View Full Version : Thank you to the couple from Pennecamp that didn't show up
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 08:40 AM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
DonH57
05-26-2013, 08:45 AM
Unfortunately even in TV there are those type of people. Sad but true.
Bogie Shooter
05-26-2013, 08:48 AM
More information than I have need for......................
missypie
05-26-2013, 08:57 AM
Maybe just maybe,
1. They got a phone call and had to leave ASAP...
2. Hubby says at the last minute " ok honey, we'll just buy ya a new one"
3. My heart is hurting, please take me to urgent care....
Lots of reasons...just sayin
Houselover
05-26-2013, 09:22 AM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
Making appointments to see items for sale and not showing up is not limited to people in TV.. I have experienced this same thing while selling items on ebay, craigs list, and local ads. Lack of courtesy to cancel appointment goes with the turf. I view these instances as a lost opportunity for them to buy not as a lost opportunity for you to sell..There are other buyers out there..
Topspinmo
05-26-2013, 10:31 AM
I agree, just cause people call give you time don't mean they are going to show up. I tell them a time I will be here with hour. I don't wait or hold off anything I got planned cause been brunt too many times. Just way things go. Some times it pays off, some times it don't, and some times you wish they never would of showed up?
Uptown Girl
05-26-2013, 10:55 AM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off.
I understand you are upset, so much so that you are contradicting yourself here. That you held up your dinner for two hours (I hope that was before you saw them, rather than after they drove off) was really your own choice, although an unhappy one.
If they did indeed not like the look of your place, oh well. That is something one can have no way of knowing for certain and it really doesn't matter in terms of creating your own happiness, anyway.
Best to move to your next alternative and let your mind clear of this stuff.
We have had frustrations in selling used items in the past as well.
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 11:22 AM
I was not contradicting myself. They said they were coming right over....I waited for 2 hours because I didn't want to be in the middle of dinner and cleaning up. I saw them drive by looking at the house numbers, they slowed down, looked at our house number, turned around in the driveway and drove off. Most people have cell phones now and they could have done the polite thing and called, or could have called when they got home.
You all are missing the point. These people made assumptions about the type of house we live in and what kind of people we are. I don't care about a late dinner or selling the chair. That is besides the point - just part of the story.
I published this complaint because I want this couple to read this and know how totally rude, insulting and prejudice they are, in hopes that they don't do it again to another person.
golf4me
05-26-2013, 11:27 AM
I was not contradicting myself. They said they were coming right over....I waited for 2 hours because I didn't want to be in the middle of dinner and cleaning up. I saw them drive by looking at the house numbers, they slowed down, looked at our house number, turned around in the driveway and drove off. Most people have cell phones now and they could have done the polite thing and called, or could have called when they got home.
You all are missing the point. These people made assumptions about the type of house we live in and what kind of people we are. I don't care about a late dinner or selling the chair. That is besides the point - just part of the story.
I published this complaint because I want this couple to read this and know how totally rude, insulting and prejudice they are, in hopes that they don't do it again to another person.
I would have thought of ten thousand other things before I came to that conclusion. Sudden illness or bathroom emergency or phone call or forgot their wallet or purse. They should have called but many aren't real polite about those things......... but I would NEVER think that they felt superior to my neighborhood and home. NEVER think that. Who in the world would????? I don't know anyone who would.
Gator Fan
05-26-2013, 11:38 AM
I was not contradicting myself. They said they were coming right over....I waited for 2 hours because I didn't want to be in the middle of dinner and cleaning up. I saw them drive by looking at the house numbers, they slowed down, looked at our house number, turned around in the driveway and drove off. Most people have cell phones now and they could have done the polite thing and called, or could have called when they got home.
You all are missing the point. These people made assumptions about the type of house we live in and what kind of people we are. I don't care about a late dinner or selling the chair. That is besides the point - just part of the story.
I published this complaint because I want this couple to read this and know how totally rude, insulting and prejudice they are, in hopes that they don't do it again to another person.
It seems like you're the one making the assumption.
rubicon
05-26-2013, 11:42 AM
I was not contradicting myself. They said they were coming right over....I waited for 2 hours because I didn't want to be in the middle of dinner and cleaning up. I saw them drive by looking at the house numbers, they slowed down, looked at our house number, turned around in the driveway and drove off. Most people have cell phones now and they could have done the polite thing and called, or could have called when they got home.
You all are missing the point. These people made assumptions about the type of house we live in and what kind of people we are. I don't care about a late dinner or selling the chair. That is besides the point - just part of the story.
I published this complaint because I want this couple to read this and know how totally rude, insulting and prejudice they are, in hopes that they don't do it again to another person.
dae: you are correct and I support your right to exercise a complaint. I hope the people who called you are members of TOTV. It appears to have been elitist, and it definitely was rude judgmental and unfair. People who carry this air of superority in my view miss much in life.
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 11:42 AM
I guess I am the prejudice, rude person and thank you all for putting me in my place
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 11:54 AM
dae: you are correct and I support your right to exercise a complaint. I hope the people who called you are members of TOTV. It appears to have been elitist, and it definitely was rude judgmental and unfair. People who carry this air of superority in my view miss much in life.
Thank you. I really think most people in the villages are wonderful, friendly, considerate people....so I guess I am being thin skinned to think that these people were rude and insulting.
golf4me
05-26-2013, 12:03 PM
I guess I am the prejudice, rude person and thank you all for putting me in my place
No certainly not. You were only annoyed. I think they stood you up but didn't think those things you thought they thought.
calgone
05-26-2013, 12:13 PM
My my you need a chill pill. Enjoy life. Don't sweat the small stuff.
KathieI
05-26-2013, 12:20 PM
Dale,,, here's my scenario (if it were my life)
ex-husband "you don't need that piece of furniture
me "yes I do don't tell me what to do
ex- what are you going to do with it??
me - what do you care.
ex - and we can't afford it... why you spending all this money on frivolous things???
me - because I want toooo --- so SHUTUP
ex - don't tell me to shutup,, you shut up!!!!
me - as we pull up into the driveway..... OK, I've had it... Your a PITA,,, take me home NOW!!!!
LOL.... I can understand your annoyance.. Can you imagine how I felt - that's why he's my EX...... LOL.
Jconn62836
05-26-2013, 12:22 PM
How did you know that the couple that turned around in your driveway were the prospective buyers. I have had and have seen a number of cars drive by my place slowly and have turned around in any number of drives. I do live in the old section as this is my choice, because I love it here its not because I couldn't afford any other place.
DougB
05-26-2013, 12:36 PM
Apparently if it were the respectful buyer that turned around in your driveway, they had been aware they were in the historical section long before they reached your home. Why would they assume "trailer trash" after reaching your home? I think you are making a very big assumption.
Chi-Town
05-26-2013, 12:36 PM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
Just think, you could haul your manufactured home to California and have two million dollar homes. Having looked at homes in Del Mar and Rancho Santa Fe gave me a new perspective on California home prices.
57ChevyFI
05-26-2013, 12:38 PM
When they were late and you called them back, what did they say?
jblum315
05-26-2013, 01:23 PM
Yes, my son and his family live in a million dollar home in Ca. that has 2 small bedrooms, one bathroom and a kitchenette.
janmcn
05-26-2013, 01:24 PM
If I had driven all the way from Pennecamp to the historical side, I would have at least wanted to see the chair I thought I wanted to buy...barring any unforseen emergency.
btf2008
05-26-2013, 02:31 PM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
You sure made a lot of assumptions here. Sure, there are some narrow minded people out there but your squabble only proves one point...higher education does not equal "common sense". Sorry for your troubles :cryin2:
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 02:32 PM
When they were late and you called them back, what did they say?
I didn't have their name or phone number. That's why I posted my complaint hoping that they would see how rude they were.
btf2008
05-26-2013, 02:36 PM
BTW..."Trailer Trash" is a term that was probably thought up by some educated person living in a "million dollar" house in California. Big whoop!
dalecrenshaw
05-26-2013, 02:36 PM
How did you know that the couple that turned around in your driveway were the prospective buyers. I have had and have seen a number of cars drive by my place slowly and have turned around in any number of drives. I do live in the old section as this is my choice, because I love it here its not because I couldn't afford any other place.
They were definiately looking at the house numbers on the homes as they drove by and stopped at each house. When they got to ours, they stopped, and turned around.
regardless, they were still rude not to show up and not call.
Bonny
05-26-2013, 02:42 PM
If you gave them directions to your house, they already knew where you lived. I certainly can't imagine they would have driven all the way there and then turned around in your driveway because it was a trailer or manufactured home.
Maybe something happened or they had an emergency that they couldn't make it.
gustavo
05-26-2013, 03:22 PM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
You left one thing out on your resume of accomplishments, mind reader!!!
casita37
05-26-2013, 03:43 PM
They were definiately looking at the house numbers on the homes as they drove by and stopped at each house. When they got to ours, they stopped, and turned around.
regardless, they were still rude not to show up and not call.
Something odd about this...if they looked at all the house numbers of the other manufactured homes, then they obviously weren't put off by the "trailers". If they were, then they would have just turned around as soon as they saw the neighborhood. Why keep looking until they found the correct house?
I agree with others...just not worth stressing about. As for wanting them to see the post and know they were rude, well, assuming there was NOT a legitimate reason, they already know they were rude. Even a good reason doesn't excuse not making an apology call with an explanation. Not everyone thinks like that, though.
Good luck selling the chair. My experience has been furniture is easy to sell around here.
gocubsgo
05-26-2013, 03:58 PM
I feel your pain. We live in Silver Lake and when people ask which Village we live in, as soon as they hear "historic side" they either wrinkle their noses, walk away or say something smart ass like "Oh, the old side!"
Bogie Shooter
05-26-2013, 04:15 PM
I would like to "Thank" the couple from Pennecamp that told me that they would be right over to look at a piece of furniture that we have for sale, that never showed up. I saw them look at the house number on our "Manufacture Home" from their car and they decided that we must be "Trailer Trash", turned their car around in the driveway, and drove off. Did not even call to cancel their appointment. I held up dinner for 2 hours.
Just to set the record straight, we are highly educated people (Princeton Univ, Univ. of Michigan for Masters Degreee, 40 yr. career in higher management at IBM, and we live in a million dollar house in California) and we could hardly be considered "Trailer Trash".
This happens to be our 2nd home that we use for 2 months a year to visit our relatives here. So, these people assumed alot when they stood us up. How would they feel if someone treated them the same way.
Also, this historic side was good enough for the founder of the Villages, Harold Schwartz, who lived on this side of the tracks!
Read the above, slowly. Now do you see why it got the response that it did?
Cantwaittoarrive
05-26-2013, 04:53 PM
More information than I have need for......................
This, plus if they didn't show up or call how do you know what they thought??
gomoho
05-26-2013, 06:08 PM
IMHO the OP is probably right - they pulled up, didn't like the looks of things, and left. I can't imagine why everyone thinks this to be so bizarre. People make judgement calls of each other everyday eventhough we all learned not to judge a book by its cover.
And yes they were rude for not calling, but that is not suprising if they in fact made a snap judgement that they didn't want to buy from the OP probably thinking they weren't worthy of a cancellation call.
Sorry to paint such an ugly picture, but it's a reality in my mind. So you probably think I'm as crazy as the OP?!?!?!?!
Bonny
05-26-2013, 06:16 PM
I feel your pain. We live in Silver Lake and when people ask which Village we live in, as soon as they hear "historic side" they either wrinkle their noses, walk away or say something smart ass like "Oh, the old side!"
I must say that if that was someones feelings, then they wouldn't have driven all the way over. I have lived here 13 years. i also have to say that I have never heard anyone say anything about people who live on the other side. I think most of us are grown up enough that we know everyone spends their money different.
asianthree
05-26-2013, 06:37 PM
i have gotten lost over there more than once just looking for the golf course and turned around in someones drive...so maybe it was not them...don't be upset maybe wife wanted it and husband say where are you going to put it, and they just never came...i have waited for possible renters to show up and never made it, i just cross the off my list...
birdawg
05-26-2013, 06:50 PM
Sad that you would refer to your home as trailer trash, don't ever let someones actions affect the way you think of yourself, I'm sure you worked hard for what you have
asianthree
05-26-2013, 07:09 PM
I feel your pain. We live in Silver Lake and when people ask which Village we live in, as soon as they hear "historic side" they either wrinkle their noses, walk away or say something smart ass like "Oh, the old side!"
i only did that to one couple from silver lake and it was not due to where they live, it was a couple who we were paired with, he thought he was a pro and the wife suggested that i was playing with mens pings and she was not going to play with someone who was not going to be able to hit a ball...he hit, she hit, husband out drove him, and i took my mens three wood to the mens tee out drove him and her, and then we went on our merry way...hope this was not you gocubsgo
BobnBev
05-26-2013, 07:26 PM
Was the chair a POS, sitting out in your yard?
Was it over priced?:22yikes::boom:
applesoffh
05-26-2013, 07:33 PM
I can certainly appreciate that the OP was angry at being stood-up. I can also appreciate the assumption that the folks in the turning car/golf cart in her driveway were leaving because they didn't like what they saw.
All that said, I would like to tell the OP this...venting is fine, but if you want to vent, think 5 times before posting it on TOTV. While you may find some posts sympathetic to you, more likely than not you'll find posters ready to jump down your proverbial throat. Just a caution...
gocubsgo
05-26-2013, 07:55 PM
i only did that to one couple from silver lake and it was not due to where they live, it was a couple who we were paired with, he thought he was a pro and the wife suggested that i was playing with mens pings and she was not going to play with someone who was not going to be able to hit a ball...he hit, she hit, husband out drove him, and i took my mens three wood to the mens tee out drove him and her, and then we went on our merry way...hope this was not you gocubsgo
No. not me!
redwitch
05-26-2013, 08:02 PM
I have no idea whether Dale was right in his assumptions, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was. I've heard the historic side called the "trailer park" side, the "dinosaurs", the "poor side". People's perceptions of manufactured homes is not always pretty and is frequently very wrong.
Whether the couple who turned around in the driveway were the potential purchasers or not, it was very rude of them to not call and apologize for not showing up. Hope they have the grace to do at least send you a PM.
justjim
05-26-2013, 08:03 PM
I must say that if that was someones feelings, then they wouldn't have driven all the way over. I have lived here 13 years. i also have to say that I have never heard anyone say anything about people who live on the other side. I think most of us are grown up enough that we know everyone spends their money different.
Bonny: Very good and reasonable conclusion.
ilovetv
05-26-2013, 08:14 PM
Those might not have been the people who said they were coming to look at the stuff for sale!! It could have been a different couple, looking for a house listed for sale in the newspaper and were looking at house numbers for that reason. Maybe they had to turn around because they didn't find a different house they were looking for!
Besides that, who gives a rip if somebody doesn't like "manufactured" homes? If the owners and neighbors like them, that's all that matters!!
DougB
05-26-2013, 08:31 PM
I hsve no idea if your assumption as any merit, but there are always going to be snobs no matter where you live. We even have a club south of 466 that excludes any Villagers north of 466 from joining.
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