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deano_hoosier
04-01-2013, 04:40 AM
With the success (revenue) that the Trail Package brings in, I've heard that consideration is being given to introduce a "Priority Package" kind of deal for the winter months on the executive courses.

You'd have the opportunity to purchase a 4-month EPP (Executive Priority Package) that would allow you and other EPP holders to gain priority on t-times till mid-afternoon. (That allows the "golf free for life" commitment to still hold true, but only after the mid-afternoon hours during Jan-April.)

There's even talk of adding a handicap system and daily tournaments for those who also buy the 9-hole handicap package for the 4 winter months.

Looks like you could do all this separate from the Trail Package deal...which doesn't seem like such a good deal in and of itself as it only looks good after the mid-afternoon time.

It's all just rumor as I don't have any inside knowledge, but sounds interesting.

Ragman
04-01-2013, 05:11 AM
With the success (revenue) that the Trail Package brings in, I've heard that consideration is being given to introduce a "Priority Package" kind of deal for the winter months on the executive courses.

You'd have the opportunity to purchase a 4-month EPP (Executive Priority Package) that would allow you and other EPP holders to gain priority on t-times till mid-afternoon. (That allows the "golf free for life" commitment to still hold true, but only after the mid-afternoon hours during Jan-April.)

There's even talk of adding a handicap system and daily tournaments for those who also buy the 9-hole handicap package for the 4 winter months.

Looks like you could do all this separate from the Trail Package deal...which doesn't seem like such a good deal in and of itself as it only looks good after the mid-afternoon time.

It's all just rumor as I don't have any inside knowledge, but sounds interesting.

I don't know where you heard this, but it would be a terrible idea.

In addition to being a logistical nightmare, it would seriously compromise the basic promise of "free executive golf". Trail fees serve to help fund the golf course maintenance, but this would create a " class envy " mentality.

The system now in place is amazingly fair to all golfers.

:gc:

Golfingnut
04-01-2013, 05:56 AM
With the success (revenue) that the Trail Package brings in, I've heard that consideration is being given to introduce a "Priority Package" kind of deal for the winter months on the executive courses.

You'd have the opportunity to purchase a 4-month EPP (Executive Priority Package) that would allow you and other EPP holders to gain priority on t-times till mid-afternoon. (That allows the "golf free for life" commitment to still hold true, but only after the mid-afternoon hours during Jan-April.)

There's even talk of adding a handicap system and daily tournaments for those who also buy the 9-hole handicap package for the 4 winter months.

Looks like you could do all this separate from the Trail Package deal...which doesn't seem like such a good deal in and of itself as it only looks good after the mid-afternoon time.

It's all just rumor as I don't have any inside knowledge, but sounds interesting.

I try never to say never, but I for one cannot see The Villages inflicting something that would be this discriminatory against the full time residents. What you are insinuating would mean stripping the full time residents of the most popular amenity offered and accepted that being free executive golf for life during any daylight hour.

One can pay the additional fee for the trail fee for your cart, but that does not interfere with your free for life if you walk. To restrict full time residents from this free for life amenity would be a legal contradiction to the original contract with 10's of thousands of residents.

FROM THE VILLAGES WEBSITE: That's right! As a Village resident you'll enjoy Free golf* for the rest of your life on all of our executive golf courses.

* Green fees on the executive courses are free for residents. There is no charge to a resident for walking. A trail fee (per person) is required for use of a golf car on the courses and may be paid daily, semi-annually or annually

Parker
04-01-2013, 06:16 AM
Slippery slope.

villagerjack
04-01-2013, 06:32 AM
Most golfers already are basically guaranteed morning times if they golf 3 sometimes 4 times a week. This would destroy the successful business model and lower home values. Sales of new homes would plummet. It will never happen.

graciegirl
04-01-2013, 06:48 AM
Another danged rumor.

Mikeod...are you reading this?? You serve on a golf committee. Do you have any inside information you can share?

bluedog103
04-01-2013, 07:14 AM
This was discussed yesterday during dinner with friends. Most were in favor of this, providing the fee is no more than the reported $300 per person per year. The general feeling was that if it will get us a tee time, it's a great idea. We'll see.

Bay Kid
04-01-2013, 07:44 AM
It would be great to have a handicap system on executive courses.


With the success (revenue) that the Trail Package brings in, I've heard that consideration is being given to introduce a "Priority Package" kind of deal for the winter months on the executive courses.

You'd have the opportunity to purchase a 4-month EPP (Executive Priority Package) that would allow you and other EPP holders to gain priority on t-times till mid-afternoon. (That allows the "golf free for life" commitment to still hold true, but only after the mid-afternoon hours during Jan-April.)

There's even talk of adding a handicap system and daily tournaments for those who also buy the 9-hole handicap package for the 4 winter months.

Looks like you could do all this separate from the Trail Package deal...which doesn't seem like such a good deal in and of itself as it only looks good after the mid-afternoon time.

It's all just rumor as I don't have any inside knowledge, but sounds interesting.

Challenger
04-01-2013, 07:58 AM
Sounds like a rumor to me--- However if instituted the subsrquent class action law suit will provide lots of fodder for this forum

scarecrow1
04-01-2013, 08:00 AM
First off golf is not free for life if you are handicap and need the assistance of a cart. Then on top of that you have to pay an annual FEE for the sleeve that goes on your cart. To do away with the crowded tee times they need to build more executive golf courses south of 466A. They are building houses faster than the courses that should be over there.

Mikeod
04-01-2013, 08:27 AM
Another danged rumor.

Mikeod...are you reading this?? You serve on a golf committee. Do you have any inside information you can share?

We meet on the 11th and I'll put the question on the agenda. We've never had discussions on this topic. However, my belief is that this (the priority system) won't happen. First, the current system works well even in the high season. As others have stated, most people are able to get a time. It may not be the course you want, or the perfect time, but it is a chance to play. Those who are in larger groups, like 16 or more players, may get shut out when some members have high point counts. Second, it really does fly against the "free for life" statement, especially since the rumor limits access for non-priority to mid-afternoon. In the winter, that would result in a crowd of people trying to finish 9 holes before dark.

nitehawk
04-01-2013, 08:29 AM
FROM THE VILLAGES WEBSITE: That's right! As a Village resident you'll enjoy Free golf* for the rest of your life on all of our executive golf courses.---Does not say --- Free golf all day

ajbrown
04-01-2013, 08:41 AM
Seems like a good thread on a day like today. I was talking to a neighbor who has a friend that played golf with someone that worked with a lady whose husband was involved with the executive golf in TV. Seems this rumor is spot on. In fact, from the sounds of it, the EPP system would have additional levels. For instance, there is a premium package that allows you to bring spectators and even hit mulligans as long as no premium members were behind you. He was not sure of the cost. Will be interesting to hear more…..

Ragman
04-01-2013, 08:54 AM
With the success (revenue) that the Trail Package brings in, I've heard that consideration is being given to introduce a "Priority Package" kind of deal for the winter months on the executive courses.

You'd have the opportunity to purchase a 4-month EPP (Executive Priority Package) that would allow you and other EPP holders to gain priority on t-times till mid-afternoon. (That allows the "golf free for life" commitment to still hold true, but only after the mid-afternoon hours during Jan-April.)

There's even talk of adding a handicap system and daily tournaments for those who also buy the 9-hole handicap package for the 4 winter months.

Looks like you could do all this separate from the Trail Package deal...which doesn't seem like such a good deal in and of itself as it only looks good after the mid-afternoon time.

It's all just rumor as I don't have any inside knowledge, but sounds interesting.


You Got ME, I just caught on and I'm pretty good at sniffing out this stuff.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::BigApplause:

George Bieniaszek
04-01-2013, 08:55 AM
How about if renters get assessed a higher point value per round of golf (say 2 points per round). That way the property owners who enjoy playing golf will have a better shot at the more desirable tee times during the winter months.

graciegirl
04-01-2013, 08:56 AM
omigosh. I feel so dumb.

ROCKETMAN
04-01-2013, 09:38 AM
Horrible idea. Will start to create a class system. Now it is fair to everyone with no cost. Right now if you don't mind walking, golf executive style is free forever.

saratogaman
04-01-2013, 09:39 AM
Don't forget...it's April Fools Day!

deano_hoosier
04-01-2013, 09:50 AM
Don't forget...it's April Fools Day!

Figured this idea might get folks going a bit on this April 1st.

I apologize if any blood pressure points popped.

Deam

ilovetv
04-01-2013, 10:33 AM
]First off golf is not free for life if you are handicap and need the assistance of a cart. Then on top of that you have to pay an annual FEE for the sleeve that goes on your cart. [/B]To do away with the crowded tee times they need to build more executive golf courses south of 466A. They are building houses faster than the courses that should be over there.

This is not the first time I've seen people sneer at "free golf for life" as if it's false, and act like they're being ripped off when in fact, it's the best deal around...anywhere. Clearly, it means you pay no greens fees on the executive courses, and it's free if you walk.

If you feel you're being ripped off by or can't afford a paltry $141 per year ($11.75/month) for the trail fee for the carts' wear and tear on the courses, then you're just unhappy and unwilling to look at the good things in life.....like being able at all to go out and play golf instead of just sit inside a house or nursing home.

graciegirl
04-01-2013, 10:36 AM
Deeno. I am gonna find you and bop you good. You scoundrel.:a20:

mulligan
04-01-2013, 10:41 AM
As a campaign manager, you should be all over this stuff, Gracie.

784caroline
04-01-2013, 10:41 AM
Sounds like a rumor to me--- However if instituted the subsrquent class action law suit will provide lots of fodder for this forum

What would the class action suit be based on....."renegging on advertising" or "thats what we were promised"???? Where is the contractual provision in your deed or other papers that is part of the deed, you can point to that provides you free golf for life...and that it could never be amended !!!

Why are we even discussing this runmor...or better yet mabe its an April Fools joke.

bluedog103
04-01-2013, 10:59 AM
Figured this idea might get folks going a bit on this April 1st.

I apologize if any blood pressure points popped.

Deam

Nice job Deano. I caught on pretty quickly so I thought I'd help you out with my post # 7.

Mikeod
04-01-2013, 12:07 PM
:oops:

CFrance
04-01-2013, 12:45 PM
You have to be careful with those April Fools jokes. Some of the "more seasoned" golfers may be prone to apoplexy!

Nicely done, though. Very subtle.

villagerjack
04-01-2013, 12:45 PM
This was discussed yesterday during dinner with friends. Most were in favor of this, providing the fee is no more than the reported $300 per person per year. The general feeling was that if it will get us a tee time, it's a great idea. We'll see.

I am up, pull the ladder up. I have no problem with the fee either and it would get me better T times however what about those people who cannot afford it. This class distinctions turn my stomach.

batman911
04-01-2013, 04:02 PM
I want free everything for life. How about you?

golf2140
04-01-2013, 04:43 PM
That was a great post. Had the ones who want a free life jumping off!!!!!!:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Bay Kid
04-02-2013, 06:15 AM
It would be great to have handicap system.

We meet on the 11th and I'll put the question on the agenda. We've never had discussions on this topic. However, my belief is that this (the priority system) won't happen. First, the current system works well even in the high season. As others have stated, most people are able to get a time. It may not be the course you want, or the perfect time, but it is a chance to play. Those who are in larger groups, like 16 or more players, may get shut out when some members have high point counts. Second, it really does fly against the "free for life" statement, especially since the rumor limits access for non-priority to mid-afternoon. In the winter, that would result in a crowd of people trying to finish 9 holes before dark.

Golfingnut
04-02-2013, 06:24 AM
FROM THE VILLAGES WEBSITE: That's right! As a Village resident you'll enjoy Free golf* for the rest of your life on all of our executive golf courses.---Does not say --- Free golf all day

It does give the impression and understanding that free golf for life is non restricted and would stand up in court. Don't try to complicate the issue. The OP was nothing but bait on a trolling hook.

graciegirl
04-02-2013, 07:01 AM
It does give the impression and understanding that free golf for life is non restricted and would stand up in court. Don't try to complicate the issue. The OP was nothing but bait on a trolling hook.

It was APRIL FOOLS DAY YESTERDAY.

Regular programming will now resume.;)

He caught me too.

Deeno Hoosier? You better come to the next Crispers, fella!;)