pinellas place sinkhole?

[ricthemic]

did anyone hear of a recent sink hole here?

[Phanatic Luvr]

Yep!

[rubicon]

Does anyon have more detail? I suspect if true then it may have an affect on securing sinkhole coverage in the area

[Trish Miller]

It is very close to Yearling Way in Pinellas

[janmcn]

It is very close to Yearling Way in Pinellas

For those of us not familiar with the area, can you tell us more? Is this a residential area? Are houses being built near-by? Or is this closer to the future commercial area?

[Hopeful2]

Oh my! I know that the houses on Yearling Way are brand new. Does anyone have any additional info about the sinkhole?

[KeepingItReal]

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[Sonny2024]

Here is a Mapquest Capture. It's just south of 466a.

[kittygilchrist]

thanks for the info...

[asianthree]

i see there are six people closing on yearling way in the next month...wonder how it will affect the insurance

[Bonnevie]

how are you able to see that people are closing there?

[golf4me]

how are you able to see that people are closing there?

Wondered too.

[Roaddog53]

Again, before anyone panics as stated, HOW do you know it is a sinkhole? Settling, underground lines, drainage, etc are known in new areas. Did you confirm it with a contractor??

[rubicon]

If it is a sink hole neither the Developr nor the contractors will be much interested in willingly providing information publically. They of course have a legal obligation to notify prospective buyers. Sumter county website publishes plots that were sold. What consititues a sink hole ? I leave that to the experts. However, it is unsettling

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[golf4me]

Just came back from the south side I was picking up stuff. Rode Pinellas to the new SweetBay,Rode Yearling and Apache and saw NO sink holes. There was an old link about a POSSIBLE sink hole e/o Buenna Vista n/o Pinellas but the houses that were near that reported possible sink have all been sold but one. So no need for alarm. All appears to be fine. JMO

Thanks. Another rumor stopped.

Maybe.

[Roaddog53]

Just came back from the south side I was picking up stuff. Rode Pinellas to the new SweetBay,Rode Yearling and Apache and saw NO sink holes. There was an old link about a POSSIBLE sink hole e/o Buenna Vista n/o Pinellas but the houses that were near that reported possible sink have all been sold but one. So no need for alarm. All appears to be fine. JMO

We too were also that way today and did not see anything resembling a sinkhole anywhere on that street. Perhaps it is the drainage ditches between the lots that looks like a dip. Nothing roped off, nothing with stakes, nothing with equipment and IF it was a sinkhole the developer/contractor could not cover it up without having some type of inspection first to determine if it truly was one.

[asianthree]

how are you able to see that people are closing there?

I have great insite....:bowdown: just kidding...because people on this site have posted..."closing on our new home next month on yearling way can't wait" thinking it would be a good indication that THEY are closing or six people just posting that they are buying a new home just to feel the TV experience...LOL

[aaffmom]

Would this not be catastrophic ground collapse?

[golf4me]

Would this not be catastrophic ground collapse?

It would be nothing.

[clyde t]

The SINKHOLE is being repaired, Drilling several holes and pumping grout around two houses at the end of Useppa Oaks at Yearling. We were told that it is between the homes and they are pumping concrete grout under these houses for 2-3 weeks now.

[asianthree]

The SINKHOLE is being repaired, Drilling several holes and pumping grout around two houses at the end of Useppa Oaks at Yearling. We were told that it is between the homes and they are pumping concrete grout under these houses for 2-3 weeks now.:gc:

Thanks for the update

[Phanatic Luvr]

That's why I originally put "Yep". But didn't want to cause mass panic. Hubby is in that area daily and has been watching the activity. And for myself, I would have gone to take pictures but didn't want yet another nail in my tires.
Has anyone seen the jar of collected nails at the Tire Choice? I think we all must run right there to have them removes. :evil6:

[BettyCrocked]

I thought this was just a rumor? One person said they saw nothing and a vicious rumor was stopped in its tracks! :rolleyes:

The SINKHOLE is being repaired, Drilling several holes and pumping grout around two houses at the end of Useppa Oaks at Yearling. We were told that it is between the homes and they are pumping concrete grout under these houses for 2-3 weeks now.:gc:

[OnTrack]

I thought this was just a rumor? One person said they saw nothing and a vicious rumor was stopped in its tracks! :rolleyes:

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[mac6115cd]

That brings up a good question: are sinkholes or excessive settling, common in Florida after new construction?

[Lynn222]

i see there are six people closing on yearling way in the next month...wonder how it will affect the insurance

Where did you find that information? Please PM me if you have time.

[Kaschilz]

Anyone with good info on this please post. We own on Useppa Oaks very near these houses that are being treated but are back in NC trying to sell our house. We did see the house on the corner having the concrete being pumped in last time we were there but now it looks like three houses are involved. Kind of too close for comfort and we have't even been able to move in yet. We will be down in a couple of weeks to check things out but would sure appreciate any good info that anyone finds out in the meantime. Thanks for posting about this so we can keep track of things from afar.

[optv13sp]

The SINKHOLE is being repaired, Drilling several holes and pumping grout around two houses at the end of Useppa Oaks at Yearling. We were told that it is between the homes and they are pumping concrete grout under these houses for 2-3 weeks now.:gc:

Useppa Oaks intersects Yearling at both ends. At which location is the sinkhole? The intersection closest to Buena Vista or at the other end near the pond? Is the sinkhole on homes on Useppa Oaks or Yearling? Thanks.

[mickey100]

I thought this was just a rumor? One person said they saw nothing and a vicious rumor was stopped in its tracks! :rolleyes:

Its probably the same old thing - people are so afraid that something negative about The Villages might actually be true! Some people just insist that everything is perfect, so they just jump at any possibility that the less than perfect occurrence didn't really happen. Most people know The Villages is great, but can admit that it is not perfect.

[janmcn]

Anyone with good info on this please post. We own on Useppa Oaks very near these houses that are being treated but are back in NC trying to sell our house. We did see the house on the corner having the concrete being pumped in last time we were there but now it looks like three houses are involved. Kind of too close for comfort and we have't even been able to move in yet. We will be down in a couple of weeks to check things out but would sure appreciate any good info that anyone finds out in the meantime. Thanks for posting about this so we can keep track of things from afar.

Have you asked your salesperson about the activity that's been going on for the last two to three weeks? That would be a good place to start. Also, were you able to get sinkhole insurance before you closed? You might want to check with your insurance carrier.

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[Roaddog53]

Mia Copa... We went by a few times and saw nothing, in the area that showed anything wrong. perhaps it was because it was "between" homes or behind them that we did not notice. I sincerely hope all is ok. All the the homes are sold or built except three on the east side of Useppa. Is it the spec homes. or someone's home? Sounds catastrophic, not part of the house? Versus condemnation and altered the structure. Insurance companies involved?

[janmcn]

It is on the East end of Useepa where it intersects Yearling. If you look at the online map on TV website you'll see three white pieces of property all together. It was a LAND DEPRESSION not a SINKHOLE. It is being treated and the disclosure will be made to the buyers as per the law.

How big is the "LAND DEPRESSION"? Are there homes on the property? If so, are they 'for sale' or 'sold'?

[justjim]

Humnn.....land depression instead of a sinkhole. Interesting----never heard that term used before and I have lived in Florida for over 10 years----learned something new today!

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Stop by and talk to the guys.

[The Buckeyes]

Has anyone PHYSICALLY walked around those properties and saw a sinkhole? Or are we just commenting?

[graciegirl]

Many times there are drops/sinkholes/cave-ins around water holes. I think that is the reason that "THEY" are careful in making man made "lakes" or deepening existing ones.

Frequently the drain tile will cause ...to me.....unusual settling. There was a thread on this some time ago in St. James. I will see if I can find it.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/new-sinkhole-st-james-edenville-path-55594/

Also, during the summer rainy season here, there will be sinkholes as sure as God made little green apples.

[asianthree]

That's why I originally put "Yep". But didn't want to cause mass panic. Hubby is in that area daily and has been watching the activity. And for myself, I would have gone to take pictures but didn't want yet another nail in my tires.
Has anyone seen the jar of collected nails at the Tire Choice? I think we all must run right there to have them removes. :evil6:

Good choice on not driving thru the land of nails to get some pics

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[gomoho]

If there is no hole what are they filling up??? Or do you mean there is no visible hole?

[graciegirl]

If there is no hole what are they filling up??? Or do you mean there is no visible hole?

When this problem...hole, unstable ground, depression, is discovered than something they call sluree or mud but must be cement is pumped into any underground space that needs to be filled. I know one such event where the homeowner told me he thinks that his ground is more stable now after such an event.

In the large cement pipes that run between water holes, they even send in divers to check out the interiors for breaks. A job I wouldn't want to do. I know this because I know people who live adjacent to these pipes and witnessed these activities.

But...to wannabees, you need to know that sinkholes occur here and there isn't any good way to figure out where they will be.....and lightning strikes have burnt six homes to the ground in the villages in the last seven years.

We also have snakes and alligators and tornadoes. Other than that, I think it is pretty close to perfect.;)

[ajbrown]

Please understand I am no expert, but learning more and more daily from reading this site and others.

The first thing I realized last year is I did not know the technical definition of a sinkhole for insurance. The first thing you have to do is google the difference between a sink hole and catastrophic ground collapse (CGC). Sink hole activity that cannot be categorized as CGC is much more insidious IMO. In Fl we are all covered for CGC, but it is getting more and more expensive to get sinkhole coverage.

I believe it is possible to have sinkhole activity without ground collapse and maybe what is happening w.r.t. this thread. I do not know that, I only know what is posted.

I do not have the answers by any means, but having sinkhole activity being fixed should raise flags for near by neighbors based on what I have read. Would I panic, of course not, but I sure would be digging into the details and become much more of an expert on diagnosing the issue.

I am learning, I am googling, I am confused about the details still...

[Jan Hickerson]

Well, here I am in San Diego, packing all my worldly belongings, excitedly awaiting my move to TV, 9 more days to go!!! I log on and the first thing I see is the post about a sink hole near Yearling Way. I JUST CLOSED on my new home on Yearling Way!

If anyone has any additional information pertaining to location, size, severity, etc., let's have it. Please. I am not going to panic just yet, but I sure hope I have a home to unpack all this stuff in!

Let me know if anyone has any more details. Ignorance is not bliss, at least not for me! LOL

[gomoho]

Jan - contact your sales agent - they should be just as responsive after the sale if they want to keep you as a client.

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[gomoho]

We each have our own level of comfort when it comes to these issues - I believe it is presumptous to tell someone else to relax where their home or safety is of concern to them. No one is twisting anyone else's arm to post on this topic - so maybe you should relax!

[clyde t]

Of course we are concerned about this. I have tried to educate myself about the nature and problems that a nearby sinkhole could present to us in the future. After days of reading and searching, I have no more usable information than I did when I started. I did find some informative information on Lake Co web site.
We also have been in contact with The Villages Sales Office and was told that we will have the full report from the Sinkhole Repair Contractors before we close on the 21st.
From all that I am reading about Sinkholes, I am encouraged that the kind of problems that are created by the ones in this area are not a problem after they are repaired.
AND as for someone telling me to relax! I assume that YOU cannot see this from Your Front door,

[KatieDidNot]

ClydeT

I actually know quite a bit about sinkholes believe it or not, and although most of them are not serious issues, you just never know. So, I understand your concerns.

I try to just stay out of all the sinkhole discussions, because most are filled with fear and inadequate information. And honestly, I have better things to discuss than the "what ifs" and I think it is the responsibility of the owner to educate themselves. Florida has sinkholes, it is a fact and you just never know where they are going to pop up...I might have one pop up this Summer. There are entire communities on the Gulf Coast that have homes with sinkhole repairs.

You did the right thing by talking directly to the sales office, because the are required to disclose. I did this before I bought...I found them very forthcoming and honest brokers. They were very well informed and they had no idea I was already informed about sinkholes. Make sure you are talking to a manager vs. one of the sales people.

Talking to TV is always a better option than discussing this on this board, IMHO, if you are purchasing one of the homes near the sinkhole. Also talk to your insurance agent. If you are at all concerned, after you talk to the proper authorities, I would reconsider the purchase.

And, if anyone bashes me over this post, I would like to respectfully warn you that I might have woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, so please don't.:Screen_of_Death:

Good Luck, I hope you get you answers soon.

Katie

[graciegirl]

I think he meant it kindly.

[clyde t]

I did not intend to offend anyone, I would hope that regardless of where these problems occur that we would all be a little concerned. I hope that this forum will be instrumental in helping us to all relax. We can do this by sharing real facts and less unproven assumptions.

[graciegirl]

ClydeT

I actually know quite a bit about sinkholes believe it or not, and although most of them are not serious issues, you just never know. So, I understand your concerns.

I try to just stay out of all the sinkhole discussions, because most are filled with fear and inadequate information. And honestly, I have better things to discuss than the "what ifs" and I think it is the responsibility of the owner to educate themselves. Florida has sinkholes, it is a fact and you just never know where they are going to pop up...I might have one pop up this Summer. There are entire communities on the Gulf Coast that have homes with sinkhole repairs.

You did the right thing by talking directly to the sales office, because the are required to disclose. I did this before I bought...I found them very forthcoming and honest brokers. They were very well informed and they had no idea I was already informed about sinkholes. Make sure you are talking to a manager vs. one of the sales people.

Talking to TV is always a better option than discussing this on this board, IMHO, if you are purchasing one of the homes near the sinkhole. Also talk to your insurance agent. If you are at all concerned, after you talk to the proper authorities, I would reconsider the purchase.

And, if anyone bashes me over this post, I would like to respectfully warn you that I might have woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, so please don't.:Screen_of_Death:

Good Luck, I hope you get you answers soon.

Katie

No bashes from me Katie. Please accept this smile and a little hug.

[kittygilchrist]

I think he meant it kindly.

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the earth. Gracie, you are wonderful.

[kittygilchrist]

Well, here I am in San Diego, packing all my worldly belongings, excitedly awaiting my move to TV, 9 more days to go!!! I log on and the first thing I see is the post about a sink hole near Yearling Way. I JUST CLOSED on my new home on Yearling Way!

If anyone has any additional information pertaining to location, size, severity, etc., let's have it. Please. I am not going to panic just yet, but I sure hope I have a home to unpack all this stuff in!

Let me know if anyone has any more details. Ignorance is not bliss, at least not for me! LOL

Jan if you would like me to go over and take some pix for you, send your address to tangogainesville@gmail.com.
Kitty

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Of course we are concerned about this. I have tried to educate myself about the nature and problems that a nearby sinkhole could present to us in the future. After days of reading and searching, I have no more usable information than I did when I started. I did find some informative information on Lake Co web site.
We also have been in contact with The Villages Sales Office and was told that we will have the full report from the Sinkhole Repair Contractors before we close on the 21st.
From all that I am reading about Sinkholes, I am encouraged that the kind of problems that are created by the ones in this area are not a problem after they are repaired.
AND as for someone telling me to relax! I assume that YOU cannot see this from Your Front door,

Clyde sent you a PM.

[Roaddog53]

Rode by on my bike this AM. There are injection pipes all around just 1 house on Useepa including one in the driveway in front of the garage. There is NO HOLE. It appears that the sluree is or was being pumped in the ground. Nobody was working at the time I was there so I couldn't get an update. So if anyone is in that area and sees someone working just stop and ask and report back.

Was there a couple of days ago on our way to view some lots. We stopped by and the worker washing the street down of overflow slurry called it a "washout", like a depression. There was NO HOLE. Just a small area (maybe 4 x 15) between the two homes that had a drop of about 6" - 12". We did not see any damage to either home. It was between the two homes and in front of them by the driveway. He said some of that was caused though by the equipment driving on it.

[gomoho]

And this man has all the facts and is to be believed - I don't think so. Would want something in writing from the developer before I closed on either of those homes.

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And this man has all the facts and is to be believed - I don't think so. Would want something in writing from the developer before I closed on either of those homes.

And if you read he will receive just that because it is the LAW

[Bosoxfan]

:agree:We each have our own level of comfort when it comes to these issues - I believe it is presumptous to tell someone else to relax where their home or safety is of concern to them. No one is twisting anyone else's arm to post on this topic - so maybe you should relax!

[OnTrack]

We each have our own level of comfort when it comes to these issues - I believe it is presumptous to tell someone else to relax where their home or safety is of concern to them. No one is twisting anyone else's arm to post on this topic - so maybe you should relax!

Exactly. :thumbup:

While it's usually humorous, in a shake the head and chuckle kind of way, this childish belief that everything is always great here....can also get inane. :oops:

This is one of those times.

My suggestion Jan, is to demand the developer give you (in writing) all of the information about what is happening and what mitigation will take place.

At least that way, you will either be able to sleep better.....or make up your mind if you want to pursue it further.

Hopefully, it's nothing.......and you will have a smooth move. :)
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[mickey100]

Good advice.

[gjbl8114]

No need to panic - there is not much one can do if a sink hole happens in your neighborhood or on your street. This is Florida and not unlike other parts of the country, Florida has a history of be subjected to sink holes just as Kansas, Oklahoma and the Arkansas corridor is subjected to tornadoes. There have been lots of sink hole occurrences in TV's. Just thank goodness it's not yours - that's all you can do. Why get excited about it? There's nothing you can do about it and there is no such thing as a guaranteed safe place.....

[jackiez45]

Any sinkhole activity in the village of Fernandina and Allaire Loop.

[jackiez45]

No need to panic - there is not much one can do if a sink hole happens in your neighborhood or on your street. This is Florida and not unlike other parts of the country, Florida has a history of be subjected to sink holes just as Kansas, Oklahoma and the Arkansas corridor is subjected to tornadoes. There have been lots of sink hole occurrences in TV's. Just thank goodness it's not yours - that's all you can do. Why get excited about it? There's nothing you can do about it and there is no such thing as a guaranteed safe place.....

Yes, but I don't want to be buried alive!!!

[ilovetv]

Yes, but I don't want to be buried alive!!!

Nobody gets to pick which disaster might befall them despite lots of research on risks vs. benefits when choosing a place to live.

These Chicago homeowners probably never gave it a thought that simply having natural gas running to their 50 well-placed luxury homes might one day result in one of them exploding and burning, and damaging 50 other homes a few days ago.

SEE:

No Injuries After House Explosion In Long Grove � CBS Chicago (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/26/no-injuries-after-house-explosion-in-long-grove/)

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Yikes... that is too close to home!

[graciegirl]

According to Sumterpa.com the property on the corner of Yearling and Useppa is not sold or lived in?

[Moderator]

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