Cart / Car merge lane on Morse Blvd.

[DonH57]

Is it just me or is this area really dangerous. Travelling southbound by cart on Morse despite signalling and placing my hand out in advance We've had cars excellerate and swerve around sometimes blowing the horn and the one finger salute. Just curious how many others have almost been hit. I know cars have the right away. I just wish it was a better designed crossing. It's the only one we've had trouble with traffic wise.

[mulligan]

In a posted merge cars DO NOT have the right of way, but sometimes it's not worth fighting for.

[Arctic Fox]

Is it just me or is this area really dangerous. Travelling southbound by cart on Morse despite signalling and placing my hand out in advance We've had cars accellerate and swerve around sometimes blowing the horn and the one finger salute. Just curious how many others have almost been hit. I know cars have the right away. I just wish it was a better designed crossing. It's the only one we've had trouble with traffic wise.

Agreed - there should be a posted 20 mph limit for the 100 yards before the barriers to give carts a chance to merge. Cars have to slow to below that anyway as they approach the barriers, so why not make them do so slightly earlier?

[janmcn]

Is it just me or is this area really dangerous. Travelling southbound by cart on Morse despite signalling and placing my hand out in advance We've had cars excellerate and swerve around sometimes blowing the horn and the one finger salute. Just curious how many others have almost been hit. I know cars have the right away. I just wish it was a better designed crossing. It's the only one we've had trouble with traffic wise.

What intersection on Morse are you referring?

[DonH57]

Yes, Sorry I did'nt specify which one. The merge lane just before the Morse / 466 intersection so southbound carts can cross over to the tunnels under 466 and Morse.

[DDoug]

Bottom line you have a solid white line and you are going left of center car cart or bike who would you say has the right of way. The real bad intersection is Morse and Rio Grand going north. But yes it is very dangerous driving around The Villages thats why I drive fast to get a way from everyone

[ilovetv]

Is it just me or is this area really dangerous. Travelling southbound by cart on Morse despite signalling and placing my hand out in advance We've had cars excellerate and swerve around sometimes blowing the horn and the one finger salute. Just curious how many others have almost been hit. I know cars have the right away. I just wish it was a better designed crossing. It's the only one we've had trouble with traffic wise.

Bottom line: never assume another driver knows how to drive, nor that he ever read FLORIDA's rules of the road.

It's best to let them have their way and kill themselves, not you.

[DonH57]

I agree Ilove. Better them than me. Usually the fools will get theirs.

[scarecrow1]

The cars have the right of way that's because they are in the lane to begin with and the sign says carts merge ahead. We have a big problem here in the villages with people waving carts to go in front of them at gates and else where. It's simple cars have the right of way unless posted otherwise. Stop waving carts through then they will start driving correctly every were.

[LittleDog]

The cars have the right of way that's because they are in the lane to begin with and the sign says carts merge ahead. We have a big problem here in the villages with people waving carts to go in front of them at gates and else where. It's simple cars have the right of way unless posted otherwise. Stop waving carts through then they will start driving correctly every were.

On Occasion I have waved carts thru usually when there is a long line of cars on the road waiting to exit a gate and there are some golf carts trying to cross the road. It's no big deal to let a few carts cross as they would have to wait forever for the cars to exit at the gate. It's no big deal as I'm not moving anyway. I'm sure if I were in a cart there I would appreciate it if someone would let me cross. It only takes a few seconds.

John

[Bogie Shooter]

On Occasion I have waved carts thru usually when there is a long line of cars on the road waiting to exit a gate and there are some golf carts trying to cross the road. It's no big deal to let a few carts cross as they would have to wait forever for the cars to exit at the gate. It's no big deal as I'm not moving anyway. I'm sure if I were in a cart there I would appreciate it if someone would let me cross. It only takes a few seconds.

John

Some cart drivers then assume they have the right-a-way in the future. We must train them right.:police:

[gatherer47]

It can be very dangerous there.In fact I often just go on Carrera and stop at the stop sign and wait for an opening to cross over.Safer than merging.

[rustyp]

Yesterday I was at the Morse gate in my cart waiting to turn onto the cart bridge from the center of the road. A nice lady is at the resident gate in her car. She proceeds through moves to center lane then stops and waves me across. I refuse because the gate guard keeps waving cars through on the visitor's side. Sure enough a car doesn't want to wait for her and weaves around around on her right. Would have nailed me if I would have gone. This happens very often there. It is a very nice jesture to stop but please don't. It creates a very dangerous situation for all.

[rhredd1654]

:smiley::smiley::smiley:I'm sorry, but one of the reasons I located here was that the developer touted this as a "golf cart community". Why all the cars? Not sure that the gate attendant is conscious of the cart traffic, but should be. Another good reason for a tunnel.

[Biker Dog]

On Occasion I have waved carts thru usually when there is a long line of cars on the road waiting to exit a gate and there are some golf carts trying to cross the road. It's no big deal to let a few carts cross as they would have to wait forever for the cars to exit at the gate. It's no big deal as I'm not moving anyway. I'm sure if I were in a cart there I would appreciate it if someone would let me cross. It only takes a few seconds.

John

Thanks John, I totally agree with you. Don't know why some people are in such a rush to go no where.:BigApplause:

[mulligan]

As other posters have noted, do not stop for carts sitting at a stop sign, because the cars behind you do not expect you to stop in the middle of the road. The cart paths have stop signs, and are required to wait until they can safely cross, merge or turn.

[DonH57]

The ideal situation would be for the carts and cars not to have to share the same pavement but what can you do but just take caution. I don't understand the rush either.

[memason]

The ideal situation would be for the carts and cars not to have to share the same pavement but what can you do but just take caution. I don't understand the rush either.

I agree.... we should ban cars! :1rotfl:

[Mikeod]

:smiley::smiley::smiley:I'm sorry, but one of the reasons I located here was that the developer touted this as a "golf cart community". Why all the cars? Not sure that the gate attendant is conscious of the cart traffic, but should be. Another good reason for a tunnel.

The gate attendant has another concern greater than the golf carts. In this season, there is enough traffic going north on Morse that it can get backed onto 466. Remember that the cars going north on Morse are followed by those turning onto Morse from 466. It is important to keep that intersection clear as there is a fire station with paramedics there. A golf cart backup on Morse is less a problem.

[looneycat]

The cars have the right of way that's because they are in the lane to begin with and the sign says carts merge ahead. We have a big problem here in the villages with people waving carts to go in front of them at gates and else where. It's simple cars have the right of way unless posted otherwise. Stop waving carts through then they will start driving correctly every were.

actually I believe it says cars and carts merge ahead so at the merge point they share right of way...of course one must always wait for a break in traffic. if it is that busy it will back up at the gate and usually a courteous driver will let the carts through.

[TomW]

Kindness is as kindness does. Causing a half dozen cars to come to an unexpected stop because someone wants to be kind and let 2 carts cross is more dangerous than just driving through like everyone at that intersection expects you to do. Please don't decide to be both kind and unsafe at the exact same time!!!!

[Skybo]

Kindness is as kindness does. Causing a half dozen cars to come to an unexpected stop because someone wants to be kind and let 2 carts cross is more dangerous than just driving through like everyone at that intersection expects you to do. Please don't decide to be both kind and unsafe at the exact same time!!!!

That's true...you may end up killing the cart driver with kindness if someone rear-ends you and pushes you into the cart that you are waving across.

[redwitch]

I'm one of those cart drivers that refuses to go when a car kindly waves me through at the gates. However, Morse at 466 is an exception. There is too much traffic and it is next to impossible to merge during certain times without help. A car shouldn't stop but slowing down, which they should do anyway so the gate can open, is a great help. I actually try to pop over early and get into the double yellow area. Yes, I know this is illegal but it is so much safer there than on the right and trying to merge at the last second or driving on the road with the cars.

As to crossing to the little wooden bridge, that can be almost suicidal. The gate attendants have been instructed to always let the gate drop between vehicles. If this is done, then carts have a chance to cross. However, they frequently do not let the gate go all the way down, especially for visitors. I've seen carts lined up to the point they are sitting in the traffic lane. But I guess that's better than cars breaking the law and blocking 466.

The reality is this spot is a death waiting to happen. They really need to break down and build a tunnel or bridge. The longer they wait, the greater the risk. The reality is traffic is only going to increase.

[Bogie Shooter]

Lets see, how long has this crossover situation existed, 10 years - 15 years. Wonder how many accidents? 1, 50, 100 ? Sure not an accident every day , week, month.
Guess it seems to be working.

[tzangrilli]

One easy cure for the gate, or any of the gates for that matter, would be that only one side could be up at a time. If the visitors side was up the card reader would delay until that side went down. In an emergency the gate attendant would control with an override.

[coffeebean]

:smiley::smiley::smiley:I'm sorry, but one of the reasons I located here was that the developer touted this as a "golf cart community". Why all the cars? Not sure that the gate attendant is conscious of the cart traffic, but should be. Another good reason for a tunnel.
Not everyone owns a golf cart or two but one day, we will. For now, we get around with our car.

The builder touted this community as a golf cart community and that is exactly what we have here. The tunnel and multi modal path system we have here in TV is like no other anywhere. That is quite an achievement by the builder and I'm in awe of this every day I venture out in my car. I'm more in awe every time I have the opportunity to drive around in a golf cart.