I have Finally Seen Everything

[2BNTV]

Article in New York Daily News.

I just gave a donation to a ww2 organization in memory of my late uncle to perpetuate WWII veterans so they wouldn't be forgotten.

Now this:

Woman on unpaid leave after taking disrespectful photo next to soldier's grave during work trip - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/vulgar-facebook-pic-woman-canned-article-1.1205609)

[Cantwaittoarrive]

She's old enough to know better. The very people she is disrespecting fought and died so she would have the freedom to express herself so disrespectfully

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

“She had no intention of upsetting or offending anyone. It was poor judgment and she regrets every part of it.”

Really??? Then what was her intention if not to upset and offend?

At least she's on unpaid leave. Hopefully she'll be fired. But the way things are today she'll probably sue her employer for violating her rights, the same rights those veterans fought and died to defend.

[pooh]

The first thing to do when even contemplating this type of photo OP is to engage brain....alas, the two did not.

[eweissenbach]

She's old enough to know better. The very people she is disrespecting fought and died so she would have the freedom to express herself so disrespectfully

Probaby a poor attempt to be funny. Some people just don't get it (meaning the lady in the photo).

[ugotme]

Hate to use it but - one of my favorites:

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID !

:cus:

[BarryRX]

Probaby a poor attempt to be funny. Some people just don't get it (meaning the lady in the photo).

I agree that it was a very poor attempt by the lady in the photo to be funny. I believe that she exercised her right of free speech. Now I think her employer should exercise his right of free speech and fire her stupid butt!

[mgjim]

I agree that it was a very poor attempt by the lady in the photo to be funny. I believe that she exercised her right of free speech. Now I think her employer should exercise his right of free speech and fire her stupid butt!

When I first saw this story, I was having trouble containing my anger at this 30 year old woman who acted like a 12 year old on hallowed ground. I was having trouble trying to put into words how I felt but I think you've captured it quite well. [And I'm probably being unfair to most 12 year olds.]

[Figmo Bohica]

"ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE IS NO MATCH FOR NATURAL STUPIDITY"

Praise our public schools and colleges. This is what they are turning out and the sad thing is, we the people, are allowing them to, and paying them with our tax dollars.

[Golfingnut]

I would leave it up to the folks she cares for at work. They will know better than us voyeurs what she is really like as a person. I try to judge slowly and with more than one photo as I am more concerned with peoples heart and intentions rather than what some others THINK. We have all done things in life we wish would had not done, but don't destroy a young lady without a hearing. It just might have been an attempt to be funny that backfired. If she tells me that was her intent and now apologizes and recognizes it as a dumb mistake then I say build a bridge and get over it. This young lady may very well be someone that donates her time to help veterans.

[billethkid]

in the eyes of some she MAY be entitled to a benefit of the doubt. Spontaneous stupid is one thing.

Intentional stupid is quite another. Allowing that her intent was to be funny does not, in my opinion, give her any leeway for leniency or allowance.

The picture reflects an attitude that is inappropriate and offensive. The fact that she and her friend who took the picture were even additionally more stupid to put additional effort into the vile act by investing the time to show the world in a social media setting.....what she did....only confirms the attitude.

She is very lucky she was not seen by some who would be so offended to take her to task on the spot. And unfortunately in such a case the offender would then be played as the victim.

No sympathy here. She needs to be fired.

btk

[Golfingnut]

JUDGE NOT AND YE SHALL NOT BE JUDGED comes to mind as my Christian background teaches me and also allows me to forgive especially if someone apologizes and asks for it. I just can't see ruining someones life for a error in judgement.

[BobnBev]

I would leave it up to the folks she cares for at work. They will know better than us voyeurs what she is really like as a person. I try to judge slowly and with more than one photo as I am more concerned with peoples heart and intentions rather than what some others THINK. We have all done things in life we wish would had not done, but don't destroy a young lady without a hearing. It just might have been an attempt to be funny that backfired. If she tells me that was her intent and now apologizes and recognizes it as a dumb mistake then I say build a bridge and get over it. This young lady may very well be someone that donates her time to help veterans.

OR, she could be another "Jane Fonda", just sayinbarf

[Golfingnut]

OR, she could be another "Jane Fonda", just sayinbarf

Your 100% correct on that my friend and if that is who she turns out to be, I will be in front of the group asking for her head, as what she did was insensitive, coldhearted etc. etc.; however, I just have a silly hunch, that she made a stupid mistake and is less likely to commit one like that again, even more so than the average person that has never made a mistake like that.

[coach 67]

"ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE IS NO MATCH FOR NATURAL STUPIDITY"

Praise our public schools and colleges. This is what they are turning out and the sad thing is, we the people, are allowing them to, and paying them with our tax dollars.

Thank You for Catholic Schools. Agree this is what public schools are turning out.

[Golfingnut]

time to close this thread.

[billethkid]

when the folks are just warming up? Really?

btk

[2BNTV]

I would leave it up to the folks she cares for at work. They will know better than us voyeurs what she is really like as a person. I try to judge slowly and with more than one photo as I am more concerned with peoples heart and intentions rather than what some others THINK. We have all done things in life we wish would had not done, but don't destroy a young lady without a hearing. It just might have been an attempt to be funny that backfired. If she tells me that was her intent and now apologizes and recognizes it as a dumb mistake then I say build a bridge and get over it. This young lady may very well be someone that donates her time to help veterans.

A lovely post. It would be nice if this triggered a true emotion of volunteering to help veterans. Her family was dismayed at her actions and she was very chastised. Probably wasn't thinking when she did this and then posted on Facebook. All in all, not a smart way to communicate,

Probably, she will get fired. that's her employers decision. Let's hope this young lady has learned her lesson and goes on to be a productive person in her thoughts and actions.

[Golfingnut]

when the folks are just warming up? Really?

btk

Sorry, but on this day of thanksgiving, to slander any part of this great country is disturbing to me. We all have opinions, but does that make the other mans opinions wrong? I think not. So I would rather say thank God for all the opinions and positions that make America the wonderful place it is.

[Golfingnut]

A lovely post. It would be nice if this triggered a true emotion of volunteering to help veterans. Her family was dismayed at her actions and she was very chastised. Probably wasn't thinking when she did this and then posted on Facebook. All in all, not a smart way to communicate,

Probably, she will get fired. that's her employers decision. Let's hope this young lady has learned her lesson and goes on to be a productive person in her thoughts and actions.

Bingo. I want to be on your team. This is the way I try to think about anyone and everyone. When or If they prove me wrong, then I will throw a stone or two, but not before I review ALL the facts.

[TOTV Team]

Political references have/will be removed. Please keep comments directed at the OP topic and thanks in advance.

[LynnDeb]

Hate to use it but - one of my favorites:

YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID !

:cus:
:agree:

[duffysmom]

Here's the problem I have with this 30 year old woman. The fact that she thought this was funny and posted it shows a marked lack of sensetivity and a mean spirit. Yes, you need to have a mean streak to go to the Arlington National Cemetary and make an effort to disrespect those that died in the service of our country. To visit Arlington National Cemetary is extremely moving and this is her take away. But for me the real problem is her job, working with people with disabilities; her mean spirit is not what a non profit organization should represent and she, like it or not, represents her organization who by the way, paid for her to be ignorant and disrepectful. She has owned her mistake but she needs to pay for it as well.

[janmcn]

NBC News is reporting the woman in the photo and her friend that took the photo have been fired by their employer, Life.

[Bucco]

"ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE IS NO MATCH FOR NATURAL STUPIDITY"

Praise our public schools and colleges. This is what they are turning out and the sad thing is, we the people, are allowing them to, and paying them with our tax dollars.

The government presently not only pays for their education, it also pays for their books, gives them spending money, a cell phone under certain conditions and then when they DO get fired, pay for and defend them in court and solicit them to sue the guy that fired them !!!!!!!

And it is and will get worse, unfettered !

[Serenoa]

"ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE IS NO MATCH FOR NATURAL STUPIDITY" Praise our public schools and colleges. This is what they are turning out and the sad thing is, we the people, are allowing them to, and paying them with our tax dollars.

My public school taught me reading, writing & arithmetic.
My PARENTS taught me what is right & wrong, and that there will always be consequences for my actions.

[Barefoot]

in the eyes of some she MAY be entitled to a benefit of the doubt. Spontaneous stupid is one thing. Intentional stupid is quite another.

She has stated she didn't mean to offend anyone and the picture was taken for her own amusement. :ohdear: And then she posted it on Facebook so she could share the fun. How could anyone find this deliberate disrespect amusing?

[Figmo Bohica]

My public school taught me reading, writing & arithmetic.
My PARENTS taught me what is right & wrong, and that there will always be consequences for my actions.

There in lies the problem, Serenoa. Public schools no longer teach readin' writin' and arithmetic'n and parents no longer teach their children right and wrong and there never are any consequences for anything they do. Mom or Dad or both will be there to defend their little darlin' no matter if their little darlin' is a jerk, stupid or in the wrong.

When schools are graduating students that can not read, write or do math, something is wrong with our education system.

[billethkid]

that loud sound we just heard is the hammer hitting the nail squarely on the head!!!!!

btk

[ugotme]

When you see a child acting like an obnoxious brat you look at the parent! When that parent is paying NO attention to the child and/or telling him that he MAY go to "time-out" therein lies the problem.

Not pretending here to be the perfect parent but when my son used to start throwing a fit in a restaurant either my wife or I would take him outside. Today some parents just ignore this and think their precious child is doing no wrong - they don't want to be bothered.

Sorry but I never BEAT my kid but he got a whack now and then AS NEEDED !

Okay, I can hear some people calling me names now. But thankfully my son has grown up to be a very respectful and courteous person.

Okay - I'm done !

[billethkid]

hey ugotme, there is no shame in having disciplined a child.....and a good whack when one is deserved is nothing to be ashamed of....somehow I survuved and most my age and I got my share of deserved whacks as most of us did. And I did so on my kids.

I see no value added by the permissive, passive, no impact "discipline"(?) of today's youth.

Parents are more into talking or texting than they are to paying attention to their children's needs (including a good whack). THere are still some who subscribe to discipline, but all too quickly declining in numbers.

I thought I would throw one time not long ago listening to one of my grandchildren explain how they were instructed to report their parents to the school counselors for how they were treated. As a result far too many parents hide behind such BS......

Once agian another event that makes me so glad I am of the generation I am proud to be a part of.......

btk

[Mack184]

My public school taught me reading, writing & arithmetic.
My PARENTS taught me what is right & wrong, and that there will always be consequences for my actions.
Actually I had a number of teachers who also taught and/or reinforced the right & wrong being taught to me at home.

[buggyone]

The government presently not only pays for their education, it also pays for their books, gives them spending money, a cell phone under certain conditions and then when they DO get fired, pay for and defend them in court and solicit them to sue the guy that fired them !!!!!!!

And it is and will get worse, unfettered !

Who are the "THEM" in your post? It certainly is not ALL young people. The military is all-volunteer now and those are some mighty fine young people. Most of the volunteers in the military were probably the products of public school with free books, free cell phones if they were from poor backgrounds, and the right to free counsel has been part of the "Miranda" warning since 1966.

The stupid girl in the photo deserves all the grief that has been and will be heaped on her. Chances are that photo will follow her for a long time and she will remain unemployed - and might even get a free cell phone.

[Bucco]

Who are the "THEM" in your post? It certainly is not ALL young people. The military is all-volunteer now and those are some mighty fine young people. Most of the volunteers in the military were probably the products of public school with free books, free cell phones if they were from poor backgrounds, and the right to free counsel has been part of the "Miranda" warning since 1966.

The stupid girl in the photo deserves all the grief that has been and will be heaped on her. Chances are that photo will follow her for a long time and she will remain unemployed - and might even get a free cell phone.

I sure hope the admin does not mind me responding directly since you spoke directly to me...wont take long,,

1. Not sure how the military got involved here, as I never mentioned anyone in military. I referred to the generic that was being used in the thread.

2. I have absolutely no idea what Miranda has to do with legal counsel at all in anyway ! Miranda means you do not have to talk without counsel but it does not guarantee payment for counsel.

3. I did not see anyone defending that gal at all.

Sorry it took me so long !

[buggyone]

I sure hope the admin does not mind me responding directly since you spoke directly to me...wont take long,,

1. Not sure how the military got involved here, as I never mentioned anyone in military. I referred to the generic that was being used in the thread.

2. I have absolutely no idea what Miranda has to do with legal counsel at all in anyway ! Miranda means you do not have to talk without counsel but it does not guarantee payment for counsel.

3. I did not see anyone defending that gal at all.

Sorry it took me so long !

You and I are not in disagreement about this whatsoever. I mentioned the military as not all young people should be put into the unpatriotic and stupid category. Some, like the military, are fine, young people. Poor people are afforded public defenders - I have no problem with that. That gal is garbage.

[Mack184]

In a world where those aged from 12-34 control the popular culture we have come to expect this sort of childish and downright stupid behavior as people race to find their 15 seconds of fame. Yes I know the quote is 15 minutes of fame, but in today's world it's closer to 15 seconds.

If you have lots of time to waste and have plenty of Pepto-Bismol on hand take a look at the junk that passes for important news on places like YouTube and FarceBook. Many people have no concept of the fact that when they put up all these stupid pictures and videos that they have a half-life that's longer than nuclear waste and will eventually come back to bite you good and solid, especially when you go job hunting.

Today's popular culture hardly discourages the kind of activity that this woman did, and unfortunately in too many circles it is celebrated. Expect things to get worse and not better.

[Rebel Pirate]

2. I have absolutely no idea what Miranda has to do with legal counsel at all in anyway ! Miranda means you do not have to talk without counsel but it does not guarantee payment for counsel.

Sorry it took me so long !

Here is an excerpt from the standard Miranda warning:

"You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense."

[Bucco]

Here is an excerpt from the standard Miranda warning:

"You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense."

Thanks for the correction and I apologize for saying something not true,

You would think with all the cop shows that I would know that, but when I hear Mirenda, I think only of the questioning and not the counsel itself.

Thanks and again and sorry for my error.

[Mack184]

Here is an excerpt from the standard Miranda warning:

"You have the right to be speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense."
I've never had this problem, and hope never to have it in the future, but I wonder who decides what cannot be afforded..and gets the freebie lawyer??

[2BNTV]

I was just wondering if today's cultural social media has placed too much importance on having to know something right away. This has possibly led to some people who have a self imposed importance of what they have to say is so great, that it must be made available to the world.

When I see some of thoughtless tweets, it makes me think it would have be better to, not being said. I was always careful that something that needed to be communicated was not to be put in the printed word form but that's me.

Just sayin.....

[Cantwaittoarrive]

In a world where those aged from 12-34 control the popular culture we have come to expect this sort of childish and downright stupid behavior as people race to find their 15 seconds of fame. Yes I know the quote is 15 minutes of fame, but in today's world it's closer to 15 seconds.

If you have lots of time to waste and have plenty of Pepto-Bismol on hand take a look at the junk that passes for important news on places like YouTube and FarceBook. Many people have no concept of the fact that when they put up all these stupid pictures and videos that they have a half-life that's longer than nuclear waste and will eventually come back to bite you good and solid, especially when you go job hunting.

Today's popular culture hardly discourages the kind of activity that this woman did, and unfortunately in too many circles it is celebrated. Expect things to get worse and not better.

:agree:

[ugotme]

hey ugotme, there is no shame in having disciplined a child.....and a good whack when one is deserved is nothing to be ashamed of....somehow I survuved and most my age and I got my share of deserved whacks as most of us did. And I did so on my kids.

I see no value added by the permissive, passive, no impact "discipline"(?) of today's youth.

Parents are more into talking or texting than they are to paying attention to their children's needs (including a good whack). THere are still some who subscribe to discipline, but all too quickly declining in numbers.

I thought I would throw one time not long ago listening to one of my grandchildren explain how they were instructed to report their parents to the school counselors for how they were treated. As a result far too many parents hide behind such BS......

Once agian another event that makes me so glad I am of the generation I am proud to be a part of.......

btk


Oh trust me BTK I feel no shame whatsoever in doling out discipline. I feel shame for the parents and kids who will grow up to be obnoxious and do things like this girl did.

[Barefoot]

In a world where those aged from 12-34 control the popular culture we have come to expect this sort of childish and downright stupid behavior as people race to find their 15 seconds of fame. Yes I know the quote is 15 minutes of fame, but in today's world it's closer to 15 seconds.

If you have lots of time to waste and have plenty of Pepto-Bismol on hand take a look at the junk that passes for important news on places like YouTube and FarceBook. Many people have no concept of the fact that when they put up all these stupid pictures and videos that they have a half-life that's longer than nuclear waste and will eventually come back to bite you good and solid, especially when you go job hunting.

Today's popular culture hardly discourages the kind of activity that this woman did, and unfortunately in too many circles it is celebrated. Expect things to get worse and not better.

Great post! :thumbup: