No More Twinkies?

[2BNTV]

There's has been a hubbub in the ttri-state area over the Hostess Company going out of business and no more twinkies will be available to the public.

Will you miss twinkies on the grocer shelf or is this a tri-state thingy?

Hostess headed for final closing - Nov. 21, 2012 (http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/21/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

[Mikeod]

There will be more Twinkies. Hostess will sell the name and recipe to another company. The names and rights to the products are their major assets.

I won't miss them. Haven't had a Twinkie for many, many years.

[Figmo Bohica]

Oh, Oh, Oh, No. No more deep fat fried twinkies.

Everyone does know that twinkies are the ultimate survival food. Shelve life of around 100 years with no refrigation required.

[Mack184]

Agree with mikeod..The brands have high asset value and they will be sold off to another major baker and they will continue in production. While I think I can honestly say that I've never once eaten a Twinkie, I do/did like the Hostess cupcakes and Wonder Bread. Remember..Captain Kangaroo told us that Wonder Bread builds strong bodies 12 ways! I always believed the Captain.

[rubicon]

Twinkies will be a thing of the past and since they are well preserved will hold up well in museums.

[jblum315]

Not only Twinkies, but all the beloved Hostess junk food - just a memory!

[Patty55]

I don't like Twinkies, but Yankee Doodles are one of my basic food groups.

[2BNTV]

Twinkies will be a thing of the past and since they are well preserved will hold up well in museums.

:1rotfl:

[2BNTV]

Not only Twinkies, but all the beloved Hostess junk food - just a memory!

:agree:

[2BNTV]

I don't like Twinkies, but Yankee Doodles are one of my basic food groups.

Weren't Yankee Doodles made by Drake?

Also loved Devil Dogs but they don't love me. :cryin2:

[Patty55]

Weren't Yankee Doodles made by Drake?

Also loved Devil Dogs but they don't love me. :cryin2:

Yes, but I think Hostess bought them out, no Devil Dogs at Publix this week.

[BarryRX]

I'm not concerned about Twinkies, but Ding Dongs were delicious!

[ugotme]

Was never a big Twinkies fan but most of the other Hostess products are DELICIOUS ! :icon_hungry:

[delima2000]

My favorites are ding dongs and hohos. My husband likes twinkles and snowballs. I was bummed when i went to Publix and the shelves were empty of all of the hostess products. Hope the new company buys the rights to all of their products.

[shcisamax]

While I think I can honestly say that I've never once eaten a Twinkie, I do/did like the Hostess cupcakes and Wonder Bread. .
How could you grow up in a America and not eat a Twinkie? The cupcakes couldn't hold a candle. As long as they don't go the way of the flavor straws I don't care if it is Hostess or another company. Just hope they don't tinker with the recipe. It is the only junk I can eat without guilt.

[ugotme]

How could you grow up in a America and not eat a Twinkie? The cupcakes couldn't hold a candle. As long as they don't go the way of the flavor straws I don't care if it is Hostess or another company. Just hope they don't tinker with the recipe. It is the only junk I can eat without guilt.


Flavor straws - remember them?

[janmcn]

With the girth of the nation's waistlines, this is probably not a bad thing. Sadly 15,000 people are losing their jobs right in the heart of the holiday season.

[2 Oldcrabs]

Job losses are a shame. But my glucose level is happy.:icon_hungry:

[shcisamax]

I think they discovered flavor straws were actually very bad for your health

[shcisamax]

Remember the wax bottles with liquid inside? Wonder what that sweet liquid was. It sure was good.

[ugotme]

Remember the wax bottles with liquid inside? Wonder what that sweet liquid was. It sure was good.

OH yeah then used to chew on the wax. LOL.

Don't know if you remember blackjack gum, sen-sen, chiclets and so many more.

[Mack184]

How could you grow up in a America and not eat a Twinkie? The cupcakes couldn't hold a candle. As long as they don't go the way of the flavor straws I don't care if it is Hostess or another company. Just hope they don't tinker with the recipe. It is the only junk I can eat without guilt.
I have no guilt about anything food-wise. I eat or drink whatever I want. My mother instilled lots of guilt into me about food & eating, but something made me change when I was 26. When I was 26 my father died of a massive heart attack. At 60 years old he got up every morning of his life and did 100 push-ups & 100 sit-ups. He watched everything he ate. At 60 he could still fit into his WW-2 pilot's uniform. He did not smoke or drink. At 60 years old he was in better physical shape than I have ever been in my whole life, and at 60 years old he dropped dead of a heart attack while taking a walk. This guy's habits would have had my doctor doing cartwheels. His family had a penchant for long, long lives. And then after following all "the rules" he just dropped over dead.

When that happened it changed the way I think about food and how I eat. This doesn't mean I go home at night and suck on a stick of butter, but if I want it, I eat it. Playing by the rules didn't do much for my dad.

As far as how could I not eat a Twinkie? Don't know. Just never had one. I also don't eat candy. Can't stand it. Between the two it probably classifies me as a "commie". LOL.

[Shimpy]

Sadly 15,000 people are losing their jobs right in the heart of the holiday season.

According to the news the reason Hostess is going out of business is because the union is on strike and refuses to go back to work. In todays economy and jobless situation it is unbelievable to me that someone would be on strike when they should be thanking their lucky stars that they even have a job. Now those employees who could have been working won't be and I have no sympathy for them. I do have symphony for those that belong to the union and disagree with striking but wouldn't dare say so or could be physically harmed.

[mgjim]

I haven't had a Twinkie since my kids were in pre-school, but Twinkies figured prominently in one of my all time favorite movies. Also, my favorite baseball team has pretty much played like Twinkies for the past couple of years.

That's a Big Twinkie... - YouTube

[Wi11iam]

There's has been a hubbub in the ttri-state area over the Hostess Company going out of business and no more twinkies will be available to the public.

Will you miss twinkies on the grocer shelf or is this a tri-state thingy?

Hostess headed for final closing - Nov. 21, 2012 (http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/21/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

I liked hostess cup cakes better....you remember it was the only time you would drink your milk...lol..

[LndLocked]

According to the news the reason Hostess is going out of business is because the union is on strike and refuses to go back to work. In todays economy and jobless situation it is unbelievable to me that someone would be on strike when they should be thanking their lucky stars that they even have a job. Now those employees who could have been working won't be and I have no sympathy for them. I do have symphony for those that belong to the union and disagree with striking but wouldn't dare say so or could be physically harmed.

That is far from the truth:

"In order to “save” the firm, the operators of the company turned to the unions, which had already surrendered huge concessions just a few years back to turn the company around, and demanded an across the board slash, an additional 31%, along with eliminating the retirement and benefits entirely. It was a bridge too far. The union went on strike, and now the company has declared it will be liquidated.

in the end the union members would have lost more if they had capitulated to the vulture capitalists demands. By this move, they can hope to salvage the retirement plan, while if they’d given in they would have lost it all. $2 billion is a lot of money to just “give away” in negotiations. Of course the unions were expected to surrender despite the fact that the management company was asking the bankruptcy court to give their outgoing CEO up to $5.5 million. All of this was in addition to the 80% raises the executives were being treated to"

[Mack184]

According to the news the reason Hostess is going out of business is because the union is on strike and refuses to go back to work. In todays economy and jobless situation it is unbelievable to me that someone would be on strike when they should be thanking their lucky stars that they even have a job. Now those employees who could have been working won't be and I have no sympathy for them. I do have symphony for those that belong to the union and disagree with striking but wouldn't dare say so or could be physically harmed.
I don't understand the union leaderships sort of thinking at all. It makes no sense. If I understand the story correctly, the Teamsters had agreed to whatever deal had been offered, but the Baker's union was the group that dug in their heels. It's not like Hostess was making loads of money, they were bankrupt for pete's sake! We're not talking about downtrodden people slaving in coal mines in the 1800's here. Their give-backs would still have allowed them to do better than many people are doing. What a strange & sad outcome.

The bad part of this is that the vast bulk of the workers will have very little luck in getting the kind of jobs at the pay they were used to. While I'm certain that Hostess will sell off it's brand names to other baking companies, while those companies might add a few jobs to their roster, it won't even come close to hiring the number of people who now have no job.

[army one]

I don't understand why so many especially on this forum are so opposed to unions. So many on this forum seem to think that workers can work for whatever is offered by business and business continues to say they can't afford to pay workers but out of the other side of their mouths pay outlandish salaries and benes to execs. It seems to me that many here feel that the workers shouldn't be allowed to make a living wage. Why is that? Most on this forum seem to think it's ok for pro athletes to bargain with team owners thru their agents and players unions but the working person should just shut up and take whatever the business owners think is fair. This, in a perfect world would work fine but corporate GREED gets in the way.

[Lark7]

Maybe, just maybe, greed was prevalent on both the employee and the corporate side. Having said that, the corporation will be liquidated on paper and the employees will be without jobs. Who really lost?

[jblum315]

I suspect they were only paid minimum wage. 15,000 jobs.

[bdabob]

The real tragedy is that in the same month they legalized pot in Washington and Colorado, they closed the Twinkie production!

[Patty55]

I suspect they were only paid minimum wage. 15,000 jobs.

Not if they are Teamsters and Bakers Union.

[Patty55]

The real tragedy is that in the same month they legalized pot in Washington and Colorado, they closed the Twinkie production!

They still make Velveeta and Boone's Farm, it's all good.

[Serenoa]

The chocolate Hostess Cupcakes, or Sno-Balls were always my favorite, more so than Twinkies.

When I was a kid any one of them cost a whoppin 12 cents!

[Mack184]

The real tragedy is that in the same month they legalized pot in Washington and Colorado, they closed the Twinkie production!
Good. Maybe the druggies will starve.

[Villages PL]

I have no guilt about anything food-wise. I eat or drink whatever I want. My mother instilled lots of guilt into me about food & eating, but something made me change when I was 26. When I was 26 my father died of a massive heart attack. At 60 years old he got up every morning of his life and did 100 push-ups & 100 sit-ups. He watched everything he ate. At 60 he could still fit into his WW-2 pilot's uniform. He did not smoke or drink. At 60 years old he was in better physical shape than I have ever been in my whole life, and at 60 years old he dropped dead of a heart attack while taking a walk. This guy's habits would have had my doctor doing cartwheels. His family had a penchant for long, long lives. And then after following all "the rules" he just dropped over dead.

With all due respect for you and your father, I think the above explanation is a bit simplistic. I knew a man like your father; he was my high school math teacher. He was a retired Army Coronel and at age 56 he was in fantastic shape. But he was what they call "type A personality." These are people who create stress in everything they do and, for some, stress can be a killer. For example, what is the purpose of doing 100 push-ups and 100 sit-ups?

It was almost as if my teacher thought he was still in the army. He was lean and muscular and straight as a board. I could see his stress in every movement he made, it was quite noticeable. And he died of a heart attack at age 58.

Sometimes no amount of healthy food can make up for out-of-control stress.

So the lesson to be learned is not that eating healthy doesn't do any good. The lesson to be learned is: In addition to eating healthy, we need to learn how to control stress.

[Mack184]

With all due respect for you and your father, I think the above explanation is a bit simplistic. I knew a man like your father; he was my high school math teacher. He was a retired Army Coronel and at age 56 he was in fantastic shape. But he was what they call "type A personality." These are people who create stress in everything they do and, for some, stress can be a killer. For example, what is the purpose of doing 100 push-ups and 100 sit-ups?

It was almost as if my teacher thought he was still in the army. He was lean and muscular and straight as a board. I could see his stress in every movement he made, it was quite noticeable. And he died at age 58.

Sometimes no amount of healthy food can make up for out-of-control stress.

So the lesson to be learned is not that eating healthy doesn't do any good. The lesson to be learned is: In addition to eating healthy, we need to learn how to control stress.
Your lesson is not my lesson. My father was NOT stressed out. My father was NOT a type-A. He was a very patient, talented, kind, decent man who took time to enjoy life. He was an amazing artist. He wrote poetry. He turned down several opportunities after WW-2 to fly commercially because it was far more important to him to stay at home with his family. Why do the push-ups & sit-ups? He was staying in shape. He had great disipline. He always tried to do the right thing. But he was NOT stressed out. I wish I could be much more like him, and less like me.

[Villages PL]

Your lesson is not my lesson. My father was NOT stressed out. My father was NOT a type-A. He was a very patient, talented, kind, decent man who took time to enjoy life. He was an amazing artist. He wrote poetry. He turned down several opportunities after WW-2 to fly commercially because it was far more important to him to stay at home with his family. Why do the push-ups & sit-ups? He was staying in shape. He had great disipline. He always tried to do the right thing. But he was NOT stressed out. I wish I could be much more like him, and less like me.

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounded like you were making a case against healthy eating. No one ever died because they ate healthy and stayed in shape (unless the healthy eating wasn't all that healthy). Everyone has a different opinion of what healthy eating consists of.

[Mack184]

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounded like you were making a case against healthy eating. No one ever died because they ate healthy and stayed in shape (unless the healthy eating wasn't all that healthy). Everyone has a different opinion of what healthy eating consists of.
I was. For ME. Life-long so-called "healthy eating" habits didn't help my father one single bit. So for ME I now eat what I want when I want it. As I said earlier that doesn't mean I go home at night and suck on a stick of butter, but what it does mean is that I don't care what the Food Police and the other nannies have to say about it. Others can make whatever choices they want for THEIR lives. I've made my own choice.

[ugotme]

I was. For ME. Life-long so-called "healthy eating" habits didn't help my father one single bit. So for ME I now eat what I want when I want it. As I said earlier that doesn't mean I go home at night and suck on a stick of butter, but what it does mean is that I don't care what the Food Police and the other nannies have to say about it. Others can make whatever choices they want for THEIR lives. I've made my own choice.

When push comes to shove all that matters is that you feel good!
Almost ANYTHING in excess is not good for you. But, as you said, you have to make your own choices.

Personally, I basically do what you do - eat whatever I want. Now I grant you I am not in the best of shape (on the heavy side) however at 62 I am lucky that, so far, I have never been in a hospital, take no pills and feel great. Who knows, when the man upstairs comes to get you then. . . it's your time!

[Shimpy]

I was. For ME. Life-long so-called "healthy eating" habits didn't help my father one single bit. So for ME I now eat what I want when I want it. As I said earlier that doesn't mean I go home at night and suck on a stick of butter, but what it does mean is that I don't care what the Food Police and the other nannies have to say about it. Others can make whatever choices they want for THEIR lives. I've made my own choice.

I can understand that........ Hey, might as well light up a cigarette and enjoy yourself.

[Justjac]

Shimpie...you need to google "Hostess CEOs" and you will discover that prior to filing for bankruptcy, the Hostess CEO's all gave themselves wage increases...some from $800,000 to $3 million.

Unions often get bashed for wanting living wages...but the other side of the story often goes unreported. Just saying....

[Justjac]

I don't understand why so many especially on this forum are so opposed to unions. So many on this forum seem to think that workers can work for whatever is offered by business and business continues to say they can't afford to pay workers but out of the other side of their mouths pay outlandish salaries and benes to execs. It seems to me that many here feel that the workers shouldn't be allowed to make a living wage. Why is that? Most on this forum seem to think it's ok for pro athletes to bargain with team owners thru their agents and players unions but the working person should just shut up and take whatever the business owners think is fair. This, in a perfect world would work fine but corporate GREED gets in the way.
So glad to see someone in the Villages say something positive about Unions....Many people don't realize the benefits they would not have if it were not for unions...for starters...weekends and/or holidays off...safe working conditions...ergonomics...

[cathyw]

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[Shimpy]

So glad to see someone in the Villages say something positive about Unions....Many people don't realize the benefits they would not have if it were not for unions...for starters...weekends and/or holidays off...safe working conditions...ergonomics...

An article in todays paper gave a good explaination. Hostess makes Twinkies and Wonder Bread. The union forbid both products, although coming from the same plant, be shipped in the same truck, thus adding additional drivers and trucks. Not only that, workers that loaded twinkies into a truck could not load Wonder Bread and visa versa, adding more union employees. All this added to expenses for the products. An example of unions putting a company out of business as I personally observed at Eastern Air Lines and Pan Am.
My problem is trying to justify if I own a company and want to give people jobs, how can they have the nerve to tell me how much I can pay and what benefits I will provide if I'm within the law? If they don't like it nobody is forcing them to work there. As far as safe working conditions, OSHA is covering that, usually to the extreme. Just my opinion.

[janmcn]

An article in todays paper gave a good explaination. Hostess makes Twinkies and Wonder Bread. The union forbid both products, although coming from the same plant, be shipped in the same truck, thus adding additional drivers and trucks. Not only that, workers that loaded twinkies into a truck could not load Wonder Bread and visa versa, adding more union employees. All this added to expenses for the products. An example of unions putting a company out of business as I personally observed at Eastern Air Lines and Pan Am.
My problem is trying to justify if I own a company and want to give people jobs, how can they have the nerve to tell me how much I can pay and what benefits I will provide if I'm within the law? If they don't like it nobody is forcing them to work there. As far as safe working conditions, OSHA is covering that, usually to the extreme. Just my opinion.

How many years did you work for Eastern Air Lines or Pan Am? I worked there for 25 years, and that's not the way I remember it at all. Frank Lorenzo canabalized EAL, turning all the assets over to his other airline, Continental. He was banned from working in the airline industry ever again, but alas that was too late for Eastern, the damage had been done.

[Mack184]

I can understand that........ Hey, might as well light up a cigarette and enjoy yourself.
Don't smoke..don't drink.

[Mack184]

An article in todays paper gave a good explaination. Hostess makes Twinkies and Wonder Bread. The union forbid both products, although coming from the same plant, be shipped in the same truck, thus adding additional drivers and trucks. Not only that, workers that loaded twinkies into a truck could not load Wonder Bread and visa versa, adding more union employees. All this added to expenses for the products. An example of unions putting a company out of business as I personally observed at Eastern Air Lines and Pan Am.
My problem is trying to justify if I own a company and want to give people jobs, how can they have the nerve to tell me how much I can pay and what benefits I will provide if I'm within the law? If they don't like it nobody is forcing them to work there. As far as safe working conditions, OSHA is covering that, usually to the extreme. Just my opinion.
Agree with you 100%. And don't forget that unions have a long history of being corrupt, mobbed up and are fond of using criminal violence on people who don't agree with them, including their own members.

[ugotme]

Years ago there was a need for unions - even today some are needed.
No, I have never been a union person - always management.

Although they serve a purpose, when a company is told that you can not transport two different products in the same trucks - BULL!

That is the kind of nonsense that (IMO) gives unions a bad name.

[2 Oldcrabs]

Agree with you 100%. And don't forget that unions have a long history of being corrupt, mobbed up and are fond of using criminal violence on people who don't agree with them, including their own members.
I was a shop stewart and executive board member for an IBEW local for 32 years. Not once did I ever witness any violence toward another member or a member of management. I did witness management screwing the company by getting haircuts, shopping and playing golf on company time. They got bonuses for doing nothing special and got promoted when they screwed up. We had a tough time getting COLA raises. The Unions you are talking about have not existed since the early 70's. Senior Management are the ones "lining their pockets".chilout

[Mack184]

I was a shop stewart and executive board member for an IBEW local for 32 years. Not once did I ever witness any violence toward another member or a member of management. I did witness management screwing the company by getting haircuts, shopping and playing golf on company time. They got bonuses for doing nothing special and got promoted when they screwed up. We had a tough time getting COLA raises. The Unions you are talking about have not existed since the early 70's. Senior Management are the ones "lining their pockets".chilout
Take the time--and it will take some time--to read "The Five Families" by NY Times Crime Editor Selwynn Raab. It is a very long, very expansive & very detailed history of organized crime in the USA. When finished with the book one of the things that the reader will find out that US labor unions are very little more than subsidiary businesses of the mafia which includes time right up to the present. It will very clearly retire the notion that union thuggery & dishonesty stopped in the 70's as you suggest. If someone is a union kool-aid drinker, Raab's facts are not going to sway them, but for those who do not partake of the kool-aid, then it is a very shocking, very eye-opening book.

[Villages PL]

I witnessed first hand a union driving a company out of business. This was a long time ago; I was about 20 years old. This was a small manufactring (job shop) company consisting of about 50 employees. It was the time of year to bargan for the yearly cost-of-living raise and management said they couldn't give any raise because they were experiencing financial dificulty. In other words, they didn't have the money.

I went to a union meeting and was the only one to raise my hand to ask a question. I asked: "How do we know that what they're saying isn't true? Maybe they don't have the money for a raise." To that the union leader suggested I was too young and naive to know any better.

So their plan was to stage a work slow-down until the company saw things their way. They did and the company gave in to their demands. A year later the company filed for bankrupcy.

Did anyone tell me I was right to suspect the company was telling the truth? No, of course not. They started saying that the bankruptcy was the fault of management robbing the company. Unions never think they've done anything wrong.

[Bucco]

ON this subject, be aware that labor unions are beginning a MASSIVE, I mean millions of dollars worth of advertising and lobbying to....

Insure that taxes are raised on the rich, but more importantly that all entitlements programs are never on the table for any cuts in spending. Compromise as mentioned by our government is not mentioned at all nor, it appears, will be tolerated !!

[Mack184]

ON this subject, be aware that labor unions are beginning a MASSIVE, I mean millions of dollars worth of advertising and lobbying to....

Insure that taxes are raised on the rich, but more importantly that all entitlements programs are never on the table for any cuts in spending. Compromise as mentioned by our government is not mentioned at all nor, it appears, will be tolerated !!
Gotta agree with you here..and of course the union leadership will spend the dues of union members no matter what the member thinks of their actions. And since dissent within union ranks gets crushed violently, don't expect too much dissention.

It's sort of hard to discuss this end of the subject without running afoul of the Board Police.

[perrjojo]

Anyone here reading Atlas Shrugged?

[Villages PL]

I think the Twinkie Brand should be purchased by the United States Department of Defense. I believe this would be a valuable asset in time of war.

Here's one example: The U.S. could set up a manufacturing facility in South Korea, to be on standby, whereby Twinkie production could be ramped up at a moments notice. If war breaks out between the north and south, we could produce hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Twinkies daily with round-the-clock production.

We could then drop plane load after plane load of individually wrapped Twinkies over enemy forces. Of course the Twinkie wrappers would have all the ingredients listed in Korean, along with a warning that says, "WARNING: EAT TWINKIES RESPONSIBLY....IN MODERATION ONLY." (However, if North Korean troups are poorly supplied, and hungry, it's not likely they would pay any attention to the warning.) This would be in case we later get charged with a war crime.

So if any harm came to North Korean troups, we would be able to say it was their own fault for not taking personal responsibility.

Got humor? :thumbup:

[CarolSells]

"OK, so no more Twinkies, HoHos, and Ding Dongs, and the company that is going under is blaming its demise on striking workers.
I remember reading the ingredients in a HO HO while standing next to the vending machine in the hall near the student union at Framingham State when it was a college instead of the hoity toity University that it has become by decree. I decided while reading all the preservatives in the thing that if I died after eating one I might remain intact for thousands of years until some archeological project would find my perfectly preserved body and wonder what had kept me so.
So I ask you, when is the last time you ate a Twinkie, a HoHo or a Ding Dong? When is the last time you put one into a kid’s lunch box?
That’s right, the company is going under because they refused to change the formula of their anti-health food at a time when people, especially young people are eating healthier. And the outgoing powers that be would rather blame it on their employees."-john hourihan

[Patty55]

I had a Devil Dog last week-it was great.

[Bucco]

"OK, so no more Twinkies, HoHos, and Ding Dongs, and the company that is going under is blaming its demise on striking workers.
I remember reading the ingredients in a HO HO while standing next to the vending machine in the hall near the student union at Framingham State when it was a college instead of the hoity toity University that it has become by decree. I decided while reading all the preservatives in the thing that if I died after eating one I might remain intact for thousands of years until some archeological project would find my perfectly preserved body and wonder what had kept me so.
So I ask you, when is the last time you ate a Twinkie, a HoHo or a Ding Dong? When is the last time you put one into a kid’s lunch box?
That’s right, the company is going under because they refused to change the formula of their anti-health food at a time when people, especially young people are eating healthier. And the outgoing powers that be would rather blame it on their employees."-john hourihan

Not sure why you would post something that is patently untrue !!!!!!!

The Teamster union already had agreed to concessions to keep the company going and this group in another union there will not and is out talking to the press and NEVER DID THE COMPANY BLAME ANYONE.

Actually, the only comment I saw recently was when the aformentioned union who will not take ANY concessions said that a new buyer was needed, the company simply responded by saying that they have tried that and NOBODY as of yet will buy the company and take on the union contracts.

I have absolutely no information about what the specific issues are in this case, thus I will make no pronouncement as you did about the company blaming this union or about the contents being the demise.

This is the problem...NOBODY will really look at the issues....gee you are supposed to be anti company and pro union so Hostess is wrong...OR...you are supposed to be anti union and pro company so the union is wrong.

These are the new knee jerks reactions to the class warfare in this country...we all pick our side and CEASE LISTENING or HEARING

[lovesports]

Not sure why you would post something that is patently untrue !!!!!!!

The Teamster union already had agreed to concessions to keep the company going and this group in another union there will not and is out talking to the press and NEVER DID THE COMPANY BLAME ANYONE.

Actually, the only comment I saw recently was when the aformentioned union who will not take ANY concessions said that a new buyer was needed, the company simply responded by saying that they have tried that and NOBODY as of yet will buy the company and take on the union contracts.

I have absolutely no information about what the specific issues are in this case, thus I will make no pronouncement as you did about the company blaming this union or about the contents being the demise.


This is the problem...NOBODY will really look at the issues....gee you are supposed to be anti company and pro union so Hostess is wrong...OR...you are supposed to be anti union and pro company so the union is wrong.

These are the new knee jerks reactions to the class warfare in this country...we all pick our side and CEASE LISTENING or HEARING

Please take the first line you wrote and apply it to yourself.
Class warfare is an idea of one political party to use in their campaign and bash the other parties' candidate. I have no doubt you believe what you say but I think you need to listen and hear others! Listen to someone other than those who think just like you.

[ilovetv]

Please take the first line you wrote and apply it to yourself.

Class warfare is an idea of one political party to use in their campaign and bash the other parties' candidate. I have no doubt you believe what you say but I think you need to listen and hear others! Listen to someone other than those who think just like you.

Yes, here is a prime example of your statement in bold above:

"You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them....

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

[lovesports]

Boy Howdy...
It's not an example of anything. It's some body's opinion.( you didn't even give source of this opinion.) I came from a very poor rural area in Pa and no one thought like that. As a matter of fact, they are great people, salt of the earth people, and would do anything for anybody. They truly were the friendliest hometown. Young people did leave the area to get jobs and make money. The town was proud we did well.

BACK to the Twinkies...Google why hostess is going into bankruptcy.( Some other company may be making twinkles in the future) Main reason was people aren't buying junk food like they use to. A whole bunch of other reasons too.
There are many good articles about the bankruptcy and not one mentions "class warfare"!

[lovesports]

Good night all. It's late and I'm tired. I'll dream of twinkies.

[2BNTV]

I had a Devil Dog last week-it was great.

I like the way you think. :smiley:

[lovesports]

Look at some of the real reasons for Hostess Going Bankrupt.

1) Hostess bankruptcy didn't leave CEO and top execs with empty pockets - Baltimore Sun (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-11-25/news/bs-ed-hostess-bankruptcy-20121125_1_top-execs-bandits-bakery-workers)

Hostess CEO and top execs made out like bandits

The Baltimore Sun

November 25, 2012

Your recent article about the Hostess Inc. bankruptcy stated that the company blamed its closure on striking workers, but it failed to mention what else was happening as the company was trying to cut bakery workers' pay ("Hostess' shutdown prompts snack rush," Nov. 17).

Indeed, while it was filing for bankruptcy, Hostess tripled its CEO's pay and gave significant salary increases to its top executives. That's some bad HoHo.

or 2) http://www.examiner.com/article/the-real-reasons-hostess-went-bankrupt

the Examiner: The real reasons Hostess went bankrupt

No mention of class warfare. Reread the posts on Twinkies. The recipes will be sold as a major asset and we will still have Twinkies if people will buy them No market, no Twinkies. :icon_hungry:

[Down Sized]

Agree with mikeod..The brands have high asset value and they will be sold off to another major baker and they will continue in production. While I think I can honestly say that I've never once eaten a Twinkie, I do/did like the Hostess cupcakes and Wonder Bread. Remember..Captain Kangaroo told us that Wonder Bread builds strong bodies 12 ways! I always believed the Captain.

This how some bakeries (where I came from) would close down for x number of days then open up under a different name (new owner) to break the union. They would reopen with non-union employes. Some other companies also did the same scenario. They have to close for a ? period of time to make this happen. That is why they wanted to close even before the judge made then negotiate.

[TOTV Team]

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