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chachacha
07-17-2013, 12:49 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
DougB
07-17-2013, 01:32 PM
I've never in my life bought a Stevie Wonder recording or a Rolling Stone (well except the one with Ann and Nancy Wilson on the cover) so I say no big deal.
senior citizen
07-17-2013, 01:38 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
Excellent post.
All of those with ties to Boston would echo exactly what you say above.
Plus they printed such a flattering photo, making him look like some holy man, which he was far from..........definitely not a peace loving guy....ruined so many lives........for no good reason.
I predict he will spend the rest of his life in the Super Max Prison in Florence Colorado where he can hang his one "pin up" portrait on his itsy bitsy cell wall, if they allow that.
DougB
07-17-2013, 01:40 PM
:mademyday:Excellent post.
All of those with ties to Boston would echo exactly what you say above.
Plus they printed such a flattering photo, making him look like some holy man, which he was far from..........definitely not a peace loving guy....ruined so many lives........for no good reason.
Holy man, I think not. More of a Jim Morrison look! Well ok, holy man will fit.
senior citizen
07-17-2013, 01:44 PM
:mademyday:
Holy man, I think not. More of a Jim Morrison look! Well ok, holy man will fit.
His face looked so placid and peaceable........deceivingly so.
Again, I predict he will spend the rest of his life in the Super Max Prison in Florence Colorado............where he can hang that portrait in his tiny cell.
His face looked so placid and peaceable........deceivingly so.
Again, I predict he will spend the rest of his life in the Super Max Prison in Florence Colorado............where he can hang that portrait in his tiny cell.
I think he will last less than a year in prison. Someone will take him out.
ewstanley
07-17-2013, 06:12 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
I agree!
janmcn
07-17-2013, 07:51 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
And now Bruce Springsteen has jumped on the bandwagon. He probably won't be invited to perform in The Villages.
Bruce Springsteen Dedicates "American Skin (41 Shots)" To The U.S. "For Justice For Trayvon Martin" | ThinkProgress (http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2013/07/17/2315381/bruce-springsteen-dedicates-american-skin-41-shots-to-the-us-for-justice-for-trayvon-martin/)
rjn5656
07-17-2013, 07:53 PM
who cares if stevie wonder never performs in florida.
who cares if stevie wonder never performs in florida.
The way I feel, even if these entertainers came to Florida, I'm not going to their shows. Entertainers should stay out of politics. It limits their audiences and a lot of times you can never enjoy them again. What a shame.
coralway
07-17-2013, 08:14 PM
Some folks call it freedom of the press. Yes, it is allowed.
If you don't like Rolling Stone ............ DON'T READ IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way I feel, even if these entertainers came to Florida, I'm not going to their shows. Entertainers should stay out of politics. It limits their audiences and a lot of times you can never enjoy them again. What a shame.
How well I agree! Shame that no one told that to Mr. Reagan.
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
That Stevie Wonder...such a radical!
l2ridehd
07-18-2013, 05:03 AM
If we all voted with our spending, this might change the way they think. I cut up my Capital One card because of their celebrity advertiser. I will never buy a Stevie Wonder ticket even though I think he is a great entertainer. I ever did buy rolling stone so they lose nothing. I have in the past gone to see Bruce Springston, but will pass going forward.
So Chachacha, I agree:BigApplause:
al & jane
07-18-2013, 05:28 AM
I can already see naive and impressionable young people wearing t shirts with that picture on it thinking he is a "cool" guy, much like they do Che Guevara, another mass murderer.
rubicon
07-18-2013, 05:48 AM
Well my first reaction to Stevie wonder's comments was that he put himself in an untenable position. If he is going to boycott Florida until the Standing Your Ground law is reversed then he has some other 30 states that contain the same or similar laws that he might also want to boycott.
As to the entertainment industry as a whole it has been my view for years to just turn these people off. I mean what self thinking individual would take seriously the political views of Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg or Bill Maher.
I am also tired of the Hollywood political propaganda being spread via movies television shows etc. I don't want a message I want to be entertained. Even in that they are failing because they descend lower and lower into the cesspool So my viewing continues to be seriously curtailed
graciegirl
07-18-2013, 06:40 AM
Well my first reaction to Stevie wonder's comments was that he put himself in an untenable position. If he is going to boycott Florida until the Standing Your Ground law is reversed then he has some other 30 states that contain the same or similar laws that he might also want to boycott.
As to the entertainment industry as a whole it has been my view for years to just turn these people off. I mean what self thinking individual would take seriously the political views of Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg or Bill Maher.
I am also tired of the Hollywood political propaganda being spread via movies television shows etc. I don't want a message I want to be entertained. Even in that they are failing because they descend lower and lower into the cesspool So my viewing continues to be seriously curtailed
Well said.
And like Chris, neither would lose any bucks from me so it doesn't matter.
DougB
07-18-2013, 09:39 AM
Well my first reaction to Stevie wonder's comments was that he put himself in an untenable position. If he is going to boycott Florida until the Standing Your Ground law is reversed then he has some other 30 states that contain the same or similar laws that he might also want to boycott.
As to the entertainment industry as a whole it has been my view for years to just turn these people off. I mean what self thinking individual would take seriously the political views of Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg or Bill Maher.
I am also tired of the Hollywood political propaganda being spread via movies television shows etc. I don't want a message I want to be entertained. Even in that they are failing because they descend lower and lower into the cesspool So my viewing continues to be seriously curtailed
He said he will not perform in any state that has Stand Your Ground law, not just Florida.
cbg150
07-18-2013, 12:22 PM
He said he will not perform in any state that has Stand Your Ground law, not just Florida.
I admire his sacrifice and his conviction. I am more likely to support Stevie Wonder now more than ever! As for Bruce Springsteen, singer songwriters have long used their craft to move people to deeper understanding. We are a better society because of our folk singers!
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Patty55
07-18-2013, 01:11 PM
I'm waiting to see where the Kardashian's stand on this.
TexaninVA
07-18-2013, 01:54 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
I am sooo tired of it as well. What's strange is how some advant garde elements of our society just seem to hate or despise it. I've never understood that but attribute it to some level of insecurity or guilt?. The entertainers make big bucks and live a wealthy life style, then go radical chic and trash the society that makes that possible.
MikeV
07-18-2013, 04:28 PM
Couldn't care less if they ever perform in Florida or anywhere else for that matter.
Jim&Fran
07-18-2013, 04:38 PM
is anyone else tired of some in the entertainment industry using their fans to propagate their radical views? seeing a "glam" shot of the boston bomber on the cover of Rolling Stone was a disgrace. And as for Stevie Wonder, if he wants to boycott Florida, i say farewell and God speed. i hope no floridian buys another of his songs! people who have success paid for by people of all ideologies should keep their radical views to themselves.
Stevie will never see me by another CD.
I Wonder what he'll say bout that?
"DON'T YOU WORRY 'BOUT A THING"
CraigC
07-18-2013, 04:43 PM
I'm waiting to see where the Kardashian's stand on this.
Me too, Patty! Hope they don't they don't have something negative to say about Florida! :cry:
ilovetv
07-20-2013, 01:37 PM
It's quite ignorant to disrespect a jury decision.
Here's a good example:
In Defense of the Jury System; and My Twitter Talk With Richard Dreyfuss | Greta Van Susteren (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greta-van-susteren/in-defense-of-the-jury-sy_b_3628064.html)
janmcn
07-20-2013, 01:59 PM
It's quite ignorant to disrespect a jury decision.
Here's a good example:
In Defense of the Jury System; and My Twitter Talk With Richard Dreyfuss | Greta Van Susteren (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greta-van-susteren/in-defense-of-the-jury-sy_b_3628064.html)
Stevie Wonder's boycott of Florida has nothing to do with a jury decision. If you read correctly, you would find that he is boycotting all states that have a "stand your ground" law.
The Rolling Stone Magazine cover has nothing whatsoever to do with a jury decision.
rubicon
07-20-2013, 02:03 PM
I'm waiting to see where the Kardashian's stand on this.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Whoppi Goldberg Sean Penn Georg Clooney and Charlie Sheen too
DaleMN
07-20-2013, 03:44 PM
I'm waiting to see about Norman Lee and Rocky & the Rollers. :doh:
mitchbr47
07-20-2013, 03:52 PM
Yeah, he's blind!
janmcn
07-20-2013, 04:05 PM
Boycotts have worked in the past. The one that comes to mind in the recent past was a boycott against Arizona because of it's "papers please" law.
First conventions are canceled, then people change their vacation destinations, then companies change their relocation plans, and on and on. When states get hit in the pocketbook, they might rethink their laws.
These entertainers are using the only platform they have to draw attention to a cause they consider important.
Flyinglady
07-21-2013, 12:43 AM
I'm waiting to see where the Kardashian's stand on this.
Who?
mgjim
07-21-2013, 03:26 AM
I see these as two separate issues. Rolling Stone isn't doing anything that hasn't been done before in the print media. Al Capone, Adolf Hitler, and the Ayatollah Khomeini have all been on the cover of Time Magazine. Josef Stalin was the Time Man of the Year twice. So it isn't like murderers and other criminals haven't been on the cover of magazines before. If I'm not mistaken, Usama Bin Laden was also on the cover of plenty of print publications. At least Rolling Stone includes the words, "bomber" and "monster" when describing the Boston bomber.
Stevie Wonder, on the other hand is making a business decision. It will be his loss by never working in Florida or any other stand-your-ground state. I'd be more impressed if he would refuse to work in Chicago until the murders stop there. I wasn't even aware that he still has an audience.
One of the hard things about being an American is that we have to allow free speech even when that speech is offensive to us. It is the only way to protect our own right of free speech.
mickey100
07-22-2013, 06:31 AM
Boycotts have worked in the past. The one that comes to mind in the recent past was a boycott against Arizona because of it's "papers please" law.
First conventions are canceled, then people change their vacation destinations, then companies change their relocation plans, and on and on. When states get hit in the pocketbook, they might rethink their laws.
These entertainers are using the only platform they have to draw attention to a cause they consider important.
Well said. I suspect many that don't like entertainers protesting against Stand Your Ground, had no trouble with Ronald Reagan running for President, or Charleton Heston being president of NRA, Gary Sinese campaigning for John McCain, etc.
We had Pete Seeger protesting in favor of international disarmament and environmental causes; Joan Baez used her celebrity to help the civil rights movement; Phil Ochs sang against the Vietnam war; Woody Guthrie's songs about the working man and the Dust Bowl are part of our American heritage.
In 1985, Stevie Wonder dedicated an Academy Award to then-imprisoned icon Nelson Mandela, who was jailed during the country's apartheid regime. Rich many times over, if Stevie chooses not to play in states that have laws he doesn't agree with, I imagine he can afford it. And if conservative Villagers don't buy or listen to his music, he could care less. He is being true to his beliefs, and I respect him for that.
graciegirl
07-22-2013, 06:36 AM
http://lh4.ggpht.com/-GNMi7ZDgeJY/SH-q0LfwHfI/AAAAAAAAAFE/WYlrX7IXOM0/LA0100.jpg
cbg150
07-22-2013, 07:33 AM
In 1985, Stevie Wonder dedicated an Academy Award to then-imprisoned icon Nelson Mandela, who was jailed during the country's apartheid regime. Rich many times over, if Stevie chooses not to play in states that have laws he doesn't agree with, I imagine he can afford it. And if conservative Villagers don't buy or listen to his music, he could care less. He is being true to his beliefs, and I respect him for that.
Good point! I would so much rather have an entertainer who who stands up for principles than one of the usual ego maniacs who stand only for themselves!
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mickey100
07-22-2013, 09:59 AM
I know, some of these entertainers seem only concerned with superficial things, their appearance, clothes, you name it. I find it refreshing to find entertainers like Wonder, Bono is another one, who deeply care about social issues and are willing to devote their time and resources to making the world a better place.
ilovetv
07-22-2013, 11:15 AM
If these entertainers are so intent on making the world a better place, Florida is a great place to start teaching their gullible fans that there are two sides of the story, especially when protesting "double standards".
Personally I think Stevie Wonder is wasting a huge opportunity to instruct young people in their own front yard....
"NBC2 Investigates: Gangs in Southwest Florida
Posted: Apr 25, 2013 3:36 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 25, 2013 6:30 PM EDT
By Dave Elias, NBC2 Investigator
FORT MYERS -
The City of Fort Myers has been plagued with violence and murder. NBC2 Investigator Dave Elias dug deeper and found that drugs, crime and gangs are the common elements between those killings.
Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott says the three go hand-in-hand and all appear to be playing a big role in the city's crime problem.
"They're punks. They're criminals. And in most cases – cowards," said Sheriff Scott.
He also explained that gang members live by a much different set of rules.
"We're at a more violent time right now than at any time I recall," said Sheriff Scott. "You're talking about an area that - per capita - is on par with Detroit Michigan, in terms of homicides."
There were 25 murders in Fort Myers alone last year. And Sheriff Scott says all of the killings have those three things in common – drugs, crime and gangs.
"In most every case this is criminal killing criminal. This is bad guy on bad guy," he said.
Sheriff Scott says the killings are also drug related and happening in the Dunbar area - a section of the city unfortunately known for violence and gangs.
Abel Cuellar is a former gang leader in Lee County.
"I was known as 'the Octopus.' Don't mess with the Octopus; or if you need something, go to the Octopus," he said.
He says he knows many people killed by gang violence.
"Believe it or not, all of my friends right now are dead or in prison," Cuellar told NBC2. "It starts out simple. We click together, let's go steal cupcakes from the store at the age of nine; but it just gets more and more serious."
The Florida Attorney General reports nearly 50,000 gang members statewide.
It's estimated that about 1,400 live in Collier County. And Lee County is estimated to have about the same.
"We have members of all your bigger gangs - Latin Kings, Surf 13, Bloods and Crips. We have members of them here. They're loosely organized," said Commander Matt LeClair, with the Lee County Sheriff's Office Gang Unit."
NBC2 Investigates: Gangs in Southwest Florida - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida (http://www.nbc-2.com/story/22079660/nbc2-investigates-southwest-florida-gangs#.Ue1Y_L_jqBI)
BarryRX
07-22-2013, 11:39 AM
Well said. I suspect many that don't like entertainers protesting against Stand Your Ground, had no trouble with Ronald Reagan running for President, or Charleton Heston being president of NRA, Gary Sinese campaigning for John McCain, etc.
We had Pete Seeger protesting in favor of international disarmament and environmental causes; Joan Baez used her celebrity to help the civil rights movement; Phil Ochs sang against the Vietnam war; Woody Guthrie's songs about the working man and the Dust Bowl are part of our American heritage.
In 1985, Stevie Wonder dedicated an Academy Award to then-imprisoned icon Nelson Mandela, who was jailed during the country's apartheid regime. Rich many times over, if Stevie chooses not to play in states that have laws he doesn't agree with, I imagine he can afford it. And if conservative Villagers don't buy or listen to his music, he could care less. He is being true to his beliefs, and I respect him for that.
Well said...thank you!
DaleMN
07-22-2013, 12:05 PM
Sure......some other prisoner will "stand his ground" :doh:
capecodbob
07-22-2013, 12:38 PM
Well my first reaction to Stevie wonder's comments was that he put himself in an untenable position. If he is going to boycott Florida until the Standing Your Ground law is reversed then he has some other 30 states that contain the same or similar laws that he might also want to boycott.
As to the entertainment industry as a whole it has been my view for years to just turn these people off. I mean what self thinking individual would take seriously the political views of Sean Penn, Whoopi Goldberg or Bill Maher.
I am also tired of the Hollywood political propaganda being spread via movies television shows etc. I don't want a message I want to be entertained. Even in that they are failing because they descend lower and lower into the cesspool So my viewing continues to be seriously curtailed
Excellent points!
BB
mickey100
07-22-2013, 02:37 PM
I think Bill Maher is brilliant and his wit unparalleled. He can take everyday social issues and put such a funny, common sense spin on things, it is just hilarious.
janmcn
07-22-2013, 04:16 PM
If these entertainers are so intent on making the world a better place, Florida is a great place to start teaching their gullible fans that there are two sides of the story, especially when protesting "double standards".
Personally I think Stevie Wonder is wasting a huge opportunity to instruct young people in their own front yard....
"NBC2 Investigates: Gangs in Southwest Florida
Posted: Apr 25, 2013 3:36 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 25, 2013 6:30 PM EDT
By Dave Elias, NBC2 Investigator
FORT MYERS -
The City of Fort Myers has been plagued with violence and murder. NBC2 Investigator Dave Elias dug deeper and found that drugs, crime and gangs are the common elements between those killings.
Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott says the three go hand-in-hand and all appear to be playing a big role in the city's crime problem.
"They're punks. They're criminals. And in most cases – cowards," said Sheriff Scott.
He also explained that gang members live by a much different set of rules.
"We're at a more violent time right now than at any time I recall," said Sheriff Scott. "You're talking about an area that - per capita - is on par with Detroit Michigan, in terms of homicides."
There were 25 murders in Fort Myers alone last year. And Sheriff Scott says all of the killings have those three things in common – drugs, crime and gangs.
"In most every case this is criminal killing criminal. This is bad guy on bad guy," he said.
Sheriff Scott says the killings are also drug related and happening in the Dunbar area - a section of the city unfortunately known for violence and gangs.
Abel Cuellar is a former gang leader in Lee County.
"I was known as 'the Octopus.' Don't mess with the Octopus; or if you need something, go to the Octopus," he said.
He says he knows many people killed by gang violence.
"Believe it or not, all of my friends right now are dead or in prison," Cuellar told NBC2. "It starts out simple. We click together, let's go steal cupcakes from the store at the age of nine; but it just gets more and more serious."
The Florida Attorney General reports nearly 50,000 gang members statewide.
It's estimated that about 1,400 live in Collier County. And Lee County is estimated to have about the same.
"We have members of all your bigger gangs - Latin Kings, Surf 13, Bloods and Crips. We have members of them here. They're loosely organized," said Commander Matt LeClair, with the Lee County Sheriff's Office Gang Unit."
NBC2 Investigates: Gangs in Southwest Florida - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida (http://www.nbc-2.com/story/22079660/nbc2-investigates-southwest-florida-gangs#.Ue1Y_L_jqBI)
How many people decide not to move to Florida when they read these headlines? Especially when they find out that a lot of these gang members get away with murder by claiming they were "standing their ground".
To read more about a study done by the Tampa Bay Times, go to TampaBayTimes.com/stand/your/ground
mickey100
07-22-2013, 07:12 PM
... Once celebrities start spouting their political beliefs, I add them to my "no buy" list....:
And once businesses start spouting their political beliefs, i add them to my "no buy" list as well. :sigh:
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