Latest on bombing suspects

[Heartnsoul]

latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.

[Patty55]

What Saudi National? Have I missed something?

[chuckinca]

What Porsche?

Pic of No 2 with white baseball hat was taken at the bombing scene.

What did your congressman say?

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[BarryRX]

latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.

Huh???

[graciegirl]

Huh???


Well said.

[wendyquat]

What Saudi National? Have I missed something?

If you missed this, you missed a lot! Lots of unanswered questions on this one!

[wendyquat]

Lets face it, you really can't get into this conversation without violating the "P" prohibition! You won't hear much truth about all this on the "alphabet stations"!
To each his own!

[paulandjean]

Welcome to the villages! Rumors, Rumors,Rumors.....................

[Heartnsoul]

I do have FACTS and not rumors however due to the rule we are NOT allowed to discuss politics you will have to research yourself. Just wanted you to know more to the story than the media will release. And yes Patty you did miss something if you don't know what is going on. I wish I could inform you of what truly is transpiring.

Just wanted to give update on the other one involved, the Saudi who is being transported back to his country today.

[KayakerNC]

Glenn Beck's "facts" sometimes don't match up to the real world. A few grains of salt are in order.:shrug:

[gomoho]

I think the Saudi is the first person they thought was involved, that somehow ended up in the hospital, but is now being deported??? Been out all morning so not up to date on the current happenings.

[graciegirl]

Confusion over Saudis in Boston following marathon attack – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com Blogs (http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/18/saudi-national-not-a-suspect-not-a-person-of-interest-in-boston-bombings/)

[Patty55]

Evidently he had a student visa for Findlay and an apartment in Boston. I guess that violate his visa.

[tucson]

[QUOTE=Heartnsoul;664861]latest theory (if you believe media) these guys had no connection with Islamist terrorist groups. Where did they get the Money for all this?? hmmm What's the point of saying no one helped them?? Do you realize the photo they are showing of suspect no 2 is when he was 14?? They want you to believe he was a normal american mixed up kid. Normal - driving around in Porsche, not liking america. Why do we take what is truth and reality and try to hide from it??

And most importantly where is the Saudi National?? Sent back to his country?? WHY??? I called my congressman and told him to get on this immediately. More than 2 were involved.
I believe this to be true. After 9/11, 13 members of Bin Laden's family were allowed to leave the country also. If anyone does not remember they flew out of Boston's Logan Airport, where most of them lived at the time. If one doesn't believe this , you can read about the Bin Laden family on Wikipedia.

[tucson]

Steve Emerson is the one that broke this news on Hannity 2 days after last Mon. bombing, not G.Beck. Glenn Beck was repeating the story. Steve Emerson is an expert on terrorism and got this true info from someone from ICE. You can read the details on Wikipedia's Steven Emerson pg.

[In awe of TV]

It's an ongoing investigation. Do you think all the 'facts' are going to be released? Do you think you'll ever know the 'facts'?

I think TOO much is revealed in the news. I believe it makes for copycat idiots wanting their names in the papers. Who knew about pressure cooker bombs? I read an article about how to make them! Seriously now!

I kinda have faith in the FBI getting all the facts. I really don't need to know them as I will not understand the motive behind this senseless bombing or any type of radical violence for that matter.

Report back on what your congressman's response. I'm sure he knows all the facts. (Being sarcastic)

[gomoho]

I don't see how it is POLITICAL to ? how they could determine so early on these brothers were acting on their own. Has nothing to do with being red or blue, but about protecting our country and curious as to how the investigation is proceeding. If this isn't something that affects all of us I don't know what does.

Personally I want all the facts I can get and I definitely want to be reassured the FBI didn't screw up again. Makes me a little nervous 'cause I always believed they were the end all be all of law enforcement. So yes, I need the facts and to not want to know is burying your head in the sand and blindly trusting. Can't go down that road personally.

[BarryRX]

I can straighten this out for everyone. It is obviously a massive conspiracy involving thousands of police, FBI, and homeland security. The bombings never really did happen...they were staged in a tv studio like the moon landings were. Also, there was another terrorist standing on the grassy knoll. Not only were Chechnyans involved, but also folks from the Czech Republic who were probably eating chex mix. As to the question "where did they get the money for this", I heard that Some rich Saudis sent them the twenty bucks to buy a pressure cooker. Now, here is what I really suggest. There are people right here in TV who are still suffering enormous pain because of this. For at least another couple of days, why doesn't everybody just cool your jets.

[Heartnsoul]

Here's a logical question for you - why keep trying to post political topics on a site that has a policy against that?

Guess I just like discussing REALITY and what is going on in the world that will not ONLY affect us but certainly will our children and grandchildren Some intellectual stimulation and updates on the bombings that yes did take place by Radical Muslims. (yes current events) I'm done posting on this topic though. I'll get back to the more important issues.

[Patty55]

I believe this to be true. After 9/11, 13 members of Bin Laden's family were allowed to leave the country also. If anyone does not remember they flew out of Boston's Logan Airport, where most of them lived at the time. If one doesn't believe this , you can read about the Bin Laden family on Wikipedia.

You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate.

[graciegirl]

Now on tonight's news on CNN they are discussing a triple murder of a man called Brendan Mess, a close friend of the older bomber. He and two others were murdered by having their throats cut eighteen months ago.. Five thousand dollars was at the scene so the motive wasn't robbery and the last person to have seen Brendan Mess alive was Tamaran, the dead bomber. (I can't spell his name) Brendan was a fitness person and could not have been easily overpowered. Their murders were thought to be by more than one person, and by someone who knew them.

These murders have not been solved, They were killed on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven in Waltham(?) Mass. September 11, 2011.

Tamaran did not go to this man, his friends funeral and..........Three months after the murders, Tamaran left for Russia.
murder of brendan mess - Bing News (http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=murder+of+brendan+mess&qpvt=murder+of+brendan+mess&FORM=EWRE)

[billethkid]

does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

[graciegirl]

does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

No. The American people will not stand for that. I don't know if there were more involved with the actual bombings, but someone influenced them.

They look like kids, but they are evil people.

[tucson]

You do know that Wikipedia is not always accurate.

This story IS accurate. I lived in Ma. at the time and remember the Bin Laden - Boston story in the news, it happened right after the bombing of the Twin Towers 9/11!! (GW Bush allowed them to leave Boston's Logan Airport) So unfortunately, history is repeating itself again!

[billethkid]

evil indeed.

btk

[gomoho]

Now on tonight's news on CNN they are discussing a triple murder of a man called Brendan Mess, a close friend of the older bomber. He and two others were murdered by having their throats cut eighteen months ago.. Five thousand dollars was at the scene so the motive wasn't robbery and the last person to have seen Brendan Mess alive was Tamaran, the dead bomber. (I can't spell his name) Brendan was a fitness person and could not have been easily overpowered. Their murders were thought to be by more than one person, and by someone who knew them.

These murders have not been solved, They were killed on the tenth anniversary of nine eleven in Waltham(?) Mass. September 11, 2011.

Tamaran did not go to this man, his friends funeral and..........Three months after the murders, Tamaran left for Russia.
murder of brendan mess - Bing News (http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=murder+of+brendan+mess&qpvt=murder+of+brendan+mess&FORM=EWRE)

Does anyone remember this murder - actually I think I heard there were 3 people killed in this assault - can't believe I don't remember any reports of this. Very strange - throats slit and marijuana sprinkled on their bodies..

[Bosoxfan]

I don't believe they were bankrolled by anyone. If that were the case then why did they have to rob a 711?

[senior citizen]

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[gomoho]

Senior Citizen - my question was if anyone remembered hearing about these 3 bizarre murders when the occurred in 2011? In this age of instant news seems that certainly would have reported on this, but I don't recall it at all, but maybe I was out of the loop so wondering if anyone else remembered back from 2011.

[senior citizen]

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[tucson]

There's a HUGE story on all of this that is NOT being reported. fyi-"beforeitsthe news.com"

[Heartnsoul]

does any warm blooded, breathing, lucid person believe for one minute they were acting alone? Of course not.

Does anyone really believe the killer radical in the hospital is telling the truth when he says they acted alone.? Of course not.

Before this case is all said and done, the legal system will have the killer in custody cleaned up looking like a choir boy who was led astray. That he was brain washed and really not responsible for his actions. Anybody wanna bet?

btk

I'm with you Bill. Of course he will say he acted alone. That is why they should be treating him like an "enemy combative" instead of using our court system. I don't for a minute think these guys acted ALONE. The Saudi that was sent back is very suspicious. Something going on there however Americans don't demand answers. This is the Third TERRORIST attack since 9/11. When is enough enough??? These guys are hardcore Radical Muslims.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Least news up here in Massachusetts is that Suspects were on welfare/public assistance so we (the taxpayers) funded these acts of terror. Go figure.

[senior citizen]

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[AriaGrandparents2013]

Oh forgot to mention that parents of Suspects who are now in Russia were on welfare/public assistance as well before returning to Russia.

I have a compelling question that I can't seem to find an appropriate explanation and that is this family came to the United States of American seeking politic asylum as they were facing persecution and accordingly allowed to immigrate to the USA...........so now what has change over in their Russian homeland that compels them to return to Russia? Just wondering?

[Golfer in Sanibel]

A question which bothers me is how did they get their hands on "military grade explosives" as reported many times by the media. I haven't seen C-5 for sale at Home Depot or 7-11.

[graciegirl]

The mother of the boys was living off us also and STEALING from stores.

Yes I heard that from a reliable news source. She was shoplifting...and maybe that is the reason they went back "home".

And of course, that young bomber will have all of his medical expenses covered while the victims with missing limbs and other horrible injuries will have to worry about the medical bills.

It just isn't right.

[blueash]

Eric Rudolph is the terrorist who planted a bomb at the Atlanta Olympics which is a very parallel crime to this one. He subscribed to a religion which while in most adherents is a religion of peace and love but where there are also extreme sects which believe they have the true vision and inspire their followers to act against the wicked doctrines embodied in the US government. He was caught after a very long manhunt and several more bombings of innocent Americans. He was praised for his actions by several groups. When finally captured he was Mirandized and brought for trial in a open court giving him all the rights of a US citizen accused of a crime.

So yes an individual can be a lone wolf terrorist. Nothing these two did required any significant amount of money or frankly much skill, just willingness to act. The fact that they had no escape plan speaks volumes to the lack of insightful planning. Before everyone gets all conspiracy international support crazy, just wait and let the government finish its investigation. And while we mourn the loss of 4 lives in Boston due to the actions of these brothers, please also keep in your thoughts the 15 killed and 200 injured in West, Texas due to the actions of an American corporation which seemingly disregarded safety and ignored regulations which should have kept all those first responders and neighbors and workers safe. The bomb that went off in Texas was bigger, killed more and injured more than the one in Boston and it is lost in the news

[graciegirl]

Things may change, but I don't see anything at the moment to make me think it is part of a large scale plan.

We all know that Muslim extremists are taught we are infidels and that we need to die. Us..non Muslims.

I feel that there is more known maybe than what we know, and that is fine with me. I feel that the U.S. is doing everything in it's power to find out all of the details and to protect all of us and the world too.

I want to wish for some simple solution, like ...throw them all out, send them home etc, simply because I am very sad, very angry and frightened too. But I know it isn't that simple.

I think if we are patient, all of the truth will be uncovered. And hopefully justice will be served. We can worry, we can think, we can blame and we can speculate but we don't know.

And we don't need to make it any worse yet. God knows it is BAD ENOUGH and justice is screaming to be served.

[gomoho]

The bomb that went off in Texas was bigger, killed more and injured more than the one in Boston and it is lost in the news[/QUOTE]

That was a terrible tragedy that happened in Texas and those victims should be in our prayers; however, the Texas incident was an accident not an attack which explains why the Boston coverage has overshadowed Texas.

[senior citizen]

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[Patty55]

A question which bothers me is how did they get their hands on "military grade explosives" as reported many times by the media. I haven't seen C-5 for sale at Home Depot or 7-11.

It's been reported they got them at a NH fireworks store. They interviewed an employee who identified them.

[blueash]

I don't believe they were bankrolled by anyone. If that were the case then why did they have to rob a 711?

I believe that the story of the brothers robbing the 7-11 was incorrect. There apparently was a robbery but not by them.

Boston police: Marathon bombings suspect 'in custody' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/boston-area-violence)

Initially, authorities said the brothers started their rampage by robbing a convenience store. By late Friday, the Middlesex District Attorney's office backtracked on the allegation, saying an investigation determined that the robbery at a 7-Eleven was unrelated.

[blueash]

A question which bothers me is how did they get their hands on "military grade explosives" as reported many times by the media. I haven't seen C-5 for sale at Home Depot or 7-11.

I have seen no reports of "military grade explosives" and everything I've seen says this:

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev charged with using ‘weapon of mass destruction’ - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/alleged-bombers-aunt-tamerlan-tsarnaev-was-religious-but-not-radical/2013/04/22/ca8f3214-ab5c-11e2-a198-99893f10d6dd_story.html)

Federal prosecutors announced terrorism charges against the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing on Monday, outlining a chilling plot in which the man and his brother allegedly used low-grade but deadly explosives timed to detonate a block apart.

[blueash]

The bomb that went off in Texas was bigger, killed more and injured more than the one in Boston and it is lost in the news

That was a terrible tragedy that happened in Texas and those victims should be in our prayers; however, the Texas incident was an accident not an attack which explains why the Boston coverage has overshadowed Texas.[/QUOTE]

We see things differently. The bomb in Boston was intentional. The bomb in Texas was not an accident. An accident is when you are safely driving your car and a kid darts out between parked cars and you hit him. It is not an accident when that child is crossing at the cross walk and you fly through a stop sign and hit him. I know you didn't mean to do it but you are going to be charged with a criminal offense. Now, down from my soapbox.

[tucson]

[QUOTE=blueash;665642]I believe that the story of the brothers robbing the 7-11 was incorrect. There apparently was a robbery but not by them.

Boston police: Marathon bombings suspect 'in custody' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/boston-area-violence)

Initially, authorities said the brothers started their rampage by robbing a convenience store. By late Friday, the Middlesex District Attorney's office backtracked on the allegation, saying an investigation determined that the robbery at a 7-Eleven was unrelated.
Read the real facts- Before It's News | Alternative News | UFO | Beyond Science | True News| Prophecy News | People Powered News (http://www.Beforeitsnews.com)

[wendyquat]

Hmmm, on welfare ---- that means WE paid for the bombs that killed our own people!

[Heartnsoul]

that is correct Wendy and we probably will pay for his court trial also. Is it hard for good people to understand "evil"?? Some live in "denial" We have to deal with jihadist muslims as they want to kill us. I just choose NOT to put my head in the sand.

[spk7951]

Story in the Boston Herald today says that in 2012 the state stopped welfare payments because the family was earning income in excess of the amount allowed to be earned and collect welfare. Apparently the wife was working 80 hours a week while the husband/terrorist stayed home. Nice guy!

[graciegirl]

that is correct Wendy and we probably will pay for his court trial also. Is it hard for good people to understand "evil"?? Some live in "denial" We have to deal with jihadist muslims as they want to kill us. I just choose NOT to put my head in the sand.

Could you explain? I haven't read on this thread any post that has not appeared to understood how evil an extremist threat is. And that this was an act of terrorism. And that this was indeed evil. And these boys were doing jihad or whatever they call it.

It seems to me that everyone understands the seriousness of this whole issue and that it could very well happen again tomorrow, for the very same reasons.

I don't sense that anyone who has posted on this thread is in denial.

Are you upset because many people at this point think they may have acted alone? And at this point the explosion in Texas appears to be an industrial accident?

Adding fuel to the fire isn't a good thing at this point. We are all angry and scared as it is.

[gomoho]

That was a terrible tragedy that happened in Texas and those victims should be in our prayers; however, the Texas incident was an accident not an attack which explains why the Boston coverage has overshadowed Texas.

We see things differently. The bomb in Boston was intentional. The bomb in Texas was not an accident. An accident is when you are safely driving your car and a kid darts out between parked cars and you hit him. It is not an accident when that child is crossing at the cross walk and you fly through a stop sign and hit him. I know you didn't mean to do it but you are going to be charged with a criminal offense. Now, down from my soapbox.[/QUOTE]

I will agree to disagree - don't have enough facts about Texas to make that determination - that is was an intentional fault of the owner. Just don't know that yet.

[graciegirl]

We see things differently. The bomb in Boston was intentional. The bomb in Texas was not an accident. An accident is when you are safely driving your car and a kid darts out between parked cars and you hit him. It is not an accident when that child is crossing at the cross walk and you fly through a stop sign and hit him. I know you didn't mean to do it but you are going to be charged with a criminal offense. Now, down from my soapbox.



I haven't heard anything along those lines but I too was highly suspicious when it happened as it was so close to the 20th anniversary of the Branch Davidian awfulness. Then they are saying it was an industrial accident, but STILL under investigation as to cause....

But then, who would retaliate? Anti government extremists? I respect your views, Gomoho. What are you thinking? Intentional fault of the owner? Can't figure out why he would blow up his own business. For insurance?

The plot thickens.

Tell us what you think, girl!

[blueash]

Least news up here in Massachusetts is that Suspects were on welfare/public assistance so we (the taxpayers) funded these acts of terror. Go figure.

That is not a reasonable argument and here is its logical extension. You are angry that they were receiving government assistance and I suspect you don't like much about the "takers" on government assistance. The brothers also took mass transit in Boston in government busses and on government roads. They used government supported cell phones and government supported internet. Are you going to rail against all the benefits used by these terrorists and say that it was the taxpayers who funded the roads they rode upon and the busses they used. Of course not. They qualified for help and they got it until they no longer qualified. I think their mosque also got an exemption from paying property taxes. So that means the taxpayer supported their mosque

[OnTrack]

That is not a reasonable argument and here is its logical extension. You are angry that they were receiving government assistance and I suspect you don't like much about the "takers" on government assistance. The brothers also took mass transit in Boston in government busses and on government roads. They used government supported cell phones and government supported internet. Are you going to rail against all the benefits used by these terrorists and say that it was the taxpayers who funded the roads they rode upon and the busses they used. Of course not. They qualified for help and they got it until they no longer qualified.I'll bet you might get a whole different opinion, if you also pointed out all of the people who will receive more benefits from Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid...than they ever put in.

I can hear it now....... "But, but, but....that's different." :oops:




I think their mosque also got an exemption from paying property taxes. So that means the taxpayer supported their mosque

In that regards, taxpayers support ALL religions.

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[graciegirl]

Dale Carnegie is rolling in his grave.

Extreme statements polarize people more. I am feeling polarized right now.

[OnTrack]

I'll bet Martin Luther King Jr.......is rolling over in his grave also.

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[senior citizen]

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[gomoho]

I haven't heard anything along those lines but I too was highly suspicious when it happened as it was so close to the 20th anniversary of the Branch Davidian awfulness. Then they are saying it was an industrial accident, but STILL under investigation as to cause....

But then, who would retaliate? Anti government extremists? I respect your views, Gomoho. What are you thinking? Intentional fault of the owner? Can't figure out why he would blow up his own business. For insurance?

The plot thickens.

Tell us what you think, girl!

Gracie - somehow those posts got mixed up - my thinking was it was an accident - the other poster said it was negligence. I'm waiting for more facts before I'm willing to point a finger at anyone in the Texas incident.

[AriaGrandparents2013]

Latest being reported here in Massachusetts this morning is that both parents are flying to Boston sometime today but unclear as to which airline and what time.........and....they intend to hold a press conference when they arrive........this should be interesting.

[Heartnsoul]

did anyone see the interview with Jihad MOM, the mother of the Terrorists? Not only was the son receiving welfare but her as too along with her stealing. She said she could care less if her remaining son lives or dies. And then she said she will tell the world "Allah akbar"
exactly what the Ft Hood Terrorists said before killing our soldiers!! We are witnessing the rise of the Radical Muslim Terrorists who want to rule the world. God be with our grandchildren. They will not inherit the same America we grew up in.

[janmcn]

did anyone see the interview with Jihad MOM, the mother of the Terrorists? Not only was the son receiving welfare but her as too along with her stealing. She said she could care less if her remaining son lives or dies. And then she said she will tell the world "Allah akbar"
exactly what the Ft Hood Terrorists said before killing our soldiers!! We are witnessing the rise of the Radical Muslim Terrorists who want to rule the world. God be with our grandchildren. They will not inherit the same America we grew up in.

Missed that interview. Could you post a link or tell what station it was on?

[graciegirl]

Missed that interview. Could you post a link or tell what station it was on?

I saw it day before yesterday on CNN. Several times. She said she hopes her younger son dies..Her point was, I think, that she wants to join both of her sons in the hereafter.

She doesn't engender much empathy, She said her sons were set up by the FBI and they were targeted because they were Muslims. A woman in suffering and denial but even so...not a person who draws sympathy..

She did say that salutation and I did look it up and it was unclear how she meant it, or what she meant by it or what it means exactly.

Do you see how I am biased? I try very hard to see things and understand things without emotion and prejudgment... but I am failing miserably here.

An open mind is hard to keep.

[gomoho]

So there is supposedly an outstanding warrant from her shoplifting charge - will they arrest her when her little pigs touch ground??? And where in the world are the people getting this money to travel and transport a body??? Does Russia have welfare?

[saratogaman]

As a U.S. citizen, he cannot be treated as an enemy combatant.
Incidentally, all 16 people tried in federal court on terrorism charges have been convicted.
So what's the problem?

[Patty55]

So there is supposedly an outstanding warrant from her shoplifting charge - will they arrest her when her little pigs touch ground??? And where in the world are the people getting this money to travel and transport a body??? Does Russia have welfare?

Supposedly she shoplifted $1600 at Lord & Taylor, she doesn't look the L&T type to me.

Maybe they're getting paid for interviews and licensing of photos. Hope we don't end up seeing them on Dr. Phil.

[janmcn]

File this under good news. NBC News is reporting that 21 million dollars has been raised so far by the Boston One Fund for victims of the bombing attack. Ken Feinberg is administering the fund and hopes to have all the money distributed to the victims by July 4th.

Nice going Boston. You have really stepped up to the plate on this one.:bigbow:

[billethkid]

the problem is in the limitations on gaining information about other terrorists without a high paid lawyer hovering around "protecting" his rights. As an enemy combatant there would be no lawyer...no right to remain silent...and any of the other entitlements that come with civil VS military.

If you or a loved one was either killed or maimed by these two cowardly enemy combatants there would no doubt be less concern for their rights as individuals.
When they embarked on their pre meditated mission to kill innocent men, women and children simply because the victims were American or in an American even....they are not entitled to the civility that makes too many concerned about the killers human rights, more comfortable......thats the problem. A very clear cut case of pre meditated murder of innocents.

With no personal investment in the tradgedy or loss of life or limbs it is way too easy to arm chair quarterback the incident.

Now the killer will live much longer and better as a result of all the so called "civil" rights.

He deserves to be interrogated to the fullest. When done with that, since he is already self admitted and documented evidence guilty, a quick execution.

btk

[JB in TV]

From the Associated Press' Max Seddon:

MAKHACHKALA, Russia — The father of the two Boston bombing suspects says he is leaving Russia soon for the United States.
Anzor Tsarnaev told journalists in the southern Russian province of Dagestan on Thursday that he is leaving "today or tomorrow."

The suspects' mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, said she was still thinking it over. She was charged with shoplifting in the U.S. last summer and is concerned that she could be arrested.

Tsarnaeva said she had been assured by lawyers, however, that she would not be.

The Tsarnaev family emigrated to the U.S. a decade ago, but both parents returned to Russia last year.

NBC News' Adrienne Mong tweeted this quote from Anzor Tsarnaev:

"I am going to the US to bury my son. I don't want to blow up anyone. I want to see my younger son."

Read it here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/anzor-tsarnaev-us-bomb-suspect-father-boston_n_3154238.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D303803)

[Heartnsoul]

Abc news?? No thanks

[graciegirl]

???.:oops:

[George1938]

Yeah and now the bigggest thing shut is the "suspects" mouth!! Lawyered up and Mirandized.

Is there anything else we can screw up ??

[buggyone]

Yeah and now the bigggest thing shut is the "suspects" mouth!! Lawyered up and Mirandized.

Is there anything else we can screw up ??

Well, just like you, he is an American citizen. He is guaranteed the same rights as you are under the U.S. Constitution.

[George1938]

I understand your point. My point was the government (?) could have delayed charging him or used another charge to be able to continue interrogating him. We need to start taking advantage of open doors like this if we are to learn lessons that will keep all of us safe in the future or as safe as possible.

How do you feel about the delay in bring the Fort Hood shooter to justice?
Two years, I think. Doesn't the constitution afford us a fair and SPEEDY trial?

[buggyone]

I understand your point. My point was the government (?) could have delayed charging him or used another charge to be able to continue interrogating him. We need to start taking advantage of open doors like this if we are to learn lessons that will keep all of us safe in the future or as safe as possible.

How do you feel about the delay in bring the Fort Hood shooter to justice?
Two years, I think. Doesn't the constitution afford us a fair and SPEEDY trial?

The Fort Hood shooter was shot by MP's at the time of the shooting - although he did kill 13 people first. I understand he was paralyzed from the waist down from the shooting and has been in custody ever since (as he should be). He has been charged by the Uniform Code of Military Justice but has not yet been court-martialed. Being paralyzed and remaining in a military jail may not be the penalty that is justified by the crime, but it is a good start.

I am not positive, but I think the military court-martials are exempted from the provisions of the Constitution for such things as a speedy trial.

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The sole suspect is Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old U.S. Army major serving as a psychiatrist. He was shot and taken into custody by Department of the Army Civilian Police officers.[8] Due to injuries from being wounded, he is paralyzed from the waist down.[9] Hasan was arraigned by a military court on July 20, 2011 and was charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted murder under the Uniform Code of Military Justice; he may face additional charges at court-martial. If he is convicted, he could be given the death penalty

[In awe of TV]

Who is paying the expenses of the father? The flight and hotel in Boston must be far beyond his means-judging from where he lives. Yes, I'm judging. I'm sure glad he said he wasn't coming here to bomb. That's a load off my mind. That in itself should be a reason not to allow him on a flight! Will he need a security presence when he arrives?

And, why should he be able to see his son? Isn't the son a prisoner?

I'm simply amazed.

I'm truly missing something here because I do not understand how this is all evolving.

[billethkid]

AS i HAVE POSTED BEFORE UNDER CIVIL LAW HE IS NOW LAWYERED UP. hE WILL BE CLEANED UP TO APPEAR AS A CLEAN CUT ALL aMERICAN BOY, WHO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS BECAUSE HE WAS BRAIN WASHED (oops on the caps).....anybody wanna bet?

He is a confessed killer against what America stands for....he is not a common criminal entitled to the protection of the cuvil courts. A cold blooded killer who would do so again.....

The next time we will hear about we should have done more to him to learn more is when the next bombing takes place.
These killers against America know they have the apathy of Americans to do what ever it takes to find them and kill/stop them. They count on the permissive pacifism of those who intellectualize the deed. Those who intellectualize have no investment in the loss of life and limb, therefore they can be pompous and rightious....facilitating exactly what the enemy expects to happen....if they get caught.

btk

[George1938]

I understand the legal concerns as it relates to us and the Constitution but we continue to embolden these terrorists with lack of punishment in a speedy manner. I suggest if Timothy McVeigh was a muslim, he would still be alive in some prison with cable tv, healthcare and congigal rights! Afer all, he was an American citizen!

Don't you think the founding fathers might have overlooked the changing landscape of toda's world?

Remember how many attacks on Americans have been pepertrated overseas without a single retaliation. Marines in Lebanon, embassy attacks, Blackhawk in Somalia, ships etc. And what did we do about it? NADA !

[Heartnsoul]

and the latest is they were going to head to NY to blow up MORE people, more bodies, more limbs, etc.... Radical Muslim Jihadists are all over the world and unfortunately all over our country as we keep our borders wide open

[senior citizen]

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[janmcn]

We also heard Mayor Bloomberg of New York City talk about the probable plan of the bomber brothers to travel to N.Y.C.'s Times Square to set off more bombs. We still have relatives in New Jersey who travel into the city for work and pleasure. Not to mention our son who flies into N.Y. on business.

I told my husband I was curious if we had any Islamics in Vermont and he wasn't sure, although we both felt that with all the colleges and the University of Vermont up north, there must be a few. We only just learned that there is a new "resettlement program" up in northern Vermont for foreign born people from Africa.

I found this link only...with regard to a mosque in Vermont:
Just one mosque......(that I could find):
ISVT Statements - * Islamic Society of Vermont (http://www.isvt.org/isvt-statements.html)



Does the Villages in Florida have a mosque?

Or, is there one outside the perimeter?

There are some lovely Muslim people that live in The Villages. Hopefully all the rants on this forum will not scare them and others away and keep others from moving here. You can't blame millions of peaceful Muslims for the actions of a few. I don't think there is a mosque here yet.

My niece and her family also live in NYC, so I am always concerned when anyone talks of bombings in NYC.

[senior citizen]

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[OnTrack]

I suggest if Timothy McVeigh was a muslim, he would still be alive in some prison with cable tv, healthcare and congigal rights! Afer all, he was an American citizen!
Do you mean like Eric Rudolph, who killed people because of his anti-abortion and anti-gay extremism....and is still alive in prison?

Many people are not so quick to judge all anti-abortionists/gays, by his actions....or want to label him an "enemy combatant."

Given that both Rudolph and the Boston bomber are American citizens......why is that?

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[billethkid]

in the days to come perhaps we will find out why the justice department was more concerned about protecting the rights of the killer bomber than allowing the FBI to finisg their job of getting information to prevent more attacks and killing more Americans.

There is definitely a distorted priority that needs to be dealt with.
The sad part is as is demonstrated time and time again....we will go about our business and our daily lives. The reasons for the distorted priority will become old news. The legal sytem will grind on and the killer will enjoy a life undeserved and continual notoriety.
Nothing, again, will change, and sadly there is nothing to stop the killers from striking an easy target....... again.

What will it take to change the archaic laws that protect mass killers of the innocents???

btk

[golf4me]

in the days to come perhaps we will find out why the justice department was more concerned about protecting the rights of the killer bomber than allowing the FBI to finisg their job of getting information to prevent more attacks and killing more Americans.

There is definitely a distorted priority that needs to be dealt with.
The sad part is as is demonstrated time and time again....we will go about our business and our daily lives. The reasons for the distorted priority will become old news. The legal sytem will grind on and the killer will enjoy a life undeserved and continual notoriety.
Nothing, again, will change, and sadly there is nothing to stop the killers from striking an easy target....... again.

What will it take to change the archaic laws that protect mass killers of the innocents???

btk

I am very afraid you are right. And we can't even shout the alarm. It isn't politically correct.

[senior citizen]

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[Golfingnut]

If I had a friend or neighbor that was Muslim, I would ask them face to face what they felt about Radical Islamic Terrorists. If they condemned them as evil, I would be more at ease. If they said they are doing the right thing, or had no replay at all, I would be very concerned. I would use the same approach for Christians but refer to folks like Timothy McVeigh. We must not stereo type anyone into violent groups, but we must not stick our heads in the sand either.

[senior citizen]

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[billethkid]

Saudi official: Kingdom 'warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012 and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011' | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html)

History is beginning to show that for what ever reason the USA has adopted a tolerance regarding suspects. We the people need to emphasize to our leaders and lawmakers at the local, state and federal level that we want to gravitate towards an intolerance when it comes to the security and safety of us all.

The above is not intended to stir a political discussion but a discourse of action on a subject that affects all of our lives.

btk

[graciegirl]

It is said that the widow of the older brother bomber is now not claiming his body.

I wonder what she knows or doesn't know.

I wonder if it will change her mind about the choices she has made.

I wonder how her parents feel.

[janmcn]

NBC News confirms that three more people have been arrested in the Boston marathon investigation. The three were roommates of the younger brother at U Mass Dartmouth and are accused of aiding the alleged bomber by disposing of evidence from his college dorm room. They are not suspected of having a role in the bombings.

The Boston Police also issued a statement saying there is no danger to the public because of these arrests. According to the reports, these three have been under surveillance by the FBI for the last ten days.



3 college roommates of Boston Marathon bombing suspect in custody: sources - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/01/18001437-3-more-taken-into-custody-in-connection-with-boston-marathon-bombing-case-police?lite)