Jehovah's Witness in Sanibel

[Carmpat]

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

[Madelaine Amee]

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

Did you report this incident to Community Watch, or anyone else? I am sure if TV knew they were out and about they would not be out and about around here for very long ...............

[Russ_Boston]

So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

[Number 6]

Did you report this incident to Community Watch, or anyone else? I am sure if TV knew they were out and about they would not be out and about around here for very long ...............

Oh, this gets better. A couple of weeks ago we called Community Watch to get them out of our neighborhood. We were told that CW could do nothing about it as they were not "soliticing". CW said that they could get in trouble if they said anything to them. Go figure.

[buggyone]

I would think that as long they are not asking for money, the Jehovah Witnesses would be allowed to knock on doors and try to convert people. The Mormons do this as a part of their ministry.

To "chase" them out of the neighborhoods would equate to religious intolerance. Do you want to be accused of living in a community that is intolerant of other people's religion? What next - skin color? I hope not.

[justjim]

So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

:coolsmiley: I agree that I see no big problem---"not interested---you have a good day and close your door".

[Golfingnut]

I would think that as long they are not asking for money, the Jehovah Witnesses would be allowed to knock on doors and try to convert people. The Mormons do this as a part of their ministry.

To "chase" them out of the neighborhoods would equate to religious intolerance. Do you want to be accused of living in a community that is intolerant of other people's religion? What next - skin color? I hope not.

Very funny.

[Patty55]

Century Link has come to my house soliciting three times, I'd prefer the JW.

[NotGolfer]

I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs!

[NotGolfer]

I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs! Oh, we also did call Community Watch and we got a positive response...that they'd take care of it. We'd do the same with the Mormon's or any other individuals....it's not discrimination....it's just telling them you're not interested.

[cquick]

Just thank them and shut the door.

[raynitsche]

Religious organizations are exempt from soliciting
laws. New York State that is

[Serenoa]

Without opening the door, yell out that you're nudists......and then watch them running back to the street!

Works every time......

[2BNTV]

Without opening the door, yell out that you're nudists......and then watch them running back to the street!

Works every time......

:1rotfl:

[2BNTV]

Thanks but no thanks would be my response.

I don't believe in intolerance towards other religions but I don't want someone telling me what I should believe either.

[gomoho]

Sorry, but I don't want anyone knocking on my door that I am not expecting and think
Community Watch should chase them out of here. Religious intolerance - please - we probably have more religious diversity in here than we could know what to do with. Someone even goes by the name of "redwitch".

[JoeC1947]

So the problem is?

Just tell them "not interested". Inconvenience - yes, problem - no.

I disagree. It is a problem for some folks to answer the door not to mention all the political phone calls. I got a call from Pat Boone, Bruce Springsteen and Mitt Romney and about a thousand calls from the RNC.

[graciegirl]

hmmmm.

[Golfingnut]

I find it very intolerant for anyone to knock on my door with a suggestion that my religion will have me burning in hell and ask me to change. I will not knock on your door and I DEMAND that you do not knock on mine if you intend to tell me I am going to hell for what I believe in.

[AJ32162]

Century Link has come to my house soliciting three times, I'd prefer the JW.

Is the JW TV/Phone/Internet bundling price any less? I'm thinking of switching.

[Golfingnut]

[QUOTE=JoeC1947;577536]I disagree. It is a problem for some folks to answer the door not to mention all the political phone calls. I got a call from Pat Boone, Bruce Springsteen and Mitt Romney and about a thousand calls from the RNC.[/QUOT\\\

Thats interesting, none of them called me.

:1rotfl:

[Patty55]

I find it very intolerant for anyone to knock on my door with a suggestion that my religion will have me burning in hell and ask me to change. I will not knock on your door and I DEMAND that you do not knock on mine if you intend to tell me I am going to hell for what I believe in.

Whoa, they told you that?

[kentucky blue]

:coolsmiley: I agree that I see no big problem---"not interested---you have a good day and close your door".

We had a nanny for our 3 children, that was a JW.Dawn worked for us for over 20 years, and left only after our youngest went off to college.She was a wonderful person,who only on a rare occasion would leave literature for me to read,never trying to convert the wife,kids or myself.We almost decided to have another child just to keep her around.Lexington has a large congregation of JW,who do come by the neighborhood and try to drop off their literature.You just politely tell them your not interested,and they go on their way,how difficult is that? Glad i live in a neighborhood that is very accepting of others, and has tolerance for all religions. Over the years i've used several JW,who were friends of Dawn,to work on my apartment buildings,NEVER had a problem.

[Patty55]

Is the JW TV/Phone/Internet bundling price any less? I'm thinking of switching.

It's a pretty good deal, but no Holiday programming.:1rotfl:

[perrjojo]

Religious, charitable and political solicitation is exempt from door to door solicitation rules, just as they are exempt from having to abide by the"Do not call " registry.

[goodgrief]

Well, let's put a completely different spin on this. They (assuming of course) they don't live here. They are going door to door bothering folks. This is a "gated" community. (yes use the term loosely) I see no issue with CW having them leave the area. And why aren't the gate guards asking non residents business in the area instead of waving them on through?? Nothing to do with religion. I look out the window and if its someone I'm not expecting or know I won't answer it. On another note I think someone also posted once there was some place you could call to have your address removed from the "visitation" list. I think if CW gets hit with enough phone calls they will have to do something.

[uujudy]

It's a pretty good deal, but no Holiday programming.:1rotfl:

Hahahaha! :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Down Sized]

I was under the impression "any" door-to-door people weren't allowed!! We had JW's come to our door, maybe 2 years ago, we just told them we weren't interested that we have our faith which doesn't coincide with theirs! Oh, we also did call Community Watch and we got a positive response...that they'd take care of it. We'd do the same with the Mormon's or any other individuals....it's not discrimination....it's just telling them you're not interested.

My how things change in two years. Just wait until the next two!

[janmcn]

Well, let's put a completely different spin on this. They (assuming of course) they don't live here. They are going door to door bothering folks. This is a "gated" community. (yes use the term loosely) I see no issue with CW having them leave the area. And why aren't the gate guards asking non residents business in the area instead of waving them on through?? Nothing to do with religion. I look out the window and if its someone I'm not expecting or know I won't answer it. On another note I think someone also posted once there was some place you could call to have your address removed from the "visitation" list. I think if CW gets hit with enough phone calls they will have to do something.

The gate guards are not allowed to block anybody from entering because the county maintains the roads. That's the deal the developer worked out with Sumter county years ago when the county wanted the gates removed. They are public roads and therefore the public has access to them. The gates are just for show.

[Russ_Boston]

Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

[superuke]

I just love knocking on J.W. doors on Haloween, they don't like it when I knock on their door!

[USSGompers]

We have a webcam in our window and once someone comes into our driveway/front door- we see them. The UPS/FedEx drivers are Always welcome.

Everyone else-

Not so much. Knock if you want. You may there for awhile!!

[kentucky blue]

Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Defining it another way.............................Someone who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.One who treats members of a group with intolerance.

[Geewiz]

Welcome them in...tell them you've been very lonely since "Little Skippy" died and to ease your emotional pain you had to resign yourself to constant self-abuse, but now that they are there you can rely on their emotional and physical support. Then start hugging...crying..kissing...and warning them about your infections. Enjoy!

[Indydealmaker]

Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Russ, This must represent an outbreak of In-grown Bubble Syndrome. Not usually fatal, but results in temporary Life Perception Lesions on the frontal lobe and Tolerance Leakage at the base of the brain.:1rotfl:

[lovesports]

Welcome them in...tell them you've been very lonely since "Little Skippy" died and to ease your emotional pain you had to resign yourself to constant self-abuse, but now that they are there you can rely on their emotional and physical support. Then start hugging...crying..kissing...and warning them about your infections. Enjoy!

LOL I love your sense of humor!

[gamby]

You do not have to fear the witnesses they only wish to offer you information in the Bible; If you kindly say no thank you they will leave. You also can ask them to be put on a do not return list.

Of interest
They are the most honest and moral people I have ever meet. They believe in God and practice Bible teachings 24 hours a day every day not just a few hours on Sunday. I have never been asked for a dime and never pressured to do anything .


There are a lot of misinformation in these posts and I see many are afraid the witnesses are going to brainwash or something like that, This is totaly false. They only hope to offer what"'s in the Bible.

Last time I looked there are over 110,000 congerations worldwide.


Hell fire: information for above post

▪ In the Gospel accounts, Jesus warns his disciples against suffering the judgment of Gehenna. Obviously, Jesus intended that the warning be taken seriously. However, was he referring to a burning hell of everlasting torment?—Matthew 5:22.
First, let us look at the word itself. The Greek word Ge′en·na corresponds to the Hebrew geh Hin·nom′, meaning “valley of Hinnom,” or more fully geh veneh-Hin·nom′, “valley of the sons of Hinnom.” (Joshua 15:8; 2*Kings 23:10) This geographic site, known today as Wadi er-Rababi, is a deep and narrow valley located to the south and southwest of Jerusalem.
In the times of the kings of Judah, from the eighth century B.C.E., this location was used for pagan rites, including the sacrificial burning of children in fire. (2*Chronicles 28:1-3; 33:1-6) The prophet Jeremiah foretold that the same valley would become the place of slaughter for Judeans at the hands of the Babylonians in judgment from God for their wickedness.—Jeremiah 7:30-33; 19:6,*7.
According to the Jewish scholar David Kimhi (c.*1160-c.*1235*C.E.), the valley was later transformed into a garbage dump for the city of Jerusalem. The place served as an incinerator where fires were kept burning to dispose of rubbish. Anything thrown into this dump would be completely destroyed, turned into ashes.
Many Bible translators have taken the liberty of rendering Ge′en·na “hell.” (Matthew 5:22, King James Version) Why? Because they associated the pagan-inspired notion of an afterlife of fiery judgment for the wicked with the physical fire in the valley outside Jerusalem. Jesus, however, never associated Gehenna with torment.
Jesus knew that the very thought of burning people alive is repugnant to his heavenly Father, Jehovah. Referring to the use made of Gehenna in the days of the prophet Jeremiah, God said: “They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” (Jeremiah 7:31) Moreover, the idea of torment for the dead conflicts with God’s loving personality as well as with the Bible’s clear teaching that the dead are “conscious of nothing at all.”—Ecclesiastes 9:5,*10.
Jesus used the term “Gehenna” to symbolize the utter destruction resulting from God’s adverse judgment. Hence, “Gehenna” has a meaning similar to that of “the lake of fire,” mentioned in the book of Revelation. Both symbolize eternal destruction from which no resurrection is possible.—Luke 12:4,*5; Revelation 20:14,*15.
[Footnote]
Commenting on this prophecy, the New Catholic Encyclopedia says: “In the destruction of Jerusalem so many of its inhabitants would be killed that their corpses would be cast, unburied, into the valley to rot or be burned.”

God does provide for an earthly paridise; not a firery place to be burned forever.

[BritParrothead]

we have many J W and Mormons here where we live. TheMormon boys are always so polite and very nice kids. The JW come in couples, with children in tow. Both, always seem to come at the 'wrong' time! i.e. in the shower, on the phone etc. The worst time was when we lived in London, the JW's turned up on Christmas day, just as we were sitting down to dinner!! NOT amused.

[paulandjean]

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

The first words are "Beware" of the Jehovah Witnesses. Wow, almost spilled my coffee.This is Florida Friendliness City.

[senior citizen]

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[senior citizen]

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[graciegirl]

I am not a fan of the Jehovah Witnesses. I am a Catholic with my own problems and lotsa work to do. But I don't think they do what they do to harass or annoy. Like a lot of folks they are probably sincere in their efforts.

If I see dressed up folks, two or three of them, going to others doors, I just don't answer the door and if I do. I say, thank you, I am not interested.

And...I hope by so doing, Someone will still leave the door open up there when the time comes.

I think you are supposed to be nice.

[JoeC1947]

Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Russ,

Do you mean the ones that agree with you or the ones that don't?

[senior citizen]

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[senior citizen]

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[gomoho]

I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.

[graciegirl]

I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.


And point well taken. You are right. And kind and funny and good and always fair and considerate in your views.


Please come knock on MY door...or ring the bell. It's a doozy, it plays a song. ;)

Hugs waiting.

[BobnBev]

The gate guards are not allowed to block anybody from entering because the county maintains the roads. That's the deal the developer worked out with Sumter county years ago when the county wanted the gates removed. They are public roads and therefore the public has access to them. The gates are just for show.

Well,if they are County roads, who is responsible for the snow remov....errrr....ooops, my bad. :cold::throwtomatoes:

[ugotme]

I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.

Absolutely!

I must say I have only had 1 problem with a JW. After politely telling him that I wasn't interested I proceeded to close my door (not slam it - just close it).

At that point, he put his foot in the door to block it.

I then (ummm shall we say rather unpolitely) told him that it would be in his best interest to remove his foot !

HE GOT THE MESSAGE !

[senior citizen]

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[JoeC1947]

I have a sister in Long Island that has been a J.W. for some 35 years. When she became a J.W. she discontinued all communication with our family for 25 years because she said the the J.W.'s were her family. My mother made many attempts to contact her through her friends to no avail. She finally contacted my Mother after my Father died and has been in sporadic contact ever since, mostly when she needed money. She also doesn't celebrate birthdays. Once when she was at my house it happened to be my Mom's birthday, she asked me if I thought it would be weird if she has a piece of cake. I said why would I think it's weird? It's just cake. She said "we" don't celebrate birthdays. I lost a good sister to the J.W.'s and my Mother, who is a devout Catholic, lost a good daughter.

[gerryann]

To each his own...believe in whatever you want...whatever God you want, but d'ont prothlesize to me about your beliefs unless I ask.

[Uptown Girl]

Sorry... I couldn't resist. (Warning: contains some colorful language!)


Mrs. Brown and The Mormons - Mrs. Brown's Boys Episode 6, preview - BBC One - YouTube (http://youtu.be/QarofaycN3c)

[senior citizen]

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[Russ_Boston]

Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

[cgalloway6]

I am not a supported of JW but they are practicing their religion as they believe they should. Evangelical Christians do the same thing but send missionaries to other countries or even urban areas(street ministries) to spread the Word of Christ. They do it because they believe that the only way you will be saved is by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You don't see them going door to door in The Villages because most Christians are too intimidated by non-believers and fear the ridicule that might happen to openly talk about their faith and the local churches don't push it. The local churches have different ways to spread the Word - ask you to bring a neighbor or friend to some church event - Christmas pagent, Thanksgiving meal, sunrise service, youth choir, the Village Voices.
The commission is to only spread the word, plant a seed, not convince anyone. That is God's job. If you aren't ready to accept it, no amount of discussion will change your heart.

[JoeC1947]

Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

That's funny. Hummmmm, who was the first one to call some posters ignorant?
Let me think......Oh, now I remember.

[Russ_Boston]

That's funny. Hummmmm, who was the first one to call some posters ignorant?
Let me think......Oh, now I remember.

What's ignorant about my statement? You can see just from the length of the replies that it is getting out of hand. That is exactly the opposite of ignorance. (i.e. lack of knowledge - Ignorance | Define Ignorance at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorance?s=t))

[Ripcord13]

And point well taken. You are right. And kind and funny and good and always fair and considerate in your views.


Please come knock on MY door...or ring the bell. It's a doozy, it plays a song. ;)

Hugs waiting.

Mydoor bell plays La Cucaracha.

[Taltarzac725]

Mydoor bell plays La Cucaracha.

Very interesting song that. The Straight Dope: What are the words to "La Cucaracha"? (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2315/what-are-the-words-to-la-cucaracha)

Cannot remember ever getting any JW in the Villages. They seemed to come around every year in Palm Harbor. I would just not answer the door whenever I saw someone I thought could be a religious missionary of some sort.

[Geewiz]

OK - joking aside....religious/philosophical outlooks are exceedingly personal. You want to leave a brochure with information - fine. You knock on my door and expect me to engage you in debate - no matter how "well meaning" you are, expect to be called out for engaging in arrogant colonialism. I'm not very tolerant of folks pushing their ideology on me especially when that ideology is based neither in science nor historical fact. Faith is great. It lets people exceed their self-imposed limitations..but, the intellectual bottom line is the faith argument is "this is the truth because I believe it's the truth though I can't prove it." I'm not saying you are wrong - but, it is a poor substitute for more measurable observations.

[ilovetv]

I'm not a fan of door-to-door peddling of anything. The Jehovah's Witness calls (the calls, not the persons) are a "nuisance" I'd say, and I don't answer the door to them nor anybody else who shows up at an inopportune time.

While I don't like some of the religious doctrines they want to deliver, it's a bit disturbing here to see them talked about as if they were criminals or something.

A lot worse things/people could show up at the door.

[Carmpat]

When I told them I was not interested the first time, the older man would not take no for an answer and that is when I shut the door. I was not rude just not interested in what they had to say

[gerryann]

I'm not a fan of door-to-door peddling of anything. The Jehovah's Witness calls (the calls, not the persons) are a "nuisance" I'd say, and I don't answer the door to them nor anybody else who shows up at an inopportune time.

While I don't like some of the religious doctrines they want to deliver, it's a bit disturbing here to see them talked about as if they were criminals or something.

A lot worse things/people could show up at the door.

:agree:

[Russ_Boston]

Wow, it seems that you have a lot more aggressive JW's down here!

I've never been rude nor have they. I just say 'no thanks' and they walk away.

[bkcunningham1]

Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

I hope so.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

[Russ_Boston]

I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

As a friendly neighbor who lives in a very friendly neighborhood - If I had to call first before knocking on your door I don't think I'd be calling very much. Just saying.

[JoeC1947]

What's ignorant about my statement? You can see just from the length of the replies that it is getting out of hand. That is exactly the opposite of ignorance. (i.e. lack of knowledge - Ignorance | Define Ignorance at Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ignorance?s=t))

I didn't say anything was ignorant about your statement. Did you forget you wrote in post # 30:

"Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough! "

Your words not mine.

[Moderator]

OK, let's get back on topic about JW doing door-to-door visits.

[gomoho]

What more is there to say - some people answer and politely tell them to go away, some choose not answer at all, and some don't want anyone knocking on their door uninvited or unexpected. That pretty much wraps it up - don't think it matters if it's a JV or anyone else selling or whatever.

[downeaster]

OK, let's get back on topic about JW doing door-to-door visits.

Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

[gerryann]

Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

I couldn't agree more. They're are JW here in the villages. There is a Kingdom Hall just outside TV. They are all good people.

[Mack184]

Whether or not TV is a "gated" community (it's not) really is not relevant. Most people no matter where they live are not interested in people knocking on their doors whether it's to talk about God, Politics or AmWay. The mailman, Federal Express & UPS tend to be another matter, but in the most general sense you have asked them to come to your door no matter where you live.

[Ripcord13]

Whether or not TV is a "gated" community (it's not) really is not relevant. Most people no matter where they live are not interested in people knocking on their doors whether it's to talk about God, Politics or AmWay. The mailman, Federal Express & UPS tend to be another matter, but in the most general sense you have asked them to come to your door no matter where you live.

I have asked them to come to my door? No I haven't where do you come up with that? What ever you've been smoking I want some.

[gamby]

In an effort to set matters straight, Jehovah’s Witnesses published a tract that answered such questions as these: Who are Jehovah’s Witnesses? Are they Christians? Do they accept medical care? Why do they go from door to door? How is their work financed? How do Jehovah’s Witnesses benefit the community?
The informative tract in the French language was entitled Jehovah’s Witnesses—What You Need to Know. In order to leave the tract with as many people as possible, a campaign was organized. more than nine million copies were distributed.
This tract impressed many, including public officials. “The criticism leveled at Jehovah’s Witnesses fills me with indignation,” wrote a regional councilman after reading the tract. “Time and again I have come to appreciate the benevolent and unselfish character of your work.” In response to the tract, a member of the European Parliament wrote: “The majority of the people know very well how to tell the difference between the group of Christians of which you are a part and the*cults.”
In Brittany a Witness presented the tract to a priest, who readily accepted it. “I commend you for what you are doing,” the priest said. He then added: “I encourage my parishioners to let you into their homes and to offer you a cup of coffee. You can even tell those you meet that you have been to my home. I also want to tell you that I appreciate reading your publications.”
After receiving the tract, a Protestant man in Alsace wrote to the Watch Tower Society requesting a Bible study. “Having lost all confidence in my parish,” he wrote, “I’m looking forward to a new start spiritually.” Despite the false charges that are at times leveled against them, Jehovah’s Witnesses in France—indeed, in all parts of the world—continue helping people to come to an accurate knowledge of God’s purposes, as set forth in the Bible.—2*Timothy 3:16, 17.

[senior citizen]

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[mulligan]

I do believe this horse is dead

[Russ_Boston]

Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

I guess that's what I meant.

[graciegirl]

I guess that's what I meant.

I do believe this horse is dead

Enough is enough.

We can't do any better on this subject than politics.

Least said, soonest mended.

[Cedwards38]

Would those of you who are offended by someone knocking on your door with a cause be equally offended if the visitor were the minister from the local Baptist church inviting you to a revival, a candidate for local office seeking your vote, the chairman of the local _________ political party (insert your own choice in the blank) trying to invite you to a political rally, someone collecting for the March of Dimes, a neighbor collecting for the American Heart Association? Would you call the Community Watch if the visitor were someone distributing a petition for signatures about a local issue, someone selling raffle tickets for their grandson's elementary school fund raiser, or someone trying to promote a local blood drive at the hospital? If the religion being promoted by the visitor were Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, or other would it make a difference? If someone was hungry and came to your door seeking food, of if someone was rich and came to your door to give part of her fortune to you would it matter?
I'm just curious!

[JoeC1947]

I guess the tribal council has spoken. Some people say things they cannot or will not defend then they want to close down the thread.

[billethkid]

TV is a "no solicitation" community. The boundaries of which are tested/abused almost daily. Enforcement as usual is the issue and all the peddlars know it.

I put up a no solicitors sign at the door bell.....works about 90% of the time the other 10% get a hello...no thanx...goodbye with a closed door quickly following.

It is refreshing to participate in a thread where differing opinions are presented....without the bell being rung!

btk

[Taltarzac725]

Would those of you who are offended by someone knocking on your door with a cause be equally offended if the visitor were the minister from the local Baptist church inviting you to a revival, a candidate for local office seeking your vote, the chairman of the local _________ political party (insert your own choice in the blank) trying to invite you to a political rally, someone collecting for the March of Dimes, a neighbor collecting for the American Heart Association? Would you call the Community Watch if the visitor were someone distributing a petition for signatures about a local issue, someone selling raffle tickets for their grandson's elementary school fund raiser, or someone trying to promote a local blood drive at the hospital? If the religion being promoted by the visitor were Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, or other would it make a difference? If someone was hungry and came to your door seeking food, of if someone was rich and came to your door to give part of her fortune to you would it matter?
I'm just curious!

There are all kinds of channels to make requests like this in the Villages. TOTV is a prime example. Friends' groups. Neighborhood groups. Virginia Trace's web-site. The Villages Daily Sun ads.

Not sure why groups need to solicit for funds of any kind door-to-door in the Villages. Or, for souls as with the Baptists, Lutherans, Mormons, or Jehovah's Witnesses.

[senior citizen]

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[graciegirl]

I guess the tribal council has spoken. Some people say things they cannot or will not defend then they want to close down the thread.


Back in Ohio, the kids on my block would say, Wanna fight? Join the army.

Here is how I defend what I just typed (IF you meant me.) Some see no reason to get our knickers in a twist over something that is NOT dangerous, only annoying. Being rude to a church person just doesn't seem right and you don't have to answer the door and you do NOT have to say anything. Or just no thank you or thank you for the info.

OR...you can call the authorities. This is a value thing. We react to this issue as to how we were raised. There isn't any right or wrong answer.

Continue on. Ad infinitum.

[senior citizen]

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[JoeC1947]

Back in Ohio, the kids on my block would say, Wanna fight? Join the army.

Here is how I defend what I just typed (IF you meant me.) Some see no reason to get our knickers in a twist over something that is NOT dangerous, only annoying. Being rude to a church person just doesn't seem right and you don't have to answer the door and you do NOT have to say anything. Or just no thank you or thank you for the info.

OR...you can call the authorities. This is a value thing. We react to this issue as to how we were raised. There isn't any right or wrong answer.

Continue on. Ad infinitum.

GG, I didn't mean you. I believe the person that was directed to knows I meant him. I'll give you a hint, his name begins with R and I already asked him outright why he called some of the posts ignorant.

[graciegirl]

I didn't see the responses the way it's mentioned above.
The ones upset found the "callers" to be the rude ones; not the other way around.

None of us would go out of our way to be rude to a "church person".
I'm sure we are all raised just fine.

The "authorities" have better things to do than respond to disgruntled folks having their doorbells constantly rung.

What I've said is that we live in a pretty big house and are not always by our front door........we could be on any of the three levels ....or we could be out on the back screened in porch or on the deck or in the backyard.
Every time the doorbell rings to an "uninvited guest" is a hassle as you get older. We don't run as fast as we used to.

I think this is boiling down to who likes to go around and ring people's doorbells to who prefers their uninterrupted privacy.........and the J.W. we get up here are a bit offputting........maybe not as nice as the ones you get at your place in TV.

Also, if you didn't answer the door, how would you know it wasn't someone you might like to see????

We're talking "uninvited annoying solicitors"..............soliciting something we are not interested in.

Just last night we were discussing how THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR we haven't got any local candidates coming to our door on Sunday afternoons...........strange but true. They came for years, handing out fliers or hanging them on front doors........

I wasn't responding to YOUR posts senior. I have to agree with almost anything you have to say. You think things through and are very nice and considerate of others.

Sigh. We don't have much in the way of solictors period here...No Jehovah Witnesses have come to my door here in The Villages EVER...in the last year here or the first four in Hadley...so for me it is a non issue BUT I do miss the Girl Scouts...We occasionally have someone knocking on the door of our relatively new neighborhood trying to sell a palm tree or two.

I guess to me this isn't a problem. I remember reading on this forum before we moved here five years ago that someone cut through someone's back yard and people were ready to get their guns.

It takes all kinds to make a world. I am the boring kind.

JOE C. I am so glad you didn't mean me. Whew.

[mulligan]

Not only did we beat the poor horse to death, but now the guns are coming out. Quick!! Someone get a shovel!!

[Mack184]

I have asked them to come to my door? No I haven't where do you come up with that? What ever you've been smoking I want some.
If you are receiving something from the Post Office (not junk) or a package from Federal Express or UPS you most likely ordered it, bought it, getting billed for it or asked for it. So tacitly you have asked them to come to your door.

[gerryann]

If you are receiving something from the Post Office (not junk) or a package from Federal Express or UPS you most likely ordered it, bought it, getting billed for it or asked for it. So tacitly you have asked them to come to your door.

You guys crack me up.....I'm assuming your guys.....

[USSGompers]

OK - joking aside....religious/philosophical outlooks are exceedingly personal. You want to leave a brochure with information - fine. You knock on my door and expect me to engage you in debate - no matter how "well meaning" you are, expect to be called out for engaging in arrogant colonialism. I'm not very tolerant of folks pushing their ideology on me especially when that ideology is based neither in science nor historical fact. Faith is great. It lets people exceed their self-imposed limitations..but, the intellectual bottom line is the faith argument is "this is the truth because I believe it's the truth though I can't prove it." I'm not saying you are wrong - but, it is a poor substitute for more measurable observations.

Thank you so much. I totally agree. Faith is great but we all seem to follow a different road. Which one is right? We won't know until we are dead. John Lennon told his wife that if he would ever die-

before that assho** shot him dead-

He would come back- if he could- and Let her know that he was okay-

Poor guy never did. So believe what you may. hell, heaven, reincarnation, whatever-

truth is- we won't know til we are dead-

then it's too late.

Just sayin'!!

:pray:

[USSGompers]

As a friendly neighbor who lives in a very friendly neighborhood - If I had to call first before knocking on your door I don't think I'd be calling very much. Just saying.

Here in Florida with all the home Invasions- we do NOT open the door to strangers. I don't care what you look like- you are not coming in. If I open the door- I am inviting crime-

Don't do it-

You will be very sorry.

If I want info on different religions- I will Google it!

Thank you
:rant-rave:

[senior citizen]

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[Bogie Shooter]

Here in Florida with all the home Invasions- we do NOT open the door to strangers. I don't care what you look like- you are not coming in. If I open the door- I am inviting crime-

Don't do it-

You will be very sorry.

If I want info on different religions- I will Google it!

Thank you
:rant-rave:

Have there been a lot of "home invasions" in The Villages??

[senior citizen]

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[Cantwaittoarrive]

Here in Florida with all the home Invasions- we do NOT open the door to strangers. I don't care what you look like- you are not coming in. If I open the door- I am inviting crime-

Don't do it-

You will be very sorry.

If I want info on different religions- I will Google it!

Thank you
:rant-rave:

:agree::agree::agree:exactly why I dont answer the doorbell

[jflynn1]

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses ? OH My god. I guess thre next statement will be "Beware of Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, or Blacks, Catholics, Christians , Irish or Italain"
How Sad.

[graciegirl]

Probably not........but would they print it?

However, we saw a heck of a lot of workers, probably most just trying to do their daily jobs.........who looked like aliens (not the outer space type).

We've read that it's often the service people or cleaning people that are allowed entry to the property , that "might be tempted"....

We know our landscapers up here and our plumbers, carpenters, etc. as they all were born and raised in this town, but there is another element moving into our state to collect welfare.

Also, people on drugs don't care whose home they invade.
People who need money for drugs, ditto.

Anyone can drive through TV......as we've seen all the work trucks using the roads to get to the other side.........

Many times, the elderly are perceived as easy targets.

Hopefully, it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN........but BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.

We live in a safe state....probably one of the safest...and yet we all know not to let any strangers in.......times have changed, sadly.

Up here it's mostly small time thieves wanting to steal home safes and jewelry to re sell for scrap.........or lots of thieves are stealing copper wire right from homes.....plumbing parts, etc. They know the seasonal homes and sometimes are breaking into non seasonal homes when the owners are away at work or school.............it is scary but times are hard and people need $$$$$$$$$$$

43 years ago we thought nothing of leaving our doors open and the keys in our cars..........not any more. Most Vermonters never locked their doors. Those times have changed, unfortunately.

Our police are on the ball up here and give out regular warnings on what to look for. I can honestly say that our daily newspaper prints all the news, good and bad.
People need to be aware..........and they sure let us know. Glad my kids are grown up and on their own, with families of their own. Society has changed.

Again, we live in an extremely safe town and state, compared to the rest of the U.S..........but none of us have our heads in the sand.

They would print it. I get the paper every day here and the Police blotter is printed.

We live in an extremely safe town here. There are those who do not like the Sun for reasons I suspect are political...And they are very vocal on this forum.

That does not mean we should drop our guard but this place is far safer than most places in the U.S. And The Sun is a decent paper. But no place is completely safe. This is every bit as safe as the town we left in Ohio. There are people who will be overly fearful no matter how safe their surroundings are... because of a million reasons.

[MSG@TV]

I didn't see the responses the way it's mentioned above.
The ones upset found the "callers" to be the rude ones; not the other way around.

None of us would go out of our way to be rude to a "church person".
I'm sure we are all raised just fine.

The "authorities" have better things to do than respond to disgruntled folks having their doorbells constantly rung.

What I've said is that we live in a pretty big house and are not always by our front door........we could be on any of the three levels ....or we could be out on the back screened in porch or on the deck or in the backyard.
Every time the doorbell rings to an "uninvited guest" is a hassle as you get older. We don't run as fast as we used to.

I think this is boiling down to who likes to go around and ring people's doorbells to who prefers their uninterrupted privacy.........and the J.W. we get up here are a bit offputting........maybe not as nice as the ones you get at your place in TV.

Also, if you didn't answer the door, how would you know it wasn't someone you might like to see????

We're talking "uninvited annoying solicitors"..............soliciting something we are not interested in.

Just last night we were discussing how THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR we haven't got any local candidates coming to our door on Sunday afternoons...........strange but true. They came for years, handing out fliers or hanging them on front doors........

Also, as this is an "aging neighborhood now".........with all the little ones grown up and moved away..........we don't even get Girl Scouts selling their cookies anymore..........nor the little baseball players selling their raffle tickets...............we always enjoyed them..................that is a big difference from J.W.

I also live in an "aging neighborhood" and do resent when the doorbell rings and interrupts me-it's not for my kids cause they either live elsewhere or admit/meet friends via cell phone contacts. I used to screen callers through an intercom, but that isn't working(another thing I need to fix before putting the house on the market). Anyway, I do get annoyed, but they are usually so polite that I respond in the same manner by saying thanks, but no thanks.

[Taltarzac725]

Jehovah?s Witnesses?Official Website: jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/)

Cannot say I have been ever really interested in what visiting JW missionaries have to say. Above is a link that spells out their believes according to them.

I might have opened the door to missionaries if one of them were an attractive woman. Usually in Palm Harbor it was two 20 something men who would come to the door. And, you could here them coming from a few houses down as the neighbor's dogs would start barking.

[gustavo]

I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife is always wanting to stop in on our friends and neighbors and I tell her we need to call first. I actually take this philosophy one step further, in that I will not answer the phone unless I know someone is going to call me. My friends and neighbors all know this and don't call unless they stop over to let me know in advance.

[quirky3]

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife is always wanting to stop in on our friends and neighbors and I tell her we need to call first. I actually take this philosophy one step further, in that I will not answer the phone unless I know someone is going to call me. My friends and neighbors all know this and don't call unless they stop over to let me know in advance.

Sounds like a Catch-22 to me. People can't stop by if they don't call first, but you won't answer anyone's call unless they stopped by first to let you know they would call....?

[mrfixit]

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife is always wanting to stop in on our friends and neighbors and I tell her we need to call first. I actually take this philosophy one step further, in that I will not answer the phone unless I know someone is going to call me. My friends and neighbors all know this and don't call unless they stop over to let me know in advance.

...:icon_twisted:...ROTFLMAO...:highfive:...

[mickey100]

They would print it. I get the paper every day here and the Police blotter is printed.

We live in an extremely safe town here. There are those who do not like the Sun for reasons I suspect are political...And they are very vocal on this forum.....

I have to shake my head over that one Gracie. Perhaps people like myself don't like the Daily Sun because it just doesn't do a very good job of reporting the news! Time and time again the Sun has not reported on events of importance or they have only reported about half the story. The Sun is an excellent advertising vehicle for the Developer, which is fine, but as far as news, many don't find it to be a good newspaper.

[senior citizen]

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[Matt and Gail]

Oh, this gets better. A couple of weeks ago we called Community Watch to get them out of our neighborhood. We were told that CW could do nothing about it as they were not "soliticing". CW said that they could get in trouble if they said anything to them. Go figure.

That is exactly right. They are not selling anything so no solicitation there. Now if they refuse to leave your property, then that is trespassing and the police will handle that! Everyone beats up CW, but for people who make minimum wage they do a great job watching our community and the are NOT law enforcement! JMHO

[Patty55]

I honestly don't know much about the JW beliefs, my only knowledge is that people find them annoying and that they don't celebrate holidays. They've never come to my home trying to suck me in.

As a Cafeteria Catholic I'm a bit intrigued by the level of commitment these people have.

[senior citizen]

I honestly don't know much about the JW beliefs, my only knowledge is that people find them annoying and that they don't celebrate holidays. They've never come to my home trying to suck me in.

As a Cafeteria Catholic I'm a bit intrigued by the level of commitment these people have.

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[Tweety Bird]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

[loonlovers]

Nice post, Tweety Bird. Agree completely with your sentiments. Say no politely and close the door.

[gerryann]

I also agree. I know quite a few Witness's including my brother and family. They are all good people. Yes, they do go door to door. No, I don't like that they do that, but its their belief and not mine. As long as they are not hurting anyone...so be it.

[tucson]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Excellent post!!!

[MSG@TV]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

I agree; they are so nice that I just say thanks and no thanks.

[Cedwards38]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Outstanding! If the JW's came to his door, WWJD?

[gerryann]

Outstanding! If the JW's came to his door, WWJD?

Good one :)

[gamby]

TWEETY BIRD ;

I could not have said it any better !!

[jflynn1]

Just because we feel we live in a bubble and are somtimes isolated from the outsde world we still have to abide by the laws of the sate and the fedeal government. Certain laws
allow for solicitation. Just tell the solicitor in a friendly manner you are not interested. What is the big deal ?

[2BNTV]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Do I hear an Amen?

[buggyone]

Do I hear an Amen?

Kind of sarcastic reply to a nice post, wasn't it?

I have not had any personal friends who have been Jehova's Witnesses but do know some Mormons. The Mormons also go door-to-door to give out The Book of Mormon and to spread their word. Never have I personally met a Mormon who is not a very nice person. I have been to Utah and have seen how they help each other. I imagine the Jehova's Witnesses are similar in their actions.

The original title of the thread was, "Beware of Jehova's Witnesses". Totally wrong thinking.

If you are not interested in talking with them, just decline politily. No need to be nasty.

[gerryann]

Kind of sarcastic reply to a nice post, wasn't it?

I have not had any personal friends who have been Jehova's Witnesses but do know some Mormons. The Mormons also go door-to-door to give out The Book of Mormon and to spread their word. Never have I personally met a Mormon who is not a very nice person. I have been to Utah and have seen how they help each other. I imagine the Jehova's Witnesses are similar in their actions.

The original title of the thread was, "Beware of Jehova's Witnesses". Totally wrong thinking.

If you are not interested in talking with them, just decline politily. No need to be nasty.

I don't believe that he was being sarcastic. I think he just meant amen meaning the end...over and out....enough already....finished.

[rubicon]

I don't believe in foisting my beliefs on others and of course would want people to respect my privacy. So do I have an amen to that?

[JoeC1947]

I don't believe in foisting my beliefs on others and of course would want people to respect my privacy. So do I have an amen to that?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmen.:pray:

[2BNTV]

Kind of sarcastic reply to a nice post, wasn't it?

I have not had any personal friends who have been Jehova's Witnesses but do know some Mormons. The Mormons also go door-to-door to give out The Book of Mormon and to spread their word. Never have I personally met a Mormon who is not a very nice person. I have been to Utah and have seen how they help each other. I imagine the Jehova's Witnesses are similar in their actions.

The original title of the thread was, "Beware of Jehova's Witnesses". Totally wrong thinking.

If you are not interested in talking with them, just decline politily. No need to be nasty.

I was agreeing with tweety bird's post and wasn't being scarcastic at all.

It's very easy to say thanks but no thanks to a request.

Sometimes the printed word leaves something to be desired.

[2BNTV]

I don't believe in foisting my beliefs on others and of course would want people to respect my privacy. So do I have an amen to that?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmen.:pray:

Amen!!!

[janmcn]

The Jehovah Witnesses are probably taking their lives into their own hands by knocking on Villager's doors, with all the concealed weapons permit holder's revolvers tucked in their socks.

[Patty55]

If you ask me, the Mormons are the worst, they never let up and they look like a bunch of clones.

[looneycat]

they are the advance guard for an alien invasion.......:mmmm: and they eat villagers!!!

[gomoho]

Just because we feel we live in a bubble and are somtimes isolated from the outsde world we still have to abide by the laws of the sate and the fedeal government. Certain laws
allow for solicitation. Just tell the solicitor in a friendly manner you are not interested. What is the big deal ?

The big deal is there is not supposed to be any solicitation in TV. So if we want to allow the Witnesses' do we also need to allow the Fuller Brush Man and the Avon Lady. No solicitation, should mean no solicitation.

[ugotme]

the jehovah witnesses are probably taking their lives into their own hands by knocking on villager's doors, with all the concealed weapons permit holder's revolvers tucked in their socks.

oh please !

[Barefoot]

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

:agree: Good post. It doesn't cost us anything to be polite.

[Cedwards38]

I'm not a biblical scholar. I'm not a Jevohah's Witness. I'm not trying to pass my moral values on to anyone. I'm really not in favor of someone ringing my doorbell and trying to sell me something. I do realize that there is usually a reason why people do the things they do, and it's better if we try to understand that reason and be civil, whether we agree with them or not. Maybe this is the reason for the JWs.


King James Version (KJV)
Matthew Chapter 28, Verses 19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.[/B][/B]

[Gailh]

I was paid a visit by two women claiming to be Jehovah's witnesses. I was surprised, and asked them if they were allowed to solicit, and they said 'yes, it is perfectly legal." I wish I had called Community Watch right away.

[Tweety Bird]

I honestly don't know much about the JW beliefs, my only knowledge is that people find them annoying and that they don't celebrate holidays. They've never come to my home trying to suck me in.

As a Cafeteria Catholic I'm a bit intrigued by the level of commitment these people have.

Jehovah (http://Www.JW.org) is their website. It's really wonderfully informative.

[Bizdoc]

My college room mate had the best solution to door-to-door types of all flavors. We lived in an apartment complex that was 95% students. He would answer the door naked except for his hat. Asked him once why he wore the hat - he said that if you're naked people may think you had just gotten out of the shower and forgotten the towel. But if you have a hat on, they know that you are crazy.

Funny thing is that after a couple weeks, word apparently got around and we weren't bothered by *any* door to door people the rest of the time we lived there.

Rick is retired from a *serious* government job and is a college professor now. And we still enjoy pulling pranks on each other.

[graciegirl]

I don't believe that he was being sarcastic. I think he just meant amen meaning the end...over and out....enough already....finished.

I KNOW in my heart that is what he meant. He is a caring, good and fair man.

I don't think I want to read all that has been said.

Jehovah's Witnesses are easy to spot.They are usually dressed for church, when the rest of us now go to church in our casuals...Either answer the door and accept the literature and thank them or don't answer the door. They aren't there to hurt you. They are doing what they think is right.

It will only take a moment one way or another.

[Indydealmaker]

I was paid a visit by two women claiming to be Jehovah's witnesses. I was surprised, and asked them if they were allowed to solicit, and they said 'yes, it is perfectly legal." I wish I had called Community Watch right away.

I believe it is legal. There are posted signs that say no soliciting in The Villages, but there is no legal authority behind that. It has been previously posted here that Sumter County does not prohibit door to door sales.

[Indydealmaker]

The big deal is there is not supposed to be any solicitation in TV. So if we want to allow the Witnesses' do we also need to allow the Fuller Brush Man and the Avon Lady. No solicitation, should mean no solicitation.

The signs have no legal authority. They are kind of make believe signs like the ones throughout the town squares.

[TheVillageChicken]

The signs have no legal authority. They are kind of make believe signs like the ones throughout the town squares.

Like the ones on dump trucks that say they are not responsible for your broken windshield.

[swimdawg]

Without opening the door, yell out that you're nudists......and then watch them running back to the street!

Works every time......

I love a good laugh on a cold Tuesday evening here in Western New York!

[redwitch]

Sorry, but I don't want anyone knocking on my door that I am not expecting and think
Community Watch should chase them out of here. Religious intolerance - please - we probably have more religious diversity in here than we could know what to do with. Someone even goes by the name of "redwitch".

Yup, and when they come knocking at my door, I invite them to my coven meeting on Friday night (new sacrifices always appreciated). Gets rid of 'em every time.

But it's only "witch" cause my daughter can't type -- she gave me this name.

[DougB]

Yup, and when they come knocking at my door, I invite them to my coven meeting on Friday night (new sacrifices always appreciated). Gets rid of 'em every time.

But it's only "witch" cause my daughter can't type -- she gave me this name.

Hope she didn't typo a "w" instead of a "b". :confused:

[Carl in Tampa]

Well,if they are County roads, who is responsible for the snow remov....errrr....ooops, my bad. :cold::throwtomatoes:

:1rotfl::clap2::a040::MOJE_whot::a040::clap2: :1rotfl:

[redwitch]

Hope she didn't typo a "w" instead of a "b". :confused:

Well, she was a teen and I was her mom (and a relatively strict one at that), so of course it was a B

[Carl in Tampa]

Well, out of curiosity I read all 147 posts.

It seems simple. Like it or not it is apparently legal for religious groups to go door to door in The Villages. No matter how much one may find it objectionable, ranting about it doesn't change anything.

Once that was established, this thread should have been over...............

But a separate theme emerged regarding the theology and behavior of the JWs and the Mormons.

I have relatives who are JWs and very, very close friends who are Mormons. In both cases they are some of the gentlest, finest and most ethical people I know. In both cases I am convinced that their theology is entirely wrong, but I'm sure no one is up for a theological discussion.

If representatives of either group should come to my door I will simply politely turn them away. I think I can manage that with a minimum of inconvenience.

:angel:

[TrudyM]

There have been cases in some parts of the country (not the villages as far as I know) of people posing as JW and Mormons and people working for a charity who are in fact casing neighborhoods to see which houses are unoccupied. I never answer the door, just turn on and off the lights on the porch and tell whomever is there to go away.

[jblum315]

My daughter used to live in Brooklyn where JW has its world headquarters. You would see the young JWs-in-training in their dark slacks and white shirts on the streets. But as far as I know they did not go around Brooklyn ringing doorbells.