch soil, dog toys or anything that has been in contact with dog feces and then touch their mouths, they can become infected.

Dog poop doesn't just "wash away" or disappear. So if you're not disposing of your dog's waste, you're putting yourself, your family, your dog and your water supply at risk.
Posted byJoanne Osbandat6:24 PM
Labels:dog,dog feces,dog poop,dogs,pet waste

Oh please, the dogs here have better care than most children, they are not wormy or diseased. They are better groomed than their owners.

DON'T SEE TOO MANY POOCHES WALKING AROUND WITH A CAL'S $15 HAIRCUT.:a20:

[KeepingItReal]

Oh please, the dogs here have better care than most children, they are not wormy or diseased. They are better groomed than their owners.

DON'T SEE TOO MANY POOCHES WALKING AROUND WITH A CAL'S $15 HAIRCUT.:a20:

Guess there are facts to prove that somewhere, don't put much stock in opinions?

[Patty55]

Guess there are facts to prove that somewhere?

DUH? Haven't seen an outbreak here, have you?

Just look at the line at Cal's.

I REST MY CASE

[KeepingItReal]

DUH? Haven't seen an outbreak here, have you?

We would never know about it here if there was an outbreak.... I posted the facts from an outside source. Each person can make their own opinion, they are the facts.

[Serenoa]

I walk my dog at least 3 times a day and once a day he jumps on the golf cart to go to the mail station. He loves to walk around and as some one else said "read all the pee mails" and yeah he sends a few himself. If he poops, I bag it and yes I bring it home. We meet and greet people at the mail station daily and we will continue to go there. I am sorry if offends some, but I doubt very seriously that any of you are walking the back perimeters toward the hedges. If you see us there I will smile and wave...but you can be sure we will be there. I am blessed to live in a neighborhood where everyone loves my little dog, he visits everyone and even my "master gardner" next door neighbor has never complained if my dog has peed on a bush or anyplace in his yard. I am sure that there has to be more important topics than dog poop!

Your master gardener next door neighbor is most likely just too polite to say anything, but trust me, he DOES NOT like seeing your pooch pee on any of his plants or bushes. And if you allow your dog, it will only invite other dogs to mark his plants, too. I love our little tail waggers as much as anyone, but I don't landscape my yard for the neighborhood dogs to poop & pee in. My advice would be....just be a good, polite neighbor in return, and make every effort to not allow your dog to use his yard in that way. He'll really appreciate it, I'm sure.

[Patty55]

I walk my dog at least 3 times a day and once a day he jumps on the golf cart to go to the mail station. He loves to walk around and as some one else said "read all the pee mails" and yeah he sends a few himself. If he poops, I bag it and yes I bring it home. We meet and greet people at the mail station daily and we will continue to go there. I am sorry if offends some, but I doubt very seriously that any of you are walking the back perimeters toward the hedges. If you see us there I will smile and wave...but you can be sure we will be there. I am blessed to live in a neighborhood where everyone loves my little dog, he visits everyone and even my "master gardner" next door neighbor has never complained if my dog has peed on a bush or anyplace in his yard. I am sure that there has to be more important topics than dog poop!

I am equally blessed.

[KeepingItReal]

And another WINDOW LICKER weighs in.

I am refering this to the moderator for their action, apparently the facts are not important. Believe me I can stick with you if we wanted to get into name calling.

[Moderator]

And another dog poop thread gets personal and nasty.

Thread closed.