Some organic foods grown in the world's worst environmental cesspool

[senior citizen]

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Keep scrolling down for numerous photos; very very long article.

“Organic” from China exposed: The shocking truth about “organic” foods grown in the world’s worst environmental cesspool...........

Take the time to read this.............

Glad our little mandarin oranges (cuties size) are a product of California...........

[blueash]

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales. There is a bit of truth in what he writes. There is not a single bit of evidence that any of the photos has any association with organic practices in China. He just threw in some generic pollution shots. And the line which gives it all away...

Claiming that the Chinese official wouldn't swim in a river when he was dared to do so .."Because the river there is so polluted that swimming in it would mean certain death." The dare was on a blog by an eyeglass retailer. No where in the original article (which by the way seems to indicate that the government is trying to clean up) is there any basis for this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/21/chinese-official-swim-polluted-river)

[ilovetv]

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales.
.........this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/21/chinese-official-swim-polluted-river)

Scare tactic? Xenophobia? Is Mayor Bloomberg of NYC a scare tactician or xenophobic because he doesn't want his voters buying/consuming foreign-produced sugar used in big-gulp sized sodas?

Talk about "shooting the messenger" and "labeling" people without knowing them.....

[blueash]

I'm very sorry. Apparently I am required to get to know the author of an article before I can characterize the words they use or the accuracy of the claims in that article. While I don't know the mayor, it is news to me that his attempt to ban high volume soft drinks was designed at lowering the importation of foreign produced sugar

[senior citizen]

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales. There is a bit of truth in what he writes. There is not a single bit of evidence that any of the photos has any association with organic practices in China. He just threw in some generic pollution shots. And the line which gives it all away...

Claiming that the Chinese official wouldn't swim in a river when he was dared to do so .."Because the river there is so polluted that swimming in it would mean certain death." The dare was on a blog by an eyeglass retailer. No where in the original article (which by the way seems to indicate that the government is trying to clean up) is there any basis for this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/21/chinese-official-swim-polluted-river)

Thanks for the further research.........appreciate it

Imported foods causing more disease - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500368_162-57397680/imported-foods-causing-more-disease/)

I went to the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) website and found hundreds of articles on imported food from Asia and elsewhere having toxins and harmful “stuff”.
I began accumulating all of the dozens upon dozens of hyperlinks but doubt if anyone would have the time to read all of the CDC’s facts. Many PDF files as well............ Decided not to include them as it is tedious to read..........but I read them. The CDC is vigilant in trying to keep track of all of these imported foods grown in Asia and elsewhere............and the conditions in which they are found.

It’s not just vegetables and fruits......but seafood, spices, meat, etc. and things one wouldn’t even worry about, like the “baby corn” in your Chinese takeout.

Ditto for canned items and juices.

Years ago I found out that Price Chopper was using apple droppings from China (the ones on the ground, not on the tree) for their apple juice.

Lower cost for Price Chopper. This research came about after a bottle of Price Chopper apple juice developed the very weird “ring of toxins and mold” in a newly opened bottle in my frig.

I always bought MOTTS for our grandchildren as that is what they drank.............but our store was out, so I bought the Price Chopper brand.......long story, but found out a lot.

I spoke with corporate headquarters and their bottom line was that although YES they could have purchased VERMONT APPLES or NEW YORK STATE APPLES, they bought droppings from China..........it’s always about the profit. I began reading labels very conscientiously after that..........and was surprised where our pineapple, etc., etc. came from. It is a global economy now.


Whenever possible, I try to stick with foods home grown in the United States.......although even that sometimes has it’s issues.

[senior citizen]

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[Indydealmaker]

The link in your post does not seem to work so I cut and pasted it out of the reply code. This "article" was written by a salesman for a company that charges high prices for its products which are not made in China. Want to bet they are loosing market share and this bit of scare tactic, xenophobia, might be just the thing to increase sales. There is a bit of truth in what he writes. There is not a single bit of evidence that any of the photos has any association with organic practices in China. He just threw in some generic pollution shots. And the line which gives it all away...

Claiming that the Chinese official wouldn't swim in a river when he was dared to do so .."Because the river there is so polluted that swimming in it would mean certain death." The dare was on a blog by an eyeglass retailer. No where in the original article (which by the way seems to indicate that the government is trying to clean up) is there any basis for this author's ridiculous hyperbole.
Chinese environment official challenged to swim in polluted river | Environment | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/21/chinese-official-swim-polluted-river)
As an importer of Chinese agricultural/industrial chemicals with Chinese partners, I can tell you that I would not consume "organic" food from China. It is bad enough that U.S. "organic" food is not necessarily "pure" as inferred by the public, let alone invite trouble by importing from proven polluted environments.

[senior citizen]

As an importer of Chinese agricultural/industrial chemicals with Chinese partners, I can tell you that I would not consume "organic" food from China. It is bad enough that U.S. "organic" food is not necessarily "pure" as inferred by the public, let alone invite trouble by importing from proven polluted environments.


I , for one, appreciate your honesty...........

[blueash]

Thanks for the further research.........appreciate it

Whenever possible, I try to stick with foods home grown in the United States.......although even that sometimes has it’s issues

Agree. There are of course many other nations with food quality requirements equal to ours it is true that the growing conditions and governmental supervision in third world countries is not up to first world standards. My only reason for posting was that the article you posted is not a fair discussion of the issues. I wonder if you meant FDA when you list CDC. The CDC typically deals with disease outbreaks such as salmonella, shigella, and c. diff while the FDA is responsible for food safety and inspection. Sadly recent federal budget cutbacks have decreased the ability of the FDA to monitor both domestic and imported foods.

[senior citizen]

Agree. There are of course many other nations with food quality requirements equal to ours it is true that the growing conditions and governmental supervision in third world countries is not up to first world standards. My only reason for posting was that the article you posted is not a fair discussion of the issues. I wonder if you meant FDA when you list CDC. The CDC typically deals with disease outbreaks such as salmonella, shigella, and c. diff while the FDA is responsible for food safety and inspection. Sadly recent federal budget cutbacks have decreased the ability of the FDA to monitor both domestic and imported foods.

CDC - Food Safety Office - Food Safety (http://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/facts.html)
At the CDC website I found a zillion reports on various food issues.
Yes, it was basically about disease..........not inspection.

Search Results: imported foods (http://www.cdc.gov/search.do?queryText=imported+foods&action=search&searchButton.x=42&searchButton.y=7)
CDC WEBSITE
Just some articles re “imported foods”..........at Centers for Disease Control website. There are more, under different topics.
Earlier, I found quite a lot of information on the CDC website with regard to foods from Asia.......and other countries.

[senior citizen]

Following The Trail Of Toxic E-Waste - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-4579229.html?pageNum=2)

http://www.cbsnews.com/2102-18560_162-4579229.html

Larger print (printable version)



Following the Trail of Toxic E-Waste – CBS News


“We have a situation where we have 21st century toxics being managed in a 17th century environment”.


(four pages plus over 300+ comments)

[senior citizen]

Conventionally Grown Garlic Contaminated With Chemicals (http://www.naturalnews.com/022801.html)

Conventionally grown garlic contaminated with chemicals.....

Here’s another inference to Chinese garlic being grown in untreated sewage....

See hyperlink. Keep scrolling down for entire article on garlic.

I probably have a ton of that white garlic in my home right now..........I didn’t realize it was all grown in China.

Trader Joe’s stopped carrying it.........but I bought mine at Price Chopper........

[senior citizen]

» The shocking truth about ‘organic’ foods grown in the world’s worst environmental cesspool Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! (http://www.infowars.com/organic-from-china-exposed-the-shocking-truth-about-organic-foods-grown-in-the-worlds-worst-environmental-cesspool/)


Not sure if this link will work now. It was just sent to me by a friend who is into health foods, organically grown produce, etc.

Don’t shoot the messenger. Is it false? Or, is it true?

[tommy steam]

As an importer of Chinese agricultural/industrial chemicals with Chinese partners, I can tell you that I would not consume "organic" food from China. It is bad enough that U.S. "organic" food is not necessarily "pure" as inferred by the public, let alone invite trouble by importing from proven polluted environments.


This is from a man who knows.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

When I see the word "organis" in a supermarket, my mind automatically translates it into, "costs more for nothing better".

[blueash]

» The shocking truth about ‘organic’ foods grown in the world’s worst environmental cesspool Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! (http://www.infowars.com/organic-from-china-exposed-the-shocking-truth-about-organic-foods-grown-in-the-worlds-worst-environmental-cesspool/)


Not sure if this link will work now. It was just sent to me by a friend who is into health foods, organically grown produce, etc.

Don’t shoot the messenger. Is it false? Or, is it true?

Same article as in the first posting, just on a new website. I'm not sure you want to use anything on Alex Jones's website as a reference. Here is what his own website proudly proclaims:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

[blueash]

Great that you actually go and check for real data from reliable sources. Again all the CDC articles that I read dealt with food borne illness from bacteria, viruses, and other organisms. None dealt with the issues raised by the author of the article in the OP of poisons and toxins and heavy metals. Those are real issues deserving real thought but I didn't see any data on the CDC, or frankly the FDA's website on those concerns. It is a bit of a stretch when the head of the Australian Garlic growers association tells Australians that they should only buy Australian garlic because Chinese garlic isn't good, and you (the author) use that as proof. Again I agree with the thrust of the thread.. Third world farming practices are more likely to present a potential risk. I would suggest that if you are concerned you be selective in your shopping.

[ilovetv]

Great that you actually go and check for real data from reliable sources. Again all the CDC articles that I read dealt with food borne illness from bacteria, viruses, and other organisms. None dealt with the issues raised by the author of the article in the OP of poisons and toxins and heavy metals. Those are real issues deserving real thought but I didn't see any data on the CDC, or frankly the FDA's website on those concerns. It is a bit of a stretch when the head of the Australian Garlic growers association tells Australians that they should only buy Australian garlic because Chinese garlic isn't good, and you (the author) use that as proof. Again I agree with the thrust of the thread.. Third world farming practices are more likely to present a potential risk. I would suggest that if you are concerned you be selective in your shopping.

Maybe....just maybe....the Australian garlic growers' head KNOWS more than the average Australian (or American) about what are safe and unsafe food growing, packing, shipping and storage practices and how they compare between their country's and China's!! Not every corporate producer strategy is rooted in money mongering!

[Villages PL]

I seldom by anything that's organically grown unless the price is competitive with the regular-grown counterpart. I just don't see much of an advantage to it. And I certainly wouldn't buy any food that is imported from China. Aldi's sells garlic that comes from China; I won't buy it.

I believe the worst thing from China might be fish. I once read that the waters around China have a high concentration of mercury.

How about Mexico? Is all this talk about China making Mexican imports look better by comparison?

[rubicon]

As I understand it people are paying a whole lot more for something that is not appreciable different from all grown vegetables ????????????????