LAPD says Dorner is dead

[senior citizen]

Update: LAPD says Dorner is dead, KTLA TV reports (http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities)

UPDATE: LAPD says Dorner is dead

NOW they are saying otherwise..............

[senior citizen]

Dorner believed dead, according to media reports (http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities)

Manhunt is over. Charred body removed from cabin; Dorner believed dead.

[graciegirl]

Betcha most of us were watching.

Television is the eyes of the world.

I heard that there is a large group of people who has made Dorner their hero. I will never understand how that could happen.

He was another unstable, obsessed with anger person.

[Golfingnut]

With him dead, we just saved several million dollars in a dumb court case.

[pooh]

May God forgive me, but GOOD! Now, let's hope it is him and not someone else.

[paulandjean]

I never put police up on a statue,Just because he wore that blue uniform. He was just a man,and not a good one either.

[gocubsgo]

As of 8AM this morning, they are saying they never ID the body that is in there because it was too hot to enter. The news outlets are saying the reports of him being the one in there are false. I would say it has to be him. Who else would it be?

[Taltarzac725]

Christopher Dorner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Jordan_Dorner)

I do hope they look very closely into whatever set this man off to begin with. Always a very stupid move though to use violence to prove your case especially with Dorner's complaint about the alleged excessive force by a fellow LAPD officer Teresa Evans on schizophrenic suspect Christopher Gettler. http://wdv.com/Various/Writings/Dorner/

[nitehawk]

Is Dorner really dead --- did Hitler escape to South America --- who really shot Kennedy --- reminded me of the siege of Waco --- the killing of Bonny and Clyde ---- Thousand of shots fired ????? ---- the television said the suspect tried to exit the rear door and was pushed back in ??????? Dead men tell no tales !!!!!!

[2BNTV]

As of 8AM this morning, they are saying they never ID the body that is in there because it was too hot to enter. The news outlets are saying the reports of him being the one in there are false. I would say it has to be him. Who else would it be?

:agree: but I guess they want to be absolutely positive it's him.

It seems like a tragic story in that he just went off the deep end after he got fired. So sorry that several people died. :(

[Taltarzac725]

:agree: but I guess they want to be absolutely positive it's him.

It seems like a tragic story in that he just went off the deep end after he got fired. So sorry that several people died. :(

It will turn out even more tragic if there were something to the allegations he made against his fellow officer. From Dorner's Facebook posting, it sounds like the police department turned on him for his making accusations of excessive force. On the other side, he could be making it up of course but this kind of response from the police department hints at a cover up. Not saying there is anything to Dorner's claims however. He certainly needed some kind of therapy more than anything else judging by the actions he has taken.

[shcisamax]

He may not have been very grounded but I wouldn't be surprised to find that his allegations were true. THE LAPD has always been corrupt...do we remember Rodney King incident with excessive force? and whistle blowers are generally ostracized at minimum and their lives ruined often. It sounds though he just completely lost it. The whole incident is concerning.

[graciegirl]

There have been people who have lost their jobs unfairly before and there will be people who will lose them unfairly again but that isn't an excuse to go on a killing rampage.

We all have to face awful disappointment and terribly unjust things sometimes. He must have had some serious mental issues or PTSS from being in military service to kill such innocent people.

Some people are walking around time bombs.

[shcisamax]

Absolutely it is no excuse. And undoubtedly he has stability issues.

[karostay]

We'll never know the other 1/2 of the story.
LAPD made themselves judge Jury and executioner

[Taltarzac725]

Absolutely it is no excuse. And undoubtedly he has stability issues.

Very true. Actions speak a lot louder than any words.

[graciegirl]

We'll never know the other 1/2 of the story.
LAPD made themselves judge Jury and executioner

I get from this thread that some think that he might be justified for his anger at his dismissal. But as I said before, that isn't enough to justify killing a bunch of people.

Please explain. Is the LAPD so corrupt in your opinion to be completely not trusted?

I have seen the stories of violence but excessive force does happen everywhere sometimes.

I wonder what other people who live near LA feel about the law enforcement community.

It was ultimately the San Bernardina Police Force that was in charge during the fire.

Being "against" a police force is new to me.

[paulandjean]

We'll never know the other 1/2 of the story.
LAPD made themselves judge Jury and executioner

Guess thats what you do,when bullets are flying at you from his guns.

[Taltarzac725]

I get from this thread that some think that he might be justified for his anger at his dismissal. But as I said before, that isn't enough to justify killing a bunch of people.

Please explain. Is the LAPD so corrupt in your opinion to be completely not trusted?

I have seen the stories of violence but excessive force does happen everywhere sometimes.

I wonder what other people who live near LA feel about the law enforcement community.

It was ultimately the San Bernardina Police Force that was in charge during the fire.

Being "against" a police force is new to me.

It is usually a powerful clique that cannot be trusted. Not the entire department of whatever. You saw this at Penn State with the football program and again with the Catholic Church scandal involving widespread sexual abuse by priests.

I would expect there is evidence out there --one way or another-- of the alleged beating of Christopher Gettler by Officer Teresa Evans http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/10/local/la-me-lapd-dorner-20130211.

[karostay]

We all knew from day one. He was not going to be taken alive.
He had a story and it wasn't to be told..When police are so paranoid as to shoot innocent public because their vehicle looked similar speaks loudly.
This man hunt rival's any I can remember in past history

[janmcn]

The two cleaning ladies that he tied up deserve the one million dollar reward, as their telephone call led to his capture IMO.

[shcisamax]

Couldn't agree more. For sure, it would be the best cleaning job they have ever done :)

[Taltarzac725]

Couple: "Calm" Christopher Dorner tied us up in our condo - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57569335/couple-calm-christopher-dorner-tied-us-up-in-our-condo/)

I remember being near a mudslide which occurred at Davis Creek Park in Washoe County, Nevada back in the early 1980s and they did not seem to get the facts right for a few days. Same with this Dorner story. The facts change as they investigate.

I got a call from my Grandmother in MA wondering if I had to run from the mud.

[buggyone]

I was listening (don't know why, though) to Michelle Malkin on Hannity's show ranting about Dorner's Internet posting and that he was praising certain movie actors and actresses - and therefore, somehow, Hollywood was to blame for his actions. This is not a political comment but rather is a comment about Michelle Malkin's demented way of thinking. She is even more venomous than Ann Coulter who, at least, tries to inject some humor to her writing.

[Taltarzac725]

I was listening (don't know why, though) to Michelle Malkin on Hannity's show ranting about Dorner's Internet posting and that he was praising certain movie actors and actresses - and therefore, somehow, Hollywood was to blame for his actions. This is not a political comment but rather is a comment about Michelle Malkin's demented way of thinking. She is even more venomous than Ann Coulter who, at least, tries to inject some humor to her writing.

I kind of like Ann Coulter's humor at times. Not familiar with Malkin's views. Not sure how Hollywood could have helped Dorner if he had tried that route before becoming violent. Violence is never the answer and doubt if almost anyone in Hollywood would condone Dorner's killing spree.

[PJOHNS2654]

He may not have been very grounded but I wouldn't be surprised to find that his allegations were true. THE LAPD has always been corrupt...do we remember Rodney King incident with excessive force? and whistle blowers are generally ostracized at minimum and their lives ruined often. It sounds though he just completely lost it. The whole incident is concerning.

THE LAPD HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN CORUPT IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTRY. I REMEMBER RODNEY KING. HE WAS A 6'3" POWERFUL BUILT MAN ,PROBABLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PCP. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE FORCE NECESSARY TO SUBDUE SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL.:cus:

[janmcn]

NBC News reported tonight that the charred body found in the cabin has been positively identified as being Christopher Dorner. They also had a couple on that reported that they were the two people tied up by Dorner when they returned to their cabin and found him hiding. They are the ones that broke loose and called police. The earlier reports of the two maids must has been erroneous.

[nitehawk]

THE LAPD HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN CORUPT IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTRY. I REMEMBER RODNEY KING. HE WAS A 6'3" POWERFUL BUILT MAN ,PROBABLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PCP. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE FORCE NECESSARY TO SUBDUE SUCH AN INDIVIDUAL.:cus:

Why are you yelling ??? One mans opinion - i guess the video showed something that proved unnecessary force was used to restrain king -- do you know first hand about the lapd being one of the finest law enforcement org --- or is this your opinion also

[Taltarzac725]

LA cops stalked by suspect -- and a brutal past - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/us/dorner-lapd-history)

Interesting article on the LAPD and Dorner.

[ugotme]

We all knew from day one. He was not going to be taken alive.
He had a story and it wasn't to be told..When police are so paranoid as to shoot innocent public because their vehicle looked similar speaks loudly.
This man hunt rival's any I can remember in past history


He may have had a story to tell, but you don't go around killing people to tell it.

In my opinion - he got what he deserved !

[Taltarzac725]

He may have had a story to tell, but you don't go around killing people to tell it.

In my opinion - he got what he deserved !

I agree. He lost all credibility when he took the law into his own hands. But, given the size of the LAPD there will probably still be bad apples. They seemed to encourage the bad apples to infect the rest of the barrel before their reforms.

This is a good article about Dorner and the manhunt of him. http://www.officer.com/news/10879480/mistakes-credited-in-ex-la-cops-capture

[ugotme]

I agree. He lost all credibility when he took the law into his own hands. But, given the size of the LAPD there will probably still be bad apples. They seemed to encourage the bad apples to infect the rest of the barrel before their reforms.


Unfortunately in ANY group there will always be a small percentage of bad apples.

This applies anywhere. I guess that's just life.

[shcisamax]

I don't think anyone on this thread is saying Dorner had a right to do what he did. Everyone has agreed his actions were totally unacceptable and horrific for some so he had to be taken down. I think what is getting confused is there are those who think what he said about the LAPD had merit and the irate posters are interpreting that as support for him and his actions. Everyone agrees he should not have done what he did no matter what happened with the LAPD. That said, people should not be afraid of the underlying story or angry with those who are looking at the story behind the story.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't think anyone on this thread is saying Dorner had a right to do what he did. Everyone has agreed his actions were totally unacceptable and horrific for some so he had to be taken down. I think what is getting confused is there are those who think what he said about the LAPD had merit and the irate posters are interpreting that as support for him and his actions. Everyone agrees he should not have done what he did no matter what happened with the LAPD. That said, people should not be afraid of the underlying story or angry with those who are looking at the story behind the story.

They did say that they would look into the back story. Not sure how hard they will look though. Something sounds a bit strange with the father and son's statements about Teresa Evans alleged assault on the schizophrenic son.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-had-history-of-complaints-against-fellow-lapd-officers.html http://www.workers.org/2013/02/11/chickens-come-home-to-roost-chris-dorner-los-angeles-police-brutality/

In a legal clinic at the U of MN back around 1988, I tried to help an inmate who claimed he had been assaulted by the Minneapolis PD but he could not remember the exact date and time and the police department would not hand over the records of this inmate's stay without a specific date and time. The police do play games with lawyers and the media is all I am trying to say.