Lesson to be learned by Lance Armstrong's fans....

[Villages PL]

....and sports fans in general.

There was a lesson learned by those who invested with Bernard Madoff. If I remember correctly, they wrote their checks to him directly rather than a clearing house. So, hopefully, a valuable lesson was learned.

What about Lance Armstrong and other sports heroes? What is the lesson to be learned, if any?

Is it once again about investing? Should sports fans be investing so much of their hopes and/or emotions in someone they really don't know?

[Mudder]

It's hard these days to level the playing field, someone will always find a way to increase their rate of success. Get away with it once you figure why not try again......until someone screams loud enough long enough. The fall is never pretty.

[2BNTV]

....and sports fans in general.

There was a lesson learned by those who invested with Bernard Madoff. If I remember correctly, they wrote their checks to him directly rather than a clearing house. So, hopefully, a valuable lesson was learned.

What about Lance Armstrong and other sports heroes? What is the lesson to be learned, if any?

Is it once again about investing? Should sports fans be investing so much of their hopes and/or emotions in someone they really don't know?

As opposed to what? Hope is a great thought that makes people happy. To dare to dream that someday, one can achieve success at a high level is something only a handful of talented people can accomplish. When one watches a football game, does anyone reqlize these athletes represent only a slight fraction of the total world population. But it's true.

I tend to root for team type sports where players have to work together to achieve a goal. In days gone by, I used to be interested in boxing but it has gotten too violent with boxers being bigger and stronger. I can honestly say that I never watched more than 10 minutes of the Tour De France races. I was never interested in that sport.

I was never a big fan of Lance Armstrong although the appeal of someone overcoming cancer to achieve a very hard goal was very intriging. He cheated, lied and intimidated people with lawsuits. All in all, not a very honorable person.

Lesson Is - What's the movie line, "don't look up to some people as they have a way of disappointing you". We must choose good role models for our children and grandchildren. Athletes are like most everybody else except they have a unique set of skills that some of us admire as we cannot do them in our wildest dreams.

BTW - Bernie Madoff is a dirt bag.

[janmcn]

After watching parts of Armstong's interview last night with Oprah, I felt physically ill. I hope the various lawsuits against him take every dollar he ever made. The only thing he's sorry about is getting caught and having to admit he doped. Why does Oprah even bother...you can't believe a word this guy says.

[rmcpklinefelter]

He is a scum bag, but wearing a "live stong" yellow stretch braclet gave my husband courage while he was fighting for his life with colon cancer. Hubby finds LA's actions reprehensible...btw, it's been a CLEAN 8 years since diagnosis,chemo, radiation, surgery and more chemo. Now I call him the "colonoscopy evangelist"...have you had yours?

[ilovetv]

The First Commandment is quite clear.

"And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+20&version=NIV

[paulandjean]

You must learn to forgive. He did much good also in his life. He also had some serious health issues. I think we must walk in another shoes to know.

[Patty55]

Please, the man rode a bike. I always thought his sport borrinnng, I always found his attitude smug, and after seeing bits of the Oprah thing, he came across as a real JERK.:22yikes:

His LIVESTRONG campaign was a good thing, if it gave hope to others, great.

You know what they say in PattyLand....

"Winners never cheat and cheaters never win."

[graciegirl]

You must learn to forgive. He did much good also in his life. He also had some serious health issues. I think we must walk in another shoes to know.

I feel strongly that some of the hormones he took may have contributed to his own testicular cancer.

Forgiveness for me is kept for someone who hurt me personally. I think he isn't a responsible person. I think he became too intoxicated with fame.

[jackz]

Why does Oprah even bother...you can't believe a word this guy says.

Oprah bothers because with all the hype about the interviews she made a fortune airing them.............

[justjim]

We will never know how many took "drugs" to enhance their skills that never got caught. It's a good bet some of them are in the various "sports hall of fames". Just thinking---suppose any golfer's??? IMHO I think they have and they are.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

....and sports fans in general.

There was a lesson learned by those who invested with Bernard Madoff. If I remember correctly, they wrote their checks to him directly rather than a clearing house. So, hopefully, a valuable lesson was learned.

What about Lance Armstrong and other sports heroes? What is the lesson to be learned, if any?

Is it once again about investing? Should sports fans be investing so much of their hopes and/or emotions in someone they really don't know?

Cheating pays is the lesson learned. What other cyclist are worth 100 + million? Look at the other sports hero's that are admitted cheaters most of them are among, or were among the highest paid in their sport. Sure they may be dis-graced but if your goal is $$ it pays to cheat

[janmcn]

Cheating pays is the lesson learned. What other cyclist are worth 100 + million? Look at the other sports hero's that are admitted cheaters most of them are among, or were among the highest paid in their sport. Sure they may be dis-graced but if your goal is $$ it pays to cheat

Lance Armstrong will be lucky if he has two nickels to rub together when he gets done with all the lawsuits brought against him. He accomplished nothing by winning by doping. He has no Tour de France titles, he has no Olympic medals, his charity, Livestong wants nothing to do with him. He ruined so many peoples lives and reputations. He better go out and get a job if he wants to survive...that is if anybody will hire him.

[Taltarzac725]

Armstrong's legacy to the sport of cycling may have been his greatest pride. That also now seems to be his greatest personal loss. I started getting suspicious of him when Sheryl Crow broke off their relationship so suddenly and suspected she had peaked through his veil so to speak and did not like what she saw.

I always feel sad when a sports hero ruins his or her reputation through actions taken.

Not sure how long these lawsuits will drag on however and Lance Armstrong probably can survive over the years that these take.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

Lance Armstrong will be lucky if he has two nickels to rub together when he gets done with all the lawsuits brought against him. He accomplished nothing by winning by doping. He has no Tour de France titles, he has no Olympic medals, his charity, Livestong wants nothing to do with him. He ruined so many peoples lives and reputations. He better go out and get a job if he wants to survive...that is if anybody will hire him.

You might be right about the 2 nickels but that's not because he cheated, that's because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

[Patty55]

I can't believe they don't automatically drug test the winners. For crying out loud, they test children's ponies at horse shows.

Saw bits and pieces of Oprah Pt2-I still say he's a dull jerk.

[2BNTV]

I can't believe they don't automatically drug test the winners. For crying out loud, they test children's ponies at horse shows.

Saw bits and pieces of Oprah Pt2-I still say he's a dull jerk.

Just the way he figured out the way to cheat includes figuring out how he could use PED's and find a way to pass all the blood work invovled. He devised an intricate system to say the least.

Unfortunately, people who fell from grace that accumulated a lot of money will still enjoy a certain lifestyle. If they can't, they will find someone sympathic to their plight and they will help to help them live comfortably. :(

[paulandjean]

A year from now, all will be forgotten.

[Patty55]

A year from now, all will be forgotten.

Yep, time a lot for OJ and Pete Rose.

[DAWN MARIE]

The lesson learned should be "truth ALWAYS rises to the top. AWAYS." Sometimes it takes longer than other times but truth will always prevail. That's what I was thinking when the news came out about Armstrong. Same with the other guy who had the pretend girlfriend. I thought the same with the Clinton/Monica scandal came to light and when Tiger Woods got busted by his wife. Always the same. When will we ever learn?

[jblum315]

Never had the least interest in Lance Armstrong or in cycling as a competitive sport

[rubicon]

The First Commandment is quite clear.

"And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Exodus 20 NIV - The Ten Commandments - And God spoke - Bible Gateway (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+20&version=NIV)

ilovetv: that is exactly what came to my mind but you said it better. Thank you. I never ever could get excited about celebrity

[graciegirl]

I saw the special about him on Television the other night and he was even worse than I had imaginined with intimidating other bike riders and getting them to do illegal medical stuff and giving large sums to controlling organizations to overlook his wrongdoings.. What a............


I can't even think of a word bad enough to say in mixed company.

It seems the whole sport is corrupted.

[2BNTV]

I saw the special about him on Television the other night and he was even worse than I had imaginined with intimidating other bike riders and getting them to do illegal medical stuff and giving large sums to controlling organizations to overlook his wrongdoings.. What a............


I can't even think of a word bad enough to say in mixed company.

It seems the whole sport is corrupted.

Lance was an intimidating bully that threatened everyone who didn't go along for the ride. :D

He was the most litgious athlete ever and I was never a fan of him or bycicle racing. I did admire hime for his overcoming cancer until it was made known he used PED's. I find the way he conducted himself to be shameful and totally unjustified in any way shape of form. I don't feel sorry for him as he did this to himself and others who came in contact with him are suffering due to his wrong doing.

We should never look to athletes as role models unless they have deserved reputation for clean living and hard work,

[paulandjean]

A year from now,all will be forgotten........... Tiger, Michael Vick, and on and on.

[graciegirl]

A year from now,all will be forgotten........... Tiger, Michael Vick, and on and on.

Interesting. Why do you think so?

[DougB]

Who is Lance Armstrong?

[Topspinmo]

Any time big money in any sport or anything else some will find away to cheat or gain an edge. IMO also consider special schools/Academy's based around sport cheating, after all they get round the clock attention gaining edge over competition. As far as those cycler's, baseball, and probably Football. They find a way to gain a edge and not get caught. I find it odd that they wouldn't award Armstrongs wins to the second place winners cause they were also suspected cheating (but nobody remembers who comes in second place, so wasn't worth investigating). Probably the only teams that wasn't cheating was the last place finishers. So have to ask the question if everybody is cheating what's the point?

I also find it odd that Armstrong never failed drug test. IMO He should of never admitted it after 5 or so years denile gambling on crying on Opry it will go away. They Caught the guy doing it illegal to somebody else and ratted out people he was druging so he would get lighter jail time (wouldn't that be considered cheating?). Course they went after the famed ones. I bet some looser's probably on the list also but who cares about looser's they have nothing to take and don't make news headlines. I hate to say it but Cheating/lieing in all forms goes on more that people realize. IMO (I hope I'm wrong):pray:Only the few with morle integrity and honor don't do it.