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Angela Heroux
12-13-2012, 03:57 PM
Just finished reading the letter from
Gary Morse. Really excited we may have Health Care!
With almost 95,000 we are a city to itself!
Hoping the cost is affordable
We're in!!
gerryann
12-13-2012, 04:12 PM
Just saw the letter from Gary Morse about Health
Care! Great! We're in!
With almost 95,000 were a city!
Hope it's affordable!
Good work!!
I'm in the dark....what letter are you referring to?
BobnBev
12-13-2012, 04:19 PM
What letter is that??
gomoho
12-13-2012, 04:27 PM
Please share the letter you are referring to - we are all curious.
Lbmb24101
12-13-2012, 04:44 PM
Same here
What letter did Mr Morse send?
Check your mailbox today, snail mailbox that is... :D.....we just read our letter....we're in, too.
swrinfla
12-13-2012, 05:03 PM
I just wish there were signs of the appropriate doctors signing on; signs of the other facilities being under construction!
SWR
:beer3:
graciegirl
12-13-2012, 05:06 PM
I know. All I hear is good doctors leaving. I don't know what letter you are talking about but with health issues being an older adult's number one worry, THIS isn't the best place to be.
See that all you varmints who say I never criticise this place?
AND...The Morses can build buildings but they cannot make good medical people come here.
NotGolfer
12-13-2012, 05:14 PM
Have to say...we did not get a letter in our snail mail today from Gary Morse. Wonder if we will???!!! We never got the health-survey that went out neither.
bike42
12-13-2012, 05:33 PM
The letter is addressed to all 92,154 residents. If yours wasn't in your mailbox today, check tomorrow or the next day. It's a very nicely written explanation of the neighborhood Care Centers (seven planned, with the first -- in Colony -- opening soon).
Bogie Shooter
12-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Have to say...we did not get a letter in our snail mail today from Gary Morse. Wonder if we will???!!! We never got the health-survey that went out neither.
Did you pay your bounty fee when entering Florida?
eremite06
12-13-2012, 06:46 PM
"Mayo Clinic" style of salaried doctors in 8 Health Centers. Success depends entirely on the quality of the doctors. The centers can be built quickly Villages style, but to hire 70 to 80 doctors may be time consuming. The doctors will be general practitioners that serve limited patients and have the patience to serve.
Sounds good to me.
Barefoot
12-13-2012, 06:53 PM
Just finished reading the letter from
Gary Morse. Really excited we may have Health Care! With almost 95,000 we are a city to itself! Hoping the cost is affordable. We're in!!
I got a letter and I'm Canadian, so it definitely has been sent to each and every resident.
shcisamax
12-13-2012, 06:56 PM
Is it a version of boutique medicine?
Villager Dude
12-13-2012, 10:35 PM
Has anyone received acceptance into the program and been given a list of doctor's to select from ?
gamby
12-14-2012, 02:08 AM
I did get this letter.
Everyone should geton in the next few days.
lovesports
12-14-2012, 02:09 AM
I got it in the mail today.
tsew22
12-14-2012, 04:58 AM
If it is one thing we are really disappointed in here, it is the quality of the Drs. Coming here from MA, and just outside of Boston, we had wonderful Drs. to chose from. I just don't see the draw for highly qualified Drs. here.
What we see is just ok, very hit or miss. If my husband or I get a serious illness,we're out of here! What is the name of Gary Morse's Dr.?
fraurauch
12-14-2012, 05:36 AM
If it is one thing we are really disappointed in here, it is the quality of the Drs. Coming here from MA, and just outside of Boston, we had wonderful Drs. to chose from. I just don't see the draw for highly qualified Drs. here.
What we see is just ok, very hit or miss. If my husband or I get a serious illness,we're out of here! What is the name of Gary Morse's Dr.?
I'd love to know who Gary Morse's is as well!
graciegirl
12-14-2012, 05:42 AM
I'd love to know who Gary Morse's is as well!
Me too!
shcisamax
12-14-2012, 07:01 AM
Oh yeah, I would bet my kids on him not having a doctor in TV :)
Madelaine Amee
12-14-2012, 07:45 AM
I'd love to know who Gary Morse's is as well!
Well, we will probably never get to know who he is, but it's pretty obvious he/she's at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville.
Madelaine Amee
12-14-2012, 07:52 AM
If it is one thing we are really disappointed in here, it is the quality of the Drs. Coming here from MA, and just outside of Boston, we had wonderful Drs. to chose from. I just don't see the draw for highly qualified Drs. here. What we see is just ok, very hit or miss. If my husband or I get a serious illness,we're out of here! What is the name of Gary Morse's Dr.?
I, too, moved from the suburbs of Boston and had really never been very sick while living in Massachusetts, but my primary care was at Beth Israel and it does not get much better than that! However after moving here my other half had a rare cancer and I had major kidney problems. My husband was diagnosed right here by our primary care, and I was diagnosed at one of the critical care clinics, and then passed along to a local urologist who sent me to Mayo.
So don't give up on the availability of good medical care right here just yet - oh, and while I'm about it, let me tell you that the 3 hr drive from here to Mayo is a piece of cake compared to getting in and out of the Beth Israel in the middle of Boston.
graciegirl
12-14-2012, 07:56 AM
I, too, moved from the suburbs of Boston and had really never been very sick while living in Massachusetts, but my primary care was at Beth Israel and it does not get much better than that! However after moving here my other half had a rare cancer and I had major kidney problems. My husband was diagnosed right here by our primary care, and I was diagnosed at one of the critical care clinics, and then passed along to a local urologist who sent me to Mayo.
So don't give up on the availability of good medical care right here just yet - oh, and while I'm about it, let me tell you that the 3 hr drive from here to Mayo is a piece of cake compared to getting in and out of the Beth Israel in the middle of Boston.
So sorry to hear of your health issues but good to hear that you found answers not too far away.
Mikeod
12-14-2012, 08:01 AM
I suspect this will be concierge type of system. Pay a fixed amount to enroll, then co-pays with the rest being billed to your insurance.
Villageshooter
12-14-2012, 08:05 AM
The "man" will take care of all of us,,, I am looking forward to this happening,,what a pain it is to get into see a doc quickly,,, u can bet if the powers that be are running this,,it will be ran efficient manner with satisfied customers. The problem will come is what kind of doc will come work for the lackluster salaries that are paid In this area?
Will for sure be lots new foreigners that have no solid ties to any home community,so they come here trying to establish themselves. So don't expect to get Marcus Welby . Will most likely be more dr Greg House, lots of wackos that can't get jobs in there hometowns or have been ran out there local areas.
I am looking foward to this this.we need better docs here...we are great guinea pigs for these docs we all are old and if we die they can pass it off as aging patients as opposed to making a mistake
Madelaine Amee
12-14-2012, 08:32 AM
The "man" will take care of all of us,,, I am looking forward to this happening,,what a pain it is to get into see a doc quickly,,, u can bet if the powers that be are running this,,it will be ran efficient manner with satisfied customers. The problem will come is what kind of doc will come work for the lackluster salaries that are paid In this area?
Will for sure be lots new foreigners that have no solid ties to any home community,so they come here trying to establish themselves. So don't expect to get Marcus Welby . Will most likely be more dr Greg House, lots of wackos that can't get jobs in there hometowns or have been ran out there local areas.
I am looking foward to this this.we need better docs here...we are great guinea pigs for these docs we all are old and if we die they can pass it off as aging patients as opposed to making a mistake
With all respect for your opinion, I totally disagree with you on this. Do you really believe our local doctors work for local wages, you only have to see the clinics they build to see that they are doing very well.
"Foreigners" - I think you are assuming that all doctors with different names are not born, raised and educated right here in the U.S. My favorite and quite brilliant doctor at the Beth Israel was of Chinese parentage, and American born. Americans come in all colors, all shapes and all sizes these days; and living in Florida we are going to have more and more hispanic doctors practicing here. In my case at Mayo, my surgeon was of Greek parentage, my husband's Oncologist was Indian!
In our case, whenever we need to see a doctor we are not familiar with, I research where they did their residency and I have never yet found one locally who has not been educated right here in the U.S.
There is a watchmaker at one of the local flea markets who is from Vietnam. My husband was talking with him one day and found out that his six, yes six, children had all been born here, educated here and were ALL doctors, dentists, Engineers ........... you name it, and they had all done it on studying hard and getting scholarships.
Will most likely be more dr Greg House, lots of wackos that can't get jobs in there hometowns or have been ran out there local areas.
This is a really insulting comment.
gomoho
12-14-2012, 08:41 AM
Has anyone received acceptance into the program and been given a list of doctor's to select from ?
Was told in July there is a waiting list, which we are supposedly on, and they would be contacting us in December to let us know who the doctors are etc.
It is a rather confusing process, but the building looks to be near completion so hopefully more information will be out soon.
tsew22
12-14-2012, 09:12 AM
Thank you, for the encouragement, and glad you are both doing well.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 09:22 AM
With all respect for your opinion, I totally disagree with you on this. Do you really believe our local doctors work for local wages, you only have to see the clinics they build to see that they are doing very well.
"Foreigners" - I think you are assuming that all doctors with different names are not born, raised and educated right here in the U.S. My favorite and quite brilliant doctor at the Beth Israel was of Chinese parentage, and American born. Americans come in all colors, all shapes and all sizes these days; and living in Florida we are going to have more and more hispanic doctors practicing here. In my case at Mayo, my surgeon was of Greek parentage, my husband's Oncologist was Indian!
In our case, whenever we need to see a doctor we are not familiar with, I research where they did their residency and I have never yet found one locally who has not been educated right here in the U.S.
There is a watchmaker at one of the local flea markets who is from Vietnam. My husband was talking with him one day and found out that his six, yes six, children had all been born here, educated here and were ALL doctors, dentists, Engineers ........... you name it, and they had all done it on studying hard and getting scholarships.
Will most likely be more dr Greg House, lots of wackos that can't get jobs in there hometowns or have been ran out there local areas.
This is a really insulting comment.
I would have to come along side this comment/poster and say that one should never make judgements by skin color or ethnicity!! Whenever I make an app't with a new provider I try to do my "due diligence" to find out their credentials first. I have a specialist I see in Ocala, who is of a different race than me---she's top-notch and I like her very much. America, last I heard, is a melting pot of all people from around the world. So far, since moving here we've found our practioners to be fine. IF, Heaven forbid, either of us would get a catastrophic illness we'd probably look as this poster did for someone who could "best" address our illness.
I have to wonder "if" the food..... and health-care here is so bad---why is it this community is growing so quickly??
Dave n Sue
12-14-2012, 09:24 AM
We received a call yesterday to say that we have been accepted to the new Colony facility. Informed that once we receive our new patient packet in the mail we can call to schedule our first time visit. Person who called also stated 300 ppl were selected, and selection was made geographically.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 09:30 AM
We received a call yesterday to say that we have been accepted to the new Colony facility. Informed that once we receive our new patient packet in the mail we can call to schedule our first time visit. Person who called also stated 300 ppl were selected, and selection was made geographically.
Did you do anything prior to this...like participate in a survey or program at the GHP (or whatever it's called) office in Lake Sumter Landing???
I'd LOVE to be a patient at the new clinic!!!
skyguy79
12-14-2012, 09:34 AM
I haven't seen the letter yet, but when The Villages held the government day at Colony Rec, USF Health in The Villages was set up there. I got to speak with the director and in the conversation was told that if your provider was going to work in the new USF facility at Colony, you will be given the opportunity to continue with that same provider.
:2excited:
:pepper2:
... especially with my provider moving there and the difficulty I experienced in finding a provider I liked!
Moderator
12-14-2012, 10:00 AM
2 Separate threads were merged into one.... posts get merged in chronological order.
bike42
12-14-2012, 10:14 AM
Did you do anything prior to this...like participate in a survey or program at the GHP (or whatever it's called) office in Lake Sumter Landing???
I'd LOVE to be a patient at the new clinic!!!
Several months ago there were articles in The Sun saying to call or write the USF office in Sumter Landing if you were interested in becoming a patient, to get put on their waiting list. I did that. Yesterday I received a letter (separate from the Gary Morse letter) saying that the Colony Care Center is not in my neighborhood so I would not be a patient there, but should wait for a Center to be built near us.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 10:46 AM
Several months ago there were articles in The Sun saying to call or write the USF office in Sumter Landing if you were interested in becoming a patient, to get put on their waiting list. I did that. Yesterday I received a letter (separate from the Gary Morse letter) saying that the Colony Care Center is not in my neighborhood so I would not be a patient there, but should wait for a Center to be built near us.
I went to the office in person not all that long ago..just a handful of weeks in fact. The woman at the desk was not helpful. ALL she said was you will have to wait until an article comes out in the Sun...so watch for it which I've done. There has been nothing in that article. My provider is stated by one name...I saw a nurse practioner (always) so her name wasn't on the insurance card that I have. Guess I'm out in the cold then.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 11:26 AM
to add to comments...
I tried looking in The Villages Phone Book but couldn't locate The Villages USF office's phone number to check with them on all this information. Can anyone here help???
Dave n Sue
12-14-2012, 11:51 AM
I called the Doctors of Belleview ofc several months ago and they placed me on a wait list.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Thanks....I made my call(s) today! So will wait to see "if" we get the letter that folks speak of here!!!
gomoho
12-14-2012, 05:03 PM
We received a call yesterday to say that we have been accepted to the new Colony facility. Informed that once we receive our new patient packet in the mail we can call to schedule our first time visit. Person who called also stated 300 ppl were selected, and selection was made geographically.
Interesting, when we signed up in June we were told it would be done on a first come first served basis. Will have to call on Monday and see what's up.
NotGolfer
12-14-2012, 05:19 PM
LOTS of different stories going around here. Phone calls that I made give one set of information and the posts here somewhat different. We still didn't get our letter(s)....we live in the vacinity of the Colony Clinic. Sooo guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next week.
bpinsly
12-14-2012, 05:24 PM
Got our letter today but it didn't tell us how to sign up. It said to be patient and more information would be following. If anyone knows the number to call to be put on the wait list, please post it.
applesoffh
12-14-2012, 08:43 PM
Got the letter today. One thing mentioned a number of times is the word JOIN. Is this a membership? Will it be open to everyone? What sort of pre-exisiting conditions will be "allowed"? Will this be available to Medicare-age people only?
IMHO, it was a very vague letter, and left many questions of ours unanswered. It also makes me wonder just how bad the quality of health care really is here in TV. Guess we've been lucky so far...we've got a good PCP, and a good opthamologist. The only downside has been the long (5+) week wait for the spinal neurologist. We didin't have a "boutique" doctor in NYC, but it sounds like that's what is starting here...IMHO.
bxmt54
12-14-2012, 09:13 PM
That is what we were led to believe as well. Everything that Amy Wixted told us made it sound like when they were ready to accept patients they would go down their list and call people in the order they signed up. We received the letter yesterday as well and are told that we won't get in either due to our location. We are in St. James...really not that far from Colony, if you ask me. I called the number on the letter and was told today they were accepting patients by demographic areas, not the order of registering. We have put off for 8 months getting established with new doctors here because we were waiting for this and now we find out we won't be in the initial group. There are going to be seven centers built..theoretically it could be seven years before they are built and up and going. They could not commit as to which center would be built next but I was told that one will be close to Brownwood and one will be by the Sumter Cty. Offices/Library on 466A. Neither of those will be any closer to us than this one.....I called Amy today, left a message and never heard back. I am very disappointed and really don't know what to do next.
RVRoadie
12-15-2012, 12:33 AM
Just remember, the successful doctors here in The Villages have to figure out how to survive on Medicare reimbursements. Comparing medical care here to a place like Boston, where doctors see a relatively low number of medicare patients, just highlights the problems with low Medicare reimbursements.
We have had good luck so far with PCP. However, my wife recently had a hospital stay at The Villages Hospital. The bill was $28,953.68. We paid a $200 deductible and PCP paid $6,206.76 which I assume is the Medicare reimbursement rate. I guess the hospital ate the rest.
gamby
12-15-2012, 01:29 AM
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We do not get a news paper (The Sun) and don't wish to .
Guess I will have to just watch the forum for info or go to Mayo.
mulligan
12-15-2012, 07:30 AM
You can read The Sun online.
gomoho
12-15-2012, 08:08 AM
That is what we were led to believe as well. Everything that Amy Wixted told us made it sound like when they were ready to accept patients they would go down their list and call people in the order they signed up. We received the letter yesterday as well and are told that we won't get in either due to our location. We are in St. James...really not that far from Colony, if you ask me. I called the number on the letter and was told today they were accepting patients by demographic areas, not the order of registering. We have put off for 8 months getting established with new doctors here because we were waiting for this and now we find out we won't be in the initial group. There are going to be seven centers built..theoretically it could be seven years before they are built and up and going. They could not commit as to which center would be built next but I was told that one will be close to Brownwood and one will be by the Sumter Cty. Offices/Library on 466A. Neither of those will be any closer to us than this one.....I called Amy today, left a message and never heard back. I am very disappointed and really don't know what to do next.
We are in the same boat except we've put off getting established for 7 months. Very disappointing how this is being handled and certainly doesn't speak well for the system that was supposed to be so patient friendly.
blueash
12-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Mr. Morse's letter concerned me in two ways.
Firstly he used the term general practitioner to describe the type of doctor they are looking to employ. A GP is a person who has passed medical school thus has an MD or DO and done at least one year of rotating internship. The term is not synonymous with board certified Family practitioner who has done a 3 year residency in Family medicine (program designed to train the doctor in internal medicine (adult only medical care), pediatrics (child only medical care), obstetrics, gynecology, general surgery, and a little ER, hospital care, and psychiatry) Obviously trying to learn all these fields in a 3 year program means that one cannot get as much training as someone who does just one of these fields eg an internist or internal medicine doctor only does the adult medicine and adult hospital care training. A GP in the US has a lower level of training than a FP. You want your primary care doctors to be board certified minimum as FP or internists.
Second he frequently invokes the Mayo name as if the key part of Mayo is that the doctors are salaried. The key part is that they are very highly trained with specialty and sub-specialty experts in the same medical home who share resources and communicate as a team. There is nothing in the Morse letter to suggest that his new system will have anything other than primary care doctors on salary instead of fee for service, FFS. It is true that FFS can encourage excess office visits and in office procedures (beware of doctors with large in office labs and Xrays and cardiac testing and bone density... they have to run enough patients thru to pay for that stuff). You can be sure that you will not have limitless time for your visit. The office managers will know who is seeing fewer patients for the same salary. The practice will still be paid on volume as they are going to be billing the insurance companies based on services provided so for the practice to make money, the goal of all corporations, they will have to see enough patients per hour to make a profit meaning more than the cost of the doctor, nurse, manager, NP, secretary, billing clerk, receptionist in both salary and fringes, and the rent, supplies, insurance, utilities, maintenance etc etc . Don't think there wont be pressure to keep the patients moving. The only difference will be the doctor won't be paid per patient, but will not keep his/her job if working too slowly.
applesoffh
12-15-2012, 01:18 PM
:agree:
Villages PL
12-15-2012, 01:49 PM
I disagree. We were told over and over that the doctors would be able to take their time and there would be no waiting to see the doctor (no appointment needed) because these doctors would be payed a generous salary. Therefore, there would be no need for them to see a lot of patients.
The one thing I don't remember being told is where the money will come from to pay the generous salaries. That's why I have stated in the past that it seems like it will be "concierge medical service". This type of service requires a monthly or yearly fee to be payed by each patient who joins.
Some concierge clinics around the country have even been known (or suspected) to cherry-pick the healthiest patients so as to keep the fees within reason and/or profits up.
blueash
12-15-2012, 02:32 PM
I disagree. We were told over and over that the doctors would be able to take their time and there would be no waiting to see the doctor (no appointment needed) because these doctors would be payed a generous salary. Therefore, there would be no need for them to see a lot of patients.
The one thing I don't remember being told is where the money will come from to pay the generous salaries. That's why I have stated in the past that it seems like it will be "concierge medical service". This type of service requires a monthly or yearly fee to be payed by each patient who joins.
Some concierge clinics around the country have even been known (or suspected) to cherry-pick the healthiest patients so as to keep the fees within reason and/or profits up.
You may be right. If this is going to be concierge care then the letter from Morse is more than misleading as lying by omission is just as egregious. However everyone can see the fallacy in being told that the doctor will give you as much time as you want and you will not have to wait or even have an appointment. That doesn't even work well for the 10 minute oil change business.
Bonny
12-15-2012, 02:34 PM
We got our letter day before yesterday.
gomoho
12-15-2012, 03:52 PM
boy talk about a can of worms!!! :shrug:
graciegirl
12-15-2012, 04:19 PM
We got our letter today.
I know that someone has to pay something, I don't live in a dream world, and I don't see how people can just go and stay for TOO long at a doctors office and some surely would, knowing people as I do.
I think ole Gar is trying to find a solution and it could be just for his bottom line but I doubt it is just that. He has made many fortunes over and he deserves the money..but I think his motives are different on this one. I think he would like his legacy to be a near perfect community.
I think that this would indeed make this place dang nigh perfect, but fixing affordable health care is being failed at by all takers if you ask me.
The companies that manufacture medicine and give care (hospitals) charge tooooo much to individuals for starters. AND so do some doctors, but certainly not good ones, ethical ones.
But they don't deserve a pittance either.
There is no easy answer.
I don't know how this idea will work, I am very sceptical.
Blueash is ABSOLUTELY correct on everything stated. Mayo clinic is a wonderful
institution, however, board certified family physicians at Mayo or anywhere else are basically subsidized by specialized services such as labs, testing, surgeries and sub-specialists. Furthermore, if a family practice doctor does not "rub elbows" or practice in an intellectual enviornment like Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, etc. the quality of their practice will suffer. Doctors need to learn everyday, too, to keep up with advances. They need to learn from others and "share" what they may know or else they get stale and stagnant in their thinking. Don't think for a minute that reading a journal or going to a seminar once a year is enough. Mayo is fantastic because it has many great minds that daily collaborate on medical issues, injuries, diseases, current and trial treatments AND they contribute to the scientific world by the amount of research they fund. How much do you pay for that?
So, if Morse is going to plan clinics that will provide great care for medicare consumers, he better plan on subsidizing it heavily. Otherwise it will be "same ole', same ole'" or it will be destined to fail.
graciegirl
12-15-2012, 05:06 PM
Blueash is ABSOLUTELY correct on everything stated. Mayo clinic is a wonderful
institution, however, board certified family physicians at Mayo or anywhere else are basically subsidized by specialized services such as labs, testing, surgeries and sub-specialists. Furthermore, if a family practice doctor does not "rub elbows" or practice in an intellectual enviornment like Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, etc. the quality of their practice will suffer. Doctors need to learn everyday, too, to keep up with advances. They need to learn from others and "share" what they may know or else they get stale and stagnant in their thinking. Don't think for a minute that reading a journal or going to a seminar once a year is enough. Mayo is fantastic because it has many great minds that daily collaborate on medical issues, injuries, diseases, current and trial treatments AND they contribute to the scientific world by the amount of research they fund. How much do you pay for that?
So, if Morse is going to plan clinics that will provide great care for medicare consumers, he better plan on subsidizing it heavily. Otherwise it will be "same ole', same ole'" or it will be destined to fail.
I agree.
NotGolfer
12-15-2012, 10:45 PM
Got the letter! Now folks, I think I remember somewhere that there is a grant in place that will help with the salaries. I don't think there's a conspiracy going on here that is fishy. We all have enjoyed coming here, living here and enjoying the amenities. I know that healthcare doesn't fall into that...but I don't think that "powers that be" will set us up to something that won't pan out. We should know by now that this place we live in has been well thought out. I can only believe that this new clinic system has been as well.
Some of you have stated you think our health-care up til now has been "awful". Do you not think that the Morse family is trying to rectify this?? Just another opinion...which is mine!
Challenger
12-15-2012, 11:05 PM
My wife and I have lived here for 18 months. Medicare. Both have reasonably significant health issues. Came from Md and previously belonged to a Johns Hopkins primary care group. Both have had surgical proceedures since comming here .
Are we the only people on this forum who have received what we believe to be very good health care from TV based physicians and our local community hospital ?
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
12-15-2012, 11:25 PM
Me too!
Gary Morse is the son or stepson of Harold Schwartz the founder of the Villages. Mr Morse is the one who is primarily responsible for the huge expansion of the development and the addition of amenities such as golf courses. Mr Morse and his family basically own and operate the Villages.
shcisamax
12-16-2012, 06:46 AM
Hmmn. Wonder how did they decide who gets "the letter"? We didn't.
NotGolfer
12-16-2012, 07:46 AM
I was assurred everyone would get a letter! We got ours on day 3 after they first went out. I'd guess that if you didn't get one..you will this next week.
NotGolfer
12-16-2012, 07:49 AM
My wife and I have lived here for 18 months. Medicare. Both have reasonably significant health issues. Came from Md and previously belonged to a Johns Hopkins primary care group. Both have had surgical proceedures since comming here .
Are we the only people on this forum who have received what we believe to be very good health care from TV based physicians and our local community hospital ?
Nope you are not the only folks! We've received very good care so far!! One of us has fairly significant health issues as well.
Bonny
12-16-2012, 07:55 AM
We have been here for 12 1/2 years and have had very good care.
graciegirl
12-16-2012, 08:13 AM
We have been here for 12 1/2 years and have had very good care.
You and I share a doctor we both admire VERY much. Dr. Hamilton Fish an endocrinologist in Leesburg.
We also have the best dentist we have ever had. Palm Ridge Dental with both women being extremly good. Dr. Kathleen Williams and Dr. Reem Jabar. (and warm as well)
It is hard to find excellent family doctors here and if you do find a great one, sometimes you have to be on a waiting list for over a YEAR.
I am a person who believes you increase your chances of survival if you take the time to find the best doctor and medical facility you can.
I don't summarily dismiss all physicians here, but some of them just aren't REAL GOOD.
MWR46
12-16-2012, 10:08 AM
Just finished reading the letter from
Gary Morse. Really excited we may have Health Care!
With almost 95,000 we are a city to itself!
Hoping the cost is affordable
We're in!!
Also read the letter, wondering what insurance they will take? Letter seems to exclude Medicare but I may be reading into it. Since you have to "Join" I fear this may put the cost out of reach for many..Thoughts ?
gomoho
12-17-2012, 01:40 PM
I received the letter from Gary Morse about the new health care system and also the letter saying when they build one in my neighborhood I would get a priority invite. Well I have been on the waiting list since June and live in Hadley - I don't think you can get any closer to the new facility than Hadley so this looks to be to be a farse and I am sorely disappointed on how this has been handled. I know I it's a new start up, but looks like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Hope the care they supply is better.
ilovetv
12-17-2012, 02:46 PM
"Just remember, the successful doctors here in The Villages have to figure out how to survive on Medicare reimbursements. Comparing medical care here to a place like Boston, where doctors see a relatively low number of medicare patients, just highlights the problems with low Medicare reimbursements.
We have had good luck so far with PCP. However, my wife recently had a hospital stay at The Villages Hospital. The bill was $28,953.68. We paid a $200 deductible and PCP paid $6,206.76 which I assume is the Medicare reimbursement rate. I guess the hospital ate the rest."
The quoted sentence in bold above is a concept that people refuse to look at. How in the world do consumers expect medical providers to hire and attract excellent doctors, nurses and technicians when 85% of patients at TVRH are on Medicare, and the above is how much Medicare pays of the actual costs to deliver the care.....in a hospital that does not have unionized (higher) nurse wages and benefits to pay????
Given the circumstances, I think any effort Mr. Morse makes to provide a primary care physician practice in which they can attract good physicians for a sensible salary that is cost-effective and balances the budget......is a gift horse not to be questioned in the mouth.
And also, nobody has to go there. Take it or leave it.
CanalTownMary
12-17-2012, 03:43 PM
Got my letter the other day and am very excited about this concept. It is long overdue. I am going to urge my Dr. in Maryland to consider applying as he is a great GP. So exciting.
YouNeverKnow
12-17-2012, 04:12 PM
We have been here for 12 1/2 years and have had very good care.
Sent you a PM
sharonga
01-04-2013, 08:17 PM
yes, but what does it mean?? will you have to join???? any one know?
ginnyradtkeRN
01-04-2013, 08:59 PM
Don't get too excited until you read the letter and wait for all the angles involved in this future healthcare program. One of the things that we as 50 and over residents do is jump before thinking. Anything you do related to your health should be looked at several times, like getting second opinions for surgeries, etc. I've been a nurse for 43 years and have seen many many seniors pushed into new things that later are questionable. Let's all wait and see what this new Healthcare brings us before we get too excited. I'm sure everyone will get the letter.
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