View Full Version : You choose - VHA or POA paper
Warren Kiefer
07-03-2013, 08:39 PM
Both the POA Bulletin and the VHA Villages Voice came today. I took the time to peruse both papers. I concluded that one contained some very valuable and informative articles while the other belongs in the bottom of a bird cage. There is a message here, you choose what that message might be....
Ooper
07-03-2013, 09:06 PM
Interesting. Couldn't read either as they were both completely drenched form the rain.
buggyone
07-03-2013, 09:48 PM
I enjoy reading the information on the golf cart accidents in the POA paper.
Amazing how some of those happen - most from not paying attention to the road or pathway.
CFrance
07-03-2013, 09:53 PM
Interesting. Couldn't read either as they were both completely drenched form the rain.
Ooper, you can read the POA online. Google POA The Villages. I don't know about the VHA. Maybe it's on there too. I like to read both.
rayschic
07-03-2013, 09:59 PM
Ooper, you can read the POA online. Google POA The Villages. I don't know about the VHA. Maybe it's on there too. I like to read both.
Here's a link to the POA bulletin. Always a good read.
http://www.poa4us.org/bulletins_files/bulletin201307.pdf
Ooper
07-03-2013, 10:37 PM
Thx.
zcaveman
07-04-2013, 06:49 AM
Here is the link for the VHA paper:
The Villages Voice (http://www.thevha.net/the-villages-voice?op=1&issue=55)
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rubicon
07-04-2013, 06:59 AM
Well I guess I will be the first to directly answer the OP question. I ignore probably to my detriment the Village Voice because it serves as a marketing tool on ly for the Developer. If you follow the progression of past VHA Presidents they all land cushy jobs compliments of the Developer. So it leaves one to wonder if they serve' "we the people" or their self interests...and yes I could be wrong here but when it comes to views perception count and the Village Voice has yet to do anything to change that
The POA has vastly improved since it changed hands. It is addressing more and more of the pertinent issues; albeit in my view they need to be more proactive on certain issues that have a financial affect on residents
I opine you decide
PaPaLarry
07-04-2013, 07:17 AM
Why don't they let the POA be delivered through the Newspaper, like the Village Voice? Maybe some day down the road they will merge? )I said maybe) hehehe
mulligan
07-04-2013, 07:26 AM
All of this begs the questions : Why choose ?? Why not both ?
graciegirl
07-04-2013, 08:02 AM
All of this begs the questions : Why choose ?? Why not both ?
Read them both.
But sometimes I strongly suspect each has a political slant and majority on the governing board.
I opine, you decide.
mulligan
07-04-2013, 10:27 AM
......Great minds.....
duffysmom
07-04-2013, 01:18 PM
If it weren't for the POA I wouldn't know that my roof may be in jeopardy.
Having a watchdog with a loud bark is a good thing.:pepper2:
spk7951
07-04-2013, 03:01 PM
If it weren't for the POA I wouldn't know that my roof may be in jeopardy.
Having a watchdog with a loud bark is a good thing.:pepper2:
Great point! Maybe the VHA has not heard about the roof shingles problems yet.
Bogie Shooter
07-04-2013, 03:56 PM
Great point! Maybe the VHA has not heard about the roof shingles problems yet.
For what it is worth..........................[/
September 2010
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Blistering Shingles Update
By Staff
VILLAGERS� BLISTERING SHINGLE RELIEF FROM OWENS CORNING
For several months Owens Corning has been aggressively attending to warranty claims in The Villages related to blistering shingles. The blistering phenomenon is believed to be a result of a manufacturing problem in an Owens Corning plant in 2003-5. One group of concerned Villagers affected by the blistering are second owners, who did not have shingle warranties transferred from their homes original owners. The VHA had determined that about one quarter of the homes affected were second-owner homes that were potentially facing shingle repairs of about $6000 or more. In addition to assisting Owens Corning in resolving the blistering problem, the VHA had requested consideration for second (and subsequent) owners without active warranties. Owens Corning replied to the VHA with the following release for Villagers:
As we have previously addressed, some homeowners at The Villages have experienced isolated blistering concerns with Owens Corning� Supreme� or Classic� shingles. Your VHA has been advocating on your behalf and working with Owens Corning Roofing and Asphalt (Owens Corning) to address the concerns of those homeowners. Our collaboration with Owens Corning has resulted in an acceptable resolution. Owens Corning has elected to replace affected materials, in the case of blistering that causes performance issues, for any homeowner at The Villages whose Supreme� or Classic� roof shingles were installed between 2003 and 2006, regardless of level of ownership (first, second or subsequent owner).
Owens Corning advises that blistering was found on only a fraction of The Villages houses inspected to date, and that the blistering found was typically in only small areas of the roof. Owens Corning assures us that not all blistering results in a performance problem with the shingle, but in the unlikely event of blistering that creates a performance problem, the blistering usually presents within the first 5 years after installation. As such, Owens Corning has extended its offer to replace Owens Corning� Supreme� and Classic� 3-tab shingles where blistering was determined to affect the performance of the roof by providing material and labor to replace the defective shingles. This offer will extend through December 31, 2011, giving plenty of time for inspection and replacement.
Homeowners with open claims should receive a letter from Owens Corning in the coming days with more information about this claim resolution. In the meantime, if you have concerns or questions, please call 1-800-ROOFING.
duffysmom
07-04-2013, 04:42 PM
Bogie Shooter the problem I'm having with my roof is not the one you sited.
It is another problem where granulation from the down spouts indicates the roof is failing. We went through the process and were told our roof falls within the problem area and we are waiting for OC to respond which they said they would sometime soon. See the POA July issue.
Bogie Shooter
07-04-2013, 06:18 PM
Bogie Shooter the problem I'm having with my roof is not the one you sited.
It is another problem where granulation from the down spouts indicates the roof is failing. We went through the process and were told our roof falls within the problem area and we are waiting for OC to respond which they said they would sometime soon. See the POA July issue.
Good luck with your problem.
spk7951
07-05-2013, 09:12 AM
For what it is worth..........................[/
September 2010
NOTE: Adobe PDF Reader is required in order to view the complete Village Voice. If you do not have Adobe PDF reader installed, please download it at Adobe (http://www.adobe.com). This is a free download.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Blistering Shingles Update
By Staff
VILLAGERS� BLISTERING SHINGLE RELIEF FROM OWENS CORNING
For several months Owens Corning has been aggressively attending to warranty claims in The Villages related to blistering shingles. The blistering phenomenon is believed to be a result of a manufacturing problem in an Owens Corning plant in 2003-5. One group of concerned Villagers affected by the blistering are second owners, who did not have shingle warranties transferred from their homes original owners. The VHA had determined that about one quarter of the homes affected were second-owner homes that were potentially facing shingle repairs of about $6000 or more. In addition to assisting Owens Corning in resolving the blistering problem, the VHA had requested consideration for second (and subsequent) owners without active warranties. Owens Corning replied to the VHA with the following release for Villagers:
As we have previously addressed, some homeowners at The Villages have experienced isolated blistering concerns with Owens Corning� Supreme� or Classic� shingles. Your VHA has been advocating on your behalf and working with Owens Corning Roofing and Asphalt (Owens Corning) to address the concerns of those homeowners. Our collaboration with Owens Corning has resulted in an acceptable resolution. Owens Corning has elected to replace affected materials, in the case of blistering that causes performance issues, for any homeowner at The Villages whose Supreme� or Classic� roof shingles were installed between 2003 and 2006, regardless of level of ownership (first, second or subsequent owner).
Owens Corning advises that blistering was found on only a fraction of The Villages houses inspected to date, and that the blistering found was typically in only small areas of the roof. Owens Corning assures us that not all blistering results in a performance problem with the shingle, but in the unlikely event of blistering that creates a performance problem, the blistering usually presents within the first 5 years after installation. As such, Owens Corning has extended its offer to replace Owens Corning� Supreme� and Classic� 3-tab shingles where blistering was determined to affect the performance of the roof by providing material and labor to replace the defective shingles. This offer will extend through December 31, 2011, giving plenty of time for inspection and replacement.
Homeowners with open claims should receive a letter from Owens Corning in the coming days with more information about this claim resolution. In the meantime, if you have concerns or questions, please call 1-800-ROOFING.
The story that you are referencing is for shingles installed between 2003 and 2006. The current problem is for shingles installed between 2007 and 2009. Unless I have missed it I do not believe the VHA has mentioned the 2nd issue of defective shingles.
rayschic
07-05-2013, 09:20 AM
The story that you are referencing is for shingles installed between 2003 and 2006. The current problem is for shingles installed between 2007 and 2009. Unless I have missed it I do not believe the VHA has mentioned the 2nd issue of defective shingles.
Here's a link to the VHA article about the granulation issue with the shingles installed between 2007-2009. The issue is also covered in the current POA bulletin.
The Villages Voice (http://www.thevha.net/the-villages-voice?op=3&issue=55&article=1268)
rubicon
07-05-2013, 09:24 AM
Why don't they let the POA be delivered through the Newspaper, like the Village Voice? Maybe some day down the road they will merge? )I said maybe) hehehe
PaPaLarry: The VHA began by the Developer in an attempt to put the POA out of business. It failed of course but while civility remains between the two associations there has always been tension .
Bizdoc
07-05-2013, 10:01 AM
It used to be than most towns (even small ones) had newspapers supporting/advocating each of the major political parties. Their articles and editorials shaped political debate. Unfortunately, few cities can actually support one paper, let alone two and we have lost an important part of political discourse.
I read both VHA and POA newsletters. Each has good (and not-so-good) points about them. Do I believe everything that I read? Nope. But I do like having multiple perspectives.
graciegirl
07-05-2013, 11:04 AM
PaPaLarry: The VHA began by the Developer in an attempt to put the POA out of business. It failed of course but while civility remains between the two associations there has always been tension .
I'll say!
rubicon
07-05-2013, 02:05 PM
given the state of the media today journalistic bias, bogus internet stories, etc indeed it is wise as Bizdoc states concerning that believing everything you read. However, I find the POA's reporting to be factual and when it is only their opinion they make that position clear by acknowledging it is an opinion. So personally I am more comfortable and confident with the POA Newsletter
spk7951
07-05-2013, 02:07 PM
Here's a link to the VHA article about the granulation issue with the shingles installed between 2007-2009. The issue is also covered in the current POA bulletin.
The Villages Voice (http://www.thevha.net/the-villages-voice?op=3&issue=55&article=1268)
I did see it in the latest POA paper and apparently missed it from the VHA. Probably my fault since I am so used to taking much less time to read what the VHA puts out. Thank you for the info.
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