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LynnDeb
12-11-2012, 11:30 PM
Hi everyone,
What is the average age of people living in TV?
Thanks, LynnDeb
Villager Dude
12-11-2012, 11:39 PM
Hi everyone,
What is the average age of people living in TV?
Thanks, LynnDeb
I heard it was 67 but I have no facts to base that on, just overheard it some time ago.
LynnDeb
12-12-2012, 12:26 AM
I heard it was 67 but I have no facts to base that on, just overheard it some time ago.
Thank you, we are 59 & 61 looking to buy in older section w little to no bond
mrfixit
12-12-2012, 03:29 AM
Hi everyone,
What is the average age of people living in TV?
Thanks, LynnDeb
Have no idea about average ages.....BUT.....
.......We moved here 4+ years ago and feel about 10 years younger already.
jimbo2012
12-12-2012, 05:10 AM
Thank you, we are 59 & 61 looking to buy in older section w little to no bond
Don't base your location on a bond, it cost $3 a day.
At your age you will find younger people in the new areas south of 466-a. :coolsmiley:
There is a different camaraderie here sharing things, so much more in common with your neighbors.
U would be dealing with generational differences, been there seen it first hand.
graciegirl
12-12-2012, 05:13 AM
Don't base your location on a bond, it cost $3 a day.
At your age you will find younger people in the new areas south of 466-a. :coolsmiley:
There is a different camaraderie here sharing things, so much more in common with your neighbors.
U would be dealing with generational differences, been there seen it first hand.
Bob. If you see it first hand you are hanging around with the wrong group.
When you move here you will find a bunch of people who all have a 16 year old hidden inside of them. If you recognise that 16 year old, you are in for a joyful ride. You will find a group of people with at LEAST five decades of life experiences who have worked for a long time, experienced sadness and disappointment, frustration and pain and have had a lot of successes and wonderful moments. Seniors are thought to be a little wiser and a little more compassionate for good reason.
We do NOT need to encourage age bias in this place. It is a silly and hurtful concept.
2 Oldcrabs
12-12-2012, 06:07 AM
Average age:"Too old to work, Too young to die". It does not matter, you will be welcomed where ever you chose.:welcome:
gomoho
12-12-2012, 06:36 AM
The average ae is "young at heart" and that is all that really matters.
cquick
12-12-2012, 06:38 AM
I think you will find people of all ages in every neighborhood.....I don't think it's necessarily true that you need to buy a new house to be near 'younger' people. We had many people near our age in our villa neighborhood in Summerhill.....and I would buy in the "historical" section if I found a house there I loved......you can make friends everywhere.
Madelaine Amee
12-12-2012, 07:06 AM
Hi everyone,
What is the average age of people living in TV? Thanks, LynnDeb
It makes me cringe when I hear people mention "age" in TV. It is so not a matter of concern to almost any of us here. It was the very last thing on my mind when we looked for a house, the home itself was the most important thing, certainly not the age of the neighborhood. After all you can get some really "young" people living here who are definitely old beyond their years.
The only time "age" even comes into my mind is when I see an older man with a trophy wife, then I might sit up and take notice - and the other half certainly does, and I remind him he cannot afford a trophy wife unless he wants to move to a tar paper shack!
kittygilchrist
12-12-2012, 07:14 AM
yeah, I'm younger and moving to Gilchrist! I started out looking for the least expensive way to get here then heard that most people buy more than 2 places before they get what they really want. So I'm building south of 466a and look forward to living happily ever after.
Miss Kitty
graciegirl
12-12-2012, 07:22 AM
It makes me cringe when I hear people mention "age" in TV. It is so not a matter of concern to almost any of us here. It was the very last thing on my mind when we looked for a house, the home itself was the most important thing, certainly not the age of the neighborhood. After all you can get some really "young" people living here who are definitely old beyond their years.
The only time "age" even comes into my mind is when I see an older man with a trophy wife, then I might sit up and take notice - and the other half certainly does, and I remind him he cannot afford a trophy wife unless he wants to move to a tar paper shack!
Pearls of wisdom.
Cantwaittoarrive
12-12-2012, 07:22 AM
Bob. If you see it first hand you are hanging around with the wrong group.
When you move here you will find a bunch of people who all have a 16 year old hidden inside of them. If you recognise that 16 year old, you are in for a joyful ride. You will find a group of people with at LEAST five decades of life experiences who have worked for a long time, experienced sadness and disappointment, frustration and pain and have had a lot of successes and wonderful moments. Seniors are thought to be a little wiser and a little more compassionate for good reason.
We do NOT need to encourage age bias in this place. It is a silly and hurtful concept.
:agree:We are in the earlier part of our 50's and have found that it's easy to be included. Actually sometimes too easy to be included and have had to re-learn how to say no. We have not found anyone that holds our age against us. Everyone here is young at heart and I don't know where all of the energy comes from!
Bill-n-Brillo
12-12-2012, 07:26 AM
"Age" is a number - a chronological measurement of time. To me, what matters most is each person's state of mind about things.
Bill :)
Count'n the days
12-12-2012, 07:57 AM
I can only speak as someone who has moved into a new developing village where everyone is new to the village and actively searching for a new social network. It is great! I can't wait to get everything organized so I can get knee deep in all the activities offered in TV. I find "New Villagers" come in all ages from all parts and it's so interesting getting to know them. I'm sure the villagers that have been here awhile are as well, I just haven't had the pleasure of meeting any of them yet. I don't know that if I had moved into a village that had been established for awhile if I would be experiencing the same camaraderie as we are all learning the ropes together. Of course there's something said for moving into a village where most folks have been there for while and already know the ropes. I think which ever way you go you'll just be happy to get here!
senior citizen
12-12-2012, 08:07 AM
"Age" is a number - a chronological measurement of time. To me, what matters most is each person's state of mind about things.
Bill :)
I agree with Bill and Brillo. Age is just a number. We've had dear friends and neighbors up here, now deceased, who used to be the life of every party.......in a good way....not in an alchoholic stupor.
They were invited by all of us younger couples (all the time).......
WE miss them. They were so much fun to have around.
They were surrogate grandparents to our own children, etc.
What is nice about our present neighborhood is we have seen everything come full circle..........those who were in their early 20's when we bought, now share the joy of grandbabies of their own, with us.........
We are now the senior citizens as the elders died off...........
The "young set" are now the 50 somethings with grown adult children and grandchildren.........and it is so nice to get pics in the Christmas cards of all these new family members.........
We just wonder "where did all the years go???"............
In answer to the other person.........I've seen folks still in their late 40's doing the lifestyle visit.........so I guess age does not matter. I'd prefer to be in a neighborhood of mixed ages..........where each generation can share with the next and the one before it......although it is true that same aged people can relate MUCH MORE EASILY to each other..........such as those who remember their parents talking about Pearl Harbor and such.
Or folks who recall where they were when J.F.K. was assassinated.
2BNTV
12-12-2012, 08:25 AM
I also agree that age is a number as one has to consider one's health and their outlook on life. If their outlook is positive and enjoy people, that's all that matters.
People come in different shapes and sizes as well as their chronological age. I have known some people when in their twenties that acted like their were eighties and I have seen some people in their eighties that had the oulook of a person in their twenties. Age is overated.
The last time I was in TV, a 87 year old man was out having drinks with his running buddies who were in their fifties. They enjoyed his company and cared a great deal about him.
PaPaLarry
12-12-2012, 08:45 AM
:coolsmiley::clap2::BigApplause:Age????? What age!!!! My philosophy since enjoying life in The Villages is " Growing old is Mandatory, but Growing up is Optional" . I haven't grown up yet. Enjoying all the nicier people I've met, (stay away from the grumps) and still feel young. Plus, have such a nice lady in my life who keeps me healthy and loved. How can I get old???? What a great life we have here. Merry Christmas everyone:bigbow::ho:
graciegirl
12-12-2012, 08:52 AM
:coolsmiley::clap2::BigApplause:Age????? What age!!!! My philosophy since enjoying life in The Villages is " Growing old is Mandatory, but Growing up is Optional" . I haven't grown up yet. Enjoying all the nicier people I've met, (stay away from the grumps) and still feel young. Plus, have such a nice lady in my life who keeps me healthy and loved. How can I get old???? What a great life we have here. Merry Christmas everyone:bigbow::ho:
With the permission of the nice young lady in your life...I just love you too!! Always so friendly and positive and helpful and full of laughter.
Merry Christmas PapaLarry and mamma too.
alemorkam
12-12-2012, 09:09 AM
I agree with earlier post. Do not base you choice on Bond. You will not even know its there. Being happy with your choice of neighborhood is much more important than 3.00 a day.
CaptJohn
12-12-2012, 02:47 PM
The average age is "young at heart" and that is all that really matters.
That's my take on it also. Gracie may be sweet 16 and I'm 21 at heart but if you're having fun it'll work.
Many good posts on this from everyone.
Down Sized
12-12-2012, 03:06 PM
Don't base your location on a bond, it cost $3 a day.
At your age you will find younger people in the new areas south of 466-a. :coolsmiley:
There is a different camaraderie here sharing things, so much more in common with your neighbors.
U would be dealing with generational differences, been there seen it first hand.
I play pickleball with people and that is what they say was a big mistake for them. Move north of 466 for housing prices and got into a generation gap. Especially if your single.
:bigbow::bigbow::clap2::agree:
Down Sized
12-12-2012, 03:16 PM
yeah, I'm younger and moving to Gilchrist! I started out looking for the least expensive way to get here then heard that most people buy more than 2 places before they get what they really want. So I'm building south of 466a and look forward to living happily ever after.
Miss Kitty
You definitely made the right choice. I think you will find most of us SSB's (Single Baby Boomers) live south of 466. Even younger on each side of 466A. Good luck on your journey. :coolsmiley:
rubicon
12-12-2012, 03:24 PM
It causes me to pause when someone says Äge is just a number", or 40 is the new 50 and 50 the new 60 or you look so much younger than your age.
It is what it is
PaPaLarry
12-12-2012, 03:25 PM
With the permission of the nice young lady in your life...I just love you too!! Always so friendly and positive and helpful and full of laughter.
Merry Christmas PapaLarry and mamma too. Thanks Gracie!!! You too always seem so posotive, with excellent responses, of friendlinest to everyone. Merry Christmas back to you and yours!! :ho::wave::jester::mademyday:
Bill-n-Brillo
12-12-2012, 03:27 PM
It causes me to pause when someone says Äge is just a number", or 40 is the new 50 and 50 the new 60 or you look so much younger than your age.
It is what it is
Tell me - do I look tall for my height? :shocked:
:1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:
:jester:
Bill :)
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Thank you, we are 59 & 61 looking to buy in older section w little to no bond
I'm 61 and my wife is much, much younger than I. We live in the oldest section of the Villages and we have met many, many people in our neighborhood that are my age and younger. We get along with a lot of people that are older than us. My wife who is much younger than everyone here gets along well with everyone. In fact, she has more problems with people her own age that she works with.
I haven't seen any problems with people of different generations.
billethkid
12-12-2012, 03:40 PM
when ever this subject....the younger section or the younger folks or I am 60 and want to be around my age....etc....etc...
it conveys one message....the person has no idea what TV really is and those at 60 looking at 70 as old is incorrect....it only means they are "older" and not neccessarily old.
There are 70 + and 80+ folks here who are more active tha a lot of the so called "younger" at 55 or 60 or 65.
If you approach a place to live based on the age of the neigbors you will accomplish one objective for sure.....
you will miss out on the better places to live by using a faulty measurement.
You will learn soon eneough that the age is nothing more than a number recorded some where. Has nothing to do with outlook, activity, drive, desire, etc, etc.....take heed to the words offered that we all have a 16 year locked inside.
Young at heart and young attitude.....will keep one youngER.
btk
janmcn
12-12-2012, 03:49 PM
I agree with earlier post. Do not base you choice on Bond. You will not even know its there. Being happy with your choice of neighborhood is much more important than 3.00 a day.
Three dollars per day is $1095 per year. That's not chump change to some people. Why pay it when you don't have to?
Down Sized
12-12-2012, 03:57 PM
Three dollars per day is $1095 per year. That's not chump change to some people. Why pay it when you don't have to?
About beer money for a month for many here. Or a weekend to a ball game.
Down Sized
12-12-2012, 03:59 PM
when ever this subject....the younger section or the younger folks or I am 60 and want to be around my age....etc....etc...
it conveys one message....the person has no idea what TV really is and those at 60 looking at 70 as old is incorrect....it only means they are "older" and not neccessarily old.
There are 70 + and 80+ folks here who are more active tha a lot of the so called "younger" at 55 or 60 or 65.
If you approach a place to live based on the age of the neigbors you will accomplish one objective for sure.....
you will miss out on the better places to live by using a faulty measurement.
You will learn soon eneough that the age is nothing more than a number recorded some where. Has nothing to do with outlook, activity, drive, desire, etc, etc.....take heed to the words offered that we all have a 16 year locked inside.
Young at heart and young attitude.....will keep one youngER.
btk
I bet your are not single.
Villages Kahuna
12-12-2012, 04:01 PM
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mgjim
12-12-2012, 05:19 PM
When I was in TV on my LSV recently, my sales rep mentioned that the average age of TV residents was somewhere between 20 and 120, she wasn't exactly sure. That's perfect for me as I, too, am somewhere between 20 and 120. Unfortunately, I misplaced my birth certificate so I cannot verify my exact age.
eweissenbach
12-12-2012, 05:33 PM
Hi everyone,
What is the average age of people living in TV?
Thanks, LynnDeb
Thank you, we are 59 & 61 looking to buy in older section w little to no bond
With all due respect; Who cares? If you move into the "historic section" you will be much younger than the average, but what difference does that make? I have lived in neighborhoods where most homeowners were much older, and in recent years, we have lived in neighborhoods where most homeowners were much younger. In both cases, it did not alter our life in any way.
If you like to play loud hip-hop music and have parties until the wee hours of the morning on your lanai, you probably should stay where you are, assuming your current neighbors are okay with it. If you want to come to a "retirement community", and live an active life consistent with that concept, you will probably find yourself well accepted and content.
jimbo2012
12-12-2012, 05:56 PM
Three dollars per day is $1095 per year. That's not chump change to some people. Why pay it when you don't have to?
Do U really think U wouldn't be paying it, just because it is paid????
If my neighbor was selling their house for $150K and they still had a bond, and my bond was was paid should I sell my same value house for $150K also?
I don't think so, I would want more...............no free ride
You're paying one way or another.
manaboutown
12-12-2012, 07:11 PM
This shows the 2010 median age for men to be 67 and the median age for women to be 64. The Villages, FL Demographics Summary - CLRSearch (http://www.clrsearch.com/The-Villages-Demographics/FL)
billethkid
12-12-2012, 07:15 PM
correct I am not single.
However I will venture a bet what you want to accomplish will be more a function of the social circles/circuit you travel in than where your house is located.
Those social arenas will be attained from ANYWHERE in TV.
I certainly would not want my horizons limited by the demographics of my neighbors/neighborhood.....In my humble opinion.
You will find that age is a very narrow parameter the younger one is.....and the older one is it becomes a very wide parameter as the the young 70 year olds and the old 50/60 year olds will show you.
Good luck.
btk
USCGretired
12-12-2012, 08:11 PM
We are 59 & 60, moved into an older section and could not be happier, the neighbors have been wonderful!
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-12-2012, 10:26 PM
The older I get, the younger everyone else appears to be.
mrfixit
12-13-2012, 02:00 AM
Thank you, we are 59 & 61 looking to buy in older section w little to no bond
Please explain your reasoning with the "little or no bond".
I just do not get it........
In My Humble Opinion.............what are you saving???
You get an OLDER home with NO bond........it is say 15 years old.....
...................
You may....need a new shingles .
.(if only need shingles,drip edge, fascia & gutters)..................... $4900.
......then, maybe also ..........
....water heater replaced.......................................... ...........800.
....appliances in kitchen....(YES, we deserve them)................4000.
....Washer & Dryer............................................. ...............1000.
....faucets and fixtures & shower doors ...............................4000.
....basic counters for kitchen & bath(s).................................3000.
....a little painting...(inside)............................... ..................1100.
....carpet "sniffy"...or worn....did they have pets :) ?..............3300.
....Heat and AIR needs replaced SOON...:faint:......................4400.
...AND ..:ohdear:
if a mortgage is needed, none of the above can be rolled into the 3.75%
...BUT...have spent over $ 26 Grand and got to deal :boxing2: with a lot of contractors...:MOJE_whot:....
...AND... you have a home that does NOT :shocked: meet the new hurricane/wind standards...... NO New Home Warranty...
WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! who said the garage door(s) will need new springs
and rollers an New door operators...:boom:....Didn't expect that....
:oops: OH CRAP..just looked outside
............the caulking around the windows is all dried out :shrug:
:pray: ......sure hope there are no more surprises.
...OH YEAH the contractor said the insulation is not adequate... now what ?
graciegirl
12-13-2012, 06:33 AM
Please explain your reasoning with the "little or no bond".
I just do not get it........
In My Humble Opinion.............what are you saving???
You get an OLDER home with NO bond........it is say 15 years old.....
...................
You may....need a new shingles .
.(if only need shingles,drip edge, fascia & gutters)..................... $4900.
......then, maybe also ..........
....water heater replaced.......................................... ...........800.
....appliances in kitchen....(YES, we deserve them)................4000.
....Washer & Dryer............................................. ...............1000.
....faucets and fixtures & shower doors ...............................4000.
....basic counters for kitchen & bath(s).................................3000.
....a little painting...(inside)............................... ..................1100.
....carpet "sniffy"...or worn....did they have pets :) ?..............3300.
....Heat and AIR needs replaced SOON...:faint:......................4400.
...AND ..:ohdear:
if a mortgage is needed, none of the above can be rolled into the 3.75%
...BUT...have spent over $ 26 Grand and got to deal :boxing2: with a lot of contractors...:MOJE_whot:....
...AND... you have a home that does NOT :shocked: meet the new hurricane/wind standards...... NO New Home Warranty...
WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! who said the garage door(s) will need new springs
and rollers an New door operators...:boom:....Didn't expect that....
:oops: OH CRAP..just looked outside
............the caulking around the windows is all dried out :shrug:
:pray: ......sure hope there are no more surprises.
...OH YEAH the contractor said the insulation is not adequate... now what ?
Mr. Fixit...you are a hoot, but you do know how to get your point made and with humor and with no meanness. I ALWAYS enjoy your posts. Merry Christmas!!
To the ones who don't want to move too near a bunch of older folks.
JUST WAIT.
Merry Christmas to all. The coffee is brewing, the tree is lit. First batch of cookies are in the oven and here I am close to my neighbors from precisely 52 to I am not tellin' on her 80 something. WHO CARES?????
I ALWAYS wonder when someone says that they want to live close to people of their age..........what do we do or not do that a person who is younger or older does or does not do? If the person who is younger says it, does it mean they think that those who are older are all invalids, will act like their mother, dress funny, don't have sex, aren't good at pick one...golf, pickleball, bicyling, bowling, conversation, brushing their teeth? Do they think they have forgotten what it is like to raise their children, work, make ends meet, try to get along with others, enjoy life???
It just isn't very kind to say stuff like that. It is age bias in a retirement community. Stop it. We have a girls posse you know and we can load those squirt guns in a heart beat.
Just KIDDING! (about the girls posse...well maybe not)
senior citizen
12-13-2012, 07:38 AM
I'm 61 and my wife is much, much younger than I. We live in the oldest section of the Villages and we have met many, many people in our neighborhood that are my age and younger. We get along with a lot of people that are older than us. My wife who is much younger than everyone here gets along well with everyone. In fact, she has more problems with people her own age that she works with.
I haven't seen any problems with people of different generations.
Words of wisdom. WE have always lived in a neighborhood with great neighbors who were young to older........
Once we were the younger, then the younger with children, then with teens, then with college aged and finally THE EMPTY NEST.
Now, we and our neighbors are ALL the empty nest for the most part.
Our kids all come to visit for extended visits; most have to fly home.
Some have long drives home.........but we all know when our neighbors kids are "home" by the cars in the driveway.
Our adult kids' FRIENDS all keep in touch with us on a weekly or daily even basis........via emails and such. These are all the kids (now parents themselves) who we saw grow up from nursery school, kindergarten age and then elementary, high school and college years.........
They all say that we are "YOUNG AT HEART".........it is the highest compliment when younger folks keep in touch all year round........or drop by to see us.........or send us pics of their new "little ones" or schoolaged chidlren..........
Age doesn't matter when the generations "get along" with each other.
When we were young we had dear elderly friends in the neighborhood.
They are all deceased now, but we still remember and talk about them.
Now we are the elders.
It is the CYCLE OF LIFE.
If we moved to THE VILLAGES we would not be the ones to join the singles club or be looking for a mate, that's for sure....and would be happy in either aged neighborhood as that is what we are used to.....a multi generational neighborhood..........however, it does "change" as life is what it is. We loved the 80 year olds. They had the best sense of humors as they had "seen it all" in their time.
Some people just like to be with their elders......while others do not.
2BNTV
12-13-2012, 09:50 AM
[QUOTE=graciegirl;593748]
To the ones who don't want to move too near a bunch of older folks.
JUST WAIT.
Some day, I will be the "OLD' one in the neighborhood. :smiley:
Seriously, I want to be around people who have goodness in their heart and soul, love to laugh and have silmiliar interest like their health and happiness, no matter what age they are.
eweissenbach
12-13-2012, 11:26 AM
Please explain your reasoning with the "little or no bond".
I just do not get it........
In My Humble Opinion.............what are you saving???
You get an OLDER home with NO bond........it is say 15 years old.....
...................
You may....need a new shingles .
.(if only need shingles,drip edge, fascia & gutters)..................... $4900.
......then, maybe also ..........
....water heater replaced.......................................... ...........800.
....appliances in kitchen....(YES, we deserve them)................4000.
....Washer & Dryer............................................. ...............1000.
....faucets and fixtures & shower doors ...............................4000.
....basic counters for kitchen & bath(s).................................3000.
....a little painting...(inside)............................... ..................1100.
....carpet "sniffy"...or worn....did they have pets :) ?..............3300.
....Heat and AIR needs replaced SOON...:faint:......................4400.
...AND ..:ohdear:
if a mortgage is needed, none of the above can be rolled into the 3.75%
...BUT...have spent over $ 26 Grand and got to deal :boxing2: with a lot of contractors...:MOJE_whot:....
...AND... you have a home that does NOT :shocked: meet the new hurricane/wind standards...... NO New Home Warranty...
WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! who said the garage door(s) will need new springs
and rollers an New door operators...:boom:....Didn't expect that....
:oops: OH CRAP..just looked outside
............the caulking around the windows is all dried out :shrug:
:pray: ......sure hope there are no more surprises.
...OH YEAH the contractor said the insulation is not adequate... now what ?
These are all realistic possibilities - however the risk you imply in overstated IMO. I have owned 15 houses and have never bought a new home. The reason I have purchased pre-owned has nothing to do with bonds, and everything to do with the after-market add ons we get. We have owned 4 homes with inground swimming pools, several with very expensive landscaping, fencing, etc., all of which came at approximately the same price, or significantly lower, as compared to a new home with a half sod yard. To me, the bond is not a deal killer, but should be added on to the asking price of the home to determine the "real" price. The bond is somewhat problematic in that the interest is higher than the mortgage interest, and if it is paid off, and you subsequently sell, most people say they can't reasonably expect to recoup the bond cost in the selling price. In other words you buy a home for $200,000 with a $20,000 bond, pay off the bond with $20,000 of your own money, and your house is worth roughly -- $200,000, depending on the market. The improvements on a pre-owned home can often be worth $10 to $20 K or more, and you stand a good chance of getting the home for less than a comparable new home with none of the enhancements. New, upgraded appliances are often found in pre owned homes, while many of the new homes come with basic appliances. A washer and dryer is often included in the pre owned and in many cases some or all the necessary furniture, which, if it suits your taste may save you $10K or more. You often have motivated sellers in the pre owned market, some of whom bought at much lower prices than new (not if they bought in '07-'08) and they can take a low bid, whereas there is no negotiating on new homes.
As in most things, there is no right or wrong about buying new or used, but rather it may be simply a matter of preference. I tend to be a used buyer, because I percieve value opportunity in the pre owned market, and have been pleased with my purchases so far (full disclosure - I was a realtor for 10 years). At the same time there are those who just do not want something that someone else has lived in and decorated, and that is valid. I find the bond to be simply another impediment to buying new in TV - FOR ME! Whatever one buys they get with it the Villages active lifestyle which is a bargain at any cost.
rubicon
12-13-2012, 12:29 PM
Where we lived in the Minneapolis area the people in our sub-dividsion were in their thirtiesmraisng children working, etc. Whilewe still hld jobs we had rearfed our childrenand done allthe thing these 30 something were now doping. it didmake a difference because we did not have as much incommon with manyof them;albeit we did occassionally mingle.
Here the differenceis that most are doing the same or similar things (i.e/ more commonality)
2BNTV
12-13-2012, 02:36 PM
These are all realistic possibilities - however the risk you imply in overstated IMO. I have owned 15 houses and have never bought a new home. The reason I have purchased pre-owned has nothing to do with bonds, and everything to do with the after-market add ons we get. We have owned 4 homes with inground swimming pools, several with very expensive landscaping, fencing, etc., all of which came at approximately the same price, or significantly lower, as compared to a new home with a half sod yard. To me, the bond is not a deal killer, but should be added on to the asking price of the home to determine the "real" price. The bond is somewhat problematic in that the interest is higher than the mortgage interest, and if it is paid off, and you subsequently sell, most people say they can't reasonably expect to recoup the bond cost in the selling price. In other words you buy a home for $200,000 with a $20,000 bond, pay off the bond with $20,000 of your own money, and your house is worth roughly -- $200,000, depending on the market. The improvements on a pre-owned home can often be worth $10 to $20 K or more, and you stand a good chance of getting the home for less than a comparable new home with none of the enhancements. New, upgraded appliances are often found in pre owned homes, while many of the new homes come with basic appliances. A washer and dryer is often included in the pre owned and in many cases some or all the necessary furniture, which, if it suits your taste may save you $10K or more. You often have motivated sellers in the pre owned market, some of whom bought at much lower prices than new (not if they bought in '07-'08) and they can take a low bid, whereas there is no negotiating on new homes.
As in most things, there is no right or wrong about buying new or used, but rather it may be simply a matter of preference. I tend to be a used buyer, because I percieve value opportunity in the pre owned market, and have been pleased with my purchases so far (full disclosure - I was a realtor for 10 years). At the same time there are those who just do not want something that someone else has lived in and decorated, and that is valid. I find the bond to be simply another impediment to buying new in TV - FOR ME! Whatever one buys they get with it the Villages active lifestyle which is a bargain at any cost.
:agree: but I then I tend to always agree with Ed's post. :smiley:
ricthemic
12-13-2012, 10:06 PM
Bob. If you see it first hand you are hanging around with the wrong group.
When you move here you will find a bunch of people who all have a 16 year old hidden inside of them. If you recognise that 16 year old, you are in for a joyful ride. You will find a group of people with at LEAST five decades of life experiences who have worked for a long time, experienced sadness and disappointment, frustration and pain and have had a lot of successes and wonderful moments. Seniors are thought to be a little wiser and a little more compassionate for good reason.
We do NOT need to encourage age bias in this place. It is a silly and hurtful concept.
I also have been there. Saved the bond, great deal, very nice neighbors all of whom were here at least 12 years before us and were very friendly BUT they all naturally formed their own groups in every activity especially the women (in our opinion). So 18 months later moved to a new area with people our on age. Difference for us was absolutely night and day.... driveway parties, village parties, pickleball, exec golf, champion golf, water volley ball, dining out after 4:00 PM, day and overnight trips to beaches and area attractions... never happened for us before... believe me, IMO and experience, this has nothing to do with age bias but i do believe it has to do with human nature....give me the bond anyday
My two cents..( and ya know what they say...:) I asked the same exact question when we moved here. NOT because I was "worried" about older folks etc..ONLY because lets face it a 50 year old woman will do different things than a 70+ year old woman. That's all folks, it is NOT a bias of any kind! If you are 60 years old, can you honestly say you want to go hang out with a 39 year old couple that has young kids? Probably not. The two couples are at different stages in their lives, thats all...I know that at 51, I don't want to hang out with young 20 or 30 somethings that still have small kids, or other interests that I used to have. That is all it is. I believe that no one is saying they don't want to have neighbors 70, 80 etc, that is not it. I absolutely love my neighbors ( almost all are over 70!) however, they don't like pickleball or tennis or volleyball anymore ( too hard on knees) so I find others who still want to participate in those things. Does not mean I don't love dining w/neighbors or playing an exec course. Please stop assuming age bias when someone ( who has never lived here, and knows very little about TV) asks a simple question like older,younger,etc. They are only trying to make a decision and seeking advice as to whether TV is the place for them..Lets give em a break....
Down Sized
12-14-2012, 06:54 PM
I also have been there. Saved the bond, great deal, very nice neighbors all of whom were here at least 12 years before us and were very friendly BUT they all naturally formed their own groups in every activity especially the women (in our opinion). So 18 months later moved to a new area with people our on age. Difference for us was absolutely night and day.... driveway parties, village parties, pickleball, exec golf, champion golf, water volley ball, dining out after 4:00 PM, day and overnight trips to beaches and area attractions... never happened for us before... believe me, IMO and experience, this has nothing to do with age bias but i do believe it has to do with human nature....give me the bond anyday
:agree::bowdown::pepper2::pepper2:
De Lis
12-14-2012, 07:29 PM
Don't ever fool yourself about being young (of age ) in T.V., as the majority of the young at heart will prove you wrong!
manaboutown
12-14-2012, 07:45 PM
When my father was 90 years of age I asked him how old he felt. Without taking a breath he declared "I feel 18 years old but I am stuck in this old body."
eweissenbach
12-14-2012, 08:32 PM
When my father was 90 years of age I asked him how old he felt. Without taking a breath he declared "I feel 18 years old but I am stuck in this old body."
Yup, your dad was a wise man. I have said for years that in my mind's eye, I remain young. In other words I can walk up to a 3 foot rock wall and look at it and see myself jumping up on it and landing on my feet, gaining my balance. If I try it I will come about 2 feet short, and likely fall on my butt and wrench my back in the process. I was an athlete as a young man, and used to laugh to myself when watching someone that struggled to catch a baseball, or dribble a basketball, thinking "what is wrong with them, that is the easiest thing in the world". Now I would make a fool of myself trying to do many of the athletic moves that I once found so natural and easy. I have recently embarked on an excercise regimen to help me regain some of my lost flexibility, as I realize that if I live another 20 years I better be prepared to physically be able to take care of myself.
ugotme
12-14-2012, 11:36 PM
The real question is: What age are we talking about?
My wife usually says that I act like a 12 year old.
To that I respond: NA NEE NA NEE POO POO !!!!
See - I can be mature when I want to be. (hate that word - mature)
graciegirl
12-15-2012, 05:31 AM
The real question is: What age are we talking about?
My wife usually says that I act like a 12 year old.
To that I respond: NA NEE NA NEE POO POO !!!!
See - I can be mature when I want to be. (hate that word - mature)
Gotta love you, ugotme. You so remind me of me.
I am still mulling over what a fifty year old woman can do that a seventy year old woman can't do.
Did I ever tell you how I tore my achilles tendon?
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