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senior citizen
07-13-2013, 02:51 AM
Today will be the first full day for the jury in the George Zimmerman case.

What will the verdict be?

What will the ultimate sentence be?

Anyone care to wager a guess?

jebartle
07-13-2013, 05:36 AM
Not Guilty

getdul981
07-13-2013, 05:43 AM
Not Guilty

:agree:

kittygilchrist
07-13-2013, 06:06 AM
In my experience, evidence matters less than attorney skills, and atty skills matter less than juror's predispositions. Here's a link to teensy juror bio sketches, but enough info for me to guess not guilty is coming the next 12 hours of deliberation.

Who are the Zimmerman jurors? | HLNtv.com (http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/20/who-are-jurors-george-zimmerman)

Cobh521
07-13-2013, 06:16 AM
Not guilty

Lark7
07-13-2013, 06:24 AM
Guilty of manslaughter.

Nova Filtration
07-13-2013, 06:33 AM
he walks

Taltarzac725
07-13-2013, 07:57 AM
In my experience, evidence matters less than attorney skills, and atty skills matter less than juror's predispositions. Here's a link to teensy juror bio sketches, but enough info for me to guess not guilty is coming the next 12 hours of deliberation.

Who are the Zimmerman jurors? | HLNtv.com (http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/20/who-are-jurors-george-zimmerman)

Sounds like Zimmerman will walk given these thumb prints of facts about the jurors. The defense also presented its case much better than the prosecution despite that stupid joke at the beginning from West.

DaleMN
07-13-2013, 08:07 AM
Guilty in the eyes of...........

manaboutown
07-13-2013, 08:18 AM
Not guilty if the jury analytically finds on the facts and has not been swayed by the emotional rantings of the prosecution.

This fiasco should never have come to trial!

Patty55
07-13-2013, 08:21 AM
Not guilty if they understood the jury instructions. I just hope they don't try to be peace keepers and go for manslaughter.

manaboutown
07-13-2013, 08:22 AM
Not guilty if they understood the jury instructions. I just hope they don't try to be peace keepers and go for manslaughter.

:BigApplause:

collie1228
07-13-2013, 08:54 AM
Hung jury. I'm thinking that at least one of the jurors will be swayed by the (over the top) hysterics of the prosecutors' closing statements, despite the lack of evidence.

Patty55
07-13-2013, 08:58 AM
My gut tells me they had a verdict last night but wanted to sleep on it, pack up and put their ducks in a row.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-13-2013, 09:05 AM
The verdict should be not guilty and the sentence will be having to disrupt his whole life and probably have to move far away, be harassed by those who disagree or have an agenda and live in fear for the rest of his life.
You'd have to be a fool to bet on a jury. I have two letters to say about that O J.

tucson
07-13-2013, 09:50 AM
Today will be the first full day for the jury in the George Zimmerman case.

What will the verdict be?

What will the ultimate sentence be?

Anyone care to wager a guess?

Not guilty

Villager Dude
07-13-2013, 10:09 AM
Not Guilty on all counts if based on Florida law and emotions and sympathy removed.

gomoho
07-13-2013, 10:33 AM
Hung jury. I'm thinking that at least one of the jurors will be swayed by the (over the top) hysterics of the prosecutors' closing statements, despite the lack of evidence.

With the amount of time that has passed I'm thinking you may be right. For the life of me I can't imagine not having "reasonable doubt".

ilovetv
07-13-2013, 10:42 AM
The focus has been derailed away from whether there is "reasonable doubt" and onto whose fault it was that the incident happened, which is not to be the determining factor.

There is plenty of reasonable doubt regardless of which side you favor.

Patty55
07-13-2013, 10:52 AM
My gut tells me they had a verdict last night but wanted to sleep on it, pack up and put their ducks in a row.

Well, looks like I'm wrong, it doesn't take this long to get fapitz'd.

senior citizen
07-13-2013, 03:30 PM
Has anyone else heard that the jurors were NOT told what the sentencing would be if they chose manslaughter or 2nd degree murder?

One sentence is 25 years to life and the other is 15 to 35 years????
I might have that reversed.........

With the jury being out so long..........and the "anchors" saying they saw tears in the eyes of the jurors while the "closer" was giving the final statement............I now wonder. Ten hours now of deliberation.

tucson
07-13-2013, 03:42 PM
There's one juror who's been on 2 or 3 jurys in Orange & Seminole Counties in the past, I'm sure she knows what the sentencing for manslaughter is in Fl. She has probably already told the rest of the jurors of this fact. Plus, there's 2 other jurors have members of their families that are lawyers, so they probably also knew this.

Happinow
07-13-2013, 03:44 PM
If the verdict comes back manslaughter, in which case this is the lessor charge, the jury doesn't know the hefty sentence that goes with it. I think the jurors should know what the sentence could be with each verdict. They may think they will give him a lessor sentence when in fact the punishment is about the same for manslaughter and murder 2. If in fact he is found guilty, I think either sentence is way too much of a punishment. Maybe 3 years in prison with parole afterwords? I think he is not guilty, so he should be able to continue with his life.....such that it will be. I think he has been punished enough.

Maryland Girl
07-13-2013, 03:52 PM
There's one juror who's been on 2 or 3 jurys in Orange & Seminole Counties in the past, I'm sure she knows what the sentencing for manslaughter is in Fl. She has probably already told the rest of the jurors of this fact. Plus, there's 2 other jurors have members of their families that are lawyers, so they probably also knew this.

From your mouth to God's ears.

ilovetv
07-13-2013, 03:52 PM
This seems so basic to me. Isn't a defendant subject to conviction on the CHARGES for which he is being tried? He was not charged with "Manslaughter"!

How can the judge, who is supposed to be a "referee", insert a "charge" leading to conviction of manslaughter after hearing the strengths and weaknesses of both sides made for/against the actual charges???

This seems like a Plea Bargain deal served from the bench!!

Patty55
07-13-2013, 03:59 PM
Breaking down the charges and sentences Zimmerman is facing | www.wftv.com (http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/breaking-down-charges-and-sentences-zimmerman-faci/nYpC6/)

Bill Schaeffer from wftv9 said yesterday that the jury would not be aware of the sentences.

tucson
07-13-2013, 04:02 PM
From your mouth to God's ears.

AMEN!!:pray:

gocubsgo
07-13-2013, 04:49 PM
Hoping for Not Guilty! Kind of worried that we are in the final hour of Day 2 and no decision

kittygilchrist
07-13-2013, 04:52 PM
From your mouth to God's ears.

:icon_twisted: curses, foiled again!

janmcn
07-13-2013, 05:00 PM
Court is back is session, and the jury has a question about manslaughter. They want further clarification on manslaughter. Stay tuned.

gomoho
07-13-2013, 05:10 PM
Doesn't look good for George Zimmerman - OJ and Casey Anthony get off, but GZ gets convicted??? What is wrong with this picture.

kittygilchrist
07-13-2013, 05:20 PM
Doesn't look good for George Zimmerman - OJ and Casey Anthony get off, but GZ gets convicted??? What is wrong with this picture.

People.

janmcn
07-13-2013, 05:23 PM
Court is in a 30 minute recess while lawyers decide, based on case law, how to answer the jury's question on clarification

on instructions for manslaughter charge. Manslaughter carries a 30 year maximum penalty, with ten years minimum.

The murder two charge could be off the table.

Patty55
07-13-2013, 05:30 PM
Court is in a 30 minute recess while lawyers decide, based on case law, how to answer the jury's question on clarification on instructions of manslaughter charge. Manslaughter carries a 30 year maximum penalty, with ten years minimum.

No, with the mandatory enhancements it is 25 year minimum.

tucson
07-13-2013, 05:39 PM
There could be a hung jury...!!

tucson
07-13-2013, 05:41 PM
Doesn't look good for George Zimmerman - OJ and Casey Anthony get off, but GZ gets convicted??? What is wrong with this picture.

It's not over yet...

janmcn
07-13-2013, 06:00 PM
After much discussion and checking of case law, the judge is reading the statement for the jury. The statement reads the "state and defense want more details about what the jury is asking". Court is in recess again.

Jurors must ask a specific question before it can be answered.

The jurors' dinner has just arrived, and the attorneys have been given a one hour dinner break. Apparently, everyone is prepared to work late tonight.

manaboutown
07-13-2013, 09:03 PM
Not guilty! Their is justice in this country!!!

kittygilchrist
07-13-2013, 09:04 PM
hallelujah. first time I ever saw justice done.

manaboutown
07-13-2013, 09:05 PM
Not guilty!!!!!